#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-09-04

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[00:01:20] <r00t4rd3d> lol i called this girl on reddit "princess" and now she is flipping out on me
[00:01:27] <alex4nder> laf.
[00:04:49] <mrsun> meh doesnt all girls want to be princesses ?
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[00:07:31] <r00t4rd3d> guess not
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[00:15:00] <jp__> Where in the "ini" can you set the max jog speed of the slider in axis
[00:15:15] <jp__> mine is stuck at 60ipm
[00:16:18] <jdh> max_linear_velocity maybe
[00:18:04] <Tom_itx> in the display section
[00:18:18] <Tom_itx> lemme look
[00:19:13] <r00t4rd3d> doesnt stepconf figure out what your max jog is?
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[00:21:01] <atom1> MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY and MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE in the [DISPLAY] section of the ini
[00:21:41] <Tom_itx> if MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE is 1 it will be 100%
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[00:22:07] <jp__> What one is the jog speed?
[00:22:08] <Tom_itx> mine is 1.25 iirc
[00:22:28] <jp__> My max vel is 1600ipm
[00:22:45] <jp__> but jog only goes to 60 ipm
[00:23:04] <atom1> in the display section?
[00:23:23] <jp__> in axis checking the ini now
[00:23:40] <jdh> change the 1.0 to 26.66666666666666
[00:23:41] <atom1> MAX_VELOCITY = 1.40
[00:23:43] <jdh> give or take
[00:23:45] <atom1> MAX_ACCELERATION = 51
[00:23:45] <atom1> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 77
[00:23:50] <atom1> in my axis section
[00:24:16] <jp__> MAX_VELOCITY = 1
[00:25:16] <jp__> that did it
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[00:26:17] <jp__> Gonna need some weight on this thing.
[00:26:35] <atom1> i put a counterweight on my Z axis
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[00:27:43] <jp__> The z and yaxis are on the top. so on yaxis rapids the whole machine shakes on the table
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[00:41:31] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=19346
[00:51:25] <r00t4rd3d> 5132 DXF and other art files
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[01:26:14] <r00t4rd3d> I like finding grammar nazi's on reddit. I friend them and make their lives miserable.
[01:26:54] <r00t4rd3d> your, arent, lose/loose, would of
[01:26:57] <r00t4rd3d> they joys
[01:27:01] <r00t4rd3d> dammit
[01:27:04] <r00t4rd3d> the*
[01:31:46] <ReadError> their there theyre
[01:31:48] <ReadError> GET EM
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[01:47:12] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.reddit.com/user/Readerror
[01:47:15] <r00t4rd3d> is that you?
[01:47:18] <ReadError> no
[01:47:25] <ReadError> some scab took my name
[01:47:42] <r00t4rd3d> did you ask them for it?
[01:47:55] <ReadError> or shit
[01:47:58] <ReadError> i could be me
[01:48:02] <ReadError> i just dont know how to recover it
[01:48:21] <alex4nder> yoh
[01:48:21] <r00t4rd3d> not adding verified email = fucked
[01:48:35] <r00t4rd3d> or guess your pass
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[01:51:07] <r00t4rd3d> i took 4 naps today
[01:51:22] <ReadError> bit much?
[01:51:28] * ReadError haz work tomorrow
[01:51:34] <r00t4rd3d> trying to quit smoking
[01:51:39] <ReadError> fortunately i just crawl out of bed and hobble over to the PC
[01:51:48] <r00t4rd3d> what do you do?
[01:51:49] <ReadError> and pretend to work
[01:51:52] <ReadError> linux sys admin
[01:51:56] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[01:52:22] <ReadError> its cool
[01:52:33] <ReadError> but its sad when this youngbuck has to school the older guys on how2linux
[01:52:38] <ReadError> its like bro you are 45
[01:52:48] <ReadError> coming to me asking questions? if i was 45 i would be gawdlike
[01:53:20] <r00t4rd3d> get me a job
[01:55:07] <r00t4rd3d> i never see jobs like that around here
[01:55:15] <ReadError> heh
[01:55:22] <ReadError> well they keep me around to fix shit when it breaks
[01:55:33] <ReadError> and as long as you have stupid people banging on keyboards, it tends to happen
[01:58:03] <r00t4rd3d> what distro?
[01:58:28] <ReadError> redhat enterprise
[01:58:44] <r00t4rd3d> icky.
[01:59:34] <ReadError> nah its good for production
[02:08:42] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/ZIWj5.jpg
[02:08:48] <r00t4rd3d> pretty cool looking wallpaper
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[02:18:39] <WillenCMD> anybody want to test drive an auto hal generator?
[02:22:06] <ReadError> screenshots?
[02:34:00] <WillenCMD> sure
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[02:40:05] <Jymmm> ve7it: ltns
[02:40:26] <ve7it> Jymmm, cheers
[02:40:57] <Jymmm> ve7it: hiding? jumped bail? stole $10M in maple syrup?
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[02:41:24] <ve7it> I mostly use my tablet these days and the poor power sucking desktop only gets fired up a few times a week
[02:41:47] <Jymmm> lol
[02:42:44] <ve7it> fishing has been terrible this year.... I spent all winter making gadgets on the cnc to outfit the boat, and the freezer is still empty
[02:43:16] <Jymmm> ve7it: did you put the boat in the water?
[02:43:38] <ve7it> oh crap
[02:44:18] <Jymmm> ve7it: did you leave the water in the boat?
[02:44:55] <ve7it> no, I built a crane to lift it up onto the bank when not in use
[02:45:24] <Jymmm> ve7it: can you make rooftop deposits?
[02:46:12] <ve7it> not that big a crane.... and I get tired cranking it
[02:46:32] <Jymmm> they have this thing called electricity now
[02:48:40] <ve7it> man.... I am getting so many "enlargement" emails, I think I need to check the junk in the trunk
[02:48:51] <Jymmm> ve7it: wait, you using a tablet to save electricity but have an HF rig?
[02:49:02] <Jymmm> ve7it: maye they are trying to tell you something ;)
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[02:55:56] <ve7it> Jymmm, cul.... 73 gotta run
[02:56:03] <Jymmm> 73
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[06:41:25] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[06:44:49] <DJ9DJ> moin
[06:45:14] <DJ9DJ> greetings mr. william aka Jymmm ;-)
[06:45:16] <DJ9DJ> +s
[06:47:08] <theos> :P
[06:48:32] <DJ9DJ> hi theos
[06:49:21] <theos> hey
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[06:54:30] <WillenCMD> anybody on?
