#emc | Logs for 2011-12-19

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[00:00:08] <jthornton> odd indeed
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[00:04:31] <andypugh> I might have made an eBay error with it, the vendor is taking in terms of pallets and forklifts. The auction title described the printer as a 7300DT, but the spec was for a DX. The DX is on wheels with a 2400 sheet feeder..
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[00:05:21] <A2Sheds> I hope the toner is dark enough or has enough contrast for you
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[00:07:36] <A2Sheds> just FYI, you can use toner from a different laser printer if you find that other models are darker, it just gets a bit messy changing it if your not used to it
[00:07:47] <A2Sheds> you're/your
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[00:47:26] <andypugh> So, I have a 4mm x 30mm dia area of shaft onto which I want to mount a disc.
[00:47:37] <andypugh> The top part here: http://imagebin.org/189264
[00:48:03] <andypugh> The green part is made, and can have metal removed, but none added.
[00:48:23] <andypugh> The disc also supplies end-float control to the brass part.
[00:49:40] <andypugh> Can anyone think of a good way to mount it? I have considered pressing (then I can't dismantle), three half-tapped grub-screws, or threading the bore and screwing it on (but then how to lock it?)
[00:51:19] <jdhNC> d) with a pin
[00:51:32] <andypugh> The half-tapped screws is probably the most functional, but I am not sure how to do that now that it is all made. (press on a ring, drill, tap, remove ring maybe?
[00:51:48] <andypugh> jdhNC: A pin from where?
[00:52:27] <jdhNC> through the inner edge of the disk
[00:52:55] <andypugh> Omitted for clarity are all the other components, there is no access at all from underneath, except perhaps through a hole drilled in the side
[00:53:32] <jdhNC> you don't need much of a pin to keep it from unscrewing do you?
[00:54:15] <andypugh> No. And I guess I could screw it on, then drive a pin into a half-and-half axial hole.
[00:54:32] <jdhNC> or 45'ed in at the edge
[00:55:03] <andypugh> I would ideally like it to be easy to dismantle, and adjustable.
[00:55:11] <jdhNC> or, a horizontal spring loaded pin that fits a notch
[00:55:25] <jdhNC> assuming complicated and difficult is better than simple
[00:56:12] <andypugh> No, simple is good, but I will accept complicated if it ticks all the boxes.
[00:56:57] <andypugh> I keep coming back to threaded with a grub-screw onto the thread, but I hate that.
[00:57:38] <jdhNC> http://i14.tinypic.com/4tkxf5t.jpg
[00:57:42] <jdhNC> middle left
[00:58:18] <andypugh> I bet that was annoying to find?
[00:58:36] <jdhNC> many times
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[00:59:11] <andypugh> The problem is that I have to get the notch in the right place, and I would prefer some adjustability.
[00:59:17] <DaViruz> that looks like a firing pin safety block and an extractor
[00:59:17] <jdhNC> beretta sent me new ones for free
[01:00:13] <andypugh> Ah, gnu parts. One of the few things where people appreciate solid metal, intricately machined.
[01:01:34] <andypugh> You know, I might just press-fit it. It's easy to un-press.
[01:04:42] <andypugh> Or maybe I can taper-tap a grub-screw hole near the threaded bore, and cut a section partly loose so that when the grub screw is tightened it locks the thread>
[01:09:56] <Jymmm> andypugh: I'm not sure what you just said, but it sounds like a clusterfuck of a repair job =)
[01:11:12] <andypugh> Jymmm: http://imagebin.org/189266
[01:11:56] <Jymmm> how thin is that wall you gonna drill/tap?
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[01:12:24] <andypugh> The depth of the section that drilled hole is in is 4mm, that's an M3 hole.
[01:13:36] <Jymmm> What if you cut BOTH ways and have the screw in the middle pushing out on both leafs?
[01:13:58] <Jymmm> ______O______
[01:14:10] <Jymmm> well my ascii art sucks tonight
[01:14:44] <andypugh> I don't have a 3mm saw blade...
[01:15:10] <Jymmm> oh, I yhoughy you were gonna vut on the mill
[01:15:23] <Jymmm> cut
[01:15:29] <Jymmm> thought
[01:16:00] <andypugh> I don't have a 0.5mm milling cutter..
[01:16:15] <Jymmm> you needs some tools =)
[01:16:22] <Jymmm> or tooling
[01:16:35] <andypugh> Miling 0.5 dia x 4mm deep would be a challenge, I think?
