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[00:29:37] <icee> valve springs is an awesome idea. i tried the 2x4's and it works well enough for now
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[02:06:05] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Vnt7euRF5Pg&vq=medium
[02:08:12] <Tom_itx> i was rather surprised how empty the mall was today
[02:08:17] <Tom_itx> as well as best buy
[02:08:34] <Tom_itx> nearly like a weekday in the middle of summer
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[02:23:27] <andypugh> I wonder how many folk there had no idea they were in a Falshmod
[02:23:45] <andypugh> Or even a Flashmob
[02:24:03] <tjb1-mobile> Is it bad to move a stepper manually when the drive isnt under power?
[02:24:16] <jdh> not for the motor
[02:24:23] <Tom_itx> it could be bad on the driver
[02:24:43] <andypugh> Only if you move it rather fast, I supect.
[02:24:56] <tjb1-mobile> Ill have to ask gecko about it
[02:25:17] <andypugh> I do it quite often (as my lathe is still usable manually) and nothing bad has happened yet.
[02:25:32] <jdh> shouldn't hurt a gecko
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[02:25:53] <tjb1-mobile> My drive fault light lights up when I move mine
[02:25:57] <Tom_itx> no probably not but all drivers aren't created equal
[02:25:58] <tjb1-mobile> Thats when drive is unpowered
[02:26:28] <andypugh> I have to say that flashmobbing is one one the most fun things that social media have brought us.
[02:26:44] <Tom_itx> yeah
[02:27:24] <andypugh> OK, I am drunk and I am bored, and I have eBay open. What should I look for?
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[02:27:33] <jdh> uh oh.
[02:27:41] <Tom_itx> anything you don't really need but possibly want
[02:28:00] <Tom_itx> if you searched when sober it wouldn't cross your mind to get it
[02:28:48] <andypugh> Hmm, latex basque
[02:29:05] <andypugh> (not _nearly_ that drunk)
[02:30:12] <tjb1-mobile> Little late for you andypugh ?
[02:30:19] <andypugh> 'appen
[02:32:47] <andypugh> Though my frequent search for "cnc lathe" with condition "for parts or not working" has found something:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cnc-lathe-/230891194210?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item35c2300762
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[02:35:27] <jdh> looks like it needs a lot of space
[02:35:35] <tjb1-mobile> Home and garden hug
[02:35:37] <tjb1-mobile> Huh
[02:35:40] <andypugh> That's why it isn't mine now.
[02:37:10] <andypugh> I wonder if you can make a living fixing up that sort of thing?
[02:37:37] <jdh> any living, or a decent living.
[02:37:40] <Tom_itx> i suppose tool suppliers do
[02:37:41] <tjb1-mobile> Why dont you try
[02:38:14] <andypugh> Well, yes, I make a good living from my job, so that would only be a backup if it went wrong.
[02:38:17] <Tom_itx> or you could lcnc it and make a living making parts
[02:39:12] <Tom_itx> the extras alone may be worth the 2k
[02:41:24] <kwallace> For a long time there has been too little margin in making parts, unless one finds a specialty.
[02:42:07] <jdh> http://www.ebay.com/itm/121033757061
[02:42:21] <jdh> that woudl be fun to play with for a bit. Don't suppose you could actually cut much with it.
[02:48:34] <kwallace> Too bad that EMCO doesn't have the tool changer, although it might be easy to make one. Slap a dumpster PC and LinuxCNC on it and put it back on eBay with a fancy video.
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[02:50:16] <andypugh> That's pretty cheap for a little Emco
[02:50:51] <kwallace> Andy, I had to look that one up, can't seem to get it out of my mind.
[02:50:52] <jdh> there is a tool changer on there for $450
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[02:55:47] <tjb1> Is there a debounce setting for limits? Mine is blowing by a 1/2" wide target at 400 ipm
[02:56:29] <jdh> you can add one, but there isn't by default.
[02:56:39] <Tom_itx> i added one on mine
[02:57:25] <tjb1> Well I was hoping to turn something down...
[02:57:37] <tjb1> I can see the switch activated but Linuxcnc doesnt always treat it as a limit
[02:57:41] <jdh> does it not see it at all, or just not in time?
[02:59:01] <tjb1> Both
[02:59:21] <tjb1> I havent checked to see if the input is triggering with hal meter
[02:59:27] <tjb1> But I can see the prox sensor light up
[03:00:33] <kwallace> humm, this one is an hour's drive away
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300828261507?. I wonder if they'll sell it whole?\
[03:01:03] <andypugh> how far do you travel in 1mS/
[03:02:45] <tjb1> 400 ipm = .16933 meters per second
[03:02:49] <tjb1> Is that what you wanted?
[03:02:56] <jdh> 6.66 thou?
[03:03:14] <tjb1> Oh 1 millisecond, silly metric...
[03:03:51] <tjb1> Yeah what jdh said
[03:04:07] <andypugh> I get 75 servo-threads per 1/2" travel. Either you have a very long debounce, or it simply isn't triggering the hal pin
[03:04:09] <tjb1> Target for prox sensor is .562" wide
[03:04:28] <tjb1> I havent set up any debounce
[03:04:39] <jdh> is it a cheap chinese prox switch?
[03:04:43] <tjb1> Yes
[03:05:13] <andypugh> Wierd thing with my machine. it is set to metric. G0 Z10 moves Z 10mm. Axis display shows a move of 245mm.
[03:05:26] <andypugh> (err, 254).
[03:05:50] <andypugh> It seems that Axis (and only Axis) is reading positions as inches, but displaying in mm.
[03:05:58] <jdh> bad wiring perhaps? (if the led lights, but the pin doesn't)
[03:06:07] <andypugh> I guess I forgot an INI flle setting.
[03:06:15] <tjb1> I think something with the G540…its going back this week because of bad outputs
[03:06:21] <tjb1> The inputs have also been fuzzy lately
[03:06:41] <tjb1> The prox sensors use to light up dimly then get bright when triggered…they arent doing that anymore
[03:07:00] <andypugh> tjb1: Might be your 5V not being 5V. Look for a common-mode failure, and that is more likely to be outside the G540.
[03:07:13] <tjb1> andypugh: Its a sinking signal
[03:07:41] <Aero-Tec> so does anyone know how to disable a limit for a rotary axis?
[03:07:56] <Aero-Tec> do you set limit to 0?
