#emc | Logs for 2011-09-17

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[00:09:54] <davidf> Hi
[00:11:25] <davidf> I downloaded and installed the Ubuntu 10.04 / emc2 OS and I'm getting the could not open shared memory error.
[00:12:28] <elmo40> can you take a screen shot?
[00:12:46] <davidf> I followed the instructions at http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/bin/emcinfo.pl?LockedMemory but it didn't work
[00:13:20] <davidf> screen shot of what?
[00:13:33] <elmo40> the error
[00:13:52] <davidf> I can pastebin it...
[00:13:58] <elmo40> sure
[00:17:02] <davidf> http://pastebin.com/R1cgBAfz
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[00:20:49] <davidf> Look at lines 76 - 84.
[00:22:57] <davidf> It only allows 64KiB of shared memory regardless of what I put in /etc/security/limits.conf
[00:25:37] <davidf> I meant Locked memory
[00:26:24] <davidf> elmo40, You still here?
[00:29:15] <elmo40> what is your system? can you lspci ?
[00:29:45] <elmo40> and not sure... but is there an option to which kernel to load at the Grub menu?
[00:30:24] <elmo40> because in line 7 it says 'Realtime system did not load;
[00:30:32] <davidf> I didn't get that option with 10.04. It did appear during boot with 8.04 though.
[00:31:48] <davidf> If you''l look at that link above re the error it says that's probably because of not locking enough memory though.
[00:32:42] <jdhNC> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting
[00:32:47] <jdhNC> see #2
[00:33:27] <jdhNC> err..3
[00:39:20] <davidf> jdhNC, I typed /etc/init.d/realtime and I just got the usage terms. What parameter should I put after it? It doesn't say in the link #3
[00:39:53] <elmo40> so... it didn't load the RTAI parts.
[00:41:42] <davidf> I tried /etc/init.d/realtime load and got the error msg error inserting (the rtapi file) and operation not permitted error.
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[00:44:33] <davidf> OK I am missing /dev/RTAI_SHM file.
[00:46:00] <davidf> Can I download that file from somewhere? link pls?
[00:46:39] <elmo40> no clue. :P sorry
[00:47:10] <elmo40> https://www.rtai.org/documentation/magma/html/api/rtai__shm_8h.html
[00:47:29] <elmo40> http://download.gna.org/rtai/documentation/kilauea/html/asm-mips_2rtai__shm_8h-source.html
[00:48:07] <jdhNC> it's not a real file
[00:48:18] <jdhNC> uname -a?
[00:49:52] <davidf> I don't understand jdhNC
[00:50:17] <jdhNC> type in 'uname -a'
[00:50:30] <jdhNC> what does it say
[00:53:23] <elmo40> http://whatsmyos.com/ ;)
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[00:54:01] <davidf> response is: Linux dave-shop 2.6.32.122-rtai
[00:54:11] <davidf> That's right, right?
[00:54:44] <jdhNC> yep
[00:55:11] <jdhNC> did you upgrade from 8.x or do a fresh install?
[00:55:56] <davidf> fresh install. Downloaded and burned a cd.
[00:56:14] <Tom_itx> iso?
[00:56:17] <Tom_itx> maybe try another one
[00:56:33] <davidf> yes, iso.
[00:56:45] <davidf> All over again? wah!
[00:57:12] <Tom_itx> or spend alot more time figuring it out
[00:57:29] <jdhNC> live-cd iso or something else?
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[00:59:24] <Tom_itx> http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/view/21/4/lang,english/
[00:59:28] <davidf> I downloaded the recommended file from linuxcnc.org. Forgot the exact link. I'll look
[00:59:32] <Tom_itx> I used that one with no problems
[01:00:29] <davidf> That's the one I downloaded.
[01:00:54] <davidf> I'll check the chksum
[01:09:11] <davidf> I'm reinstalling emc2 and emcdev. Hope that works...
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[01:14:24] <davidf> how do you do a chksum on the CD?
[01:16:34] <Tom_itx> that site shows it
[01:17:14] <Tom_itx> not familiar with MD5SUM but it's given there
[01:22:27] <davidf> thanks. Don't think I can do that, because I downloaded the iso on my win laptop, $ then spilled a drink all over the keyboard so it's sorta totally fried now. :(
[01:23:21] <davidf> Guess I'll download it again onto the linux box, check the md5sum and burn a new one. Darn. Thanks all.
[01:23:35] <jdhNC> you can md5sum the disc
[01:34:10] <davidf> bbl
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[05:58:40] <AitalMAC> I want to make automatic rack tool change for my machine, what choice do i have?
