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[01:09:44] <jdhNC> anyone using backlash compensation? does it do anything weird to circles?
[01:11:19] <archivist> backlash does it, the compensation tries to fix
[01:15:28] <jdhNC> it only does it on direction change?
[01:16:21] <jdhNC> it looks good (on my dial indicator) doing straight moves, just thought it might have problems at each quadrant
[01:17:37] <archivist> mechanical fix is better than software fix
[01:17:51] <jdhNC> yeah, I just don't have any time
[01:18:59] <jdhNC> I mainly do straight cuts so in general, my cuts are just .004 short
[01:19:35] <jdhNC> which is pretty much lost on a cheap router cutting hpde
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[01:20:32] <jdhNC> next... autocad. I want to mark two points and have it auto-space 8 bolt holes between them
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[06:22:12] <Jymmm> jdhNC: Isn't it usually the centerpoint,diameter, and qty of holes?
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[10:08:26] <Loetmichel> kurz windows-update-reboot
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[13:17:59] <JT-Shop> anyone know of a good LAN speed test
[13:18:11] <psha[work]> JT-Shop: lan or internet?
[13:18:18] <JT-Shop> lan
[13:18:20] <psha[work]> iperf
[13:18:24] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[14:05:42] <JT-Shop> cncbasher: McMaster-Carr just got back to me on the spindle belt and they drop ship that so all new belts by next week :)
[14:06:57] <JT-Shop> funny typos seemed to sneak into my mind... git instead of get, ls instead of dir in a winblows terminal :)
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[14:28:22] <grommit> Is there a way to slave two axis together using Trivkins (instead of doing it with Gantrykins)?
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[14:29:27] <grommit> I have a strange bug and want to see if it goes away if I use Trivkins instead of Gantrykins
[14:31:53] <grommit> JT-Shop: jcizek sent me email. He has his config (mostly) working. He has one issue he hasn't been able to work out but it is working and he is cutting.
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[14:36:30] <JT-Shop> grommit: good
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[18:08:25] <cnc-9Achs> Hi all on my new PC system
[18:09:13] <cnc-9Achs> ebay 1-2-3 mine 2,4GHz 80GB HDD 1GB Ram
[18:09:18] <cnc-9Achs> 35Euros
[18:09:39] <cnc-9Achs> i got a Question witch parport mode shoudt i set in the bios ?
[18:09:58] <cnc-9Achs> ecp epp ecp&epp
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[18:12:27] <pjm> cnc-9Achs i think back when I used the parport for step/dir I used EPP
[18:12:45] <pjm> since then tho I've moved to a 7i43 card for more I/O
[18:13:50] <cnc-9Achs> someone els how agrees to set to epp
[18:16:47] <pjm> are u using the parport to output step/direction etc?
[18:17:03] <cnc-9Achs> yes on 5 axis
[18:17:29] <pjm> ok for 5 axis u might quickly run out of IO pins unless you have more than one parport
[18:17:33] <JT-Shop> software step generation?
[18:17:52] <cnc-9Achs> axis astepgen
[18:19:10] <JT-Shop> EMC takes care of that
[18:19:58] <JT-Shop> AFAIK the only time you need EPP is with a paraport card like the 7i43 or some number like that
[18:20:05] <cnc-9Achs> JT-Shop: if i say in ini file 9Axis does it matter the AXES_Nummber or can i go for XYBUV from 0 to 4
[18:21:04] <cnc-9Achs> in the Traj section
[18:21:24] <cnc-9Achs> X= AXES_0 ,Y=1
[18:22:18] <cnc-9Achs> can i go with my B axis AXIS_2 or do i have to use Axis_4
[18:23:07] <cnc-9Achs> coordinates are X Y B U V
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[18:24:14] <JT-Shop> I'm not sure about that, have you read the config section of the Integrators Manual?
[18:24:35] <cnc-9Achs> i will do o this
[18:33:32] <FinboySlick> I seem to recall someone here saying they have a Sherline... Wouldn't happen to be a lathe by any chance, is it?
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[18:34:15] <JT-Shop> I seem to recall that too but my memory is kinda fuzzy as I grow shorter
[18:34:46] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: Kind of like nitinol being put to a grinder? ;)
[18:35:56] <cnc-9Achs> JT-Shop: i need to set the AXES_Number to the given in EMC 4.2.9 Section
[18:36:18] <cnc-9Achs> so B is 4 U is 6 and V is 7
[18:36:26] <andypugh> Yes
[18:36:48] <andypugh> This makes no sense, and is likely to change in the future.