[03:08:21] <jdh> those little emco's seem to be expensive.
[03:08:29] <Aero-Tec> I just hit the limit
[03:09:13] <Aero-Tec> also I am in mid production run, any way to reset the limit while a program is running?
[03:13:48] <andypugh> Ah, you hit the 999 limit?
[03:14:27] <andypugh> I think G10 L2 (or l20, they confuse me) will let you reset the position.
[03:14:52] <andypugh> Or rehoming it from the menu (but you can't do that mid-part)
[03:15:58] <kwallace> jdh: That's why I thought adding LinuxCNC to the EMCO on eBay then reselling it might make sense, at least for someone in Florida.
[03:17:29] <jdh> kwallace: I'll be an hour or so from there the day after xmas
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[03:23:24] <kwallace> Someone told me about KickStarter
http://www.kickstarter.com/ and I have been thinking about applying it to LinuxCNC. Maybe that little EMCO?
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[03:30:33] <tjb1> Anyone order that pendant for linuxcnc that was on kickstarter?
[03:30:59] <Aero-Tec> so is there a way to shut off the limit?
[03:31:05] <Aero-Tec> disable it?
[03:31:31] <Aero-Tec> I have a rotary axis and need to shut off the limit
[03:31:38] <Tom_itx> yeah
[03:32:02] <Tom_itx> tjb1, i got mine from PMDX
[03:35:45] <Tom_itx> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_homing.html
[03:36:33] <Tom_itx> HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS
[03:53:25] <Aero-Tec> looked into that
[03:53:49] <Aero-Tec> looks like it is for when the home and limit switch are the same switch
[03:54:23] <Aero-Tec> but does not say anything about it not disabling the soft limits
[03:55:24] <tjb1> anyone good with zippos?
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[04:09:17] <archivist> Aero-Tec, not sure you can disable for a rotary, most of us just set a stupid large amount for the rotation degrees possible so you never would get there
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[04:29:53] <Aero-Tec> I thought I had set it high
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[04:30:28] <Aero-Tec> but making 1000 springs at a time and I racked up a large number
[04:30:52] <Aero-Tec> I tried zero to disable it
[04:30:57] <Aero-Tec> that did not work
[04:31:06] <Aero-Tec> HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS
[04:31:12] <Aero-Tec> also did not work
[04:33:22] <Tom_itx> what if you shut them all off?
[04:33:34] <Tom_itx> #NO_FORCE_HOMING in [TRAJ]
[04:36:45] <Aero-Tec> Warning
[04:36:47] <Aero-Tec> Using this will allow the machine to go beyond the soft limits while in operation. It is not generally desirable to allow this.
[04:36:57] <Aero-Tec> it looks like that will do the trick
[04:37:07] <Aero-Tec> but does it for all axis
[04:38:13] <Aero-Tec> with a program as powerful as EMC and with all it can do, it is funny that a simple thing like turn off soft limits in a rotary axis is beyond what it can do
[04:38:38] <Aero-Tec> it would be great to have this
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[04:39:12] <Aero-Tec> most rotary axis do not care about limits, they just go round and round
[04:39:19] <Aero-Tec> can go forever
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[04:39:29] <Aero-Tec> well till they wear out
[04:40:03] <Aero-Tec> how can one request this be added?
[04:40:16] <Aero-Tec> should be a very simple add
[04:41:31] <cradek> patches thoughtfully considered
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[04:43:49] <Aero-Tec> does that mean this request is in the works?
[04:44:40] <Aero-Tec> could do
[04:44:51] <Aero-Tec> #NO_FORCE_HOMING in [axis]
[04:45:35] <Aero-Tec> disable one axis
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[05:08:41] <Aero-Tec> one other way EMC can be set up to disable a axis soft limit is to set the min and max to zero
[05:09:21] <Tom_L> it might be, i can't remember
[05:10:06] <Aero-Tec> there should be no real world reason to set them both to zero for a real working machine, unless your wanting to disable the soft limits
[05:10:15] <Aero-Tec> I tried it
[05:10:41] <Aero-Tec> setting them to zero only keeps them from moving
[05:17:42] <Aero-Tec> well that did not work
[05:17:52] <Aero-Tec> #NO_FORCE_HOMING in [TRAJ]
[05:18:21] <Aero-Tec> it still will not allow a move with min and max for the b axis set to 0
[05:18:41] <Aero-Tec> so what is the max one can set the limit?
[05:18:46] <Tom_itx> remove the #
[05:18:49] <Tom_itx> and set it to 1
[05:19:04] <Aero-Tec> anyone know
[05:19:08] <Aero-Tec> I did
[05:19:11] <Tom_itx> k
[05:19:13] <Aero-Tec> sorry
[05:19:35] <Aero-Tec> so why would it not allow a move?
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[05:21:34] <Aero-Tec> the warning for it is
[05:21:36] <Aero-Tec> Using this will allow the machine to go beyond the soft limits while in operation. It is not generally desirable to allow this
[05:21:51] <Aero-Tec> but it did not allow me to go past the limit
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[05:38:38] <Aero-Tec> I set them tons higher then I had before
[05:38:45] <Aero-Tec> hope that works
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[07:50:19] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[12:09:56] <awallin> is there a tutorial somewhere for adding a tab into AXIS. I'd like to show a graph of some HAL values on the tab..
[12:10:20] <jthornton> with gladevcp?
[12:10:43] <awallin> whatever is easiest
[12:11:30] <jthornton> I'm guessing easy and graph don't go in the same sentence :)
[12:11:42] <awallin> well just number widgets at first
[12:11:49] <jthornton> but I may be full of it and not know it
[12:11:58] <jthornton> pyvcp is the easy way to show a number
[12:12:12] <jthornton> the manual is full of examples for it
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[13:02:26] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[13:02:52] <archivist> look at your watch or clock!
