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[00:00:08] <Tom_itx> do you recall where it is in the bios?
[00:00:55] <Valen> HT, dunno
[00:01:01] <Tom_itx> what is S.M.A.R.T. ?
[00:01:03] <Valen> advanced usually
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[00:01:11] <Valen> hdd monitoring thing, its good turn it on
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[00:02:10] <Tom_itx> it was a 'set it and forget it' thing for me :D
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[00:07:43] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology" selftest an self-health-check oft HDDs
[00:08:01] <Loetmichel> ... so the disk can tell you BEFORE it goes south
[00:08:03] <Valen> i really should have listened to it
[00:08:13] <Valen> lost 1TB of TV due to hdd blowing up
[00:08:18] <Valen> smart tried to warn me
[00:08:33] <Loetmichel> Valen: you ignored it?
[00:08:36] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[00:08:39] <Valen> yeah
[00:08:48] <Valen> eh, was only TV
[00:08:53] <Loetmichel> <- not sorry for you ;-)
[00:09:11] <Valen> still a little crappy, missed a bunch of voyager, with 7 of 9 in it
[00:09:21] <Loetmichel> hmmm
[00:09:21] <Valen> :-<
[00:10:06] <Loetmichel> i am more fan of b'elanna ;-)
[00:10:23] <Valen> I'd watch both of them
[00:10:25] <Valen> together
[00:10:27] <Loetmichel> i like my women with a bit of temper ;-)
[00:10:43] <Valen> b'elanna has to have the klingon face though
[00:10:51] <Valen> she looked so weird in that ep without it
[00:12:14] <Loetmichel> hrhr
[00:12:51] <Loetmichel> btw: anyone knows if its possibe to trick a sky+ receiver into decrypting its harddisk?
[00:13:15] <Loetmichel> would like to see the HD recordings on the Computer in my workspace ;-)
[00:14:09] <Loetmichel> (hdd filled up to 90%, would pity it if i had to delete some series)
[00:15:20] <Valen> nfi
[00:15:23] <Valen> I use mythtv
[00:15:40] <Valen> (i had 4x 1tb drives in it, lost 1 of them)
[00:17:00] <Loetmichel> Valen: sky+ is encryted with a GOOD key
[00:17:23] <Loetmichel> no software possible, not in HD
[00:17:38] <Valen> sucky
[00:17:45] <Valen> I only watch free to air stuff
[00:17:50] <Valen> its pretty good here
[00:18:11] <Loetmichel> we HAVE the keycard. wife is paying the eur30/month...
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[00:18:32] <Loetmichel> but the reciver is the only thing that can playback any recordings.
[00:18:41] <Loetmichel> and the harddist kis fully encrypted
[00:19:21] <Valen> I have heard of things that you can plug the card into to decrypt them if you use the computer as the RX
[00:19:35] <ReadError> this vacuum is the best thing i have ever done
[00:19:36] <Loetmichel> and matched to the receiver, so not eveben possible to decrypt on another recieiver
[00:19:49] <Valen> basically its a RX for the PC, you put the paid for card into it and bobs your auntie
[00:19:53] <ReadError> no more standing around with a brush in one hand and a vacuum in the other
[00:19:58] <Valen> why bother having cards
[00:20:39] <Loetmichel> Valen: because its the legal way to look american series in germany ;-)
[00:21:08] <Valen> i meant why bother making a rx and a card that are so bonded to each other
[00:21:15] <Valen> just make the rx with the card built in
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[00:21:56] <Loetmichel> because sky has more than one rx (with HDD, without, for SD, for HD, more functions, and so on
[00:22:07] <Loetmichel> and the card operates them all.
[00:22:21] <Valen> what I'm saying is why bother having a seperate card
[00:22:27] <Loetmichel> the encryption on the HDD is a RX thing, not a card thing
[00:22:30] <Valen> just build all that stuff onto the PCB
[00:22:49] <Loetmichel> the RX writes an encrypted format, to wich it has the key somewhere in its flas
[00:22:51] <Loetmichel> h
[00:23:18] <Valen> wow they really are wankers aren't they
[00:23:23] <Valen> beh just torrent it
[00:23:24] <Loetmichel> Valen: so you cvan change the rx witout changing the card
[00:23:30] <Valen> its easier than trying to be legal
[00:23:44] <Loetmichel> that may be so
[00:24:20] <Loetmichel> but: i have the notorious habot to get caught walking a red light. not to mentoin mir servere mishaps...