[06:55:04] <Jymmm> DJ9DJ: who the hell is william?
[06:55:21] <DJ9DJ> williams!
[06:55:29] <DJ9DJ> (typo)
[06:55:36] <DJ9DJ> robin williams :D
[06:55:36] <Jymmm> (bullshit)
[06:55:43] <Jymmm> oh, heh. I get it now =)
[06:55:45] <DJ9DJ> of course ;)
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[06:56:24] <WillenCMD> https://plus.google.com/photos/108420335892310746315/albums/5784211124086428513
[06:56:43] <WillenCMD> i added some photos of the hal config gui, its still very much beta
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[06:59:53] <alex_joni> morning y'all
[07:05:06] <Jymmm> "yall"?! What joo think your a cowboy on a dude ranch or sumtin?!
[07:05:23] <Jymmm> happy trails and all that sheeeeeit
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[07:22:12] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/Mxpay.jpg
[07:22:36] <r00t4rd3d> WillenCMD, you actually use Google+ ?
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[07:35:52] <alex_joni> Jymmm: exactly
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[07:40:12] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Dracula's Dude Ranch?
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[07:46:24] <alex_joni> close, but no
[07:47:51] <Jymmm> Oh that's right, you DO ride horses, I forgot
[07:51:31] <alex_joni> see :)
[07:51:46] <alex_joni> and dracula's overrated
[07:51:54] <alex_joni> we have far nicer fellows around now
[07:52:18] <Jymmm> Is that why Dracula's Castle is going for 2.1 Million USD
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[08:12:12] <alex_joni> well, that's not really much tbh
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[08:12:34] <Jymmm> for a bunch of old rocks?
[08:13:15] <Jymmm> ;)
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[08:21:38] * Tom_itx sets this in JT-Shop's front yard http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h81000/h81481.jpg
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[08:36:05] <r00t4rd3d> omfg
[08:36:20] <r00t4rd3d> a mouse made by BMW
[08:36:23] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pressclub/p/pcgl/pressDetail.html?title=computer-mouse-designed-by-bmw-group-designworksusa-revolutionizes-the-world-of-gaming-a-futuristic&outputChannelId=6&id=T0130984EN&left_menu_item=node__6608
[08:37:40] <r00t4rd3d> http://usa.ttesports.com/productlist.aspx?c=1
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[08:54:56] <r00t4rd3d> soon as i find one of those for 99 bucks i am getting one
[08:55:07] <r00t4rd3d> they on ebay for 145 atm
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[12:05:22] <jthornton> how do you create a symbolic link?
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[12:06:53] <r00t4rd3d> ln
[12:07:35] <DJ9DJ> ln -s
[12:07:42] <DJ9DJ> ln -s <file to link to> <name of link>
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[12:08:05] <DJ9DJ> if you omit <name of link>, the link has the same name as the linked file
[12:08:19] <r00t4rd3d> ln -s /mnt/SharedFolder/blah/folder /mnt/SharedFolder/blah/link
[12:08:23] <DJ9DJ> parameter s is for symbolic link (compared to hard links)
[12:09:28] <r00t4rd3d> ln -s /var/log/dmesg /home/littleJT/dmesg
[12:10:37] <r00t4rd3d> ma ln
[12:10:41] <r00t4rd3d> man ln*
[12:11:14] <jthornton> thanks
[12:13:12] <jthornton> I never would have guessed ln for Link Name
[12:16:33] <r00t4rd3d> why do you need to create a link?
[12:17:01] <r00t4rd3d> most times ive seen it used is it fix a fk up
[12:17:09] <r00t4rd3d> is to*
[12:17:31] <jthornton> dunno I'm just doing monkey see... monkey do programming
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[12:22:24] <jthornton> trying to import a library into my gui and trying to follow the touchy example
[12:25:03] <jthornton> with poor results atm
[12:31:52] <jthornton> ah got it now
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[13:21:03] <r00t4rd3d> alcoholization litb@litb.dmdelivery.com
[13:21:03] <r00t4rd3d> to r00t.rootkit
[13:21:17] <r00t4rd3d> yeah i think ill open that attachment
[13:39:32] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/EvByO.jpg
[13:40:10] <r00t4rd3d> i find that rather odd.
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[14:20:14] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> so are all the usb motion devices, for example the smooth stepper just a board with a microprocessor that receives commands via usb serial?
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[14:27:55] <archivist_herron> they have their own motion planner
[14:31:13] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> Oh, so they actually handle the gcode internally?
[14:31:35] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> coordinate all the moves...
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[14:39:08] <archivist_herron> which is why they are not really compatible with linuxcnc
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[14:49:59] <pcw_home> Smooth stepper has a uProc (for comms)and a FPGA (for stepgen)
[14:51:01] <archivist_herron> which does the buffering?
[14:51:12] <pcw_home> not sure
[14:52:15] <Jymmm> looks like they have Ethernet SmoothStepper too
[14:53:00] <pcw_home> I have a buffered stepgen module (just velocity now) but if it was expanded to jerk the FPGA RAM would be plenty (you dont need very fast updates of a jerk limited profile)
[14:53:31] <Jymmm> Jamican spices?
[14:53:33] <pcw_home> all somewhat unrelated to LinuxCNC however
[14:54:10] <Jymmm> pcw_home: what do you mean 'jerk'?
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[14:54:49] <pcw_home> third derivative of position versus time
[14:55:19] <Jymmm> 5s delay?
[14:55:25] <Jymmm> sorta kinda
[14:56:25] <pcw_home> you know when you stop your car and ease off the brakes just as you get to a stop?
[14:56:27] <pcw_home> you are doing a jerk limited motion
[14:56:56] <Jymmm> k
[14:57:48] <pcw_home> (so the stored energy in the "springyness" of the car doesn't jerk you backwards)
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[14:59:08] <pcw_home> same thing for CNC machines (that little spike in following error at the beginning and end of motion that you just cant tune out with non jerk limited motion)
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[15:05:05] <Jymmm> pcw_home: 7I80DB ONLY accepts 5V? Not like 5-36V ?