[13:03:23] <archivist> must be a coffee failure
[13:04:22] <Loetmichel> morning is when i think its time to get up. *Basta!* ;-)
[13:04:58] <archivist> layzeee
[13:06:55] <jthornton> LOL
[13:07:46] <archivist> past 1 pm here and he is an hour earlier, or should be
[13:13:27] <Loetmichel> an horr later
[13:13:30] <Loetmichel> hour
[13:13:37] <Loetmichel> its about 14:13 over here
[13:15:40] <Loetmichel> so what? its sunday, i already had the car de-iced, driven 20 minutes for 5km through the snow to get some bread buns, crossiants and butter ;-)
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[13:35:36] <MattyMatt> anyone need a big chunk of cheap titanium alloy?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/55-00-MM-DIA-TITANIUM-BAR-END-Spec-6AL4V-/271117266252
[13:40:27] <Loetmichel> MattyMatt: too expensive. i stay with silver steel or aluminium 7075, sufficient for my projects ;-)
[13:42:40] <MattyMatt> I noticed it's cheaper than a cast iron slug of similar size
[13:43:49] <MattyMatt> I'll point it out to andypugh. his cycling & boating may have a use
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[14:08:11] <MattyMatt> rats. I missed out on a 4 jaw burnard. ebay seems expensive atm. people must be getting lathes for christmas
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[14:46:59] <pilla_> Can someone point me towards the correct library that commands LinuxCNC to move the axis to a certain point, and the commands that linuxCNC sends on destination reach?
[14:47:37] <pilla_> I need to program something but I have no clue how to make it interact with LinuxCNC. I'm working in C++
[14:47:43] <archivist> libraary, are you asking the right question
[14:48:09] <archivist> linuxcnc responds to gcode
[14:49:34] <archivist> what are you really trying to do
[14:50:36] <pilla_> I need to make a program that automatically makes a scan of what's on the table. I need the program to command LinuxCNC to move the axis to a certain point, to stop there and send a signal to tell it's received then the camera will send its feed to the program.
[14:50:47] <pilla_> sorta
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[14:51:14] <archivist> write out a gcode file that has the commands
[14:51:38] <pilla_> can linuxcnc automatically grab this gcode file?
[14:52:28] <archivist> also see image2gcode
http://www.imagetogcode.com/
[14:53:09] <pilla_> the cnc machine acts as a scanner
[14:53:40] <pilla_> I need it to move its axes to scan
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[14:54:07] <archivist> there are scanning gcode programs too that output points
[14:54:35] <gmouer> sounds like you need to write a g-code program to move the axis around, pause in predetermined places and send a digital output during that pause
[14:55:11] <gmouer> a M command can send that digital output during the pause
[14:55:14] <archivist> like
https://github.com/cnc-club/linuxcnc-engraving-comp/blob/master/scan-surface.ngc
[14:55:38] <archivist> all been done :)
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[15:12:03] <pilla_> but, so, linuxcnc can just grab these gcodes?
[15:15:40] <gmouer> depends what you mean by "grab" linuxcnc can load and execute gcode files
[15:16:18] <gmouer> that image to gcode example given outputs a gcode file which can then be executed
[15:18:33] <pilla_> I realized I asked a dumb question. Nevermind! :)
[15:18:38] <gmouer> your C++ program could command linuxcnc to execute a loaded file via a HAL pin
[15:19:51] <archivist> almost anything is possible, but is it the right thing to do
[15:20:50] <gmouer> "almost anything is possible" I realize that more and more with linuxcnc, quite amazing
[15:21:52] <archivist> but reinventing a wheel is not needed when it already exists, just search a bit
[15:23:10] <gmouer> yes, but finding some of that info can be a trick searching, that site you gave github.com is one that I have not found before
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[15:24:16] <archivist> but google found it for me, the trick was nothing more than sensible search terms linuxcnc scan
[15:25:06] <gmouer> ;) google has been my friend many times in finding info I do it just like you did linuxcnc infoIwant
[15:27:38] <gmouer> Andy: my friend is going forward with his VMC retrofit and those redcap motors. Right now he is sorting out the fanuc spindle motor and getting it to run off a baldor vector drive vfd, soon it will be on to bldc component and those redcap axis motors
[15:36:22] <Aero-Tec> the problem with a google search some times is not having the right terms to use so the search gets what you want
[15:38:07] <Aero-Tec> I have had times where I had to keep searching different things, trying descriptions, or something close as I did not know just the right word or term or name of something
[15:38:31] <Aero-Tec> can get frustrating at times
[15:38:39] <pilla_> English isn't my native language either
[15:39:53] <gmouer> tell me! google comes up with hundreds of hits that you have to weed through to find the one that might actually be of interest I especially hate all the ebay items that come up when searching !
[15:41:47] <gmouer> I bet google seach power users can customize it to eliminate a lot of those spam hits in a search
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[16:00:31] <Aero-Tec> can you not put -ebay in the search and it will not show any ebay?
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[16:44:03] <JT-Shop> http://semo.craigslist.org/tls/3457247209.html
[16:46:16] <andypugh> Looks like a sturdy bit of kit
[16:46:49] <JT-Shop> yea, more than he bargined for
[16:46:52] <archivist> hehe, there is no way I would let that go, simple to roll off :)
[16:46:56] <JT-Shop> he is about 50 miles from here
[16:47:03] <archivist> go fetch
[16:47:14] <JT-Shop> no room
[16:47:37] <JT-Shop> My lathe is the size he wants
[16:47:37] <archivist> only needs another shed, you know how that works :)
[16:47:45] <JT-Shop> I bet he would trade
[16:47:54] <JT-Shop> first I have to build up some ground
[16:47:56] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: You of course DID make the walls on the new shop modular
[16:48:43] <andypugh> Sounds like a sensible swap, if his lathe is in good condition.
[16:52:43] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Still have your unloading timbers? =)
[16:53:06] <Aero-Tec> I thought G64 would make a smooth transition from move to move
[16:53:31] <Aero-Tec> I am making springs on the mill
[16:53:48] <Aero-Tec> the spindle is not turned on
[16:55:25] <Aero-Tec> it is just a tool holder and I have a 5th axis that I use for making springs, it is a universal 4th axis, portable, just a motor and planetary gear box that I connect wire forms to
[16:56:16] <Aero-Tec> anyway, it is stopping at each move, it is a spring so it should wind the spring in one move not 3 starts and stops
[16:56:53] <Aero-Tec> any help would be nice, the stops eat up time, and I have 4000 of them to make
[16:57:01] <andypugh> Aero-Tec: It should. Even normal path-following should blend rotary moves.
[16:57:25] <Aero-Tec> so what am I doing wrong?
[16:57:32] <Aero-Tec> back lash is turned on
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[16:57:46] <Aero-Tec> would that make a difference?