[18:36:49] <cnc-9Achs> thanks and by till i need morehelp
[18:37:21] <JT-Shop> FinboySlick: :)
[18:38:04] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: Thanks for saving me from having to explain that one.
[18:38:33] <FinboySlick> Ever worked with nitinol? It's pretty mind boggling.
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[18:39:24] <JT-Shop> no, I've just seen it on TV or somewhere
[18:40:15] * JT-Shop goes to set up the ratchet gear for the ballista on the mill :)
[18:40:31] <Tom_itx> again?
[18:40:55] <FinboySlick> Ballista as in giant crossbow?
[18:41:15] <Tom_itx> using a leaf spring
[18:41:55] <FinboySlick> Awesome!
[18:42:08] <FinboySlick> I want pictures :)
[18:42:17] <Tom_itx> there are some
[18:42:21] <Tom_itx> i don't have the link
[18:42:33] <FinboySlick> I'm sure he'll share when he returns.
[18:42:40] <Tom_itx> yup
[18:42:55] <FinboySlick> I get you two confused and it doesn't help that you seem to know eachother so well.
[18:43:17] <Tom_itx> maybe i've just been on irc too long
[18:43:31] <Tom_itx> i try to keep a mental log of what different ppl do
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[18:44:48] <FinboySlick> You both seem to me like everything that's awesome about good old american redneck tinkerers. Though I'm not sure either of you is far enough south to warrant the redneck title.
[18:46:29] <archivist> iirc jt has moved north :)
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[18:52:17] <Tom_itx> damn irc
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[18:57:01] <tom3p> example of the synchronization of uv to xy for extrusion dies (no affiliation)
http://www.ezcam.com/web/support/ezshow/video.asp?vurl=edmmatch&subj_id=5&q=34&r=0
[18:58:18] <andypugh> Have you heard of "Liquid Metal"? Apparently Apple bought the patent, but so far have only used it for SIM ejector tools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrapkkuQGIk
[18:58:34] <tom3p> cnc-9achs was looking into hot wire ( i think ) but the interpolations needed are same
[18:58:53] <FinboySlick> andypugh: Yeah, I thought the stuff was pretty awesome, glassy mix of boron and a bunch of other materials, right?
[18:59:07] <andypugh> I believe so, yes.
[18:59:10] <FinboySlick> Last I heard they were making golf drivers.
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[19:24:48] <moopy> how are things going in emc thesedays?
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[19:43:27] <andypugh> Ironingout bugs in 2.5 before release. mainly.
[19:51:42] <moopy> anyone thinking of adding in my halitosis code and the dhkins.ko rt module?
[19:51:49] <FinboySlick> A2Sheds: What was the atom board you mentioned working on RTAI optimized coreboot support for again?
[19:52:37] <moopy> unfortunatly the halitosis .hal files depend on the dhkins.ko module
[20:08:58] <PCW> Andy thanks for the 7I64 patch, starts reliably now (though the patch does not seem to be in master, only 2.5)
[20:10:31] <PCW> ISTR its a fusion based board, not Atom
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[20:28:11] <JT-Shop> PCW if it is in 2.5 when the branch is merged it will go to master
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[20:47:35] <PCW> JT-Shop Ok thanks!
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[21:38:59] <andypugh> moopy: What does dhkins do?
[21:39:11] <andypugh> Seems a very odd dependency for Haitosis
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[23:35:38] <jdhNC> connor?
[23:35:43] <Connor> yea
[23:35:46] <jdhNC> heh
[23:36:00] <jdhNC> 3/8 is the biggest clamp set?
[23:36:09] <Connor> As far as I know.
[23:36:20] <jdhNC> the smallest one at shars is 7/16"
[23:36:21] <Connor> well. I think there might be 1/2
[23:36:29] <Connor> 3/8 is the size I got.
[23:36:51] <jdhNC> and the slots fit? would a bigger t-nut fit?
[23:37:04] <Connor> No. the T-nuts for 3/8 are exact match.
