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[00:00:00] <jp__> awesome package beats wonderware and rockwell hands down
[00:00:51] <JT-Shop> wonderware is a PIA the little I've been exposed to it
[00:00:53] <jp__> 10K gets you unlimited screens tags devices
[00:01:20] <jp__> server based thru java webstart
[00:01:40] <jp__> no client software needed except java
[00:02:04] <jdh> hmm... I despise java and pretty much anythign web based :)
[00:02:21] <jp__> I despise rockwell vapor ware
[00:02:52] <jp__> even though im an AB guy at heart
[00:03:33] <JT-Shop> AB has some cool stuff but the price is crazy
[00:04:37] <jp__> just tell you ab rep it's a big job and i need 3 of them and ask for "special pricing"
[00:05:12] <JT-Shop> for stand alone I prefer Panasonic Sigma
[00:05:47] <jdh> what all does Ignition talk too? I don't see any IO server stuuf
[00:05:48] <jp__> the K300's are pretty neat and cheap
[00:06:06] <jp__> Jdh: anything
[00:06:14] <jp__> OPC
[00:07:00] <jp__> they have drivers for most plc via opc
[00:07:20] <jdh> We currently have drivers for the Allen-Bradley family of PLCs. More drivers will be coming soon.
[00:07:22] <jp__> and just about every DB as well
[00:07:46] <jp__> it also runs on linux
[00:08:01] <jp__> thats pretty cool
[00:08:08] <jdh> no GE drivers
[00:08:11] <jp__> ye
[00:08:16] <jp__> yes
[00:09:03] <jp__> they use ther own OPC-UA server and have a ton of drivers
[00:10:35] <jp__> I was skeptical at first being a big rockwell guy but once i tried it out i have never looked back
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[00:12:29] <jdh> I see no drivers for GE PLCs
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[00:15:08] <jp__> im sure they do i can check again at work tomorrow
[00:22:54] <jp__> jdh: No they don't the use kepware drivers or other 3rd party opc drivers
[00:23:04] <jp__> sorry my mistake
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[00:23:09] <joe9> anyone here know how the code in axis.py works?
[00:23:26] <joe9> this is the code i added to axis.py
http://codepad.org/1kDtzFCe
[00:23:30] <joe9> error:
http://codepad.org/p4hiR0ic
[00:23:37] <joe9> this line is the problem: commands.clear_offset("2")
[00:23:46] <joe9> I want to call the clear_offset with 2 as tha parameter, but, I am not able to figure out how.
[00:23:53] <jdh> newer GE's can do modbus tcp, but not the moderatly older ones.
[00:24:45] <jdh> joe9: no clue what you want to do, but are you sure that modifying axis is the way to go about it?
[00:25:04] <joe9> jdh, in this scenario, it seems to be.
[00:25:38] <joe9> i have researched it enough. I want to clear the G55 offset when any axis is unhomed.
[00:25:56] <joe9> jdh, i think i have it all working but for this line.
[00:26:03] <joe9> commands.clear_offset("2")
[00:26:09] <joe9> not sure how to call that line.
[00:26:30] <joe9> jdh: do you have any experience with the axis.py stuff?
[00:26:35] <jdh> nope.
[00:26:58] <jdh> I do have a lot of experience in trying to solve problems the hard way though.
[00:27:32] <joe9> jdh, it is not that hard. just 10-15 lines of python code.
[00:27:35] <joe9> mostly simple stuff.
[00:27:46] <joe9> code:
http://codepad.org/QoC4hIRq
[00:27:57] <joe9> but, I am missing something simple.
[00:28:03] <joe9> just on that one line.
[00:29:36] <jdh> do you un-home often?
[00:29:50] <jp__> wher is this code? File wise
[00:30:20] <joe9> jp__: in axis.py
[00:30:33] <joe9> ./src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py
[00:30:52] <joe9> jdh, no, just on restart.
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[00:34:24] <jdh> so, you don't home at restart?
[00:34:43] <joe9> I do home at restart, as part of that process I want it to clear G55
[00:34:44] <jdh> or you just want to reset g55 at start?