[16:58:03] <andypugh> I am wondering why it is three moves anyway, why not a single 1080 degree move?
[16:58:12] <archivist> G64 Px.xxx (blend tolerance mode) have you tried a tolerance
[16:58:29] <archivist> any reversals
[16:58:57] <Aero-Tec> F190000
[16:59:12] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-0.03B100
[16:59:19] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-0.01B60
[16:59:19] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-.01B500
[16:59:19] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-1B3240 ;4680
[16:59:21] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-0.02B530
[16:59:21] <Aero-Tec> G1G91B-860
[16:59:21] <Aero-Tec> that the meat of the Gcode
[16:59:21] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: sure
[16:59:27] <Aero-Tec> yes I did try the G64 pxx
[16:59:40] <archivist> I do backlash for the rotary in my gcode,
[16:59:48] <Aero-Tec> G64 P0.015
[17:00:07] <Aero-Tec> that is just under the preamble
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[17:00:28] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Heh, now you need to make them into un/load timbers =)
[17:00:31] <andypugh> There is some wierdness about how rotary and linear moves coordinate.
[17:00:41] <Aero-Tec> comes to a complete stop before doing the next move
[17:01:08] <andypugh> I have a vague recollection that inverse-time mode works better.
[17:01:19] <archivist> I would make the P larger to try
[17:01:44] <Aero-Tec> what would you suggest?
[17:02:08] <archivist> I dont know as I want exact stop :)
[17:02:32] <andypugh> You could also try a config with the rotary as your Y axis set up as a linear. That should blend the moves for you.
[17:02:43] <Aero-Tec> inverse time is controlled feed based on spindle speed is it not?
[17:02:59] <Aero-Tec> I have no spindle feed or encoder on spindle
[17:03:09] <Aero-Tec> speed
[17:03:41] <andypugh> No, that's feed per rev. Inverse Time is the _other_ mode.
[17:03:52] <skunkworks> if the accelleration is set really low - it will appear like exact stop
[17:04:03] <andypugh> Where you say how long the move will take.
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[17:04:33] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/238660
[17:05:15] <andypugh> Plasma slats?
[17:05:30] <archivist> hmm support...but only just :)
[17:06:16] <Aero-Tec> so can someone explain inverse time to me?
[17:06:17] <andypugh> A plasma cutter would be a better tool for the job, but I guess there is a bootstrapping problem there :-)
[17:06:19] <JT-Shop> yea, new ones fitted into the tank
[17:06:28] <Tom_itx> i like the nice yellow stickers
[17:06:45] <JT-Shop> I cut the first ones using the plasma on saw horses :)
[17:06:59] <Aero-Tec> I was sure it also was feed per rev not done in a different way
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[17:08:34] <JT-Shop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC1_TTlsOrM
[17:09:04] <andypugh> In G93 mode, G1 X10 A20 F2 means that the move should take half a minute. F4 means 15 seconds. (which is why it is "inverse" time).
[17:11:54] <Aero-Tec> so what possible good does that do?
[17:12:02] <Aero-Tec> what use is it?
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[17:15:59] <toastyde1th> coordinating axes that are in different units
[17:16:11] <toastyde1th> if you're doing 3+ axis machining with rotary tables, their units are in degrees
[17:16:30] <toastyde1th> so when you have a feed rate of "15," and one axis is in inches and the other is in inches
[17:16:40] <toastyde1th> that's probably not what you wanted
[17:17:09] <toastyde1th> so inverse time takes care of that and you calculate how long the move should take, and does an end-run around the problem of trying to coordinate the axis feeds
[17:20:36] <Aero-Tec> cool
[17:21:17] <Aero-Tec> I just set the speed insanely high and let the machine try to hit it
[17:22:01] <Aero-Tec> I needed the speed high for deg of rotation
[17:22:46] <Aero-Tec> I have noticed that the rotary axis speeds are not at full
[17:22:59] <Aero-Tec> nor is the linear one
[17:23:23] <Aero-Tec> linear can run at 45 but maxes out at 16
[17:23:48] <toastyde1th> 45 what
[17:24:02] <Aero-Tec> and the rotary one I am not sure what speed it is going but now where near max
[17:24:11] <Aero-Tec> IPM
[17:24:45] <toastyde1th> how long is the move
[17:24:56] <Aero-Tec> is that not what the DRO is set at?
[17:24:59] <Aero-Tec> IPM
[17:25:07] <Aero-Tec> 1 inch
[17:25:24] <toastyde1th> a one inch move isn't going to get an axis up to maximum speed
[17:25:52] <toastyde1th> you'll have to make a long ass move because the machine needs to accomodate the accel/decel
[17:25:53] <Aero-Tec> it hits 16 fast and holds
[17:26:10] <toastyde1th> weird
[17:26:16] <Aero-Tec> it could hit higher for sure
[17:27:06] <toastyde1th> you might want to talk to someone who actually knows about emc, because something could be set wrong?
[17:27:40] <Aero-Tec> I was hoping I was talking to a emc guy
[17:27:50] <archivist> it wont hit top speed if the rotary is holding it back
[17:27:51] <toastyde1th> hah, no
[17:28:05] <toastyde1th> i'm just a machinist, not an emc guy
[17:28:12] <Aero-Tec> would a G93 move make a difference?
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[17:28:49] <archivist> I dont think so because it is a co-odinated move
[17:28:56] <L84Supper> http://www.muktware.com/4946/ubuntu-1304-will-allow-instant-purchasing-right-dash#.UMOo39Fts_g
[17:28:57] <Aero-Tec> I have changed G64 P0.015 to G64 P0.15
[17:29:02] <Aero-Tec> will try that
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[17:30:09] <L84Supper> this the just the angle we needed to get LinuxCNC into new machines.... open source flexible machine controller and now Instant Purchasing of Music and software
[17:31:34] <Aero-Tec> so G93, how does one calculate F setting?
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[17:32:26] <Aero-Tec> if one used F 1,000,000 would that make the machine go as fast as it can?