[15:05:39] <Jymmm> or 5-70
[15:07:09] <micges> 5-400 :)
[15:07:51] <Jymmm> micges: Maybe; Just be able to tap off the existing PS, not having to add another one
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[15:08:40] <micges> 7i80 accepts only 5V
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[15:08:54] <Jymmm> I'd pay an extra $3 for that option rather than havng to buy install wire use a 2nd PS
[15:09:14] <Jymmm> Just a VR is all
[15:09:38] <micges> I see
[15:10:24] <Jymmm> Especially if the control PS was 24V, so now a cnc PS, control PS, and a logic PS
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[15:11:55] <micges> I saw machine with 5V, 12V, 24V and 48V
[15:12:08] <micges> takes up storage
[15:13:21] <pcw_home> The problem is that the 5V can supply up to 4 daughter card so maybe up to 6A, Thats fairly expensive ( more than $3.00 in parts)
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[15:20:07] <IchGuckLive> HI all from the SUNBURNED Germany
[15:20:26] <IchGuckLive> Here it is more Sun as at Burningman Blackrock City
[15:20:36] <Jymmm> Could you say that if you were in the UK?
[15:20:39] <IchGuckLive> Partyon
[15:20:56] <pcw_home> We finally got some warm weather here for a coupe days at least
[15:21:11] <IchGuckLive> .weather London
[15:22:02] <IchGuckLive> Pcw does the 5i25 work on the D525 Board
[15:23:55] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Multi-Voltage PS board up to 120VDC input =)
[15:24:15] <IchGuckLive> im off
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[15:24:48] <pcw_home> IchGuckLive: yes
[15:25:17] <psha[work]> pcw_home: toooooo sloooooow :]
[15:25:51] <pcw_home> :-(
[15:26:40] <Jymmm> 5V@6A PS is a pita to find, mount, etc
[15:27:23] <Jymmm> is a switching PS ok pcw_home?
[15:27:45] <archivist> just dig out from pile of "might be useful one day"
[15:29:14] <Jymmm> Two boxes of walworts, but 5V@6A is gonna be an old laptop PS, and seems ghetto to cable tie one in a new controller box
[15:30:18] <Jymmm> oh wait, I might have a 5V PS, not sure if it's 3 or 6A though
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[15:34:16] <pcw_home> Yes switching is OK
[15:35:02] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I'd still pay more if there was one less thing to deal with.
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[15:36:13] <pcw_home> Yeah but on any significant machine 5V will be available (and the 7I80 is not aimed at low end machines)
[15:37:29] <Jymmm> 5V for what? I can see 12/24V for relays/control lamps, and higher voltage Ps for motors/drivers.
[15:37:59] <Jymmm> Like the geckos, they tap off the motor PS for the logic voltage.
[15:40:47] <Jymmm> I'd love a step-up version of this... http://www.ebay.com/itm/LM2596-DC-Buck-Step-Down-Converter-7-35V-to-3-24V-Car-Power-Supply-12V-to-5V-/271034199744?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1ae5aec0
[15:43:42] <archivist> get a din rail supply
[15:44:19] <Jymmm> My 24V is din
[15:44:51] <Jymmm> Just have limited space for another PS is all
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[15:46:40] <pcw_home> 5V for encoders for example
[15:46:53] <Jymmm> aah
[15:47:40] <archivist> I have 5v to drive level shifters and optos
[15:49:12] <ssi> I have a 5V 50A supply lying around
[15:49:16] <ssi> but it's like 120lbs :P
[15:50:52] <pcw_home> Step up is easy step down is easy but both together is awkward
[15:51:09] <Jymmm> I like it http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-100W-3-35V-to-3-5-35V-Boost-Step-up-Module-Power-Supply-LED-Voltmeter-/170905602162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cac48872
[15:51:59] <ssi> (Input voltage is less than 4V, the on-board voltage meter failure)
[15:52:02] <ssi> hate it when that happens
[15:52:52] <Jymmm> heh
[15:53:55] <archivist> our shit comes with documented bugs!
[15:54:33] <Jymmm> Well, min output V is 3.5V, so not that big a deal I guess.
[15:59:25] <Jymmm> ssi: Though I'm glad they actually disclosed that.
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[16:00:07] <Jymmm> ve7it: WHAT?! You actually using a power hnugry PC for two days in a row?
[16:00:25] <ve7it> just for a few minutes!
[16:00:58] <Jymmm> ve7it: Yeah, and HF rigs are known for their "green power conservation"
[16:01:18] <ve7it> sure...
[16:01:24] <Jymmm> lol
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[16:03:39] <Jymmm> ve7it: Whats that glowing 1000W tube linear behind you?
[16:03:58] <Jymmm> RF Watts that is
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[16:04:13] <ve7it> that sits under the stairs waiting for a cold winter night
[16:04:25] <Jymmm> Heh, no shit huh.
[16:04:47] <ve7it> or when I feel like roasting some weenies
[16:05:27] <Jymmm> I was always scarred moving it... "dont break the tube, dont break the tube..."
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[16:06:18] <ve7it> yea 3-1000 tubes are getting kind of rare... I have 1 spare
[16:07:06] <ve7it> gene is an old broadcast guy... I should ask him if he has any sources for driver tube pulls
[16:07:16] <Jymmm> ve7it: Though we did hae some fun at 3500ft elevation and a small (8ft) 10 element beam one evening
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[16:09:05] <Jymmm> ve7it: We went slumming down on 11m ;)
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[16:19:29] <tjb1> got my g540 and steppers today :D
[16:21:33] <ReadError> awwww yea
[16:23:55] <tjb1> Kinda sad though that $1300 fit into 2 small boxes
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[16:26:59] <ScribbleJ> Somewhere someone has to have a CAD program where I can just draw the planes of the object I want and it will automatically create joins and a cutting layout for lasercutting. Probably I'd only need to tell it what size material I'm going to use.
[16:27:06] <ScribbleJ> Anyone know of anything?
[16:28:01] <Jymmm> coreldraw does joins, but not 100% automatically
[16:28:14] <ScribbleJ> Coreldraw? WTF.
[16:28:21] <ScribbleJ> I thought that was like a painting program.