[00:24:26] <Loetmichel> habit
[00:24:33] <ReadError> get a seedbox
[00:24:36] <Loetmichel> so i better stay legal. ;-)
[00:24:41] <ReadError> you can DL at like 150mbit
[00:24:45] <ReadError> then rsync stuff over
[00:25:30] <Valen> heh nice
[00:25:41] <ReadError> yea i use whatbox.ca
[00:25:54] <ReadError> for linux isos, and other legal stuff of course
[00:26:06] <Loetmichel> ... right
[00:26:06] <Valen> of course
[00:26:08] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[00:27:01] <Loetmichel> as i only have a 16Mbit dsl line here i doubt the DL @ 150Mbt, but ok ;-)
[00:27:12] <ReadError> well, i have 50 here
[00:27:19] <Valen> i think he is saying the 150mbit is to the box?
[00:27:23] <ReadError> but my upload is only 5mbit
[00:27:31] <Valen> hah
[00:27:34] <Valen> <1 here
[00:27:36] <Valen> upload
[00:27:46] <Valen> on dsl I had 6 down
[00:28:10] <Loetmichel> <- 1Mbit up
[00:28:30] <ReadError> i got a fly cutter
[00:28:34] <ReadError> kinda scared to use it though
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[00:28:42] <Loetmichel> coward
[00:28:45] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[00:29:06] <Valen> lol
[00:29:24] * Loetmichel used this @ 24krpm-> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5468
[00:29:32] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5471
[00:29:39] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5474
[00:30:30] <Loetmichel> selfmade disc cutter out of a screw and an old 80mm Sawblade
[00:30:53] <Loetmichel> ... with a 6mm shaft
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[00:31:15] <Loetmichel> ... *boy* was i nervous at first run ;-)
[00:31:44] <ReadError> im worried about it flingin the bit out
[00:32:26] <Loetmichel> so tighten it right... and put a 4mm PC window in front (just to be safe) ;-)
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[00:33:34] <Loetmichel> a flycutter shouldnt run fast or you have your machien wandering around, so not much energy in the bit IF it goes flying ;-)
[00:33:48] <Valen> lol thats scary Loetmichel
[00:34:09] <Valen> we do stuff like that for robot wars ;->
[00:34:11] <Valen> as weapons
[00:36:54] <Loetmichel> it was great for seperating glued-on workpieces BLOW the work done ;-)
[00:36:59] <Loetmichel> BELOW
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[00:58:23] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
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[01:23:31] <jdh> no.
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[01:36:25] <Connor> Frack. Replacing the Diode DIDN't fix my speed controller! :(
[01:36:43] <Valen> blown diode won't often kill a speed controller
[01:36:50] <Valen> assuming its in the output side
[01:36:57] <Valen> usually something else will blow
[01:37:02] <Connor> It's on the control side.. not the driver side.
[01:37:06] <Valen> (fets are often coupled with diodes)
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[01:59:42] <ReadError> hey Loetmichel
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[02:38:38] <Jymmm> Bah, andy is just a 9 to 5'er... bastard!
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[05:18:59] <AR_> i forget if i asked this before
[05:19:15] <AR_> does anyone here have a spindle setup with a VFD?
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[06:10:27] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[08:02:43] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[08:17:45] <Mr_Wolfsl> Hi
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[08:24:23] <DJ9DJ> hi there
[08:24:28] <Mr_Wolfsl> Can I install ubuntu-10.04-linuxcnc3-i386.iso on a arch amd64?
[08:24:34] <Mr_Wolfsl> Hi
[08:25:27] <Valen> yes
[08:25:37] <Mr_Wolfsl> ok thanks
[08:26:04] <Mr_Wolfsl> cause I have some problem with my pc
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[08:45:51] <Loetmichel> <- is cleaning the workshop here in between two projects... i want an apprentice again to do the do the sweeping :-) (its unbelieveable how much trash is generatet from only 5 Cpu boxes and monitors... paper box: full. Packing foam box: full... scrap steel box: full...)
[08:46:04] <Loetmichel> -t+d
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[12:53:07] <archivist> jthornton, do you use threading (g76) much
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[13:00:47] <jthornton> yes
[13:08:48] <archivist> do you notice errors in pitch due to acceleration and deceleration ramps
[13:09:36] <archivist> or are you thinking near enough :)
[13:11:45] <archivist> I think the docs or g76 itself needs a fix to either error if impossible at that speed or user needs to add space for the ramps
[13:14:37] <jthornton> I've not seen any pitch errors
[13:15:31] <archivist> if your servos accelerate fast enough you wont see, I do due to slow stepper acceleration
[13:16:26] <jthornton> seems odd that it doens't throw an error if the axis can't keep up
[13:16:47] <Tom_itx> no feedback could cause that
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[13:16:49] <jthornton> what RPM are you threading at?