[17:32:29] <toastyde1th> very few people actually calculate g93 by hand, it's for CAM packages
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[17:33:22] <L84Supper> "that end mill must bet getting dull by now, how about one of these new from Whizzly or Emko?, press here for instant ordering and delivery"
[17:33:48] <Aero-Tec> LOL
[17:33:52] <Aero-Tec> good one
[17:34:18] <Aero-Tec> your coolant is low, press here to reorder
[17:34:27] <Aero-Tec> could work
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[17:34:29] <Aero-Tec> lol
[17:34:31] <L84Supper> yeah
[17:35:28] <L84Supper> not sure how Canonicomical gets their cut
[17:35:40] <Aero-Tec> will try g64 first, then G93
[17:35:45] <Aero-Tec> see what happens
[17:36:44] <L84Supper> http://blog.canonical.com/2012/12/07/searching-in-the-dash-in-ubuntu-13-04/
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[17:37:18] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[17:38:42] <Aero-Tec> G64 P0.15 did nothing new
[17:38:50] <Aero-Tec> no change at all
[17:39:04] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: more speed requierd
[17:39:44] <Aero-Tec> F190000
[17:39:49] <Aero-Tec> that is the speed setting now
[17:40:01] <Aero-Tec> and it stops at each move
[17:40:02] <IchGuckLive> whow can you post your ini
[17:40:18] <Aero-Tec> can do
[17:40:19] <archivist> Aero-Tec, add more p
[17:40:53] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: please to check it Thanks
[17:41:17] <Aero-Tec> I started with G64 P0.015 and went to G64 P0.15 and there was no change
[17:41:28] <Aero-Tec> what P do you think I should go to?
[17:41:38] <IchGuckLive> it is maybe a simple ini foult
[17:41:46] <Aero-Tec> will do
[17:41:50] <archivist> enough to see a difference
[17:41:58] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: is it a stepper or servo
[17:42:16] <Aero-Tec> the mill is stepper
[17:42:36] <Aero-Tec> should have just said stepper
[17:42:37] <archivist> IchGuckLive, he is doing a coordinated rotary with x
[17:42:45] <IchGuckLive> then i need your worst latency and stepper friver modell to get proper numbers to you
[17:42:50] <JT-Shop> what is the max speed and accel for each axis?
[17:43:08] <IchGuckLive> JT-Shop: i told hiom to post the in i
[17:43:24] <Aero-Tec> I am getting the ini for you
[17:43:50] <andypugh> You could have been on part 2000 by now...
[17:44:42] <Aero-Tec> lol
[17:44:48] * JT-Shop goes to wash the opposum grease off my face
[17:44:51] <Aero-Tec> close but not that high
[17:45:03] <Aero-Tec> I can do about 200 per hour right now
[17:45:38] <IchGuckLive> aero is it the laser cutter with 40mm/rev speed
[17:49:17] <Aero-Tec> knee mill
[17:49:25] <Aero-Tec> I set it up to make springs
[17:49:37] <Loetmichel> *grrr*, i hate small series... 60min building of a clamp for 20 min milling the groove into the 9 locks ... inefficient :-( ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13805
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[17:53:15] <toastyde1th> no vise?
[17:54:08] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: snow hight
[17:54:57] <Loetmichel> toastyde1th: the vise is underneath tha white table
[17:55:11] <Loetmichel> but the locks have to be in the same position
[17:55:45] <Loetmichel> and are bigger at the down side, so the vise wouldnt grip them right without some distance plates
[17:55:57] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: about 10 cm or so
[17:55:58] <andypugh> You could have spent twice as long on a truly generic lock-holder for next time.
[17:56:29] <andypugh> I would have thought you could have clamped them with two V-blocks though?
[17:56:51] <Loetmichel> andypugh: i made a clamp the mast time... but i haven't found it today... :-(
[17:57:26] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/hajo/schlossnut.avi
[17:59:45] <Aero-Tec> http://pastebin.com/AMUdeE08
[17:59:49] <Aero-Tec> my INI
[17:59:56] <Aero-Tec> sorry for taking so long
[18:00:34] <Aero-Tec> the windows/linux networking did not want to play nice
[18:00:46] <IchGuckLive> MAX_ACCELERATION = 7.5
[18:01:38] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: on axis 2 16
[18:02:00] <IchGuckLive> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 22 for axis 2
[18:02:50] <IchGuckLive> MAX_VELOCITY = 30. for ayis 3 why so low it is a rotation
[18:03:21] <IchGuckLive> your scale is 500 go up to 360
[18:03:28] <IchGuckLive> on axis 3
[18:03:52] <IchGuckLive> MAX_ACCELERATION = 3600 on axis 3
[18:04:07] <IchGuckLive> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 4500 on axis 3
[18:04:09] <Aero-Tec> it is a large rotary table, 10 inch, maybe more, would have to remeasure it
[18:04:37] <IchGuckLive> axis 4 STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 4000.0
[18:04:55] <Aero-Tec> that is 500 per deg
[18:05:08] <IchGuckLive> check the limits for axis 4
[18:05:49] <IchGuckLive> yes you can go 22.000 steps per sec /500
[18:06:10] <Aero-Tec> that is a motor connected to a planetary gear, I use it for making springs
[18:06:22] <Aero-Tec> so it turns allot in one dir
[18:06:26] <IchGuckLive> no matter
[18:06:39] <IchGuckLive> your latency is 25K
[18:06:54] <Aero-Tec> not sure what it is
[18:06:57] <IchGuckLive> so at least 20k steps per second
[18:07:10] <Aero-Tec> the wiz will not go below 100K
[18:07:12] <IchGuckLive> with no loos
[18:07:38] <Aero-Tec> EMC has not complained
[18:07:56] <Aero-Tec> not sure of lost steps
[18:08:03] <Aero-Tec> so far it is looking good
[18:08:14] <IchGuckLive> if you put this numbers here the real latency and your driver modell then we can interaxt to the Hal as well
[18:08:26] <Aero-Tec> but have not had time to hammer it hard to find out
[18:09:08] <Aero-Tec> do you want my hal as well?
[18:09:19] <IchGuckLive> min and max are U32 so your numbers will give a standart error but will run
[18:09:26] <IchGuckLive> no hal is not needet
[18:09:30] <Aero-Tec> I can post the number of the tester
[18:10:04] <Aero-Tec> 12500 if mem serves me
[18:10:18] <Aero-Tec> some where around there
[18:10:36] <Aero-Tec> can retset and find out the exact number
[18:10:41] <Aero-Tec> retest
[18:10:43] <IchGuckLive> let it run with 4 times glxgears and copy somthing around the HDD
[18:10:56] <Aero-Tec> ok
[18:11:00] <Aero-Tec> BRB
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[18:23:51] <Aero-Tec> sure bogged it down
[18:24:02] <Aero-Tec> took forever for things to come up
[18:24:09] <Aero-Tec> 8855
[18:24:21] <Aero-Tec> 10712
[18:24:22] <IchGuckLive> good and your driver
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[18:24:38] <Aero-Tec> that was jitter
[18:24:39] <IchGuckLive> a gecko leadshine ....