[16:28:39] <ScribbleJ> Anyhow, it's only 2D isn't it?
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[16:29:02] <Jymmm> CorelDraw is used primarily in the desktop laser and embroidary industry
[16:29:25] <ScribbleJ> I'm picturing something where I can draw a 3D thing and the program will automatically deconstruct it into a set of planes I can bolt/glue together with tabs or blind nuts or whatever.
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[16:29:55] <ScribbleJ> I guess the way I asked it at first was confusing. My mistake.
[16:29:57] <Jymmm> lol, wake up toto, your not in KS anymore
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[16:30:27] <Jymmm> that'll take at least 3 different programs
[16:30:34] <ScribbleJ> Oh?
[16:30:37] <jdh> I think the 3d printer guys use software that slices 3d models
[16:30:49] <ScribbleJ> I'm a 3D printer guy. Not quite the same problem though, jdh.
[16:31:08] <ScribbleJ> That slices them into a stack of plates; I could totally use that to lasercut a 3D thing
[16:31:11] <jdh> well, that explanes it.
[16:31:51] <tjb1> im gonna try to hookup everything here and get some movement from linuxcnc, who wants to help? :D
[16:31:55] <ScribbleJ> But not what I'm looking for, which is something that'll create just the 'facets' of a thing to be put together.
[16:32:50] <tjb1> I wish mastercam would take my solid model, machine, and available tools and do the toolpaths itself ;)
[16:33:09] <ScribbleJ> It doesn't?
[16:33:21] <tjb1> You serious?
[16:33:33] <ScribbleJ> Absolutely. Why, in theory, couldn't it?
[16:33:44] <tjb1> That cost money
[16:33:48] <ScribbleJ> Oh sure.
[16:34:00] <ScribbleJ> I just assumed from the name it was one of those costly programs.
[16:34:20] <Jymmm> It it, ArtCam $10K USD
[16:34:34] <archivist> there are levels of expense with mastercam etc
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[16:35:49] <archivist> but human knows his machine and tools best
[16:37:10] <tjb1> Mastercam cant get stock setup right, I couldnt expect them to toolpath automatically
[16:39:13] <ScribbleJ> I totally suck at design.
[16:39:30] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> I use SolidCam regularly
[16:39:42] <ScribbleJ> Yesterday I spent hours designing a stupid case for my latest 3D printer, to be lasercut.
[16:39:54] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> you will get faster
[16:40:13] <ScribbleJ> I swear to god, I designed the whole fucking thing, I was down to the last part, and only then did I realize it's impossible to assemble because a bolthead is inbetween two parts that need to be attached to each other.
[16:40:37] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> I always assemble as i design
[16:40:55] <archivist> you need that reality to teach you about design :)
[16:40:59] <ScribbleJ> I'm using primitive tools that don't have utilities for things like that.
[16:41:35] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> like a chisel?
[16:41:49] <archivist> I love Solidworks for assemblies and movements
[16:42:03] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> archivist: i would agree 100%
[16:42:08] <L84Supper> ^^ yes, it's easy in Solidworks
[16:42:09] <ScribbleJ> hahah, I thought you meant virtually, WillenCMD_AT_Wor. I'm definitely not confident enough in a design of mine to assemble it in actuality as I go.
[16:42:45] <L84Supper> NX is even better but costs more
[16:42:45] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> I sometimes don't even think or include bolts/welds untill a 3d model is assembled
[16:43:30] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i through a rough machine design together for the last customer in 6 hours, a complete cnc diamond cut off saw
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[16:44:06] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> enclosure, and all, plus i put coolant in it and rendered photo-realistic images for the pitch
[16:44:17] <L84Supper> for some reason the ID people love ProE for the enclosures
[16:45:03] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> then when i got the job, i went back and said "okay now time to make it work, and preform the stress analysis on it"
[16:45:50] <ScribbleJ> ID?
[16:46:09] <L84Supper> ID = Industrial Design
[16:46:38] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> On friday i went to check on the progress of the parts being made, and as i looked at what they had assembled i said "how coming your missing a bunch of wholes in places?"
[16:46:58] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> holes*
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[16:48:16] <L84Supper> I've had Solidworks drop holes for fasteners when exporting to STL
[16:49:07] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> he said they weren't on the drawing, i was pissed at first at my self thinking... how did i miss that when you just drag the model into a drawing sheet.... well i started digging through the folder, and low and behold there they where
[16:49:33] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i think he got so excited to put it together, that he started missing steps
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[16:50:15] <ScribbleJ> haa
[16:50:50] <L84Supper> WillenCMD_AT_Wor, what do you use for photo rendering with Solidworks?
[16:51:41] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> l84supper: i use photoview 360
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[17:04:43] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
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[17:08:27] <tjb1> What is R.S on a power supply?
[17:08:30] <tjb1> remote start?
[17:10:04] <pcw_home> reset?
[17:10:20] <jdh> .uk electronics place?
[17:11:09] <jdh> resonant switching? Radio Shack?
[17:13:19] <tjb1> remote sense...
[17:14:23] <tjb1> ubuntu wont let me into the damn bios setup now
[17:14:57] <jdh> how does ubuntu have anything to do with the bios setup?
[17:15:21] <tjb1> i change it to epp mode, then it errored out trying to start it and now I cant get into bios anymore
[17:17:15] <L84Supper> cold boot --> BIOS
[17:18:15] <tjb1> it wont let me into setup or boot order when starting the computer now
[17:19:12] <L84Supper> what happens if you shutdown and turn off the PC, then power-on?
[17:19:25] <jdh> there is a program on the wiki, showport.c that will let you set parport modes from the commandline.
[17:19:32] <tjb1> it starts up and ignores any keyboard input
[17:19:43] <L84Supper> tjb1, the OS isn't even running yet
[17:19:43] <jdh> if you just want to play with modes
[17:19:57] <jdh> it's not unbuntu doing that, it is the bios.
[17:20:15] <L84Supper> ahh the fun of BIOS, you might have to reset the CMOS with a jumper to clear the settings ow
[17:20:32] <L84Supper> ow/now
[17:21:29] <tjb1> well took the battery off the motherboard and removed 2 sticks of ram
[17:21:36] <tjb1> now its doing automatic ide config
[17:21:38] <jdh> ram doesn't matter
[17:21:56] <tjb1> im in the bios now...
