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[00:27:07] <FinboySlick> skunkworks: Syil X5 Speedmaster.
[00:27:23] <FinboySlick> skunkworks: Funny you mention that, I just dropped and broke my dial indicator :(
[00:30:12] <FinboySlick> Broke it before its first use, good thing I bought it cheap.
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[00:46:13] <AitalMAC> anyone available?
[00:49:08] <Tom_itx> for what?
[00:49:11] <Tom_itx> just ask
[00:49:18] <Tom_itx> then wait
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[00:50:07] <AitalMAC> need help with automatic tool change
[00:50:33] <AitalMAC> I really can't get my head around how to do it
[00:51:57] <AitalMAC> can i havean output that execute a determined g-code, or that moves the machine in a determined position
[00:56:35] <AitalMAC> Can i use ladders to move the axis in a position say X200 Y15
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[01:45:08] <jdhNC> I know nothing of ATC's, but that won't stop me from commenting on it
[01:46:45] <jdhNC> I'd think you would want a subroutine that moved everything to safe transit locations, then moved to the ATC position, then executed whatever ladder code was needed to do the tool change, go back to save places, then continue whatever you need to do.
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[02:00:24] <AitalMAC> how do you program a subroutine?
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[02:01:44] <jdhNC> write whatever gcode you want in the routine, start it with Onnn SUB, end it with Onnn ENDSUB, call it with Onnn CALL
[02:03:10] <jdhNC> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#cha:O-Codes
[02:05:16] <AitalMAC> ok i have seen o-codes that is what i wanted to use
[02:05:27] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?Oword
[02:05:28] <AitalMAC> but you are saying i can call an o-code with a ladder?
[02:05:33] <Tom_itx> some examples
[02:06:29] <jdhNC> no, I'm saying you can move to whatever location you want with the SUB, then have the ladder do whatever you need to change tools.
[02:07:02] <AitalMAC> Ok but i would need to call the subroutine to change tools in the g-code
[02:07:04] <AitalMAC> am i right?
[02:07:33] <jdhNC> yes
[02:08:26] <AitalMAC> like O100 call [3] [3] for go change tool number 3 in position number 3
[02:08:44] <AitalMAC> that is what i had in mind
[02:11:12] <AitalMAC> Do you know how to use M66?
[02:11:26] <AitalMAC> Input Control
[02:13:48] <AitalMAC> i don't understand what they have write in the docs
[02:14:33] <AitalMAC> can i use this M66 to check the input of the sensor that tells me the tool is in or not?
[02:15:50] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ToolChangerImplementation
[02:22:42] <AitalMAC> that page sayd to be obsolete
[02:22:57] <AitalMAC> And i don't find nothing really usefull
[02:23:03] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ClassicLadderExamples
[02:23:21] <AitalMAC> there are some nice ideas but i don't think they have been implemented in EMC2
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[02:23:40] <AitalMAC> i have seen the ladder example
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[02:24:05] <Tom_itx> k
[02:25:09] <AitalMAC> i know i could connect input with the ladder, and comunicate with the IO in this page
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/man/man1/io.1.html
[02:26:26] <AitalMAC> I'd still have to call a subroutine
[02:26:57] <AitalMAC> I don't think it's plausible to do automatic tool change with the M6 unless the M6 command can call a subroutine
[02:27:32] <AitalMAC> Idea:
[02:27:32] <AitalMAC> if the command M6 appears the interpreter will call a special G-Code file writen by the machine integrator
[02:27:44] <AitalMAC> in the docs that you have give me
[02:27:48] <AitalMAC> it's still an idea
[02:28:08] <AitalMAC> a nice one, but i haven't read documentation of it being implemented
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[03:30:13] <AitalMAC> how can i manage input with subroutine (O codes)
[03:30:24] <AitalMAC> ???
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[04:36:11] <AitalMAC> how can i manage input with subroutine (O codes)???
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[06:31:07] <aitalmac_> Can i connect a pin to an hal component that shows me what frequency it reads from the Pin in HZ
[06:31:56] <aitalmac_> something like an encoder with only A but instead of always rising the count, it shows me the speed of the count
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[06:35:36] <aitalmac_> I have make a spindle ampere meter that send me a frequency depending on how many ampere the spindle is consuming, i just want to read the frequency and show the ampere on screen
[06:37:04] <aitalmac_> right now i have the pin connected to a virtual encoder phase A, the encoder is in count mode, so i read it rise, the i watch the velocity of the encoder to have an approximate state of the frequency
[06:37:12] <aitalmac_> there must be a better way
[06:37:18] <aitalmac_> to do this
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[07:45:13] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[08:32:07] <alex_joni> AitalMAC: not really
[08:32:13] <alex_joni> that's perfectly fine
[08:32:35] <AitalMAC> oh
[08:33:00] <AitalMAC> then i was thinkin, to devide the velocity i can use a ladder
[08:33:10] <AitalMAC> can i?
[08:33:19] <alex_joni> divide?