[00:36:12] <jdh> put a G10 L2 P2 x0 y0 z0 in?
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[01:45:23] <r00t4rd3d> Yaba Daba Do!
[01:46:41] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/1EMew.jpg
[01:50:31] <r00t4rd3d> http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=bf58dd20cc26a9471236717bc335c9fe&prevstart=0
[02:03:05] <r00t4rd3d> i wanna make that
[02:03:11] <r00t4rd3d> but no download link :(
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[03:01:52] <JP_w700> woo hoo got python and glade working on windows!!
[03:03:21] <JP_w700> jthornton: just loaded up your tutorial #5 in eclipse and it worked just fine.
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[03:21:44] <r00t4rd3d> i wouldnt be telling anyone that
[03:22:08] <r00t4rd3d> jt has been in bed for probably 4 hours now
[03:22:46] <jp__> he will read it in the morn
[03:24:53] <jp__> i put it on widows so i can play with it on any pc i have
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[04:06:45] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/37991/transport.html
[04:06:47] <r00t4rd3d> holy crap
[04:06:59] <r00t4rd3d> gta 5
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[07:01:17] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[07:44:30] <PhoenixMage> Hi all, has anyone had any success using hsmxpress with linuxcnc? If so what post processor was used? There is one called Enhanced Machine Controller but from what I have read it doesnt work properly?
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[08:46:13] <awallin> PhoenixMage: is hsmxpress some addon for solidworks? not many can afford those.. if the posts are human-readable and editable it shouldn't be too hard to fix things to work with linuxcnc
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[09:22:47] <MattyMatt> hi all, is this slot milling func worth putting on the wiki?
http://pastebin.com/L0DYfg1Y
[09:26:29] <MattyMatt> and has somebody already written one which has different radius at each end?
[09:29:51] <MattyMatt> and also, would G64 with this be a good idea to speed the transitions between the straights and the arcs?
[09:47:02] <MattyMatt> here's a working example in use
http://pastebin.com/a85mpAki
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[11:03:20] <jthornton> MattyMatt, anyone can add to the wiki
[11:04:34] <jthornton> good practice is to have a preamble at the start of your G code like shown here
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/gen01.html
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[11:59:36] <r00t4rd3d> "I hate tutorials written or stolen solely for profit!"
[11:59:40] <r00t4rd3d> that is bad wording
[12:00:00] <jthornton> change it
[12:00:05] <r00t4rd3d> ok
[12:01:10] <r00t4rd3d> ill just delete the whole sentence, makes you look petty.
[12:02:41] <jthornton> perhaps it does
[12:05:15] <jthornton> I guess it is just one of those annoying things for me to click on a tutorial and find more ads than tutorial
[12:05:35] <archivist> I have a similar line on my website, someone pointed out a google scan is done for googles profit! except I do need google!
[12:05:47] <r00t4rd3d> stay off instructables and you will be fine
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[12:12:37] <r00t4rd3d> man I got to replace a ass load of shit pipe today
[12:12:58] <r00t4rd3d> shitty work
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[12:14:50] <r00t4rd3d> someone must have used glue that was frozen at one time and just about all the connections are leaking
[12:16:18] <archivist> get the slope right :)
[12:16:51] <r00t4rd3d> i dont have to mess with that, just basically cut out all the leakers and replace them
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[12:19:36] <r00t4rd3d> after i stack 2 cords of wood
[12:19:49] <r00t4rd3d> im the town mexican
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[13:41:32] <PhoenixMage> awallin: Sorry for the really late reply. Yes it is in Solidworks but I have no idea how to fix the g-code. I am new to all this
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[13:57:25] <jdh> what's wrong with the code?
[14:07:33] <PhoenixMage> jdh: I have no idea it was something I read on here actually that hsmworks spits out bad code for linuxcnc
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[15:36:38] <L84Supper> anyone know how mach3 systems handle the problems that windoze generally has with it's self destructive/obsolescence?
[15:37:47] <jdh> run nothign but mach3 and never let windows update run?