[17:22:02] <jdh> is there a bios setting for USB Legacy support?
[17:23:34] <L84Supper> removing the battery for a short time will not always clear CMOS, a schottky diode in series to the chipset with a cap will hold a charge for a while
[17:24:08] <jdh> there's usually a jumper to drain the cap
[17:24:26] <L84Supper> the jumper will open the connection from the battery and also short the cap to ground
[17:24:58] <tjb1> where is this jumper located
[17:25:09] <jdh> usually near the battery
[17:26:01] <tjb1> im in bios now
[17:26:05] <tjb1> removing battery fixedi t
[17:27:11] <jdh> leave 'enable legacy kb support' turned on
[17:27:18] <L84Supper> \0/
[17:27:23] <IchGuckLive> what board is that
[17:27:42] <tjb1> jumper at the bottom that says
[17:27:46] <tjb1> CLR Password and MMODE
[17:29:07] <tjb1> IchGuckLive: https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=e210882
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[17:35:55] <IchGuckLive> BNice
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[17:44:12] <tjb1> ok g540 hooked up to power supply and computer
[17:45:30] <tjb1> Will the G540 be in the machine configurations or just ignore that for now?
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[17:48:08] <jthornton> sample configurations or stepconf wizard?
[17:48:56] <tjb1> just started linuxcnc and it brought me to configuration selector
[17:49:25] <jthornton> I don't think there is a sample config for the G540
[17:49:59] <jthornton> you can make one with the stepconf wizard
[17:50:56] <tjb1> alright
[17:51:00] <tjb1> starting it up now
[17:51:35] <tjb1> there is a driver type for g540
[17:53:03] <tjb1> This jitter test, do I input the base thread max jitter?
[17:53:53] <L84Supper> tjb1, looks like this might be the manual for that board http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4700/sm/index.htm
[17:54:23] <L84Supper> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4700/sm/techov.htm#wp1052362
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[17:59:03] <tjb1> thansk L84Supper
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[18:00:41] <tjb1> where do I slave an axis?
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[18:07:11] <jdh> we don't call it "slave", too many people found the term offensive.
[18:07:39] <Tom_itx> pfft
[18:09:44] <tjb1> I just changed hal so that it sent xstep and xdir to the astep and adir pins
[18:09:47] <tjb1> that correct?
[18:10:30] <jdh> does that work?
[18:10:40] <tjb1> it does but the A doesnt update on the DRO
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[18:11:10] <jdh> doesn't gantrykins do something like that?
[18:12:31] <tjb1> I read that but it requires homing x and a
[18:12:35] <tjb1> I want to home only X
[18:12:47] <tjb1> I think homing them together would screw it up and rack the gantry
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[18:24:47] <Connor> Dang it... everyone wants to ship a freaking power resistor via UPS
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[18:25:54] <tjb1> UPS > USPS
[18:26:10] <tjb1> unless you want saturday shipping
[18:26:10] <jdh> for price
[18:26:18] <Jymmm> You mean Oooooooooops
[18:26:54] <Jymmm> http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/international-economy/17152d1258155078-ups-vs-fedex-battle-heavyweights-fed-ex-ups-crash.jpg
[18:27:02] <jdh> my two pieces of steel lost in shipping were UPS, but I blame morons in packaging at amazon
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[18:36:48] <archivist> jdh someone I know does that job, they get him to do upto 60 parcels an hour, dunno how anyone can make sure all parcels are perfect at that rate
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[18:39:33] <jdh> the 2nd one had a 36" long 20lb steel rod held in a 38" tube with a single layer of paper tape.
[18:46:16] <archivist> looks like they cannot keep workers by the number of open jobs http://www.indeed.co.uk/Amazon-jobs-in-Rugeley
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[18:54:35] <Connor> Well.. I need to see about finding a local dealer for this part.. I be danged if I'm going to pay that much in shipping..
[18:55:12] <jdh> whatcha buying?
[18:55:47] <Connor> I'm just needing a .006Ohm power resistor for the new motor controller.
[18:56:03] <Connor> but, I'm not going to pay $13.00 shipping for a $1.88 part
[18:56:18] <jdh> where did you get the controller?
[18:56:25] <Connor> Ebay
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[18:56:46] <jdh> it's for current sense?
[18:57:07] <Connor> They call it Plug-In Horsepower resistor.
[18:58:57] <ink> haha
[18:59:02] <ink> nice name, marketing
[18:59:06] <ink> sounds like a current sense resistor
[18:59:22] <Connor> It is. It's just mounted on a PCB with 2 pins.
[18:59:28] <ink> heh ah
[18:59:48] <ink> I wonder if anybody sells them on ebay also? or maybe mouser.com (no extra fee for small orders)
[19:00:08] <Connor> They do. But, $10.00 ship+handling if you don't buy it with a controller.
[19:00:17] <ink> lame
[19:00:22] <ink> I meant somebody else
[19:00:27] <Connor> http://www.galco.com/buy/KB-Electronics/RESISTOR006OHMS
[19:00:33] <Jymmm> Connor: Nichrome wire and tw o crimp-ons =)
[19:00:34] <Connor> I looked.. didn't find anyone.
[19:00:37] <Jymmm> two
[19:01:06] <Connor> I found local company that deals with the product. going to see if they have one in stock.
[19:01:54] <jdh> http://www.ebay.com/itm/160371456472
[19:01:56] <Jymmm> I made a 0.010ohm current shunt doing that
[19:02:24] <jdh> $5, free shipping. Can't drive across town for that.
[19:02:29] <jdh> at least, not in my vehicle.
[19:02:50] <Jymmm> 97 available too
[19:03:55] <Jymmm> jdh: Heh, I want to ghetto together an electric cart for short runs around town.
[19:04:43] <jdh> I'm pretty sure you would die quickly doing that here.
[19:04:47] <ink> Jymmm: hahah nice trick
[19:05:22] <Jymmm> jdh: Something that pushes the sidewalk/street legalness
[19:05:24] <Jymmm> ink: =)
[19:05:41] <Jymmm> and does 40mph downhill in a hurricane
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[19:07:49] <jdh> About 13,000 golf cart-related accidents require emergency room visits each year, according to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission.