[18:24:46] <Aero-Tec> not sure what you asking now
[18:24:56] <IchGuckLive> the stepper driver
[18:24:59] <Aero-Tec> gecko
[18:25:00] <andypugh> FWIW the stopping at the end of each move has nothing at all to do with latency.
[18:25:07] <IchGuckLive> 201 203
[18:25:12] <IchGuckLive> 540
[18:25:18] <Aero-Tec> 201 I believe
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[18:25:28] <IchGuckLive> let me calculate
[18:25:34] <Aero-Tec> the cheapest ones they had 15 years ago
[18:25:38] <Aero-Tec> lol
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[18:28:37] <IchGuckLive> ok calculation on your numbers is 22kSteps/sec max save
[18:28:55] <IchGuckLive> get your latency to 15000 in the ini
[18:29:09] <Aero-Tec> ok
[18:29:17] <IchGuckLive> in Hal set sreplen to 1 for eatch axis
[18:29:24] <IchGuckLive> stepspace to 2
[18:29:33] <IchGuckLive> dirsetup to 1
[18:29:42] <IchGuckLive> and dirhold to 3
[18:30:01] <IchGuckLive> stepgen.xxxxx
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[18:31:51] <Aero-Tec> anything else need changing?
[18:32:00] <IchGuckLive> Axis 0and 1 MAX_VELOCITY = 1.2
[18:32:13] <IchGuckLive> MAX_ACCELERATION = 12
[18:32:17] <Aero-Tec> also how do I stop the stopping per move?
[18:32:47] <IchGuckLive> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 18
[18:33:34] <IchGuckLive> Axis 2 why is there sutch a high scale
[18:33:58] <Aero-Tec> when I had it set that high I would loose steps when the machine is cold
[18:34:15] <Aero-Tec> right now axis 2 is not used
[18:34:42] <Aero-Tec> I did not use the Z with mach as it was wanting to plunge through the table
[18:34:52] <Aero-Tec> and what ever else was in the way
[18:34:56] <IchGuckLive> then Axis 3
[18:35:06] <IchGuckLive> MAX_VELOCITY = 40
[18:35:12] <Aero-Tec> was very erratic
[18:35:21] <IchGuckLive> MAX_ACCELERATION = 400
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[18:35:37] <Aero-Tec> ax 3 and 4 are rotary
[18:35:42] <IchGuckLive> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 500
[18:35:51] <IchGuckLive> yes i know
[18:36:00] <Aero-Tec> 3 is a large rotary table
[18:36:04] <IchGuckLive> AXis 4
[18:36:10] <Aero-Tec> 10+ inch
[18:36:21] <Aero-Tec> with worm drive
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[18:36:44] <Aero-Tec> ax 4 is a motor and a planetary drive
[18:36:59] <Aero-Tec> used for making springs
[18:37:28] <Aero-Tec> clamped into vise and a wire form connected to it
[18:38:00] <IchGuckLive> MAX_VELOCITY = 0.51
[18:38:17] <IchGuckLive> MAX_ACCELERATION = 4
[18:38:26] <IchGuckLive> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 5
[18:38:50] <IchGuckLive> get the limits within 12digits
[18:38:55] <archivist> the rotary is a serious restriction
[18:38:59] <Aero-Tec> are you saying I should set ax 4 to that?
[18:39:08] <IchGuckLive> yes
[18:39:31] <IchGuckLive> then you got the max speed out of your drives
[18:40:11] <IchGuckLive> diont forget the stepgen numbers thease are the most imported ones for eatch axes
[18:40:13] <IchGuckLive> in the hal
[18:40:14] <archivist> max speeds are no good if they cause step loss
[18:40:31] <IchGuckLive> Save speed no loos at this numbers
[18:40:43] <IchGuckLive> there is a 2x safty in
[18:40:55] <archivist> you dont know the machine how can you say that
[18:40:58] <Aero-Tec> I got near max with v being 900, not 0.51
[18:41:14] <Aero-Tec> deg per min is it not?
[18:41:24] <IchGuckLive> deg/sec
[18:41:25] <Aero-Tec> 0.51 would take forever
[18:41:55] <IchGuckLive> Axis 4 SCALE = 38.889 steps per deg
[18:42:06] <Aero-Tec> it has low steps per deg
[18:42:12] <Aero-Tec> yes
[18:42:14] <IchGuckLive> you can only go 22k steps per secc
[18:42:18] <Aero-Tec> and 900 works
[18:42:23] <IchGuckLive> so its 0.51 deg /sec
[18:42:58] <Aero-Tec> 300 was low, went to 600, then 900
[18:43:17] <IchGuckLive> sooy im wrong it is 38dot
[18:43:38] <Aero-Tec> is the other settings your getting me to make going to make that much difference?
[18:44:09] <IchGuckLive> MAX_VELOCITY = 510
[18:44:28] <IchGuckLive> MAX_ACCELERATION = 4000
[18:44:34] <IchGuckLive> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 5000
[18:44:41] <IchGuckLive> for axis 4
[18:44:45] <Aero-Tec> will try
[18:44:47] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[18:44:57] <archivist> back up, so you can restore sense after trying
[18:45:01] <Aero-Tec> with max speed I had to set the acc to 2000
[18:45:28] <IchGuckLive> yes 900 is way to mutch per sec
[18:45:37] <Aero-Tec> I set it to 3000 as I was not getting max speed in my moves for making the spring
[18:46:05] <IchGuckLive> i need to go off for 10min
[18:46:13] <Aero-Tec> when will you be back?