[15:38:03] <L84Supper> we heavily modify the registry and turn off all unused services just for gaming
[15:38:13] <Jymmm> L84Supper: Ask that again, this time without the animosity
[15:38:30] <jdh> what animosity.
[15:38:41] <L84Supper> no animosity, just experience and facts
[15:39:28] <Jymmm> then rephrase the question
[15:39:34] <L84Supper> is there a mach3 howto for modifying the registry?
[15:40:05] <L84Supper> or a set of recommended tweaks?
[15:40:16] <jdh> why rephrase it? It looks like a real and accurate assessment.
[15:40:59] <Jymmm> If you want an answer, rephrase the question
[15:41:30] <L84Supper> Jymmm, why are you so controlling?
[15:41:49] <jdh> do you disagree that windows generally self-destructs over time?
[15:42:19] * cpresser does
[15:42:21] <Jymmm> I need specifics to give a valid answer.
[15:42:26] <cpresser> the only thing destructing windows is the user
[15:42:47] <Jymmm> I've been doing this shit far too long to "generalize" that somethign is fubared
[15:44:03] <L84Supper> I agree, windows doesn't self destruct if you don't use it
[15:44:10] <jdh> heh
[15:44:27] <jdh> and if you do use it, and install random shit, like normal people do, it ages badly.
[15:44:48] <Jymmm> Yes, it actually can. But there are ways around that. But again, rephrase the question if you want a legit answer.
[15:45:10] <jdh> right, without whatever jymmm perceives as animosity.
[15:45:10] <L84Supper> Jymmm, no thanks
[15:45:24] <Jymmm> God luck then.
[15:45:38] <Jymmm> good
[15:45:53] <L84Supper> let go
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[16:58:35] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[17:47:41] <MattyMatt> L84Supper does mach3 work on later versions of windows? I thought it was happiest with XP
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[17:53:07] <IchGuckLive> MattyMatt: the new version mach4 does
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[17:58:01] <jdh> does mach4 exist?
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[17:59:51] <tjb1> Ordered rack and about to order the steppers, controller and other parts :D
[18:00:18] <MattyMatt> making a flatbed?
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[18:04:59] <tjb1> plasma
[18:05:20] <tjb1> Told you this in reprap didn't I ? :P
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[18:35:20] <TekniQue> I have a PDF file with a logo, I want to trace the outlines of the logo, any ideas how?
[18:36:40] <jdh> there are raster to vector programs. Dunno if they are any good
[18:37:02] <TekniQue> this is a vector
[18:37:19] <TekniQue> but I want to create a g-code engraving the outlines of it
[18:38:36] <jdh> image2gcode, fengrave maybe (might have to convert first), some CAMs can import pdfs
[18:42:25] <TekniQue> actually I figured out a way to do it in cambam
[18:42:43] <TekniQue> although it wasnt a pretty way
[18:42:48] <TekniQue> it does the job
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[18:43:16] <jdh> cool
[18:50:05] <jdh> does cambam open/import/wtf pdf?
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[19:47:38] <TekniQue> jdh: no, I fudged it with a bitmap
[19:47:44] <TekniQue> imported that into a height map
[19:47:57] <TekniQue> then used the slicing tool to convert the height map into polylines
[19:48:15] <TekniQue> like I said, it wasn't a good way
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[19:48:26] <TekniQue> but it worked albeit it produced horrendous g-code
[19:48:51] <TekniQue> thousands of lines
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[20:12:58] <uw> is there a mach3 for linux?
[20:14:11] <syyl> yeah!
[20:14:12] <jdh> no, but there is a LinuxCNC
[20:14:17] <syyl> its calles "linuxcnc"
[20:14:33] <archivist> use it under wine!
[20:14:44] <syyl> that might get interesting ;)
[20:15:03] <syyl> or run a virtual machine with windows in it..
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[20:15:21] <uw> yea i guess my problem isnt linuxcnc
[20:15:23] <archivist> methinks one needs to be under the influence of wine to use mach3
[20:15:30] <uw> is the gcode generator
[20:15:41] <uw> pycam
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[21:00:42] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[21:27:17] <tjb1> Does anyone use GWizard G code editor?
