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[00:04:21] <Danimal_garage> eyeball it
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[00:05:11] <Danimal_garage> put a pin in the hole for the wire, indicate it straight, then find center
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[00:05:25] <Danimal_garage> witth the part in a vice
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[00:13:42] <JT-Shop> I think I have a plan now... I'll make it in three pieces so the hub of the spool is just a piece of CR round with a bored hole and a few cross holes
[00:14:01] <JT-Shop> make the sides and weld them on after the center is done
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[00:22:06] <JT-Shop> Dan I'm cooking kitty lasagne come on over
[00:27:51] <fritzgutten> hey all, anyone have experience setting up a tripod?
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[00:35:33] <Danimal_garage> haha yum!
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[01:11:54] <Tom_L> damn freenode
[01:16:00] <Danimal_garage> ha
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[01:55:11] <A2Sheds> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=20&func=view&id=2214&catid=27
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[01:56:11] <A2Sheds> I can't find much info on SoftDMC, (besides the thin manual) is it hidden in plain sight somewhere?
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[03:16:21] <Tom_itx> ok, on x and y i can see both pos and neg limit switches but what about z?
[03:16:28] <Tom_itx> pos only?
[03:16:30] <Tom_itx> both?
[03:19:18] <Danimal_garage> huh?
[03:19:29] <Danimal_garage> you should be able to have both on any axis
[03:19:48] <Danimal_garage> if you configure it that way
[03:19:51] <Tom_itx> so at what point would z trip?
[03:20:10] <Tom_itx> no tools in the spindle touching the table?
[03:20:34] <Danimal_garage> wherever you set it
[03:20:36] <Tom_itx> or just before that point
[03:20:52] <Tom_itx> i know that
[03:20:53] <Danimal_garage> i'd go just before that point as you'd never need to go lower
[03:20:53] <Tom_itx> but speaking in general what would a good point be?
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[03:21:34] <Tom_itx> we had soft limits on our okuma lathe and sometimes they would get in the way
[03:21:34] <Tom_itx> but most of the time it saved a tool
[03:22:32] <Tom_itx> are your home switches on the positive side?
[03:22:39] <Danimal_garage> with the tool and part factored in, the z- limit won't really save a crash for the most part
[03:22:48] <Danimal_garage> it'll always screw something up
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[03:23:17] <Tom_itx> i know
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[03:23:22] <Tom_itx> that's why i was asking
[03:23:44] <Danimal_garage> servo or stepper?
[03:23:53] <Tom_itx> stepper.. slower machine
[03:24:22] <Danimal_garage> any feedback?
[03:24:30] <Tom_itx> no
[03:24:52] <Danimal_garage> hopefully the drives are sensative enough to fault before it breaks shit
[03:25:21] <Danimal_garage> it you don't wander too far durring first time program runs you should be fine
[03:25:22] <Tom_itx> hopefully i can avoid it all together
[03:25:45] <Tom_itx> yeah my current control won't run if it's outside the soft limits
[03:26:10] <Danimal_garage> probably good to have limit switches with steppers
[03:26:33] <Danimal_garage> incase you miss a bunch of steps
[03:26:48] <Tom_itx> i don't have em all in use now but i pretty much know what it will do
[03:26:50] <Tom_itx> yeah
[03:27:18] <Tom_itx> and usually if it misses steps it comes up short
[03:27:37] <Danimal_garage> until it goes to the other end of the travel
[03:27:41] <Danimal_garage> then it's long
[03:27:58] <Tom_itx> i don't run it unattended so it's pretty clear when that happens
[03:28:14] <Tom_itx> and avoidable
[03:28:40] <Danimal_garage> hard to see if it's only .100" off, and that could do damage
[03:28:49] <Danimal_garage> speaking from experience lol
[03:29:11] <Tom_itx> i know
[03:30:10] <Danimal_garage> i only have 1 machine with limit switches so i'm a bit of a hyporite
[03:30:24] <Danimal_garage> hypocrate*
[03:30:27] <Danimal_garage> or whatever
[03:30:50] <Danimal_garage> the other 2 do not
[03:30:52] <Tom_itx> heh
[03:31:10] <Tom_itx> i know what *should* be done but practically..