[19:08:12] <Jymmm> 99% are on the golf course =)
[19:10:36] <jdh> guy I dove with this w/e is an ER RN, said they had a lot of kids hurt falling out of them.
[19:10:56] <pcw_home> Lot of golfers get struck by lighting as well
[19:10:58] <jdh> turn left, and the passenger falls out
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[19:12:15] <jdh> golfers getting struck by lightning is kind of poetic.
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[19:18:22] <Connor> jdh: This controller isn't going in that little G0704 control box..
[19:20:29] <jdh> make a new box!
[19:20:51] <jdh> then you will have more room for the speed controller too.
[19:21:05] <jdh> and a built in E-Stop
[19:21:30] <L84Supper> why a golf cart when you can build one of these? http://www.8020.net/Application-52.htm
[19:21:35] <Connor> Debating on were to put it. *I* could mount it in the cnc-controller box.. but, that means running the DC wire a ways.
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[19:22:02] <jdh> get some big wire
[19:22:03] <ink> lol
[19:22:11] <Jymmm> L84Supper: you know how much those tracks alone cost?!
[19:22:12] <ink> ultimate golf cart
[19:22:25] <jdh> L84: it snowed here a few years ago. I could have used that for about 30 minutes
[19:22:27] <Connor> jdh: I'll have to run a dedicated AC line for it too..
[19:24:18] <L84Supper> Jymmm, it's from the 80-20 catalog, so probably ~$35
[19:24:31] <Jymmm> 00
[19:25:53] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> anyone worked with 510 bronze?
[19:26:30] <Jymmm> L84Supper: yeah, per cm
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[19:32:51] <archivist> WillenCMD_AT_Wor, dunno what that is in our standards but some brasses/bronzes are evil to cut :)
[19:33:02] <archivist> some cut like butter
[19:34:31] <archivist> ah phospher bronze, last I used was very nice to machine
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[19:35:19] <archivist> interesting variations though http://www.meadmetals.com/phosphorbronze.htm
[19:37:28] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> Having some orange peel difficulties
[19:37:45] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> this is aluminum bronze
[19:38:01] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> not as nice as 660 or 640
[19:39:08] <r00t4rd3d> I hope facebook goes bankrupt.
[19:39:53] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:FB
[19:40:13] <r00t4rd3d> I like watching their stock decline.
[19:40:15] <jthornton> they have some of the funniest scam ads on flacebook
[19:40:16] <archivist> according to that site I just linked 510 is not aluminium bronze /me confused
[19:43:24] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> my apoligies
[19:43:36] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> this is what i was told, i looked it up and your right
[19:48:18] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> couldn't i make a DAC component for linux cnc, if you can read pulses from an encoder, couldn't you determine the voltage from lets say a microprocessor by the spacing of the pwm as long as it wasn't over the thread timing
[19:48:56] <archivist> you mean ADC
[19:49:42] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> no pwm is actually digital
[19:49:52] <pcw_home> You can use a V-F converter and the the encoder comp
[19:51:00] <pcw_home> (the velocity pin)
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[19:55:32] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> thanks, i was just wondering
[19:55:39] <L84Supper> Jymmm, http://www.fastline.com/v100/Caterpillar-16-Tracks-MOODIE-IMPLEMENT-COMPANY-BELGRADE-MT-equipment-detail-7b5bc430-9c99-4a42-ad76-8176006510de.aspx only $6900 and Low MIles!
[19:56:04] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i guess the resolution is limited to the thread timing, so it wouldn't be a good way of communication
[19:56:52] <L84Supper> http://www.fastline.com/v100/Loegering-VTS-60-Swiderski-Equipment-Inc-MOSINEE-WI-equipment-detail-9666d92a-3d98-4ffc-9478-d3917f9b91e8.aspx even better! and with wheels
[19:57:00] <Connor> Good God.. Kluber Isoflex NBU-15 is expensive.. especially when I only need 1.5cc's of it..
[19:57:08] <Jymmm> L84Supper: lol
[19:57:18] <Connor> 50 gram tube $22.45 + shipping.
[19:57:47] <jdh> wonder how much better it is than trailer bearing grease.
[19:57:48] <pcw_home> encoder velocity calculation res is limited by base thread resolution
[19:58:14] <Connor> http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/kluber-isoflex-grease-available-locally-146101/
[19:58:41] <pcw_home> but if you only need a couple Hz bandwidth its OK for 12 bit or so res
[20:00:41] <Connor> jdh: I have everything I need for my spindle upgrade except for a 3.5" ID Alum tube that I probably can get locally.
[20:00:57] <Connor> and the blasted kluber grease.
[20:01:03] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> not bad, seems like an easy way to send commands to a microprocessor, not that im doing that. It was just a thought, something better than standard serial
[20:01:25] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> Damn kluber expense stuff man
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[20:07:02] <jdh> connor: you putting in new bearings also?
[20:07:09] <Connor> jdh: Yea.
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[20:08:03] <jdh> have you seen that guys g0704 thread on the zone? Scraped everything, etc?
[20:08:34] <skorket> Can someone help me understand this document on "MDF Cutting Data"? https://www.onsrud.com/files/pdf/2012%20LMT%20Onsrud%20Production%20Cutting%20Tools%20MDF.pdf . What is the upper left hand data? What are each of the valuse in the table? What is the "Series" column?
[20:08:50] <Connor> jdh: OMG Yea.. I'm not doing that..
[20:09:54] <syyl_> i bet, thats the cutting speed in inch/minute, skorket
[20:10:05] <skorket> ah, ok, sorry, the data in the table is the 'chip load'. I still don't understand what the other stuff is
[20:10:12] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> so i have been programming now for about 3 months in python and a year in C, and i am wondering. Why does everyone just use letter's for variables all the time?
[20:10:23] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> it really makes it hard for someone to go through the porgram
[20:10:26] <skunkworks> lazy
[20:10:31] <skorket> syyl_, ah, so the upper left hand corner is basically the feed rate?
[20:10:34] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i label all my variables what they are actually doing
[20:10:38] <syyl_> no, cutting speed
[20:10:43] <syyl_> surface meter(?)
[20:10:47] <syyl_> dont now the english term
[20:10:57] <syyl_> circumflexe speed of the cutting edge
[20:11:13] <jdh> Willen: I use single letters for loops and short scoped things.