[08:33:47] <AitalMAC> yes divide
[08:34:07] <AitalMAC> because right now i get like 10000 rpm of speed
[08:34:18] <AitalMAC> i want to tranforma that in 3 amps
[08:34:50] <AitalMAC> so i have to divide
[08:37:11] <AitalMAC> I can't change the fact that every raise i get one round, so if i want a nice result i to in some way devide the velocity of the encoder and show it in something that looks like ampere
[08:38:52] <AitalMAC> I want to show ampere on the screen, so in some way i need to devide the velocity of the encoder and show it after the division, i think i can do that with ladder programming
[08:39:33] <alex_joni> you need to change the scale for the encoder
[08:40:48] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
[08:40:59] <alex_joni> encoder.x.position-scale
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[08:42:07] <AitalMAC> oh god i didn't saw that
[08:42:10] <AitalMAC> thanks
[08:42:27] <alex_joni> np
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[13:20:31] <skunkworks> cradek: how does the rigid tapping cycle handle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34_XQxa42r8
[13:20:35] <skunkworks> heh
[13:21:00] <skunkworks> cradek: that was a start of a question from last week... sorry
[13:44:49] <cradek> ?
[13:48:06] <awallin_> that full-width cut is a bit violent :)
[13:48:27] <cradek> yeah that's awfully close to not working
[13:48:47] <cradek> is that a wooden machine? if so, it's surprising how well it can do that
[13:51:47] <Loetmichel> cradek: dont underestimate the rigidity of wood, especially if its plywood of some sort
[13:55:53] <Loetmichel> i have cut through 3 sheets of 4mm thick GFK with 2400mm/min and a 3mm 2 flute TC bit @ 24kRPM.
[13:56:56] <skunkworks> cradek: the 'cradek: how does the rigid tapping cycle handle..' was unrelated to the video and was a question I started last week and didn't see it was in the box when I copied and pasted the link
[13:56:57] <Loetmichel> and the parts had been measured to be to about 0,05mm precise ;-)
[13:57:46] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4935
[13:57:55] <Loetmichel> with this machine
[13:58:16] <Loetmichel> s/3 sheets/2 sheets
[13:58:40] <Loetmichel> i.e 8mm of glass fibre reinforced plastics, FR4
[13:59:56] <skunkworks> cradek: I was wondering how rigid tapping cycle handles turning the spindle manually. Does it track both in and out if you turn the spindle both directions? or is it like the the threading cycle where if you turn the spindle the opposite direction from what it expects - the synced axis' don't move until you start turning it in the right direction and you get to the point that you left off....
[13:59:58] <skunkworks> ... Wow - I wonder if that made sense to anyone else)
[14:00:35] <cradek> it won't follow in the direction contrary to what it expects
[14:01:22] <skunkworks> ok - that is what I thought. So it acts similar to the lathe threading cycle.
[14:01:38] <cradek> yes it's (unsurprisingly) based on common code
[14:03:16] <skunkworks> heh I bet - since you did both ;)
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[17:37:16] <tom3p> any news on the replacement for iocontrol-v2? what is the branch name please?
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[22:51:32] <Tom_itx> how to make a spindle lockout so the spindle can't be shut off until the program is paused
[22:51:55] <Tom_itx> i noticed my pendant allows that but doesn't recover well
[22:52:11] <Tom_itx> it generates an error but doesn't allow the spindle to be turned on again
[22:52:59] <Tom_itx> i need to do a bit more testing to see exactly what happens
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[22:58:03] <andypugh> Tom_itx: A latch, on spindle-on with the reset on not spindle-on and not program-is-running
[22:59:12] <andypugh> Maybe
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/man/man9/flipflop.9.html
[22:59:34] <andypugh> And on that note, goodnight
[22:59:36] <Tom_itx> it's the first real testing i've done with it
[22:59:39] <Tom_itx> thanx
[22:59:48] <Tom_itx> dry run of course
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[23:28:02] <Tom_itx> guess that'll work for now
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[23:44:48] <jdhNC> no @?
[23:44:55] <Tom_itx> not me
[23:45:01] <Tom_itx> or i'd uv fixed it by now
[23:45:19] <Tom_itx> i am in half dozen other channels :)
[23:45:43] <jdhNC> I only have 4 (in an 80x25 term)
[23:46:38] <Tom_itx> jepler, alex_joni, cradek, jmkasunich, rayh, SWPadnos, skunkworks and Jymmm are
[23:47:06] <Tom_itx> no i meant i'm op in those
[23:47:19] <alex_joni> none of them around though ;)
[23:47:29] <Tom_itx> you are
[23:47:42] <alex_joni> who? me? you're seeing double :P
[23:47:42] <Tom_itx> op yourself and fix it
[23:47:55] <Tom_itx> /chanserv access #emc list
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[23:47:59] <Tom_itx> you are there
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[23:48:21] <jdhNC> and hope for no auto-rejoin
[23:48:30] <Tom_itx> heh
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[23:57:33] <jdhNC> how much does a J head bridgeport weigh?
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