[01:17:04] <andypugh> I need a wire spark eroder, clearly.
[01:17:31] <Jymmm> There ya go... you now have justified a nice Christmas Gift for the shop =)
[01:17:51] <andypugh> First I would need a workshop for christmas.
[01:18:04] <andypugh> At the moment it is all in my garage, which is full.
[01:18:06] <Jymmm> one tool at a time makes a workshop
[01:18:44] <andypugh> In my case, I need one brick at a time.
[01:18:53] <Jymmm> if the taper does work, how about upsizing a pin in the hole till it doesn't move?
[01:19:15] <andypugh> I would like a separate workshop, one I can heat. It is below freezing in my garage today.
[01:22:55] <andypugh> Night all.
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[02:56:20] <cory_> Took a couple years off my cnc project, now boss and I own a Kitamura and are thinking about retrofitting it.
[02:56:41] <cory_> And anyone here that reconizes my name thought I probably electrocuted myself ;)
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[03:17:42] <clytle374> Did I get logged in?
[03:18:39] <Tom_itx> yup
[03:19:10] <clytle374> thanks. of course I forgot my passwd for a bit
[03:19:48] <clytle374> Place just slow on Sundays?
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[03:20:14] <Tom_itx> a little
[03:21:04] <clytle374> Looks like big things have happened while I was gone, at least with the mesa cards
[03:21:23] <Tom_itx> they are moving forward yes
[03:24:42] <clytle374> forward is good.
[03:28:25] <clytle374> Anyone recommend servos and amplifiers for a mycenter 2? Not up to date with recent stuff
[03:29:07] <Tom_itx> you may be better off haning around and asking in the morning
[03:29:59] <clytle374> yeah, just anxious at this point. I'll know more what I have to work with tomorrow.
[03:31:57] <clytle374> good night all
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[06:19:03] <CmdrData> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/2742810099.html <--what is this?
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[06:40:10] <automata_> hi
[06:40:24] <automata_> I was looking at the code in emcrsh.cc
[06:40:44] <automata_> and came across the getRelActPos function
[06:42:55] <automata_> That function gets the actual position of the axes and returns a formated string with the coordinates
[06:43:26] <automata_> it also subtracts the applied offsets
[06:43:44] <automata_> However, it seems to subtract the g54 offset twice
[06:43:55] <automata_> anyone know why?
[06:46:36] <automata_> I think it should subtract the g54 offset and the g92 offset...
[06:46:59] <psha[work]> probably bug?
[06:47:09] <psha[work]> check history
[06:47:14] <psha[work]> git blame emcrsh.cc
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[07:12:21] <alex4nder-> re..
[07:12:45] <Tectu> wb?!
[07:29:14] <automata_> the getRelActPos function also does not subtract the g43 tool offset
[07:29:44] <automata_> I think the getRelPos command should account for the g5X offset + g92 offset and G43 offset
[07:36:03] <CmdrData> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/2742810099.html <--- what is this contraption?
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[12:15:08] <automata_> hi
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[14:28:24] <FinboySlick> A2Sheds: I haven't used it for real cuts yet but thanks a bundle for pointing out gwizard.
[14:29:18] <FinboySlick> The speed and feed calculator seems quite good and though I haven't explored that part yet, I read off the site that it has some specifics for dry-cutting.
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[14:51:22] <Jordinar> Hello, is the MESA Motion Control 3C20 Stand alone 100W Single Axis Servo motor controller compatible with EMC2 Use ?
[14:57:04] <awallin> it might be too "high level"..
[15:01:00] <Jordinar> so not recommended?
[15:02:20] <jthornton> there is a list on the forum of all the Mesa hardware and what goes with what
[15:03:14] <Jordinar> i've saved the link of that list a few weeks ago: http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,27/id,1325/lang,english/
[15:03:15] <Jordinar> - It's down now.
[15:04:02] <jthornton> might be an old link
[15:04:04] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=27&id=1325
[15:04:25] <jthornton> we upgraded the web site a short while back
[15:04:53] <jdhNC> could use a little mod_rewrite maybe?
[15:05:20] <Jordinar> ok, thank you.
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[15:20:22] <cncbasher> anyone know if emc has a learn function , or anyone thought of one ?, so i can plan a weld bead or scanning path
[15:20:34] <Jordinar> So no chance to use the 6I68 PCIE daughterboard with EMC2 ?
