#emc | Logs for 2011-07-24

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[00:28:53] <IG-garage> huh, can't find the place on my bike to put the accumulator to. It now has no side boxes. This second one turns to dirty cafe racer
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[01:14:55] <alex4nde1> I think the only part of wiring up my Taig that's going to suck, is placing the limit switches.
[01:17:04] <IG-garage> why?
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[02:20:05] <ktchk> Hi kimk..
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[02:35:02] <KimK> ktchk: Hi back, how are you?
[02:37:35] <Tom_itx> hey
[02:39:07] <KimK> Hey, Tom_itx, what's up, anything?
[02:39:48] <Tom_itx> not much
[02:40:14] <Tom_itx> need to make a batch of boards but i'm kickin back right now
[02:49:36] <Jymmm> If anyone cares... Yes, a washer and dryer WILL fit in the back of a Ford Expediton =)
[02:50:27] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: got a moment?
[02:52:32] <Tom_itx> oh i suppose
[02:53:05] <Tom_itx> don't feel like working really so, shoot
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[03:03:11] <KimK> Jymmm: Was it Jay Leno that joked about the Ford "Subdivision"?
[03:03:31] <Jymmm> KimK: ?
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[03:06:26] <danimal_garage> yay, finally got my machine out of the van
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[03:40:07] <ktchk> Hi kimk
[03:58:38] <KimK> Hi ktchk, back again?
[04:00:30] <ktchk> yes
[04:00:43] <ktchk> did you receive my email?
[04:09:11] <KimK> Yes I did, but I wasn't sure what to do. I don't think I've ever used ibus (ibus ime?), so I wasn't sure what to do.
[04:09:12] <ktchk> sorry have to go
[04:09:25] <KimK> OK, maybe tomorrow.
[04:09:38] <ktchk> thanks
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[13:43:48] * anonimasu yawns
[13:45:30] * Loetmichel is happy that the pain is gone... why didnt i get the 2 thomapyrin this morning instead of a few minutes ago? would have spared me 6 hours of pain in the right arm and the neck
[13:46:46] <Loetmichel> ($me is breeding something: yesterday 39°C fever, body aching all over, today 37,8°c and "only" the right side in pain... :-(
[13:46:47] <Jymmm> Asprin?
[13:47:08] <Loetmichel> no, thomapyrin, paracetamol+ coffein IIRC
[13:47:54] <Jymmm> It's showing asprin as a primary ingrediant
[13:48:42] <Loetmichel> is it?
[13:48:49] <Loetmichel> so i stand corrected
[13:48:51] <anonimasu> it's aspirin
[13:49:08] <Jymmm> analgesics with acetyl salicylic acid, paracetamol and caffeine
[13:49:25] <anonimasu> only paracetamol in that one tho
[13:49:28] <Loetmichel> Tablette von Thomapyrin Classic Schmerztabletten enthält:
[13:49:28] <Loetmichel> 250 mg Acetylsalicylsäure (Ph. Eur.)
[13:49:28] <Loetmichel> 200 mg Paracetamol
[13:49:28] <Loetmichel> 50 mg Coffein
[13:49:38] <Loetmichel> ah, we are both right ;)
[13:50:03] <Jymmm> Paracetamol (acetaminophen) == Tylenol
[13:50:15] <Loetmichel> may be
[13:50:24] <Jymmm> I've never heard of asprin AND tylenol being combined before.
[13:50:32] <anonimasu> me neither
[13:50:36] <Jymmm> tyloenol and codene, sure
[13:50:41] <Jymmm> (sp)
[13:50:43] <anonimasu> I've heard of codeine and random stuff opioids but never that
[13:50:55] <Loetmichel> works like a charm for body/muscle ace
[13:50:58] <Loetmichel> ache
[13:51:03] <Jymmm> Yeah, strange. Loetmichel be sure to eat food with that
[13:51:19] <Loetmichel> i did.
[13:51:23] <Loetmichel> but why?
[13:51:38] <anonimasu> because acetylsalicylic acid is not healthy for the stomach
[13:51:41] <Jymmm> will muck up your stoamche
[13:51:44] <Loetmichel> ah
[13:51:47] <Loetmichel> i know
[13:52:02] <Jymmm> anonimasu: the tylenol too
[13:52:36] <anonimasu> yeah, but not as rapidly
[13:52:40] <Loetmichel> but like my sergenant at the Navy said: my stomach HAS to be clad with armor, seeing what i eat ;-)
[13:52:42] <Jymmm> true
[13:53:21] * anonimasu installs build-deps
[13:53:30] <anonimasu> I wonder if this servo will explde.
[13:55:21] <anonimasu> it's entirely possible
[13:55:21] <anonimasu> :)
[13:56:51] * anonimasu looks at the 100uf 450V capcaitor for the power supply
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[13:57:08] <Loetmichel> bah, that is so deprimating: i wanted do clean up my mess hre so i can put the CNC back from the car where it belongs. now the weekend is almost gone and i am still in no condition to work...
[13:57:38] <Loetmichel> bet: tomorrow morning when i have to go to work i am absolutely fine ...