[13:17:16] <archivist> you can turn up the spindle so the z is on the limit linuxcnc still does not error
[13:17:55] <archivist> I think errors are deliberately ignored due to the wait for index and then accelerate part
[13:18:45] <archivist> it cannot be "in gear" in that phase
[13:20:36] <archivist> 400 rpm was the max rpm for that thread (Z at limit), I used 160 rpm to get a good enough thread
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[13:59:18] <Jymmm> 3 phase converter
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/3553199163.html
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[14:48:48] <Mr_Wolfsl> When I'm in world mode the max velocity take the TRAJ then my axis Z is too fast
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[15:48:02] <Loetmichel> re @ home
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[16:13:00] <mrsun> hmm what i miss in some cad/cam programs is the stock definition ...
[16:13:11] <mrsun> atleast say heekscad does not take this into account to remove material ...
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[16:39:16] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[16:46:31] <IchGuckLive> no
[16:46:59] <tjb1> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/members/jimcolt.html
[16:46:59] <IchGuckLive> i asked hypertherem germany as it is 40km to go but no plug only pins
[16:47:24] <tjb1> He gave me digikey part numbers but i deleted the message
[16:47:34] <tjb1> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3090951/Powermax45_Service_Manual.pdf
[16:47:42] <tjb1> Last 2 pages in that PDF are the wiring diagrams
[16:48:25] <tjb1> Wait I found them - CPC Pins - A99521-ND - Digikey
[16:48:26] <tjb1> CPC Wire Clamp - A32516-ND - Digikey
[16:48:26] <tjb1> CPC Plug - A1358-ND - Digikey
[16:49:56] <tjb1> Class, bye all
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[17:54:21] <tjb1> h
[17:54:28] <IchGuckLive> Back
[17:54:40] <tjb1> You get the part numbers?
[17:54:45] <IchGuckLive> tjb1 nice its a standart 17-14 CPC
[17:54:56] <IchGuckLive> so i can get it from local dealer
[17:55:07] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: are you in europ
[17:55:10] <tjb1> Did you see wiring diagrams?
[17:55:12] <tjb1> Im in US
[17:55:25] <IchGuckLive> jes iv seen this i got it also in german
[17:56:43] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: the connecting of the safty hack woudt be interesting
[17:56:44] <tjb1> See plug J10 on the last page
[17:58:26] <tjb1> All you have to do is add that MECH jumper
[17:59:20] <IchGuckLive> yes but your solution give me back the hand version
[17:59:33] <IchGuckLive> at a switch
[17:59:36] <tjb1> My solution doesnt disable the hand version
[17:59:53] <tjb1> Due to me being lazy and not having a DP switch
[18:00:19] <tjb1> All my switch does is add-remove the jumper
[18:00:27] <tjb1> It should add jumper and disconnect the violet wire
[18:00:59] <IchGuckLive> so the hand torch start is disabled also
[18:01:11] <tjb1> Yes but I didnt do that
[18:01:14] <IchGuckLive> on the violet wire
[18:01:40] <IchGuckLive> but where did you interact at the torchplug itself or at the control card
[18:01:50] <tjb1> the wires from the plug on the panel
[18:01:56] <tjb1> between there and where they connect to the board
[18:02:31] <tjb1> Dont say that to Jim, he isnt a fan of using a hand torch
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[18:03:33] <tjb1> The only ways to do it in the torch lead itself are more the violent pin to the MECH position and put a zip-tie on the trigger
[18:03:48] <tjb1> or buy another pin for the lead
[18:04:13] <tjb1> *move the violet pin...
[18:04:14] <IchGuckLive> but it is comen as you then can easy cut the supports otherwise hasadez parts will fall off and get your touch in bad shape
[18:05:15] <tjb1> my torch will almost always be on the table so I am not worried about someone else starting it
[18:06:25] <IchGuckLive> agree
[18:06:37] <IchGuckLive> but not at myne
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[18:11:00] <tjb1> If I had a DP switch I would cut the violet wire too
[18:12:07] <IchGuckLive> B)
[18:12:13] <IchGuckLive> dont cut the wrong
[18:12:22] <IchGuckLive> you got a solder !
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[18:22:24] <tjb1> solder?
[18:25:43] <IchGuckLive> to fix it B)
[18:26:16] <archivist> americans miss spell solder
[18:26:34] <tjb1> No sorry im just not use to reading it
[18:26:37] <tjb1> Yes I soldered them
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[18:29:37] <alosindustrials> hi
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[18:42:57] <tjb1> Hello.