[03:31:54] <Danimal_garage> ha
[03:31:56] <Danimal_garage> yea
[03:32:01] <Danimal_garage> same here for the most part
[03:32:12] <Danimal_garage> i dont even have an e stop on my lathe haha
[03:32:26] <Danimal_garage> no buttons, only a keyboard and mouse
[03:32:49] <Tom_itx> i don't have an 'official' estop type on my pendant but there's a button
[03:33:04] <Tom_itx> i may get one one of these days and swap it out
[03:33:05] <Danimal_garage> and i have several control pannels kicking around i can scavange from too
[03:35:45] <Tom_itx> well, i wired pins for all of em
[03:35:53] <Tom_itx> some may get shorted out :)
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[05:06:58] -leguin.freenode.net:#emc- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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[05:21:21] -hubbard.freenode.net:#emc- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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[05:21:34] -hitchcock.freenode.net:#emc- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots -- please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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[09:01:09] <aitalmac01> I'm trying to connect hal_input with my keyboard but every time i get error "No input device could be opened" I have add the string for permission for udev
[09:01:22] <aitalmac01> I have EMC 2.5 pre release
[09:01:38] <aitalmac01> pre 2.12
[09:02:02] <aitalmac01> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man1/hal_input.1.html
[09:02:33] <aitalmac01> in inputspec i have write keyboard mouse or other names of device attached to my PC but it never works
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[09:05:25] <aitalmac01> if i write 3 wich is the event of the keyboard in dev/input i get error number 13 permission denied
[09:05:44] <aitalmac01> but i have add the string SUBSYSTEM=="input", mode="0660", group="plugdev"
[09:06:29] <aitalmac01> in a new file in /etc/udev/rules.d wich i called my-rules.rules
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[13:18:10] <JT-Shop> is this a second usb keyboard?
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[14:26:46] <Connor> Someone had link to a nice looking shaft encoder that has hubs that can be changed out for different shaft sizes.. anyone know the encoder I'm talking about or where it was ?
[14:27:13] <jdhNC> not me, but it doesn't sound cost effective.
[14:27:31] <Connor> They were just plastic snap in parts.
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[14:35:16] <Loetmichel> Connor: do you mean HEDS encoders?
[14:35:44] <Connor> I'm not sure.. it's been a few months ago.. I'm looking through IRC chat logs now..
[14:39:01] <Connor> That kind of looks like it.. they had different colored inserts..
[14:39:58] <psha[work]> Connor: logs are indexed so probably search will help you
[14:40:27] <Connor> I was looking through my personal logs.. were is the index at ?
[14:40:58] <Loetmichel> Connor: IIRC the color of the glass ring is coded the CPR
[14:41:22] <psha[work]> logger[psha]: .
[14:41:37] <psha[work]> search is at http://psha.org.ru/irc/
[14:42:34] <Loetmichel> hmm, maybe i should write a script which uploads my logs to my webserver...
[14:42:50] <Connor> can't advance to next page on search results..
[14:43:12] <Loetmichel> but here on the macheine are about 4GB irc logs since '91... could last a little longer to search for something ;-)
[14:43:13] <psha[work]> heh, &start=20
[14:43:14] <psha[work]> :)
[14:43:19] <psha[work]> forgot to add Next page link
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[14:44:37] <psha[work]> Loetmichel: 1gb of emc logs :)
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[14:46:45] <Loetmichel> psha[work]: i am only in about 10 channels, and not since '91 in every one ;-)
[14:47:13] <psha[work]> heh, i've grabbed logs from old archives ;)
[15:00:10] <psha[work]> Connor: next/prev links added
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[15:15:12] <Connor> found them! http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=1966131&k=amt103
[15:18:23] <A2Sheds> wow, decent res and speeds as well 7500rpm at 2048ppr, 30k rpm at 512ppr
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[15:18:48] <A2Sheds> and only $23 ea
[15:20:45] <A2Sheds> what do they use for bearings?
[15:21:05] <Connor> no clue. but won't work for my application, only good up to shaft size of 8mm.
[15:22:44] <A2Sheds> thanks for pointing those out, I'll have to try some, the price is low, not sure how durable they might be
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[15:28:08] <Connor> I could make my own.. print out a encoder disk on my 3D printer.. and use a few slot sensors..
[15:28:23] <Connor> it's for a powerchair motor.