[13:58:20] <Loetmichel> s/ deprimating/depressing
[13:59:22] <anonimasu> no discharge resistors :S
[14:01:18] <Loetmichel> anonimasu: i had a 1000W Stage halogen bulb for discharging the capacitors of SPSes in the Power Amplifiers
[14:02:23] <Loetmichel> and the amplifiers had about 16* 5800uF @ 163V ;-)
[14:03:05] <Loetmichel> <- was a repair technican fpr a stage rental company some time ago.
[14:04:51] <anonimasu> I shorted the 500v cap at the big mill when I were working with the vfd
[14:04:59] <anonimasu> it was cool :D
[14:05:27] <Loetmichel> loud bang?
[14:05:28] <Tom_itx> not so good for the cap
[14:05:28] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[14:05:41] <anonimasu> very loud
[14:05:51] <anonimasu> well, rather that then kill myself accidentally
[14:05:52] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: if its noch flash cap: you are right
[14:06:02] <Loetmichel> -ch
[14:06:29] <Tom_itx> no reason for it to be in that application
[14:06:38] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: right
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[14:07:09] <anonimasu> yep
[14:07:18] <anonimasu> well, probably from once it wont die.
[14:07:22] <Tom_itx> next time use your tongue to discharge it
[14:07:24] <Loetmichel> i shortet this one @ 80V lately: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=7489
[14:07:31] <Loetmichel> accidently
[14:07:38] <Jymmm> LICK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:08:00] <Loetmichel> BIG mang and the 4mm screwdriver was COMPLETELY gone!
[14:08:25] <anonimasu> I used a 15 mm one :)
[14:08:37] <anonimasu> it's only 10 in the place where the discharge took place
[14:10:13] <Loetmichel> the cap is for my next CNC
[14:10:49] <Loetmichel> i will use some E240 DC servos, so the PSU shoud be @ aout 80V 20A...
[14:11:08] <Loetmichel> i think it will be sufficient to get clean DC ;-)
[14:11:21] <Tom_itx> maybe better off with a few smaller ones
[14:11:39] <Loetmichel> why?
[14:11:44] <Tom_itx> better esr
[14:11:52] <Loetmichel> ESR should be faily low
[14:12:37] <Loetmichel> if i remember the datasheet correctly
[14:13:30] <Loetmichel> it is intended use is for the car "hifi" guys, to buffer their oversized amplifiers.
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[14:28:52] <pcw_home> anonimasu: looks at the 100uf 450V capcaitor for the power supply
[14:28:54] <pcw_home> for 8I20 with 22A peak motor 100 uF is nowhere near enough (dVdT is 50V/mS with 5A primary draw and 100 uF)
[14:29:46] <anonimasu> pcw_home: you gave me the wrong firmware :S
[14:30:05] <pcw_home> How so?
[14:30:10] <anonimasu> one second
[14:30:20] <anonimasu> [158835.165354] hm2/hm2_7i43.0: board has FPGA '3s200tq144', but the firmware in hm2/7i43/ssst8_4b.bit is for FPGA '3s400tq144'
[14:30:52] <pcw_home> Oh I thought you had a 7I43-U
[14:31:14] <anonimasu> that's the number my mailà says that it was replaced with
[14:31:46] <anonimasu> it's got a usb port but the small fpga..
[14:31:58] <anonimasu> pcw_home: how big do you need to draw the full 22a?
[14:32:42] <pcw_home> You would not expect the primary to ever draw 22A (~7KW)
[14:33:16] <anonimasu> err, better phrase it like this, my transformer is at 6A
[14:33:32] <anonimasu> and I dont expect to pull max out of the motor
[14:33:34] <pcw_home> 6A at 220V?
[14:33:46] <anonimasu> yes
[14:34:50] <anonimasu> it was the biggest transformer avaiable without special ordering one
[14:34:57] <pcw_home> so thats ~1320w at the motor continuous
[14:35:31] <pcw_home> (for on motor) Thats really big for a servo
[14:35:49] <anonimasu> yeah, they are 1.9kw continous
[14:36:23] <pcw_home> But since they are rated for higher voltage you wont get their full power
[14:36:41] <anonimasu> http://ah.io23.net/ul/files/servos01.jpg
[14:37:06] <pcw_home> How big a machine?
[14:38:38] <anonimasu> http://www.wotol.com/images/thumbs/800x800/186706_49a1ca5b4461c4f6b2316a83859742d4.jpg
[14:39:13] <anonimasu> a denford easiturn 3 cnc
[14:39:22] <pcw_home> Anyway , your primary draw will depends on how much power out are really getting out of the motors I doubt that you can use more than 500 W total on that Lathe
[14:39:49] * anonimasu nods
[14:39:59] <pcw_home> (as long as the motors are not being a spindle)
[14:40:40] <anonimasu> no, they are only for using as axis motors
[14:41:41] <anonimasu> i bought 9 of them on a auction a while ago :)
[14:43:06] <pcw_home> Anyway a WAG value of capacitance is 1000-5000 uF depending on how far you push things
[14:43:08] <pcw_home> You may also want to lower the peak current so you dont break something
[14:43:47] <anonimasu> I see
[14:46:24] <pcw_home> What were the original servos?
