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[05:50:01] <tjb1> Been quiet here
[05:50:04] <tjb1> Everyone dead?
[06:18:58] <theos> yup
[06:26:34] <tjb1> Someone spoke!
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[07:01:22] <mrsun> hmm thinking of building a length feed for the lathe .. just a gear that goes to the rack thingie on the lathe (i have no seperate feed axle on the lathe, just the leadscrew) think this would be a good idea? :)
[07:01:41] <mrsun> some kind of wormgear and maybe a stepper motor or something =)
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[07:37:26] <archivist> drive the leadscrew
[07:40:22] <mrsun> ye sure but isnt the seperate drive on lathes there to not do extra wear on the leadscrew ? :)
[07:43:02] <archivist> only on the better quality lathes was a separate feed shaft often added if the lathe has powered cross feed
[07:43:55] <archivist> or they put a slot in the leadscrew for that function
[07:44:14] <archivist> my southbend has a slot
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[07:47:14] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[14:51:19] <JT-Shop> morning
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[15:47:58] <IchGuckLive> hi all out ther
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[18:02:15] <IchGuckLive> Hi all B)
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[18:25:41] <skunkworks> well - I think I am over the hump of a cold/flu... yay
[18:26:17] <archivist> cant blame me I was far away
[18:26:32] <archivist> mid november for me
[18:26:38] <skunkworks> heh
[18:27:05] <skunkworks> christmas time - too many people.
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[18:33:33] <IchGuckLive> so best to go onliine shopping for flu
[18:33:43] <IchGuckLive> O.O B)
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[20:13:03] <Loetmichel> re at home
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[20:58:36] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/JqdVT.jpg
[20:59:14] <Jymmm> lol, is that yours?
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[22:33:44] <tom3p> google translate really butchers this
http://cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2430&p=47969#p47969
[22:34:04] <tom3p> anybody speak Russuin and willing to read the page?
[22:34:43] <tom3p> i see they use 'EDM' and 'LinuxCNC' and i see the toolpath reversing , so i'm interested
[22:37:30] <tom3p> dang! Russian ( -10sp)
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[22:39:00] <PCW> roooshians
[22:41:15] <tom3p> they invented it :) the Lazerenkovs, husband wife team invented the servo controlled EDM, before that it was hand controlled ( ugly!)
[22:45:16] <PCW> That interesting, you mean the arc? voltage feedback
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[22:47:07] <rob_h> does that not change code from G02 to G03 vis versa from looking at vid.. as one code has a / on it when he presses
[22:47:15] <rob_h> + or - it changes up and down code tree
[22:55:53] <tom3p> PCW in EDM the gap sense voltage is used just like an r-c servo, the motor seeks to equalize the actual voltage and the setpoint voltage, but in cnc, it's along a path
[22:57:09] <tom3p> rob_h, it doesnt go around the corner either, its bounded by startpoint, and in Russian they discuss this problem (afaict )
[22:57:45] <rob_h> i see
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[22:58:11] <tom3p> rob_h, that is to say, it cant back up more than 1 geometric description ( its important for WEDM but not the strategy used in rela EDM ( SINK :)
[22:58:12] <rob_h> yea if only i could reaplce the crap agie CNC control on our CNC EDM
[22:58:36] <tom3p> what model? i was head of AGie sink edm for many years
[22:59:00] <rob_h> cant rember of top my head, but no one at Agie wants to know as some things dont work as should on it
[22:59:12] <rob_h> but as its older than 10 years they dont care
[22:59:57] <tom3p> you can buy a Heidenhain, Aerotec Pmac or (whazzat SPansih one i used for 8 axis edm drills? ) Senza maybe
[23:00:03] <rob_h> it has a problem with low Gen settings too, i fixed it alittle but not quite 100%, never got its electrode changer to work ether
[23:00:43] <rob_h> take it replaced the Generator then too?
[23:02:29] <tom3p> no, the geerator is another story, try RedLine of Austria, rack mount EDM supplies, 80 amps per slot
[23:02:37] <tom3p> generator
[23:02:43] <rob_h> but we Mill 90% our mould tools now days, only sink stuff u cant get a cutter into
[23:03:00] <tom3p> ribs, subgates, suckers
[23:03:07] <rob_h> ye
[23:03:09] <tom3p> square corners
[23:03:40] <rob_h> we are mainly high pressure die, for Alli & mag, dont get into plastic realy
[23:03:49] <rob_h> unless its own products for our own machines
[23:04:13] <tom3p> oh yeah, theres retrofits fdrom Belmont, esp if you are west coast
[23:04:23] <rob_h> i am UK
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[23:06:17] <tom3p> avoid the lo gen settings, use higher with a ballast resistor ( reliable work around )
[23:06:45] <rob_h> tend to use lower for finishing/polishing
[23:08:34] <tom3p> yes peak drops from ruf to fin. your little AGie surface fin chart and example plate lists them with triangles v rough vv prefin vvv fin vvvvv damn fine :)
[23:08:47] <rob_h> i think its the 3/4amp an below it has problems does not switch into them some times.. its odd prob
[23:08:48] <rob_h> yea
[23:09:19] <rob_h> prob is we had machine 2nd hand dont have many manuals for it, was silly cheap tho at mo time and had its 3R so was bargin realy
[23:09:53] <tom3p> older agie generator is 3amps per transitor ( big european BDY transitors ), easy to fix
[23:10:19] <tom3p> less power is achieved with balast resistor built into top of box
[23:11:05] <tom3p> 60L power supply maybe?
[23:11:24] <rob_h> its the 2U model
[23:12:07] <tom3p> ooh! you got new stuff with the U line. newer that 1990 maybe newer
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[23:12:12] <rob_h> http://www.ise.osu.edu/research_labs/MPL/manufacturing/Agie%20EDM.htm
[23:12:16] <rob_h> ;like that, big ass cabnet behind it
[23:12:22] <rob_h> chiller for dialectric etc
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[23:12:55] <rob_h> i think it does fancy monitoring and adjusts it self, as when it gets stuck it trys to fix its own flushing and stuff
[23:13:01] <rob_h> more annoying sometimes than good
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[23:14:19] <tom3p> haha turn off the fuzzy, no back seat drivers
[23:14:54] <rob_h> tryed to get manual from Agie but they never called back one we got seems for slightly diff machine in places
[23:15:28] <tom3p> how do i get a bew page on wiki? notes say use a placeholder LikeThis and you should get LikeThis[?] back and you can click on the [?] to goto new page
[23:15:39] <tom3p> ^^^ doesnt work :/
[23:16:16] <cradek> edit your url and you'll go to a blank page which you can then edit
[23:16:33] <tom3p> rob_h, AGie never released useful manuals to user, only blockschildiagramms ( block diagrams)
[23:16:39] <tom3p> cradek thx
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[23:19:10] <tom3p> cradek, i had it couched in a <pre> </pre> doh!
[23:19:38] <tom3p> works fine without
[23:22:40] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[23:43:22] <tom3p> are any of these formats allowed on wiki? jpg , ogg , mp4
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[23:52:50] <tom3p> will need to locate $MaxPost but look at
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BlenderHalEDM in the meantime for Blender as a tool to explain Hal networks
[23:52:56] <tom3p> gnite
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