[18:46:19] <Aero-Tec> any idea
[18:46:29] <Aero-Tec> thanks for the help
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[19:00:12] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: Back
[19:00:20] <Aero-Tec> me to
[19:00:27] <Aero-Tec> will post hal
[19:00:40] <Aero-Tec> I am confused about what to do with it
[19:00:58] <Aero-Tec> stepgen.xxxxx
[19:01:07] <Aero-Tec> not sure what to do with that one
[19:01:20] <IchGuckLive> in hal there are 4 entries of stepgen per axis
[19:01:58] <IchGuckLive> this difines the timing of your driver Gecko towards the latency
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[19:03:40] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: why is your scale on 0 and 1 so high i calculated a good 2540 woudt give you a very good acuracy acording to your backlash
[19:03:59] <IchGuckLive> 1/2540 = 0.0004
[19:04:45] <IchGuckLive> SCALE = 16010.0 is way tpo mutch change your leadscrew if you can
[19:06:04] <IchGuckLive> with a stepper a leadscrew TR20x4 is best to go as 400Steps/rev at the stepper gives you a metric 0.01 acuracy
[19:06:18] <IchGuckLive> and a vewry high speed
[19:07:05] <IchGuckLive> 0.01mm=0.00039inch
[19:07:51] <IchGuckLive> 1/16010 is better then the atomic clock O.o
[19:08:41] <IchGuckLive> 0.0015mm
[19:08:55] <Aero-Tec> my hal
[19:08:57] <Aero-Tec> http://pastebin.com/dk0ub2TB
[19:09:03] <IchGuckLive> ok EDM will need this
[19:09:13] <archivist> he is coil winding where is accuracy and resolution needed
[19:09:37] <IchGuckLive> setp parport.0.reset-time 5000
[19:09:46] <IchGuckLive> there is a zero missing
[19:09:59] <IchGuckLive> that is your main problem
[19:11:24] <Aero-Tec> just wanting to fine tune things
[19:11:25] <IchGuckLive> setp stepgen.0.stepspace 2 FOR all Axis
[19:11:52] <Aero-Tec> the main thing was it stopping 2 times making 3 moves
[19:13:10] <IchGuckLive> setp stepgen.2.dirhold 45000
[19:13:31] <IchGuckLive> yes it will not stop
[19:13:46] <IchGuckLive> setp stepgen.2.dirsetup 20000
[19:14:00] <IchGuckLive> give this to all axis
[19:14:04] <IchGuckLive> in hal
[19:14:29] <IchGuckLive> and dont forget the latency BASE_period in ini to be set to 15000
[19:14:49] <Aero-Tec> the ini is all done to your specs
[19:14:59] <Aero-Tec> thanks for all this help
[19:15:05] <IchGuckLive> zhen you will se your g-code runnning at nice speed no sto p
[19:16:39] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6h39Aun_Q0
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[19:17:52] <Aero-Tec> as for the lead screw and steps per inch
[19:18:20] <Aero-Tec> I have a planetary on it
[19:18:29] <Aero-Tec> more power but slower
[19:18:37] <Aero-Tec> It is a acme screw right now
[19:18:49] <Aero-Tec> soon to be upgraded to ball
[19:19:15] <IchGuckLive> balls are very cheep in this days
[19:19:23] <Aero-Tec> true
[19:19:41] <Aero-Tec> I started with nothing and a shoe string
[19:19:48] <IchGuckLive> i looked in a shop anounce 5years ago it wars 10times that price
[19:20:32] <Aero-Tec> my money has gone to tooling and supplies
[19:21:02] <IchGuckLive> http://stores.ebay.de/cnc-discount/Kugelumlaufspindel-20mm-/_i.html?_fsub=2960857013&_sid=1025469733&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
[19:21:18] <Aero-Tec> getting close to where I can now afford to redo the screws and other updates like new electronics
[19:24:53] <Aero-Tec> bought a new lathe and mill so I could use it for redoing the old lathe and mill
[19:25:21] <IchGuckLive> ok im off for today have a nice day
[19:25:21] <Aero-Tec> would hate to rip the old apart and not have anything to use if needed
[19:25:23] <IchGuckLive> BY
[19:25:28] <Aero-Tec> bye
[19:25:45] <IchGuckLive> getting the last snow shuffle of the day
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[20:08:28] <skunkworks> the mesa resolver interface - only interfaces with the 50pin (like 5i20...)
[20:08:46] <skunkworks> (7I49)
[20:08:56] <skunkworks> nothing for the 5i25 yet?
[20:09:02] <skunkworks> maybe I already asked this..
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[20:15:13] <andypugh> Yes, it's a 50pin board.
[20:15:39] <andypugh> However, it is probably possible to use it with a 5i25, it's mainly a matter of wring.
[20:16:03] <andypugh> I am liking my 7i49.
[20:16:37] <andypugh> 16777216 cpr encoders :-)
[20:19:15] <skunkworks> wow
[20:19:51] <skunkworks> andypugh: and firmware?
[20:20:12] <andypugh> I think that Mesa say that the numbers are only realy good to 16 bits.
[20:20:45] <awallin> how do you get 16 M counts?
[20:20:45] <andypugh> I think you would have to build a custom 5i25 / 7i49 firmware, then flash it to the 5i25.
[20:20:56] <skunkworks> ok - thanks
[20:20:59] <andypugh> The numbers out of the board are 24bits
[20:23:02] <awallin> ? specs say 14bit adc with about 12bit absolute accuracy
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[20:24:08] <andypugh> There is a tracking filter so that the position accuracy can be greater than the individual sample accuracy.
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[20:25:23] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1206851#post1206851
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[20:29:42] <skunkworks> andypugh: sounds like a job for bldc.comp as he wants to do it on the cheap...
[20:30:18] <skunkworks> He could buy a cheap amc drives and use bldc.comp to do the phasing...
[20:30:22] <skunkworks> maybe
[20:31:34] * JT-Shop thinks the new slats will be 1000% better than the old slats
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[20:58:58] <Tom_itx> shame mouser didn't have that opto, i'd have tried one out
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[21:03:14] <skunkworks> andypugh: for someone that has more time than money....
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[21:57:00] <JT-Shop> yikes Tornado Warning!
[22:06:45] <skunkworks> yikes?
[22:06:49] <skunkworks> !
[22:07:20] <JT-Shop> yea, the watch area is more to the north but we are on the edge so keeping an eye out
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[22:13:31] <skunkworks> be careful
[22:16:28] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:20:39] <JT-Shop> aye
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[22:42:46] <adb> aye ?
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[23:00:04] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, kinda hard to see em comin in your area isn't it?