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[15:29:36] <Jordinar> Mesa writes that 3C20 is "command compatible" with SoftDMC - does that mean that it can be used with EMC2, although it's not listed in the forum compatibility thread directly?
[15:31:15] <cncbasher> jordinar> softdmc is for windows
[15:33:28] <cncbasher> jordinar > what are you looking for in spec ? most of the mesa cards are supported in emc , although the newer 6i68 pcie may be hot of the press and the drivers still to be tested etc
[15:34:53] <cncbasher> jordinar> most emc users use the 5i20 / 5i23 or 7i43 as a base
[15:35:36] <cncbasher> but the newer cards will appear in emc i am sure in due course . if not already
[15:39:08] <Jordinar> it seems that the 5i20 / 5i23 is no longer listed on mesanet.com ?
[15:40:01] <jdhNC> I have a 5i23 here, want one?
[15:40:27] <cncbasher> jordinar> yes they are listed
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[15:40:51] <cncbasher> under anything i/o fpga cards
[15:44:43] <cncbasher> jordinar>what requirements are you looking for , perhaps we can guide you through the maze
[15:45:37] <Jordinar> i'll try to compile the details. can I get back to you again later?
[15:47:32] <cncbasher> yes fine ,theirs plenty of people here willing to help , dont be afraid to ask
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[16:01:08] <cncbasher> john must have coffee on a drip feed , permananty connected to the supplier
[16:04:51] <cncbasher> jordinar> 6i68 is supported in emc by the way
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[16:05:33] <Jordinar> hm, it's not listed here: http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=27&id=1325
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[16:06:03] <cncbasher> jordinar> it's a new board , iv'e just confirmed it
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[16:07:24] <Jordinar> ok, so 6I68 could be a replacement for 5i20 / 5i23 / 7i43, right?
[16:07:35] <cncbasher> yes
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[16:20:28] <IchGucksLive> hi all around the world
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[16:51:17] <pcw_home> 5I25 with 7I76 or 7I77 is also a replacement for 5I20/5I23 etc
[16:51:52] <skunkworks> are you planning on discontinuing any of them?
[16:53:14] <IchGucksLive> pcw_home: are you the manufactur of this mesa cards ?
[16:54:36] <pcw_home> I am the chief bottlewasher their
[16:54:46] <pcw_home> there
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[16:56:05] <IchGucksLive> oh so direct on the well of supply B)
[16:56:09] <pcw_home> skunkworks No not until we cant get parts (we have some design-ins that customers a very reluctant to change)
[17:03:09] <skunkworks> :)
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[17:31:22] <Loetmichel> re @ home
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[18:12:26] <packrat> query: how difficult would it be to make dovetail-like features in aluminum, and how much of a price boost might i expect on that over, say, just tapped holes?
[18:13:06] <packrat> (i know this isnt an EMC question, but fuck, i dunno any other irc locations machinists hang out)
[18:13:37] <IchGucksLive> dovetail on alu wy
[18:13:51] <packrat> easy and quick assembly
[18:14:11] <packrat> for a portable demonstration unit, of sorts
[18:14:17] <IchGucksLive> T-profile with accesous just turn a screw
[18:14:50] <IchGucksLive> packrat: what country are you
[18:14:53] <syyl> but he ascked for a dovetail ;)
[18:14:56] <packrat> US
[18:15:00] <syyl> not very difficult
[18:15:16] <pcw_home> That was clever, our neighbor is having some sewer pipe work and the workers had a backhoe parked in her front yard over the weekend
[18:15:17] <packrat> who said i was a he
[18:15:18] <pcw_home> (which is surrounded by a ~2foot retaining wall which would get damaged if run over so I wondered how they got it in there)
[18:15:19] <syyl> roughing out with a endmill/roughing endmill, finish with a dovetail cutter
[18:15:19] <pcw_home> This morning I saw the driver lift the backhoe tires over the wall with the buckets and gently set it down on the other side!