[20:11:14] <skunkworks> the lanquage I started with didn't allow for multi character varables... For I = 1 to 100....
[20:11:38] <jdh> I'm a fan of i,j,k
[20:11:41] <skorket> syyl_, I think we're saying the same thing. "feed rate" == "speed of tool through material"
[20:12:12] <syyl_> it dictates how fast the tool turns
[20:12:25] <syyl_> (or has to turn)
[20:12:42] <skorket> revolutions per minute (RPM)?
[20:12:55] <syyl_> the table seems to be in inches/min
[20:13:03] <syyl_> take the formular at the end of the sheet
[20:13:07] <syyl_> to calculate the rpms
[20:13:45] <syyl_> uhm, stop, that formular is something..strange
[20:14:00] <skorket> but I still don't know what the numbers in the upper left hand table or, nor do I know what the "series" column is supposed to represent
[20:14:29] <syyl_> series might be a specified tool type of that manufacturer
[20:14:39] <skorket> ah, ok
[20:15:59] <syyl_> and that values in the upper table seem to be the cutting speed in inches/min
[20:16:14] <skorket> as in, the speed at which the bit moves through the material?
[20:16:47] <syyl_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds#Cutting_speed
[20:17:15] <syyl_> ah, surface feet/min is the imperial unit for it..
[20:17:58] <skorket> yeah, I believe this is synonymous with "feed rate"
[20:18:02] <syyl_> no
[20:18:04] <jdh> surface furlongs/fort-night was too confusing
[20:18:06] <syyl_> absolutely not
[20:18:25] <syyl_> feed rate is rpm * chipload per tooth +
[20:18:34] <syyl_> feed rate is rpm * chipload per tooth * number of tooth
[20:19:24] <syyl_> the cutting speed is only there, that you will not burn up your tool running it with to low/high rpm
[20:21:07] <skorket> ah, my apologies, I thought the feed rate was something different. In grbl you can set the feed rate and seek rate. I thought the feed rate in that context was the speed at which the bit moves through the material. Maybe I misunderstood what was happening with grbl or maybe they just use the name in error
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[20:23:24] <Connor> jdh: I got terrible finish on my motor mount and the motor mount base..
[20:23:28] <Connor> Not sure what's going on..
[20:23:42] <jdh> chatter?
[20:23:57] <Connor> I don't know.. maybe.. it was a profile..
[20:24:09] <jdh> climb or conventional?
[20:24:32] <Connor> funny thing is, the scrape looked better than the part.. it most places.
[20:24:39] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> My philosophy is multiply the suggested feed by 3
[20:25:04] <Connor> conventional
[20:25:08] <jdh> you cut it backwards
[20:25:11] <Connor> but, does that matter on a profile.
[20:25:22] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> its only noise, i don't have all day to wait around for it to finish machining, if the tool chips back the feed off 10%
[20:25:42] <jdh> if the tool chips, I have to wait a week for a new cheap chinese tool :)
[20:26:19] <Connor> To be honest, I had one part cut CW and the other CCW.. both turned out equally as bad.
[20:26:40] <Connor> 1/4 HSS 2-flute, 2500 RPM 12-14 IPM
[20:26:43] <jdh> got a pic?
[20:26:46] <Connor> 6061-T6
[20:26:57] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> climb is the preferred method of milling in a CNC machine
[20:27:13] <Connor> On some of the arcs were I couldn't sand it down
[20:27:20] <Connor> I've not taken any pictures yet.
[20:27:28] <Connor> .075" DOC
[20:27:36] <jdh> in a profile cut, wouldn't one side always be climb, the other conventional?
[20:27:51] <Connor> jdh: Exactly. which is what doesn't make sense..
[20:28:12] <Connor> I'm think I may have a few things going on.. Not enough RPM. Maybe dull cutter..
[20:28:26] <Connor> May have not had the material supported well enough...
[20:29:11] <Connor> also, first time using the TTS holders.
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[20:31:13] <jdh> did it get worse at the x & y min/max?
[20:31:29] <jdh> not min/max, but direction changes
[20:33:34] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> 2500 rpm seems kinda slow
[20:34:13] <jdh> how did it sound? any lube?
[20:34:32] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> conner: i figure it up at a 3,667rpm
[20:35:12] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> at 11 IPM
[20:35:36] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> Im milling 6061 as we speak :)
[20:36:21] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> well i shouldn't say "I", technically im sitting here on the computer, the milling machine is milling as we speak:)
[20:37:52] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i have a 2 flute .25 endmill in there, its carbide(normally i steer away from carbide and aluminum, but it was all we had and its a one off part)
[20:38:05] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> carbide for aluminum*
[20:39:34] <Tom_itx> carbide works good on aluminum
[20:40:31] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> yes but why waste the money, when HSS does plenty good
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[20:40:49] <Tom_itx> you can run it faster
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[20:44:31] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> im taking a 3/4 2 flute endmill through this piece of aluminum right now, .75 deep profile cutting it out basically at 2000rpm and 12 IPM
[20:44:51] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> one pass
[20:45:11] <ink> nice
[20:45:24] * ink just got back from burningman... saw sooo much awesome CNC'd plywood stuff out there
[20:45:32] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i would be hesitant to do that with a carbide end mill, just for the sheer fact a .75 carbide endmill is about $140.00
[20:45:34] * ink needs to get access to a cutter for that stuff
[20:45:41] <ink> or find a shop that will run jobs for me or smth
[20:46:07] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> a double ended HSS endmill $36.00
[20:46:11] <r00t4rd3d> ill run jobs for you
[20:46:15] <Connor> jdh: Sounded fine. I tried it dry, WD-40 and some other cutting oil I had.
[20:48:08] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i love when people come running over when i cut through a piece of 1018 3/4 thick steel in one pass with a .5 insert end mill saying "that doesn't sound good", my response its only noise
[20:49:19] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> ink: I could quote you on some machining if needed
[20:50:23] <ink> I don't suppose you're in the SF bay area? shipping large sheets of plywood around could get expensive
[20:50:44] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> True
[20:51:05] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> build a router :)
[20:51:10] <ink> I really should :)
[20:51:19] <ink> gotta stop slacking and get on that
[20:51:51] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> nothing beats, thinking something up and being able to actually make it
[20:52:18] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> i take that back, im sure there are things that beat that i can think of a few
[20:52:26] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> but its still cool
[20:52:44] <r00t4rd3d> i like starting with a blank white page in PaintShop Pro and it ends up on wood.
