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[06:55:28] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[07:20:13] <Pilla_CNCpc> Hello! How do I turn off the requirement to be homed to issue MDI commands? (Don't have home/limit switches)
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[07:25:34] <archivist> there is a setting in the ini file if I remember
[07:27:38] <archivist> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_config.html see no_force_homing
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[07:42:04] <Pilla_CNCpc> Thank you
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[09:05:11] <Pilla_CNCpc> Is there an easy method of getting the coordinates of a point (relative to work piece) on the .ngc file? As in, if I think logically I can trace back what the coordinates are, but isn't there an easy way? (like, hover over the point and get the coordinates)
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[10:35:13] <Loetmichel> mornin
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[10:43:47] <Pilla_CNCpc> morning :)
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[11:56:44] <r00t4rd3d> GET OFF MY LAWN!
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[12:51:30] <r00t4rd3d> this look okay?
http://i.imgur.com/cP7QA.jpg
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[13:14:13] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSXR3FsN0EE
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[13:20:19] <alex_joni> skunkworks: nice
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[13:28:08] <jthornton> skunkworks, that tool changer is exactly like the one on my Discovery 308 VMC
[13:28:25] <jthornton> be nice to get a copy of the config files for that one
[13:28:35] <skunkworks> I wonder if he used the gcode remapping...
[13:28:45] <skunkworks> (motion during tool change)
[13:31:33] <skunkworks> I don't recognize the screen
[13:32:15] <skunkworks> it is ubuntu
[13:35:33] <alex_joni> hmm, no issues reported for kunena
[13:35:42] <alex_joni> (other than the one fixed yesterday)
[13:38:33] <skunkworks> seems to run ok...
[13:39:30] <jthornton> everything seems fine to me on the forum... I'm even getting used to the strange colors LOL
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[13:47:25] <skunkworks> heh
[13:49:24] <jthornton> attachments is pretty cool and works a lot better than before
[13:49:33] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/34-test-here/25776-attachment-test#25844
[13:53:26] <alex_joni> jthornton: I can tweak the colors if you want
[13:57:15] <r00t4rd3d> jthornton did the upgrades help with spammers at all?
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[14:09:22] <jthornton> alex_joni, where do you do that?
[14:09:29] <jthornton> r00t4rd3d, killed them dead
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[14:21:43] <jdh> then you know more about it than I do.
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[14:58:00] <alex_joni> jthornton: kunena administration
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[15:10:52] <JT-Shop> alex_joni: ?
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[15:11:40] <skunkworks> for changing colors I assume...
[15:14:32] <JT-Shop> ah yes
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[15:26:16] <kwallace> If I have a CD install then do a run-in-place install can the two installs live together?
[15:27:45] <skunkworks> yes
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[15:30:40] <kwallace> Okay, I'll go ahead and try it. I suppose one difference will be that I need to start the run-in-place version from a command line from the run-in-place directory?
[15:31:01] <JT-Shop> or you can have a script to start it up
[15:31:46] <Tom_itx> morning peeps
[15:31:53] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: you can go to kunena administration, then theme manager
[15:31:56] <alex_joni> and edit the current theme
[15:32:02] <JT-Shop> ok thanks
[15:32:06] <alex_joni> but currently all files are read-only, so it won't work ;)
[15:32:06] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, have you lit a fire in the fireplace yet?
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[15:32:20] <skunkworks> I think the config chooser will also allow you to create a icon on the desktop for rip..
[15:32:25] <JT-Shop> no, shop is sill warm from yesterday
[15:34:28] <kwallace> Okay, I'll check on the config chooser. Thanks.
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[16:54:31] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MATTEL-POWER-SHOP-ELECTRIC-LATHE-TOY-c-1964-/221072100680?pt=Vintage_Antique_Toys_US&hash=item3378ec8d48
[16:54:49] <L84Supper> circa 1964 Mattel Power Shop - Electric Lathe toy
[16:55:35] <jdh> a couple of nema 17's, some plastic acme screws...
[16:56:57] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1965-Mattel-Power-Shop-Almost-Complete-w-Instructions-Plans-4-Tools-in-1-/300800934782?pt=Vintage_Antique_Toys_US&hash=item460922037e
[16:57:08] <L84Supper> Four Tools in One Mattel real Power Shop--including Drill Press-Jigsaw-Disc Sander and Lathe
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[17:07:37] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[17:25:12] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: Wow, I'd have so wanted one of those as a kid.