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[16:57:51] <Loetmichel> re @ home
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[17:06:56] <Loetmichel> Connor: i dont think your 3dprinter will have enough resolution
[17:07:39] <Loetmichel> dthe glass disks inside the encoders are normalliy silver platet and then etched to up to 2000 lines per Rotation
[17:08:02] <Loetmichel> for EMC and servo use i would recommend about 500cpr
[17:08:17] <Loetmichel> which is not so simple as it looks
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[17:09:11] <Loetmichel> i started a "dc servo drive" with 100cpr and 1:3 geared down (never finished though) that was the limit of my milling capability
[17:09:31] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=702
[17:09:39] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=705
[17:09:45] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=708
[17:09:51] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=711
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[17:10:07] <Loetmichel> the mount is the same as a 56mm stepper motor
[17:10:18] <Loetmichel> for a size comparsion
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[17:18:32] <Loetmichel> ah, i just read you want to use it for a wheelchair?
[17:18:48] <Loetmichel> tahts a project for my wife here, too...
[17:19:23] <Loetmichel> bu i will use two small Model plane motors... Brushless synchronous three phase
[17:19:32] <Loetmichel> ... about 2.2kW each ;-)
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[18:09:13] <Danimal_garage> hi
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[18:11:30] <Danimal_garage> yawn
[18:11:45] <JT-Shop> Hi Dan
[18:11:58] <JT-Shop> logger[psha]: log
[18:12:14] <Danimal_garage> hi john
[18:12:27] <JT-Shop> how's your bike coming along?
[18:12:31] <Danimal_garage> i wish the HNC had more room for chips
[18:12:41] <Danimal_garage> havent touched it in a while
[18:12:50] <Danimal_garage> too much stuff going on
[18:12:53] <JT-Shop> you do have to clean them out once and a while
[18:12:59] <JT-Shop> I know that feeling
[18:13:31] <Danimal_garage> haha yea, it's covered in dust and chips
[18:14:29] <Danimal_garage> i actually only have maybe a day of work left on the frame before i can strip the bike and paint it
[18:15:09] <Danimal_garage> well maybe a bit more, i need to make a battery/electronics box so i can weld some mounting tabs on the frame
[18:15:39] <Danimal_garage> i gotta make some gussets for the frame as well
[18:16:02] <Danimal_garage> easy, however i want them to look nice so i'm not sure how to design them
[18:23:02] <Danimal_garage> yay, last chainring done!
[18:23:07] <Danimal_garage> for now anyways
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[19:06:13] <JT-Shop> I'm a dumbass when it comes to microscopes... is this a good one for insert inspection? http://www.microscope.com/omano-om4413-10x30x-dual-power-stereo-microscope-p-301.html
[19:07:16] <awallin_> the new ones have zoom, this one is either 10x or 30x
[19:07:22] <awallin_> try browsing the edmunds catalog
[19:07:36] <awallin_> http://www.edmundoptics.com/
[19:07:44] <JT-Shop> thanks
[19:08:11] <Danimal_garage> isnt it cheaper to just replace the insert if it's questionable? lol
[19:08:13] <awallin_> Zeiss is good we have one but it is around 4k...
[19:08:35] <JT-Shop> well I like looking at them before use
[19:09:23] <Danimal_garage> really?
[19:09:38] <Danimal_garage> ever find any bad ones that are new?
[19:10:58] <JT-Shop> before next use :) specially taps
[19:12:17] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop
[19:12:20] <JT-Shop> I have a 10x loupe I use now but the light in my head went out
[19:12:24] <Tom_itx> you looking for an inspection scope?