[21:30:39] <JT-Shop> never heard of it... what does it do?
[21:30:54] <JT-Shop> I use Gedit G code editor
[21:32:26] <tjb1> Well I'm using it to type gcode, was hoping it was like mcx editor with color coding but its not
[21:32:49] <tjb1> It also simulates it, but I can't do much because I haven't been authorized yet...
[21:33:16] <JT-Shop> got a link?
[21:34:49] <tjb1> http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCGWizardE.html
[21:35:16] <tjb1> Is edit part of linuxcnc?
[21:35:18] <tjb1> gedit
[21:35:57] <JT-Shop> no it is a linux app that is included with Ubuntu
[21:36:40] <tjb1> Oh just a text editor?
[21:37:25] <tjb1> I can't slow my mouse down enough in Linuxcnc...
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[21:52:10] <JT-Shop> that one looks like a time sink
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[21:52:26] <tjb1> Whys that?
[21:53:21] <JT-Shop> too busy for just writing g code when I can load it in LinuxCNC and see the real backplot
[21:53:29] <tjb1> http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/256210_4208361123276_764787068_o.jpg
[21:53:35] <tjb1> back plot is working fine for me?
[21:54:26] <JT-Shop> are you loading a 3-D part then generating the g code from that?
[21:55:25] <tjb1> hand coding from prints
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[21:56:43] <tjb1> this class requires us to hand code
[22:00:04] <JT-Shop> that's good practice to hand code and often faster than CAM
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[22:04:08] <MattyMatt> I find it about the same speed, and the finished code is better, using iteration and arcs etc
[22:04:33] <MattyMatt> my generated gcode is just a huge list of G1 moves
[22:05:03] <tjb1> I was pretty fast with master cam, haven't used it in a while though
[22:05:13] <tjb1> Haven't hand coded in 2-3 years so its a little difficult
[22:06:04] <MattyMatt> has anyone done a higher level NC language with named funcs & variables? gcode can do most things but the syntax is fugly
[22:07:24] <MattyMatt> something that preprocesses to gcode would do nicely
[22:09:47] <MattyMatt> it's like asm, you need a comment on every line
[22:13:02] <Tom_itx> my cam post is like that
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[22:16:38] <tjb1> Is the r plane in g83 absolute or incremental from the z point you start on?
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[22:26:17] <Tom_itx> look at the diagram under G81 to see what it does
[22:27:05] <tjb1> So R0 would be the Z0 point
[22:27:06] <Tom_itx> G83 functions the same as G81 with the addition of retracts during the drilling operation.
[22:29:33] <tjb1> This editor throws an error with G84 telling me spindle isn't on…but the haas manual says to let g84 start the spindle :P
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[22:30:23] <jp_w700> JT-Shop: you around?
[22:30:28] <JT-Shop> yup
[22:30:39] <Tom_itx> evening
[22:30:40] <jp_w700> do you use eclipse as and ide
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[22:30:51] <JT-Shop> what is eclipse?
[22:31:02] <Tom_itx> when the moon hides
[22:31:04] <jp_w700> thats a no then
[22:31:12] <JT-Shop> I use Gedit for my ide
[22:31:25] <JT-Shop> evening Tom_itx
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[22:31:35] <jp_w700> http://www.eclipse.org/
[22:31:55] <tjb1> eclipse is java editor
[22:31:59] <tjb1> and other code editor
[22:32:01] <jp_w700> having a issue working on glade pygtk
[22:32:05] <Tom_itx> oh i tried that once
[22:32:09] <Tom_itx> i hated eclipse
[22:32:22] <jp_w700> eclipse has a python plugin
[22:32:23] <Tom_itx> i think i loaded it for some silly arm project
[22:32:26] <tjb1> Were you coding java?
[22:33:01] <jp_w700> but for some reason it wont "import math"
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[22:33:41] <JT-Shop> python won't? or eclipse won't?