[17:26:04] <FinboySlick> It's a shame that the government would take your kids away if you bought one nowadays.
[17:26:40] <L84Supper> heh, yeah, I don't recall ever seeing the Mattel power Shop as a kid....
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[17:27:06] <L84Supper> but we used to drool at the case full of mini steam engines
[17:27:52] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: Teaching kids that building stuff is cooler than blowing them up on the TV.
[17:28:31] <archivist> I still have my Mamod steam engine I got waaaaaay back
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[17:33:19] <archivist> mine is not as shiny
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAMOD-STATIONARY-SUPER-HEATED-GENUINE-TWIN-ENGINE-S-E-3-CIRCA-1960s-/230866437813?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item35c0b646b5
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[17:54:00] <tjb1> http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/30761_4505567873259_2108216470_n.jpg
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[17:57:52] <IchGuckLive> archivist: nice price
[17:58:31] <archivist> that is over restored and over priced
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[18:04:16] <pcw_home> wouldn't even want to run it, it might mar the paint
[18:04:45] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Mamod-Steam-Engine-for-Spares-or-Restoration-/380493219213?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item589729c58d
[18:05:27] <L84Supper> this looks nice
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MAMOD-Live-Steam-Engine-Toy-1950s-Brass-Boiler-Mounted-Excellent-/321004958712?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item4abd62f3f8
[18:05:33] <tjb1> 50k challenge -
http://hackaday.com/2012/10/26/find-a-way-to-stop-robocalls-to-grab-this-50k-prize
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[18:09:49] <tjb1> I got spanked pretty good having that water table bent…they charged me for 2.75 hours labor
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[18:22:47] <jdh> you usually only pay for 1 hour of spanking?
[18:23:10] <archivist> he liked it!
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[18:24:32] <IchGuckLive> archivist: nice
[18:24:44] <IchGuckLive> X-mas sale is up
[18:24:48] <IchGuckLive> http://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/
[18:25:07] <IchGuckLive> lots of stuff nice price
[18:25:46] <archivist> when I see wabeco prices over here I run...
[18:26:16] <tjb1> I had the sheet already cut to size and notched…it took them 2.75 hours to bend 4 sides...
[18:26:20] <tjb1> At $50 an hour im not happy
[18:26:51] <archivist> did theu have to program the chalk mark to bend it too
[18:27:05] <jdh> how thick?
[18:27:11] <tjb1> 12 gauge
[18:27:30] <tjb1> What archivist ?
[18:27:44] <IchGuckLive> by its snowing outasiede
[18:27:45] <archivist> did they have to change the bender dies
[18:27:51] <IchGuckLive> B) O.O ,-)
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[18:28:09] <tjb1> They didnt have a finger brake…the guy said something about having to cut a piece of 2.5" square tubing or something to do it
[18:29:10] <andypugh> I can see your point, but I can see their point too. I can't be bothered doing any sort of one-off for <£100
[18:29:54] <tjb1> I think I know what the issue is, my dad called yesterday about seeing if I needed an appointment and the woman said "So you bought the steel somewhere else but want us to bend it?"
[18:30:10] <tjb1> They are assholes :)
[18:30:22] <tjb1> And I shall be taking part of their business soon anyway so I will get over it
[18:31:24] <tjb1> I know they dont buy enough steel to buy direct from the mill so they would be buying from the same place I bought it from or a place like it, then they would likely add another $50 to the price of the material...
[18:33:41] <tjb1> The guy in front of me was ordering number/letter stamps though…poor guy
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[18:39:36] <jdh> how about a couple of 4x4's and a big hammer?
[18:40:26] <tjb1> I didnt know it was going to be $137…they said 50-100
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[18:53:05] <L84Supper> huh, most of the small cnc sheet metal fabricators around here would be happy if I pulled up with material for them to just bend and cut....
[18:53:42] <L84Supper> they wouldn't want to bother with ordering a few sheets and delivery
[18:55:40] <tjb1> This wasnt a CNC shop, just a holes that want to make a buck off every step
[18:55:55] <tjb1> Probably been 250 if I didnt cut it to size and notch it too
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[18:57:06] <tjb1> Only shop in the area that could handle a 10ft sheet and do box bending
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[19:00:54] <archivist> you could build up the shape with welded sides
[19:02:17] <tjb1> Thought about that but Its 113" long and 66" wide
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[19:19:16] <L84Supper> shett metal fabrication in China is much more lower cost, the shipping costs and times are much higher though to the US :)
[19:19:30] <L84Supper> same thing for sheet metal
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[19:46:49] <andypugh> Hasn't somebody here made a plasma tank with angle and glue?