[19:12:31] <JT-Shop> yea
[19:12:44] <Tom_itx> one sec
[19:13:22] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/scope/scope2.jpg
[19:13:25] <Tom_itx> that's what you want
[19:13:30] <Tom_itx> 7 x 45 zoom
[19:13:38] <Tom_itx> i wouldn't get a fixed lense
[19:14:19] <Tom_itx> you can get it in trinocular as well for camera mount
[19:14:32] <Tom_itx> http://www.amscope.com/Stereo-Zoom.html
[19:14:37] <Tom_itx> take your pick
[19:14:41] <Danimal_garage> ah, inserts don't leave the machine until they're shot
[19:14:44] <Danimal_garage> for me
[19:14:48] <Tom_itx> they're on ebay as well
[19:15:04] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: thanks that was the page I was looking at before
[19:15:12] <Danimal_garage> taps.... i don't rigid tap so no biggie there
[19:15:39] <Tom_itx> mine was in the $300 350 range
[19:15:52] <Danimal_garage> ouch
[19:16:01] <Tom_itx> that's cheap sir
[19:16:07] <Danimal_garage> that buys approx 50 inserts
[19:16:25] <Danimal_garage> a few year's worth for me at least
[19:16:52] <JT-Shop> one broken tap in a part I've been working on for a few days is worth a lot of money to me
[19:17:27] <Tom_itx> i use mine alot
[19:17:31] <Tom_itx> mostly for electronics
[19:17:43] <JT-Shop> http://store.amscope.com/sm-2t.html
[19:18:04] <Danimal_garage> JT-Shop: yea, for what you do, likely more important
[19:19:04] <Tom_itx> the base won't cost you any more if you shop around
[19:19:13] <Tom_itx> and i like the boom mount
[19:19:48] <Tom_itx> i get similar results as those pictures on the page you posted
[19:19:58] <JT-Shop> http://store.amscope.com/sm-3t.html
[19:20:02] <JT-Shop> brb
[19:20:03] <Tom_itx> you can see dust in the crevices of threads you think are clean
[19:20:49] <Tom_itx> that last link is what i wished i had gotten over the binocular
[19:21:10] <Tom_itx> i didn't get the ring light
[19:21:29] <Danimal_garage> my coolant in the lathe STINKS
[19:21:37] <Tom_itx> but i did get a clear filter for the bottom of it to protect the small lenses inside
[19:21:40] <Danimal_garage> i need to hook up my fish tank aerator
[19:21:46] <Tom_itx> it's an odd size like 48mm or something
[19:23:03] <Tom_itx> you don't really need the ring light unless you just want it
[19:23:22] <Tom_itx> get a cheap desk lamp
[19:23:33] <JT-Shop> I have several of them
[19:23:44] <Tom_itx> i use the ring light on my other magnifier
[19:24:16] <Tom_itx> unless you don't need pictures, get the trinocular
[19:24:23] <Tom_itx> they're both identical other than the head
[19:24:41] <Tom_itx> nice heavy base too
[19:25:01] <Tom_itx> make sure you get free shipping
[19:25:11] <Tom_itx> it should be but if not, find it on ebay
[19:25:18] <Tom_itx> same company
[19:25:21] <JT-Shop> $19 more for the trinocular
[19:25:28] <Tom_itx> it's worth it
[19:25:38] <Tom_itx> just to have for odd occasion
[19:25:47] <JT-Shop> brb
[19:28:03] <Tom_itx> you can take the boom off too if you don't want it
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[19:33:14] <Tom_L> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-7x-45x-Binocular-Stereo-Zoom-Microscope-Boom-Stand-/170270385439?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27a4e7e51f
[19:33:16] <Tom_L> cheaper
[19:33:31] <Tom_L> no camera
[19:34:24] <Tom_L> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOOM-STAND-TRINOCULAR-ZOOM-STEREO-MICROSCOPE-7X-45X-/400244619562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3070392a
[19:34:31] <Tom_L> basically the same price
[19:34:51] <Tom_L> if you bid 375 you'd get it, they post multiple bids all the time
[19:35:52] <TekniQue> I have a binocular microscope, use it for electronics work mostly
[19:36:03] <TekniQue> it really takes the doubt out of soldering small parts
[19:36:04] <Tom_L> same here
[19:36:24] <TekniQue> 0.5mm and smaller pitch qfp/qfn, 0402 passives, etc
[19:45:01] <JT-Shop> Tom_L: thanks
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[19:46:48] <Tom_itx> np
[19:47:57] <Tom_itx> the only extra i got was the clear filter for the bottom and i got that thru a local photo shop
[19:48:02] <Tom_itx> special order
[19:48:31] <JT-Shop> they have them on flea bay
[19:48:35] <Tom_itx> i think it was 52mm but i'd
[19:48:38] <Tom_itx> ooops
[19:48:42] <JT-Shop> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1X-BARLOW-LENS-SUPER-WIDEFIELD-STEREO-MICROSCOPES-/200276788476?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ea16d44fc
[19:48:42] <Tom_itx> it was 53mm
[19:48:45] <Tom_itx> dammit
[19:48:49] <Tom_itx> it was 52mm
[19:49:44] <Tom_itx> if that's what you want. mine is just a flat filter
[19:50:14] <JT-Shop> I think this is just a flat one
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[19:50:40] <JT-Shop> it's listed at the bottom of the page for the microscope