[20:53:01] <ink> WillenCMD_AT_Wor: totally :)
[20:53:31] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> are you sure your not getting wood?
[20:54:58] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> <--- hates grocery shopping
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[20:56:28] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> Why are there still grocery stores any way? take a large building, cut out half the employee's, build a website, people pick out groceries online, purchase and are given a time for available pick up. Pull up and load them into your car
[20:58:00] <WillenCMD_AT_Wor> track there common purchases and hell before you know it, you only have to pick out the few misc seasonal or on sale items your list is already there
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[21:18:31] <pcw_home> Yeah before the dot bomb that was the theory (Peapod.com?)
[21:21:58] <pcw_home> I remember 100s (maybe 1000's) of Peapod.com trucks being auctioned off after da bomb
[21:24:37] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:22:13] <Connor> How much play should their be in a AC bearing ? (B rating)
[22:22:52] <Connor> I got a 7007B and 7005B from VBX.. The 7007B feels fine.. the 7005B not so much..
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[23:02:46] <r00t4rd3d> yay, no easy day on the bay
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[23:13:04] <guest45674> hi
[23:13:22] <guest45674> quick question (hopefully)
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[23:14:36] <guest45674> trying to set up user defined m codes to open and close my collet closer. i set up the execuable file, seems to be correct. however, the pins to not change when i try the m100 and m101 in mdi
[23:15:06] <guest45674> the pins used to work fine when i had a pyvcp button hooked up
[23:16:11] <guest45674> all examples i found are for parport setups, is there anything different for hosmot2 other than changing the pin to the 5i20 gpio pin?
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[23:19:38] <r00t4rd3d> If anyone wants to read No Easy Day, pm.
[23:19:39] <guest45674t> sorry got booted
[23:19:54] <guest45674t> did anyone answer while i was gone?
[23:19:57] <r00t4rd3d> nope
[23:19:58] <jdh> nope.
[23:20:21] <jdh> if you run the script by hand, does it do anything?
[23:20:52] <jdh> run linuxcnc from the command line and look for errors? check dmesg for oddities?
[23:21:03] <guest45674t> im not very familiar with running scripts
[23:21:48] <jdh> where did you save them?
[23:22:49] <jdh> start linuxcnc however you normally do. open up a terminal window, type /path/to/scripts/scriptname
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[23:23:03] <jdh> or be reset by peer
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[23:23:56] <guest45674t> the nc files folder
[23:23:56] <jdh> start linuxcnc however you normally do. open up a terminal window, type /path/to/scripts/scriptname
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[23:24:16] <guest45674t> ok
[23:25:12] <guest45674t> no such file or directory
[23:26:06] <jdh> you did type the actual path, not what I typed?
[23:27:18] <guest45674t> told you i dont know anything about scripts lol
[23:27:49] <guest45674t> hold on ill try it again
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[23:38:59] <guest45674t> stupid battery....
[23:40:02] <guest45674t> http://pastebin.com/zWxigENf
[23:40:13] <guest45674t> there's one of the files
[23:40:31] <guest45674t> does it have to be saved as a particular extension?
[23:40:54] <guest45674t> i have it checked as an execuable in the properties
[23:41:08] <jdh> no, but I think you need the actual pin names
[23:41:18] <jdh> or, you need to source the ini file in the script.
[23:42:25] <jdh> try hm2_5i20.0.gpio.069.out or whatever your actual pin name is
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[23:42:33] <jdh> or, flake out again.
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[23:43:56] <guest45674t> let me see if i can change it
[23:44:20] <guest45674t> didnt think of that... couldnt find any examples with the 5i20, only parport
[23:45:11] <JT-Shop> guest45674t: I use a 5i20 to open and close my collet
[23:45:27] <jdh> via mcode script, or ladder?
[23:45:37] <JT-Shop> m100 m101
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[23:46:31] <guest45674t> i got it!
[23:46:41] <guest45674t> you were right jdh
[23:46:54] <guest45674t> thanks!
[23:46:58] <jdh> groovy.
[23:47:43] <guest45674t> now i just need to figure out how to integrate it with my pyvcp buttons
[23:47:51] <guest45674t> so i can manually open and close it too
[23:47:52] <JT-Shop> use or
[23:47:58] <JT-Shop> it's what I do
[23:48:32] <JT-Shop> net collet-open-btn or2.3.in0 <= hm2_5i20.0.gpio.027.in_not
[23:48:35] <guest45674t> the m codes override the button?
[23:49:12] <JT-Shop> I use or iirc looking
[23:49:25] <jdh> My labor day results -> https://picasaweb.google.com/112430417093824344570/Diving#5784471929766227186
[23:49:58] <JT-Shop> #!/bin/sh
[23:49:59] <JT-Shop> # open the collet closer
[23:49:59] <JT-Shop> eval halcmd setp or2.3.in1 1
[23:49:59] <JT-Shop> sleep 0.25
[23:49:59] <JT-Shop> eval halcmd setp or2.3.in1 0
[23:50:01] <JT-Shop> sleep 0.5
[23:50:03] <JT-Shop> exit 0
[23:50:06] <JT-Shop> my M100
[23:51:02] <JT-Shop> see how it works?
[23:51:07] <jdh> why the eval?
[23:51:21] <JT-Shop> don't remember
[23:51:29] <JT-Shop> but it works
[23:51:48] <guest45674t> got it, i'll play with it after i run these parts, thanks!
[23:51:55] <JT-Shop> np
[23:52:02] <Tom_itx> workin late?
[23:52:19] <JT-Shop> me?
[23:52:27] <Tom_itx> yeah
[23:52:44] <JT-Shop> tracing wires on the BP for the next phase of the conversion
[23:52:54] <Tom_itx> ahh yeah
[23:53:25] <JT-Shop> cut the wires from the encoders so it's Katy bar the door now
[23:54:58] <JT-Shop> thinking at this point of ditching the Anilam relay board... to complicated to cypher
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[23:59:22] <jp__> Anyone familiar with monarch VMC's