[18:15:33] <IchGucksLive> syyl: depending on the longness of the parts
[18:15:58] <packrat> lets say 100mm long
[18:16:19] <syyl> i took a guess, packrat ;)
[18:16:28] <packrat> 'sall right
[18:16:30] <packrat> internet and all
[18:16:43] <packrat> anyway, also need an accompanying slot in the face of some mating parts
[18:16:54] <IchGucksLive> i never saw dovetail on a alu construct
[18:17:05] <syyl> but me
[18:17:15] <syyl> on some measuring equipment
[18:17:22] <IchGucksLive> syyl: xou have seen the World B)
[18:17:30] <packrat> t-slot might work, but it would be difficult i think
[18:17:35] <packrat> parts arent that thick
[18:18:08] <IchGucksLive> there a ready made profiles available with 4T-slot on the sites
[18:18:09] <packrat> we're talking maybe 10mm
[18:18:24] <packrat> yeah, i know about 80/20
[18:18:37] <packrat> too bulky and general-purpose for the kind of design im trying for
[18:18:56] <IchGucksLive> 2pinholes and 3 screws got the same effect
[18:19:33] <packrat> eh?
[18:20:28] <IchGucksLive> dovetail is not dismounteble
[18:20:34] <IchGucksLive> on Alu
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[18:20:45] <packrat> dismountable? what?
[18:21:09] <IchGucksLive> the connection will grep forever
[18:21:16] <packrat> im not gluing it
[18:21:35] <packrat> and obviously i can adjust how tight it fits
[18:21:47] <IchGucksLive> B)
[18:21:53] <IchGucksLive> so go for it
[18:22:02] <packrat> yes
[18:22:03] <packrat> hence
[18:22:20] <syyl> you can even buy ready made dovetail slides out of alumium
[18:22:27] <packrat> why my question was directed towards how difficult it would be to manufacture
[18:22:27] <syyl> no problem with the material
[18:22:35] <syyl> if used in right matter
[18:22:39] <IchGucksLive> rough with a cylindric endmil and then take the woodcutter for the shape
[18:22:45] <packrat> and what sort of price differnce that would be vs tapped holes
[18:23:06] <IchGucksLive> about 10 times
[18:23:21] <packrat> :[
[18:23:41] <packrat> im guessing t-slot style would be easier then?
[18:23:48] <IchGucksLive> 4 prisise shapes with at least 5 cutting cycles verses 2 Drills
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[18:24:18] <packrat> *precise
[18:24:26] <IchGucksLive> B)
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[20:39:55] <Turtl3boi> hallo
[20:40:36] <Turtl3boi> how often do end mills need to be replaced when milling 6061 aluminum?
[20:41:39] <alex4nder-> what is the sound of one hand clapping?
[20:42:23] <Mjolinor> half of the sound of two
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[21:02:00] <awallin> Turtl3boi: some companies run production with carbide tools and they last for years with aluminium
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[21:02:19] <awallin> lots of coolant, the right speeds and feeds, and no collisions of course...
[21:02:21] <Turtl3boi> i understand that carbide has to be run fast
[21:02:51] <Turtl3boi> i see a lot of ppl saying it's better to run carbide end mills above 5000 rpm
[21:02:59] <awallin> yes, you probably want 6-8krpm if you have 6-10mm tools
[21:03:04] <Turtl3boi> for a 1" or smaller cutter diameter
[21:03:17] <awallin> that sounds right yes
[21:03:22] <Turtl3boi> for aluminum does coolant absolutely need to be used?
[21:03:39] <Turtl3boi> can i get away with not using it in a lot of cases
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[21:04:29] <awallin> only if you take light cuts
[21:04:44] <awallin> or possibly replace with pressurized air, to move the chips away
[21:04:59] <Turtl3boi> ahhh ok
[21:05:13] <Turtl3boi> wow i'm surprised those carbide tools last for years on aluminum
[21:05:22] <Turtl3boi> aluminum alloys aren't exactly soft
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[21:09:41] <Turtl3boi> awallin what if i used a cobalt cutter on aluminum
[21:10:05] <Turtl3boi> could that potentially last a decently long time
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[21:17:10] <awallin> I don't know. cobalt is probably only the surface coating? on a hss cutter?
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[21:36:23] <Nick001-Shop> cobalt is alloyed in with the hss. as you sharpen it, the cobalt toughness stays there
[21:36:24] <Nick001-Shop>
[21:37:44] <Nick001-Shop> Carbide with the TIN coating will seem to last forever with just a little coolant just to help keep it clean
[21:38:06] <Turtl3boi> Thanks NickShop
[21:38:38] <Turtl3boi> i feel like getting a carbide with tin coating
[21:38:45] <Turtl3boi> the tin coating is genius
[21:40:08] <Nick001-Shop> I use the carbide/Tin to open holes and shapes on the Mazak VMC and they last a long time and thats in A-2 tool steel
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[21:41:04] <archivist> what breaks tooling is loose and flexible machine and clamping
[21:42:02] <Turtl3boi> wait do u mean tin or Ti N (titanium nitride)
[21:43:10] <archivist> Ti N (titanium nitride)
[21:43:16] <Nick001-Shop> titanium nitride - That gets long in the afternoon so everyone calls it TIN
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[21:43:21] <archivist> tin is for cans and solder
[21:44:26] <Nick001-Shop> for ears too
[21:44:33] <FinboySlick> archivist: I'm not sure it would last very long as a carbide endmill coating.