[23:00:15] <Tom_itx> at least it's flat here
[23:00:46] <JT-Shop> you can hear them, I know from experiance
[23:00:51] <JT-Shop> all passed now
[23:00:58] <Tom_itx> good
[23:01:25] <Tom_itx> gettin kinda chilly here
[23:01:33] <Tom_itx> around 32f right now
[23:02:13] <Tom_itx> still droppin.. now 30
[23:03:08] <JT-Shop> they was on the edge of that cold front
[23:03:09] <Nick001-Shop> Still trying to get yesterdays project going. I have a vertical slide that advances and retracts with M codes. There is an end of travel switch that I have connected to a hal pin. How do I convert that true and false signal into something that M 66 can read.
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[23:10:05] <JT-Shop> what does the M66 do?
[23:10:32] <micges> read hal input into gcode variable
[23:10:32] <Tom_itx> waits for input
[23:10:48] <Tom_itx> but it doesn't say where it comes from other than input 0..3
[23:10:54] <JT-Shop> I mean in his M1xx code...
[23:12:39] <Nick001-Shop> m66 waits for a signal
[23:12:43] <Tom_itx> how do you define the inputs though?
[23:13:57] <JT-Shop> M1xx stops executing of G code until it is finished so you don't need M66
[23:14:18] <Nick001-Shop> my M105 and M106 code is parport .0.08-out true and false to a selinoid
[23:14:58] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, how would you define those on a mesa card though?
[23:15:03] <JT-Shop> ok so your doing a M105 then a M66 Px
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[23:15:19] <JT-Shop> you just connect them in hal
[23:15:35] <JT-Shop> motion.digital-in-nn <= input pin
[23:15:41] <Nick001-Shop> I need to hold M106 from executing until the end of travel switch activates witch is parport.0.pin10-in
[23:15:41] <Tom_itx> oh ok
[23:16:24] <JT-Shop> did you connect the paraport pin in hal?
[23:17:01] <JT-Shop> net slide-input motion.digital-in-00 <= parport.0.pin10-in
[23:17:18] <Nick001-Shop> yes - I can see it switchine as the switch is on and off
[23:17:40] <Nick001-Shop> switching
[23:18:39] <Nick001-Shop> just the net slide or also the motion.digital--
[23:19:48] <JT-Shop> so M105 and M106 work as expected?
[23:20:24] <Nick001-Shop> yes
[23:20:42] <JT-Shop> and you have the net line similar to the one above?
[23:21:21] <Nick001-Shop> not yet - witch lin do I use
[23:21:29] <Nick001-Shop> and would M66 P00 L3 be correct format?
[23:21:49] <JT-Shop> yes, only one 0 for P is needed
[23:21:59] <JT-Shop> net slide-input motion.digital-in-00 <= parport.0.pin10-in
[23:22:24] <JT-Shop> example from the manual M66 P0 L3 (wait for digital input 0 to turn on)
[23:23:31] <Nick001-Shop> thats what I was reading but couldn't fin the net slide info
[23:23:55] <Nick001-Shop> find
[23:23:59] <JT-Shop> an example would help in the manual...
[23:24:11] <JT-Shop> I'll speak to the manual guy in the morning
[23:24:46] <Nick001-Shop> I guess thats why I couldn't find it -)
[23:24:53] <Nick001-Shop> Ill go put this in now and be back
[23:24:59] <JT-Shop> ok
[23:28:15] <Aero-Tec> what is the best way to get one smooth movement from multi linear and rotary sync moves?
[23:29:54] <Aero-Tec> does one need to use G93?
[23:31:06] <Aero-Tec> F190000
[23:31:08] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-0.03B100
[23:31:10] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-0.01B60
[23:31:11] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-.01B500
[23:31:13] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-1B3240 ;4680
[23:31:14] <Aero-Tec> G1G91X-0.02B530
[23:31:16] <Aero-Tec> G1G91B-860
[23:31:17] <Aero-Tec> that the meat of the Gcode
[23:31:44] <Aero-Tec> should I be using G93 for this?
[23:32:12] <Aero-Tec> G65 did not work to make it one smooth movment
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[23:34:23] <Aero-Tec> G64 P0.15 did not help with smooth movement
[23:34:53] <JT-Shop> is B a rotary axis?
[23:36:07] <Aero-Tec> yes
[23:36:19] <Aero-Tec> a and b are
[23:36:28] <JT-Shop> if your using a rotary and a linear together in blended movement G93 is what is normally used
[23:36:50] <JT-Shop> your making very small moves on X and pretty big angle changes on B
[23:36:51] <Aero-Tec> instead of G1?
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[23:37:02] <Aero-Tec> yes
[23:37:08] <Aero-Tec> it is a spring
[23:37:26] <Aero-Tec> using a mill to make a spring
[23:37:53] <JT-Shop> so in effect your wanting to spiral out as the spring winds?
[23:39:34] <Aero-Tec> not sure what your seeing in your minds eye
[23:39:51] <Aero-Tec> motor is held in vise
[23:40:03] <Aero-Tec> spindle is tool holder
[23:40:19] <Aero-Tec> spindle off
[23:41:02] <Aero-Tec> motor in vise is laying along the x axis
[23:41:48] <Aero-Tec> wire form in connected to motor in vise
[23:42:47] <JT-Shop> I'm not sure either, do you have a photo?
[23:46:10] <Aero-Tec> not yet
[23:46:36] <JT-Shop> making an extension or compression spring?
[23:48:28] <Aero-Tec> compression
[23:48:58] <JT-Shop> I think I understand what your making now
[23:49:18] <Aero-Tec> I have a nice camera here somewhere
[23:49:37] <Aero-Tec> land of the lost right now
[23:51:03] <JT-Shop> so it makes a momentary stop at the end of each line of G code?
[23:53:22] <JT-Shop> you do know G1 and G91 are modal?
[23:53:39] <Aero-Tec> yes to stop
[23:53:58] <Aero-Tec> what do you mean by modal?
[23:54:05] <JT-Shop> I get an error trying to run your sample
[23:54:29] <JT-Shop> modal is they stay in effect until something else is commanded
[23:54:43] <Aero-Tec> ok
[23:54:45] <Aero-Tec> yes
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[23:55:34] <Aero-Tec> same with G93
[23:55:48] <JT-Shop> I get indexing axis B can only be moved with G0 when I try and run your snippet
[23:56:32] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/gcode/overview.html#sec:Modal-Groups
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