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[06:04:03] <AitalMAC> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Sample_HAL_And_ClassicLadder will this be a good start?
[06:06:32] <IG-garage> AitalMAC: they're all not here right now (sleeping). Try to ask later when they will discuss something
[06:07:36] <AitalMAC> ok i'll try thanks
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[11:44:27] <jthornton> bloggers what software do you use for your blogs?
[11:47:10] <jthornton> I see WordPress is on my server...
[12:00:06] <archivist> wordpress and others need some constant care due to spammers
[12:00:22] <jthornton> darn
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[12:03:19] <archivist> like http://www.adjustable.archivist.info/ try adding a comment, you cant, except wordpress has the odd bug and I do have 3 comments that are not displayed that I have to delete
[12:04:26] <archivist> spammers workout some injection methods for all the popular blogs and wikis
[12:07:31] <awallin> akismet works very well for blocking spam on wordpress
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[12:10:08] <archivist> if you lock down your local directory properly then some of the plugin wont work
[12:11:12] <Tom_itx> hackers took down an isp server the other day hacking in thru wordpress
[12:11:50] <awallin> yeah, the safest way is to unplug your computer from the interweb, or to not turn it on at all...
[12:12:06] <Tom_itx> his site was isp hosted
[12:12:49] <Tom_itx> turning it off doesn't much good for a webpage or blog
[12:13:32] <Tom_itx> but i agree, none of my critical pc's are on the web
[12:19:33] <IG-garage> oh guys. Drilling is a process in which I drill. Hard work when I do not sit and actually do something withing sequent 8-10 hours.
[12:20:17] <IG-garage> At least my back is straight now - unlike at previous job. My boss have decided to advance me for everything I have done for this plant.
[12:23:59] <IG-garage> http://images03.olx.ru/ui/5/16/50/1271850421_89141650_1----255--1271850421.jpg <-- it's like this
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[17:36:46] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[17:37:18] <IchGuckLive> does emc axis not show the moves of all axis in the window ?
[17:37:29] <IchGuckLive> i work on sim 9 axis
[17:38:13] <IchGuckLive> it gives me the path on the UV butr not on the XY
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[18:02:39] <awallin> what do I use to open/view DWG files on Ubuntu? Made with Autocad architectural desktop. I don't know if they are 2D or 3D
[18:04:19] <IchGuckLive> Heekscad awallin
[18:07:27] <IchGuckLive> awallin: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/post/314765/mit-qcad-dwg-dateien-%C3%B6ffnen.html#post314765
[18:09:43] <awallin> hm, guess I could try the latest install then... if heekscad can open dwg it is probably a feature in opencascade, so many others which also use opencascade should also be able to..
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[18:13:07] <IchGuckLive> awallin: http://lx-viewer.sourceforge.net/index.php
[18:13:16] <IchGuckLive> dwg2dxf
[18:15:30] <awallin> trying the latest heeks build-script now..
[18:18:29] <IchGuckLive> B) did this today also
[18:18:39] <IchGuckLive> ok i need to move on By
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[18:34:17] <tom3p> awallin, any luck with heeks & dwg format?
[18:34:42] <awallin> nope, built and installed, but DWG isn't in the file/open dialog
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[18:41:10] <tom3p> :( thx for thrying that out, DWG is problematic format
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[19:05:11] <pcw_home> does draftsight deal with DWG?
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[19:34:32] <tom3p> pcw_home, it googles to "Free CAD software * for your DWG files: DraftSight - Dassault ..." but i havent tried it. so this just says its a possibile solution
[19:36:36] <tom3p> wikipedia sez darftsight has "Read and write support for DWG/DXF file"
[19:37:44] <tom3p> i currently looking into inkscape->ngc so my sys has enuf tempo stuff on it for right now for right now :)
[19:38:15] <tom3p> btw the russian cnc club.ru stuff is handy but very hard to follow
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[21:05:27] <tom3p> a box with 8.04(ext3) cant see partitions with 10.04(ext4), will i be able to see a differnet boxes' ext4 over a lan?
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[21:22:44] <JT-Shop> tom3p: yea, just make sure you put a share on the folders
[21:23:57] <davidf> hi, when I try to run emc2 I get this error in the terminal:
[21:25:01] <davidf> libnml/buffer/physmem.cc 143: PHYSMEM_HANDLE: Can't write 10748 bytes at offset 60 from buffer of size 10208.
[21:25:43] <JT-Shop> did you upgrade EMC?