[21:45:32] <Turtl3boi> how can silver be used as a brazing material to attach a cutter to a blank
[21:45:48] <archivist> try bending pure tin, it appears ductile while you feel/hear cracking
[21:45:55] <Turtl3boi> how can the silver be strong enough to hold that cutter when machining steel
[21:46:30] <archivist> the area of contact
[21:47:37] <Turtl3boi> but think how ductile silver is!
[21:47:41] <Turtl3boi> you can easily bend a silver spoon
[21:47:54] <Turtl3boi> doesn't make sense to me
[21:48:13] <archivist> the area of the solder will be very large compared to the cutting area
[21:48:35] <Tom_itx> used properly is the key word
[21:48:44] <FinboySlick> Turtl3boi: You can pretty easily bend wood dry glue too. But try to break a couple properly glued 2x4 appart and you're more likely to rip wood off one side.
[21:48:46] <archivist> so the pounds per square inch of load will be less on the solder
[21:48:53] <Nick001-Shop> again - it's alloyed into the brazing rod
[21:48:56] <Tom_itx> you can make a string of glue but it won't hold anything as a string
[21:49:42] <Turtl3boi> i don't think that's the whole story
[21:49:46] <Turtl3boi> but yeah i see what you're saying
[21:49:56] <Tom_itx> it's most of it
[21:50:15] <Turtl3boi> the small contact area of the cutter cutting the steel vs. the large area of the cutter anchored to the blank
[21:50:21] <Tom_itx> low melting point doesn't affect the properties of the other metals
[21:52:21] <Turtl3boi> have you heard of "superlattice"
[21:52:52] <Turtl3boi> when you stack nano sized alternating layers of materials you can get mechanical toughness far superior to either of the bulk materials
[21:53:07] <alex4nder-> : |
[21:53:08] <Turtl3boi> i wonder if that's what's going on when you have silver brazing
[21:53:44] <Turtl3boi> the silver might be a nano sized layer in between the ferrous metals
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[22:02:02] <Mjolinor> On the first page of stepconf, anyone got some ball park figures? I can't see why I have a 6ms pause between direction change and first step
[22:02:12] <Mjolinor> anyone know why?
[22:02:27] <cradek> check your driver documentation
[22:02:46] <Mjolinor> ok, driver not motor?
[22:03:27] <cradek> yes
[22:03:27] <Mjolinor> there is notign specified int eh motor datasheet, adn the driver datasheet jsut says minimum clock pulse 30 us
[22:03:35] <archivist> motor does what it is told
[22:03:46] <Mjolinor> :) In theory
[22:03:49] <cradek> it's a "feature" of step/dir drivers that they need those delays
[22:04:11] <archivist> specially the dumb ones that reduce the current
[22:04:16] <Mjolinor> but 6ms seems a long time form dir change to first pulse adn I cant see how to change it in stepconf
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[22:06:35] <Mjolinor> I think a lot of the problems I have been having are becasue the defualt step time and step space are way too short by default in stepconf
[22:07:08] <Mjolinor> default is 5us, I increased it to 40 us and it now is totally consistent
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[22:08:09] <jthornton> Mjolinor: those are not default settings!
[22:10:06] <Mjolinor> but that is what it is set to when you run it
[22:10:47] <jthornton> but you still have to use your own numbers and I think that all the fields should be blank when stepconf is run just to avoid the confusion :)
[22:11:21] <Mjolinor> they should
[22:11:33] <Mjolinor> I jsut assumed they were a best guess average as as starting point
[22:11:52] <Mjolinor> but htey actually seem to be very much towards the fastest of the pre configured settings in the list
[22:12:04] <jthornton> yes, because many people assume they work without even reading up on what they should be
[22:12:25] <jthornton> for their equipment
[22:12:30] <Mjolinor> :) if all else fails, read hte manual;
[22:12:43] <Mjolinor> the way of the world, as it is now so it has been and will ever be :)
[22:13:43] <Mjolinor> still cant understand this 6 or 7 ms delay between direction change and first step though
[22:13:50] <Mjolinor> and that is a function of EMC
[22:14:25] <jthornton> I've never seen that before, how did you do it?