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[19:50:31] <skunkworks> angle?
[19:54:55] <archivist> http://www.metals4u.co.uk/metal%20angle/1762/products.asp
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[20:33:45] <JT-Shop> r00t4rd3d: did you say you advertized on craigslist?
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[20:35:46] <_ink> http://imgur.com/gallery/AGEQN !
[20:37:27] <tom3p> _ink, is that extrusion technology? whats the diameter if so?
[20:38:01] <andypugh> Is that coloured after the fact, or printed in colour, I wonder?
[20:38:06] <JT-Shop> I was afraid to look
[20:38:16] <_ink> not sure, someone just sent me the link
[20:38:26] <tom3p> (and 5 colors at least, maybe able to make colors on fly )
[20:38:40] <_ink> maybe one of those zcorp plaster printers?
[20:38:43] <_ink> I think they do color now
[20:39:44] <andypugh> I have a corn-starch V8 on my desk in that same shade of green, thinking about it.
[20:39:45] <tom3p> oh i see, its a really big penny that was printed :)
[20:40:40] <andypugh> tom3p:
http://www.petapixel.com/2011/08/18/large-objects-shot-as-miniatures-using-a-giant-coin-and-tilt-shift-effects/
[20:42:05] <tom3p> haha "i am king fsking montezuma and this is the coin of my realm' (catcher in the rye)
[20:42:17] <cradek> andypugh: I love those photos
[20:42:42] <andypugh> It's a great take on tilt/shift photography isn't it?
[20:43:19] <r00t4rd3d> they sent me that coin model
[20:45:21] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.skrekkogle.com/Shopimages/50c_euro.STL
[20:45:28] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13757
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[21:04:21] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[21:12:41] <andypugh> People I vaguely know keep endorsing my skills on LinkedIn at things I don't even understand the acronyms for!
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[21:13:59] <jdh> you must be really good.
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[21:20:41] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bSXR3FsN0EE
[21:20:56] <skunkworks> he works for tormach :)
[21:21:51] <skunkworks> ok maybe not.. lomach ;)
[21:21:54] <cradek> it's a collet chuck bathing machine
[21:22:10] <skunkworks> read that too fast
[21:22:52] <andypugh> cradek: Perhaps an under-exploited niche
[21:23:18] <jdh> we could use a collet polishing machine
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[21:24:05] <andypugh> We had one of those machines at a place I worked. It was forever breaking down. I wish I knew then what I know now.
[21:24:11] <alex_joni> skunkworks: at least it's not mach
[21:26:25] <andypugh> <baffled>
http://pastebin.com/QtPgD4Lw
[21:26:55] <andypugh> There is no function "cleanup_module" in that file..
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[21:31:05] <jdh> what else are you linking against
[21:32:28] <andypugh> http://pastebin.com/UbpyiUsL
[21:32:39] <jdh> or any multiple #includes?
[21:34:08] <jdh> you have to have init & cleanup for all kernel modules. They are in there somewhere.
[21:35:52] <andypugh> I am sure you are right. This was a userspace module 30 minutes ago
[21:36:08] <andypugh> But that wasn't looking like it could work
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[21:44:09] <andypugh> Actually, can anyone answer this question for me: Is it likely that a Userspace HAL component would be able to poke about in a live kernel space driver struct if it had a pointer to it?
[21:46:16] <andypugh> (I might go back to "comp" for this.
[21:47:58] <alex_joni> poke about as in read?
[21:48:11] <alex_joni> halcmd does that all the time..
[21:50:40] <andypugh> It needs to be able to send values to hm2->llio->write (which is low-level hardware writes)
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[21:51:03] <alex_joni> that I can't answer directly
[21:51:14] <alex_joni> but I think you need a shm, and some mutexes
[21:51:28] <alex_joni> and handle the write from the rt part
[21:51:56] <andypugh> Hence deciding to make it all RT
[21:52:18] <andypugh> The only drawback is no varargs, really
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[23:39:23] * r00t4rd3d YAWNS
[23:39:34] * alex_joni goes to bed instead
[23:41:24] <r00t4rd3d> im just waking up :D
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