[21:26:02] <JT-Shop> or running an older config with a newer EMC?
[21:26:57] <davidf> I marked all upgrades with symantic and ran it. Not sure if emc was included.
[21:28:03] <davidf> I downloaded the linux 10.04 / emc2 package as iso and installed the whole thing yesterday. Then I did a comprhensive update via symantic.
[21:28:12] <davidf> I mean synaptic.
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[21:29:52] <davidf> I found the link about adding lapic to the quiet splash line, and emc ran ok after that. I thing I might have updated after that. Can't remember, but now it odes that.
[21:30:22] <JT-Shop> are you running a saved config from 8.04?
[21:30:28] <davidf> hmm... lost a line of input there.
[21:30:54] <JT-Shop> are you running a saved config from 8.04?
[21:31:31] <davidf> I changed "quiet splash" to quiet splash lapic in some file or another
[21:32:00] <davidf> Ah. Yes. good call. Let me try a fresh one.
[21:32:35] <JT-Shop> you just need to change one line
[21:33:00] <JT-Shop> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING
[21:33:25] <JT-Shop> 1.1
[21:33:49] <davidf> JT-Shop, SIM runs fine. Thanks, I'll check that link now.
[21:34:10] <JT-Shop> 1.1 is your problem you only have to delete one line from your ini file
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[21:39:33] <hal> first time on a chat, is there a conversation going on I can view?
[21:39:42] <davidf> JT-Shop, Thanks, that did the trick. I'm really frustrated that I couldn't find that info myself. How on earth do you find those links?
[21:39:51] <JT-Shop> logger[psha]: log
[21:40:31] <JT-Shop> davidf: from looking many times at them
[21:40:46] <JT-Shop> hal: the log stores all the conversations
[21:41:07] <JT-Shop> davidf: what type of machine do you have?
[21:41:41] <davidf> But I went on the official site, clicked documentation, as well as several other things, and never came across that. Where is it and why is it so hard for me to find needed info?
[21:42:12] <davidf> I have a mini lathe 7 x 12 and a Taig mill.
[21:42:17] <JT-Shop> there is more information on the wiki about upgrades than anywhere else
[21:42:29] <JT-Shop> have you seen ngcgui?
[21:42:51] <JT-Shop> I use it 95% of the time on my Hardinge lathe to generate programs in seconds
[21:43:53] <JT-Shop> I'll add a link on the Documents page for upgrading
[21:44:46] <tom3p> JT-Shop, thx
[21:45:16] <JT-Shop> http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/view/5/5/lang,english/
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[21:45:58] <davidf> Thanks. I just noticed the page index link on the wiki home page. I never thought to click that before. I was looking for some link for troubleshooting that would be complete with all known problems and fixes. There is no such animal is there?
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[21:46:19] * JT-Shop survived the zip line adventure today :)
[21:46:59] <davidf> have not seen ngcgui.
[21:47:07] <JT-Shop> davidf: there is some troubleshooting in the Getting Started Guide but it doesn't cover updating
[21:47:28] <JT-Shop> davidf: http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,showcat/catid,40/lang,english/
[21:47:59] <JT-Shop> look at embedding ngcgui... dang I need some screen shots in there
[21:48:32] <JT-Shop> and I need to fix my NTP subroutine too :/
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[21:55:39] <davidf> JT-Shop, thanks for telling me about ngcgui. I found the docs page for it. I'll look into that when I get time. Looks very useful.
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[22:00:33] <JT-Shop> your welcome, I couldn't live without it anymore it saves me so much time on the lathe
[22:09:14] <davidf> JT-Shop, In m66, is the Q-word timeout parameter in seconds, or what unit? Docs don't say.
[22:10:35] <JT-Shop> seconds
[22:10:40] <davidf> thx
[22:11:07] <JT-Shop> I'll fix that omission
[22:11:17] <davidf> Only times I've needed a pause, I just used M0 and hit S to resume.
[22:11:45] <JT-Shop> I use it on my plasma cutter to wait for a arc ok signal from the Hypertherm
[22:12:00] <davidf> I see.
[22:12:03] <JT-Shop> G4 is the normal pause
[22:12:20] <JT-Shop> G4 P[seconds]
[22:12:59] <JT-Shop> brb
[22:13:31] <davidf> Right, but I mean when I want the program to wait till I've set up a fixture or added stock, etc.
[22:14:18] <davidf> Gotta go. Thanks for your help and all your hard work.
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[22:20:14] <hal> this irc thing is pretty cool. have to go, i'll be back. thanks for being here.
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