[22:14:54] <Mjolinor> i have a scope on the direction pin and the step pin
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[22:15:20] <Mjolinor> could look at the scope in emc actually, maybe it is my parallel port or associated breakout board
[22:15:33] <jthornton> that could be
[22:15:38] <archivist> or stepconf waiting
[22:15:53] <Mjolinor> aha, can tdo that, I am in stepconf
[22:15:56] <Mjolinor> :)
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[22:16:09] <jthornton> are you watching this delay when running a program in axis?
[22:16:12] <Mjolinor> have to write a file for halscope I suppose :( groan
[22:16:33] <Mjolinor> in stepconf "test this axis"
[22:16:40] <archivist> I bet it is just the stepconf back forwards test
[22:16:55] <jthornton> yea, ignore that
[22:17:07] <jthornton> proceed on
[22:17:16] <archivist> next
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[22:21:05] <Mjolinor> it is the same in EMC, 7ms between direction and first step
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[22:57:28] <Mjolinor> If the large current persists, it may lead to a smoke emission.
[22:57:35] <Mjolinor> good warning for a datasheet that :)
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[23:16:18] <jthornton> ouch, did you let the magic smoke out?
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[23:28:10] <Loetmichel> I am "rednecking" again... i was in need of repeatable method of positioning my parts for the second side machining...
[23:29:26] <Loetmichel> ... so i got 2 pieces of wood, 3 sheets of paper as a spacer, glued one board to the fixed part of the vise, then 3 papers, than the oder board.
[23:29:59] <Loetmichel> milled a negative of the workpice in it, got the paper out, voila, a "form vise" ;-)
[23:30:07] <Loetmichel> -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12578
[23:30:11] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12581
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[23:35:40] <jthornton> a papers worth of grip
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[23:37:31] <Loetmichel> the paper was 0,3mm spacer for the vice to have something to grip to
[23:37:39] <andypugh> Well, that was frustrating and tedious.
[23:37:40] <Loetmichel> when the form is milled
[23:38:02] <jthornton> what's that Andy?
[23:38:18] <andypugh> It turns out that my spindle encoder was only counting 688 of the 720 slots.
[23:38:45] <andypugh> So, i have been making self-consistent threads, but they don't match anyone else's threads.
[23:38:58] <jthornton> ouch!
[23:39:23] <jthornton> alignment problems?
[23:39:36] <andypugh> So, I have been tweaking sensor-to target spacing, sensor comparator cut-off and sensor-to-sensor spacing.
[23:39:59] <jthornton> aye, I see
[23:40:32] <andypugh> The latter is the problem, I think. The A and B are far enough apart for a slight pitch-error and/or eccentricity to break the quadrature.
[23:41:28] <andypugh> My plan tomorrow is to re-mount them twisted through 90 degrees and right next to each other.
[23:42:18] <Turtl3boi> hi andy
[23:42:36] <Turtl3boi> how do you do your full time job and still have time to do the cnc stuff
[23:42:59] <andypugh> I don't do much sleeping.
[23:44:40] <andypugh> I applied for a job in CNC today though (University Research Fellowship in Precision Machining). Less money, but much nearer my family.
[23:47:03] <Turtl3boi> nice
[23:47:07] <Turtl3boi> money is not everything
[23:47:19] <Turtl3boi> how do you get a fellowship if you're not a student anymore?
[23:47:27] <Tom_itx> andypugh, homebrew encoder?
[23:47:59] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Yes. I am sure it used to work fine, but perhaps not...
[23:48:26] <Tom_itx> did the alignment change?
[23:49:21] <andypugh> Turtl3boi: You apply, it's a job. The want a PhD and post-doctoral experience, it's hard to be a student at that point, you run out of qualifications to go for. :-)
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[23:49:55] <Tom_itx> andypugh what do they do there?
[23:49:58] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Yes, probably when I changed the spindle bearings things settled in new locations.
[23:50:05] <Tom_itx> ahh
[23:50:51] <andypugh> Turtl3boi: Here's the job.. http://www-old.hud.ac.uk/hr/jobs/?id=1618
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[23:54:30] <Tom_itx> looks like if you were a minority with a disability you would be a shoe in
[23:58:13] <treid> good luck Andy
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