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[19:16:48] <tjb1> Oh boy, I found the gba emulator for android
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[19:19:14] <IchGuckLive> nice
[19:19:34] <IchGuckLive> TheLarch: welcome to our channel
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[19:48:44] <tjb1> ro
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[19:57:15] <alpha1125> anyone played with the raspberry pi for CNC or other stuff?
[19:58:42] <JT-Shop> there is some chatter on the forum about raspberries and blueberries
[20:00:26] <alpha1125> I miss playing with the lathe and mill…
[20:00:33] <alpha1125> I stopped after I got a full time job...
[20:00:55] <alpha1125> and now that I have some extra cash, I never had time… (work, kid, life)… it was such a fun hobby
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[20:01:57] <JT-Shop> most folks go through that phase but it only lasts 20 or so years
[20:02:03] <TheLarch> alpha1125, it can run LinuxCNC headless, some other arm boards hav been ported as well
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[20:14:35] <pcw_home> Looks like the cubie board is available now
[20:14:37] <pcw_home> looks pretty nice for $49.00
[20:20:18] <TheLarch> I have to get my hands on a cubie to test the IRQ's
[20:20:47] <pcw_home> I'm interested in how fast you can toggle the GPIO
[20:21:27] <pcw_home> (to make a simple 8 or 16 bit bus for FPGA interface)
[20:22:09] <TheLarch> I have had the only released partial data sheet for the a10 but it doesn't have much for the GPIO's
[20:22:19] <TheLarch> we will just have to see
[20:22:34] <pcw_home> I could use the SPI (which doesnt have much data either)
[20:22:48] <TheLarch> there is a fast NAND interface that aslo could be used
[20:23:20] <TheLarch> the reports have been that SPI works well on the A10
[20:23:29] <pcw_home> Is that brought out on the cubie?
[20:23:37] <pcw_home> (nand)
[20:23:48] <TheLarch> Olimex has an a10 board in the works with 2GB DDR3
[20:24:12] <JT-Shop> anyone use a Buffalo soldering machine and can tell me how to use it
[20:24:29] <TheLarch> pretty sure the NAND is there since they router all the GPIO and it's shared
[20:24:47] <pcw_home> Why would you solder a buffalo?
[20:24:50] <TheLarch> some pins have 4 different posibilities
[20:24:58] <JT-Shop> to keep them from wandering off
[20:25:05] <pcw_home> lol
[20:25:15] <JT-Shop> http://buydentalequipment.com/dental-lab-equipment-soldering-machine-c-92_300/buffalo-dental-soldering-machine-p-2894
[20:25:18] <JT-Shop> like that one
[20:25:53] <pcw_home> Ahh a resistance soldering station
[20:26:08] <pcw_home> My wife has one for jewelry
[20:26:11] <JT-Shop> Ricky want's to solder some silver with it
[20:26:25] <TheLarch> 2000 deg F
[20:27:10] <TheLarch> spot welder
[20:27:18] <JT-Shop> do you position the part on the carbon with the ground clip then press the foot petal to heat?
[20:27:26] <JT-Shop> we have one but no instructions
[20:27:50] <pcw_home> Yes something like that
[20:28:24] <JT-Shop> ok, we will attempt to self teach with some copper sheet parts
[20:28:39] <pcw_home> you ground the work and use the carbon as the heat source
[20:29:31] <JT-Shop> ok, that makes sense
[20:29:35] <pcw_home> the high resistance point of contact of the carbon to the work provide the localized heat
[20:30:06] <JT-Shop> Ricky is nodding his head now
[20:30:12] <JT-Shop> thanks Peter
[20:31:05] <pcw_home> It _is_ a little like a spot welder (very low voltage but high current)
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[20:38:40] <pcw_home> OK I see nand pins are on port C
[20:42:30] <pcw_home> might be better to use LCD pins as GPIO , not sure I want so share the nand interface with the on card chip
[20:44:36] <pcw_home> (in case its in the middle of a Xfer during a Real time interrupt)
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[20:55:59] <gene__> Silly Q guys. Trying to use my gage as both home and G38 uses. Is it required that I put in logic to disable the motion.probe-input when an axis is homing?
[20:59:17] <JT-Shop> yes, any time the probe trips when not in a probe move is a fault
[21:02:08] <gene__> Grrrr, screws with homing.