[22:33:49] <jp_w700> python wont
[22:34:01] <jp_w700> version 2.7
[22:34:12] <jp_w700> fails on "cos"
[22:35:06] <JT-Shop> what is the line of code?
[22:39:50] <jp_w700> self.XStart = self.XArcCenterN + (self.ArcRadius * cos(radians(self.ArcStart)))
[22:40:15] <jp_w700> look familliar?
[22:40:41] <jp_w700> http://imagebin.org/225359
[22:41:12] <JT-Shop> yes it does
[22:41:48] <jp_w700> see anything i dont?
[22:41:58] <JT-Shop> math.cos and math.radians
[22:42:15] <JT-Shop> need the math.
[22:46:33] <jp_w700> well that worked! I wonder why import math did not?
[22:46:39] <tjb1> Can you have two m codes on 1 line?
[22:46:51] <jp_w700> not on a fanuc
[22:46:59] <jp_w700> not sure abot linux
[22:47:01] <tjb1> alright thanks
[22:47:05] <tjb1> well this is for haas
[22:47:10] <tjb1> and I didn't think you could
[22:50:58] <tjb1> How does this look? -
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tJqW545r
[22:51:49] <JT-Shop> jp_w700:
http://docs.python.org/library/math.html
[22:53:19] <JT-Shop> math got loaded but you have to use math. for some reason now
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[22:58:47] <jp_w700> Ah thanks
[22:58:59] <jp_w700> Got it working now!!
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[22:59:47] <JT-Shop> Sweet!
[23:00:06] <jp_w700> just need to do a bit of work on drawing the arc
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[23:00:48] <jp_w700> I'll send you the files once i'm done if you want it for your tutorial.
[23:00:55] <JT-Shop> one bite at a time :)
[23:01:26] <JT-Shop> sure, that makes it easy for me if someone else finds all the bugs first
[23:01:45] <jp_w700> no prob you did most of the work anyways
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[23:08:12] <Yoshi47> does linuxcnc 10.04 come with simulator or does it require a seperate build?
[23:08:41] <tjb1> Any programmers here that I can interview that will also let my instructor contact them? :)
[23:09:27] <Yoshi47> what does one have to program in order to be interviewed?
[23:09:40] <Yoshi47> how how would one be contacted?
[23:09:56] <tjb1> cmc programmer and I have no idea
[23:09:58] <tjb1> *cnc
[23:10:32] <Yoshi47> ah, working on that, so I can't help you out, but I am a computer programmer, multiple languages
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[23:11:50] <r00t4rd3d> program in what?
[23:12:04] <JT-Shop> Yoshi47: you can just run a sim configuration
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[23:12:28] <JT-Shop> or
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_Pure_Simulator
[23:12:43] <Yoshi47> ah i see the option
[23:12:45] <Yoshi47> thanks
[23:17:11] <jp_w700> JT-Shop: have you played with the drawing area in gtk?
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[23:34:33] <JT-Shop> nope
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[23:36:01] <jp_w700> Need to figure out how to erase
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[23:39:13] <JT-Shop> you got it to draw?
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[23:45:09] <jp_w700> yep
[23:45:34] <jp_w700> got it working but on the second arc it just overlays on the first
[23:47:30] <tjb1> What r00t4rd3d
[23:47:35] <tjb1> What are you making jp_w700
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[23:49:37] <jp_w700> JT-Shop:
http://imagebin.org/225364
[23:50:48] <JT-Shop> do you know how to compact the labels and entry boxes?
[23:51:25] <jp_w700> yes there some good youtube vids that cover that
[23:53:13] <tjb1> ewwhhh I and J coding :P
[23:56:29] <jp_w700> JT-Shop: Ther are option for expansion and you can force the V&H boxes to a certian sixe if you want.
[23:57:37] <tjb1> What is better for clamping to stepper motor, set screw or clamp-on?
[23:58:21] <jp_w700> setscrew if possible
[23:59:10] <tjb1> http://www.mcmaster.com/#oldham-couplings/=iy9c5j
[23:59:14] <tjb1> Thats what I am looking at