[23:37:23] <jdhNC> Hoss's recommended one is a 1/2"
[23:37:35] <Connor> let me double check.. brb
[23:38:11] <Connor> 58 Piece Combination Step Block and Clamp Set - 3/8"-16 NC Studs, 1/2" Clamps Harbor freight Sku 5952
[23:38:49] <Connor> gotta be careful about WHAT the measurement is..
[23:39:08] <Connor> I think the measurement is the stud diameter, not the T-nut size.
[23:39:11] <andypugh> It's the width of the slot on the machine bed.
[23:39:28] <andypugh> (AFAIK)
[23:39:36] <Connor> andypugh: That's what you need it to match, but, the venders say, 3/8" Bolt Size
[23:39:41] <jdhNC> on his main g0704.com page, there is an 'Accessories' button that had a fly-out with links to two clamp kits, both marked 1/2
[23:39:41] <Connor> which would be 1/2" T-Nuts
[23:40:14] <Connor> let me go look.. brb
[23:40:57] <jdhNC> ahh... the grizzly clamp kit has two sizes of t-nuts
[23:40:59] <Connor> Yea. If you follow the link, it takes you to the Grizzly G1075 52 pc set, which is 3/8" BOLT SIZE with 1/2" T nuts.
[23:41:15] <Connor> no.
[23:41:32] <Connor> 6 1/2" t-nuts, 6-flange nuts
[23:42:28] <Connor> This is what I got from HF with a 1/2 coupon code..
http://www.harborfreight.com/58-piece-combination-step-block-and-clamp-set-3-8-eighth-inch-16-nc-studs-1-2-half-inch-clamps-5952.html
[23:42:55] <Connor> but, yea, 3/8 stuff, with 1/2 clamps is what fits the 704
[23:42:55] <jdhNC> I was looking for one from Shars to cut down on shipping
[23:43:01] <Connor> let me look.. brb
[23:43:17] <jdhNC> http://www.shars.com/products/view/584/12quot_38quot16_52pc_Clamping_Kit
[23:43:26] <Connor> http://www.shars.com/products/view/584/12quot_38quot16_52pc_Clamping_Kit
[23:43:33] <Connor> Doh, you beat me to it.
[23:44:25] <jdhNC> I found a huge, NIB nema34 stepper at work today, label says 450oz/in
[23:44:27] <Connor> It's really a 58 pc too
[23:44:50] <jdhNC> it's at least twice as big/heavy as my 480oz/in 23
[23:45:43] <Connor> Ah, they're silly, the smaller clamps they count as singles.. HF is the only one to specify the correct # of parts in the kit.. *boggle*
[23:45:51] <andypugh> jdhNC: Possibly the torque spec is actual rated, rather than peak static
[23:47:04] <jdhNC> andy: oh... any way to compare the two?
[23:47:21] <Connor> compare the spec sheets side by side.
[23:47:42] <jdhNC> this one is pretty old... do they not make round ones anymore?
[23:48:08] <andypugh> Round is old-school, but I think that is just fashion
[23:48:22] <jdhNC> Up to 150% rated torque reserve capacity
[23:48:26] <Connor> square probably better heat sink.
[23:48:41] <andypugh> However, if it is old enough, it might not have rare-earth magnets, and so will be a fair bit weaker pound-for-pound
[23:49:01] <jdhNC> looks like they still sell them, Slo-Syn M093
[23:49:19] <jdhNC> 550oz-in in bipolar, the 450 is uni
[23:50:09] <andypugh> Is there a torque/speed curve?
[23:50:46] <jdhNC> http://www.mcsupplyco.com/uploads/images/drawings/superel/perfmenvlpe9.gif
[23:51:17] <jdhNC> drops off Reallllly fast after 7rps
[23:51:45] <andypugh> That's the problem with large frame steppers
[23:52:34] <andypugh> But eBay would call that a 600 oz.in stepper.
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[23:56:48] <jimlay> I've just finished my CNC router and it's currently controlled by an arduino emulating a serial port on my computer. I can echo commands like "x 4000>/dev/ttyAM0" and my x axis rotates 4000 steps.
[23:57:12] <jimlay> I'm trying to figure out the optimal path to getting to where I can execute gcode.
[23:57:28] <jimlay> Is anyone around that's familliar with the details of this?
[23:59:21] <Tom_itx> there is a limited gcode arduino lib somewhere