[21:02:43] <pcw_home> need another input
[21:04:06] <gene__> Ahh, then why does it trip when moving away from contact? I had to take the g38.4 stuff out of the calibration routine because g38.4 tripped, but g1 the same distance didn't
[21:04:40] <gene__> I am going to see if I can disable the probe signal while its homing instaed
[21:04:50] <gene__> Thanks John
[21:06:11] <gene__> Hummm, we need a one piece nand module
[21:07:18] <pcw_home> or just use LUT comp its, omnilogical
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[21:13:15] <gene__> humm, lemme look that one up, thanks Peter
[21:16:50] <gene__> lut5, looks like I couild swap my final and in the probe networks out for that, but might need some help with the truth tables.
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[21:25:44] <gene__> Peter: Define "function" in setp lut5.N.function 0xN please
[21:26:48] <gene__> can it be and, nand, nor, xor? Man page miss-fires
[21:28:27] <gene__> Ah, man page is better than wiki docs
[21:28:41] <gene__> Mqaybe I can figure it out now
[21:28:52] <gene__> Maybe I can figure it out now
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[21:44:51] <Tom_itx> sounds like tig without the gas
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[22:04:11] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:06:59] <gene__> Ok, one last, search_vels are ignored, goes wide open
[22:08:27] <gene__> ini syntax wrong?
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[23:09:15] <gene__> Help, I can't get final position to match. Is position.txt fighting with me?
[23:12:11] <JT-Shop> gene__: you can make lut do anything
[23:12:18] <ReadError> so i got something in my eye
[23:12:19] <gene__> My gage is 4.09999 long, so that is what I have home_offset set to in the ini file
[23:12:34] <ReadError> i always wear my safety glasses too ;(
[23:12:45] <JT-Shop> gene__:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/rtcomps.html#sec:lut5
[23:12:52] <ReadError> so i scratched the white part of my eye up now its infected
[23:12:57] <ReadError> and inflammed
[23:13:14] <gene__> then home = 4.5, but its running to 9.49999= about 5" off true
[23:13:36] <gene__> Ouch
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[23:15:18] <gene__> John, yes, I think I have it working although not fully 'net'ed yet. Logic out looks good
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[23:18:50] <gene__> In fact, when I run it back to equal the left end of the gage, the dro says its at that HOME_OFFSET = 4.09999 WTF?
[23:19:43] <gene__> deleted the line for position.txt, no diff.
[23:20:18] <gene__> That is the point that I want the DRO to say 0.000000
[23:21:39] <JT-Shop> do you have a G54 offset in effect?
[23:23:59] <gene__> Yes John
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[23:24:55] <gene__> I thought that is/was the default?
[23:25:09] <gene__> MDI says its on
[23:28:09] <gene__> I took the G54 out on the .INI but its still there after a restart
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[23:30:39] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_when_you_8217_re_lost
[23:31:17] <gene__> I have G7, G18, G20, G90, G97 left in the ini, but it still shows G54 on a restart
[23:31:43] <JT-Shop> the G54 coordinate system is the default
[23:32:09] <JT-Shop> do a G55 and if your DRO changes you have offsets set in G54
[23:32:30] <JT-Shop> G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 (clear offsets for X,Y & Z axes in coordinate system 1)
[23:32:41] <JT-Shop> from
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#_g10_l2_set_coordinate_system_a_id_sec_g10_l2_a
[23:32:47] <JT-Shop> brb
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[23:34:36] <Jymmm> http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/16/fillmmaker-gets-four-years-in-prison-for
[23:34:39] <Jymmm> and as someone said, he can now make "50 Guys, 1 Shower"
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[23:38:21] <gene__> Ok, did that, dro's now zeroed, machine itself in far right field :)
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[23:40:12] <gene__> I just put the length of the gage back in the HOME_OFFSET as -4.0999, which, IIUI, should be zero at the left end end of the gage its contacting the right end of for a home position. Right?
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[23:42:16] <gene__> Wrong apparently
[23:50:22] <gene__> Got it, definite maybe. Set the gage nominally 1" from the workpiece, homed it, dro says -1.0xxx at face of workpiece.
[23:51:56] <gene__> Turns out the OFFSET is what you want it to think it is when final contact is made, and final pos can be anyplace that doesn't crash the gage. I'm gettin there
[23:53:53] <gene__> Now, I need that rockhopper thing working, but its worthless when it won't use the browsers scroll bars, but tries to shrink it to fit. Can't read 2 pixel high fonts
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[23:58:05] <gene__> thanks john, that ought to be put in an .ngc file to be run at startup, then home it.
[23:58:18] <gene__> so I likely will
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