[19:50:48] <Tom_itx> i'd ask em if it fits because there are several different heads
[19:50:54] <Tom_itx> ok
[19:50:55] <PasstSchoEMC> hi there
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[19:53:40] <Tom_L> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/72713-REG/Tiffen_52UVP_52mm_UV_Protector.html
[19:53:49] <Tom_L> JT-Shop,
[19:54:16] <JT-Shop> yes
[19:54:23] <Tom_L> ^^
[19:54:40] <Jymmm> \/ \/
[19:55:44] <Tom_L> free shipping
[19:56:08] <JT-Shop> looks like all of amscope is free shipping on flea bay
[19:56:14] <Tom_L> get a FLIR camera while you're shopping there too
[19:56:24] <Tom_L> JT-Shop, yeah they always have been
[19:56:34] <Tom_L> 2 boxes ~ 50lbs
[19:57:29] <JT-Shop> these all say 48mm threads
[19:57:46] <Tom_L> ok, mine is 52
[19:57:58] <Tom_L> get the scope then get the lens
[19:58:01] <Tom_L> that's what i did
[19:58:18] <Tom_L> i wouldn't pay 40 bucks for one though
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[19:59:01] <JT-Shop> I might go looking through my Canon AE-1 bag and find one... never know
[20:00:16] <Tom_L> 48mm cost more
[20:01:22] <JT-Shop> in 4h 28m I'll find out if I won at $375
[20:01:23] <Tom_L> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/72713-REG/Tiffen_52UVP_52mm_UV_Protector.html
[20:01:53] <Tom_L> as soon as you win, they repost it
[20:03:27] <JT-Shop> yea 48mm is $40 there too
[20:03:46] <Tom_L> must be a slightly different head
[20:06:32] <JT-Shop> well I need to go get the backhoe warming up, we have to clean up a downed tree at my friends house so we can shoot some Charlie and Patsy out of the cannon Saturday
[20:06:47] <JT-Shop> s/some/some of
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[20:18:52] <tom3p> JT-Shop, http://www.hgrinc.com/ search microscopes
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[20:23:49] <Connor> Loetmichel: For the encoder, should be fine, I only need 32 to 64 teeth on it, which will yield 256 clicks per revolution in a quadrature encoder and I'm reading from the motor. which is highly geared down. This isn't for CNC it's for a robot. Motors are from a power wheel chair.
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[21:00:31] <Danimal_garage> are charlie and patsy cats?
[21:05:25] <tom3p> on the wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?Mesa_Cards it describes the 5i25 as "pin-compatible with ... Gecko G540"
[21:05:28] <tom3p> huh? is the 5i20 incompatible or does the 5i25 have db9 headers?
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[21:07:49] <tom3p> nevermind, i think they mean its as good as any parport
[21:12:03] <PCW> Yes it means theres a G540 compatible pinout with hardware step generators on the DB25F (and second port header as well)
[21:14:14] <PCW> And its rather better than a parport :-)
[21:15:16] <tom3p> i read the manual now, and yes it is better (nom )
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[23:34:34] <andypugh> PCW: I am playing about with 8i20 (not actually having much luck).
[23:35:19] <andypugh> Any idea why the motor sits there twitching with amp-enable off and current 0?
[23:36:53] <andypugh> It is possibly on a very early 8i20 firmware.
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[23:40:38] <PCW> No idea, 8I20 firmware is pretty stable
[23:40:40] <PCW> what do you have connected to the 8I20
[23:41:56] <andypugh> 7i44, 325V PSU, 5i23
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[23:42:57] <andypugh> It's 8i20 Serial No A0000002
[23:43:33] <andypugh> I would expect no current to the motor with amp-enable off.
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[23:45:50] <andypugh> (I turned the amp off to check the stability of my Resolver interface, which is probably the main cause of my problems.)
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[23:46:19] <andypugh> But I am working through the possibilities. bldc might be to blame too, but it's hard to see how.
[23:49:32] <PCW> Do you have a red fault light?
[23:50:42] <PCW> SSLBP should not be able to start the 8I20 if you have no enable
[23:51:40] <andypugh> The enable pin is connected
[23:52:09] <andypugh> this is the software amp_enable. (I have actually forgotten what that does)
[23:52:45] <PCW> OK so the 8I20 _is_ enabled, just 0 current
[23:53:34] <andypugh> Now I think about it, yes. That was all that did, wasn't it?
[23:53:52] <PCW> if the hardware enable is on and you start SSLBP the 8I20 is ON
[23:55:27] <andypugh> Yes, I just looked at the code. Amp-enable in HAL is just a current over-ride.
[23:55:32] <PCW> (PWM and 0 current)
[23:55:34] <PCW> If you have motor connection problem, funny things can happen with the PI current loop even at 0 current
[23:55:35] <PCW> so check carefully with power off
[23:56:21] <PCW> normally you would just hear some noise from the current control loop