[14:46:47] <anonimasu> nema 34 steppers
[14:48:11] <anonimasu> what should I do about the firmware?
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[15:03:05] <IG-garage> heh, my second motorcycle has IKOV (a carburetor), so i was about to assemble it to my altogether with standard air filter, and use another carburetor and custom air filter for it. But couldn't unscrew one of four bolts. Steel to aluminum, hard to reach it, and as a result - problem.
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[15:03:35] <pcw_home> I'll make a new bitfile Monday
[15:04:47] <IG-garage> Damn machine will look like snakecharmer, despite the high handlebar and widgets, to which a lot of standard wires come up (and I want to leave certain things standard in the bike).
[15:05:48] <anonimasu> pcw_home: you know, i'll wait for the 5i2? to arrive instead
[15:06:04] <anonimasu> it should be here tuesday or wednesday
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[15:22:49] <Fox_Muldr> is it possible to show the content of a variable within axis? for example i want to know which value is stored in #5063 after using "G38.2 Z0 F10"
[15:27:22] <archivist> Fox_Muldr, (debug, rest of comment) are the same as comments like (msg, rest of comment) with the addition of special handling for parameters.
[15:27:37] <geo01005> anybody on right now familiar with electronic gearing?
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[15:28:43] <Fox_Muldr> archivist: so something like (msg, #5063) in mdi mode could work?
[15:28:55] <archivist> tias
[15:29:58] <archivist> geo01005, ask the real question
[15:31:23] <geo01005> I just put a step dir servo on my lathe lead screw to replace my manual gear change box.
[15:32:00] <geo01005> I would like to be able to change gear ratios without changing the ini or hal file, (ie with a knob). I'm not sure the best way to do that,.
[15:32:26] <geo01005> archivist: what components do you use for hobbing etc.?
[15:32:47] <archivist> see http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode_main.html#G33,%20G33.1%20Spindle-Synchronized%20Motion
[15:33:50] <archivist> geo01005, I used to use a real hobbing machine (with gears), andypugh has done hobbing on his lathe
[15:34:23] <geo01005> ahh, I thought you had done some hobbing on your 5 axis.
[15:34:26] <archivist> I mill gears but most of that is just sensible gcode
[15:35:43] <archivist> one day I may/will mod a hobbing machine I have here at home, but its for tiny gears
[15:36:17] <geo01005> I have it working right now, but I have to change my gear ratio in the hal file, I have some thoughts about how to change in real time, perhaps the encoderratio comp.
[15:39:31] <archivist> use g33 and its live as needed
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[15:40:30] <archivist> when Im milling a worm I cheat and use g1 and encode enough degrees for the A axis
[15:40:53] <archivist> so many ways :)
[15:42:25] <geo01005> that would work, but I'm trying to leave this a manual machine with a emc, or just hal, running as the gearbox. Perhaps some day I'll get around to doing a whole cnc conversion on it. but I need a quick change tool post before I do that.
[15:43:54] <archivist> qc or toolchanger is essential for a cnc lathe
[15:44:16] <geo01005> yes, otherwise I can do most of it faster manually.
[15:44:38] <archivist> I would tend to stick manual anyway for a lot of stuff
[15:45:18] <archivist> cnc takes too long for one offs
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[15:46:57] <geo01005> although ngcgui along with the right subroutines could be very handy.
[15:47:56] <geo01005> Sort of like a hass tool room cnc lathe.
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[15:49:42] <geo01005> well I think that I will cobble some stuff together in hal with some sample and hold, scale and some other things to make my application work.
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[16:56:23] <danimal_garage> morning
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[17:16:11] <JT-Shop> morning Dan
[17:16:39] <JT-Shop> I just finished stuffing 10lb of spicy snack sticks
[17:16:43] <IchGuckLive> Hi JT-Shop
[17:16:51] <JT-Shop> hi IchGuckLive
[17:17:02] <IchGuckLive> weather still hot
[17:17:05] <JT-Shop> man I gotta put a power assist on the stuffer
[17:17:12] <JT-Shop> yea, too hot
[17:17:43] <IchGuckLive> i see Rain on NY seaside webcams
[17:19:03] <JT-Shop> Poplar Bluff MO Heat Index: 107 °F (42 °C)
[17:19:52] <IchGuckLive> not good for the coolers ,envierment also all AC running
[17:20:50] <JT-Shop> glad I'm well sealed up and insulated so AC don't run much even when hot
[17:21:19] <IchGuckLive> B)
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[17:25:08] * JT-Shop wanders in for a nap
[17:25:15] <Tom_sbc> already?
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[17:26:19] <JT-Shop> It's more work making 10lbs of snack sticks than making 100lbs :/
[17:26:34] <JT-Shop> with the get all the equipment out and clean up
[17:26:44] <JT-Shop> so I'm pooped now
[17:27:00] <Tom_itx> well, i'm sittin down to stuff some boards for the oven
[17:27:09] <Tom_itx> been puttin it off as long as i can
[17:27:32] <JT-Shop> neat, come back at 3pm and I'll fire up the smoker
[17:27:41] <Tom_itx> got the solder paste on em
[17:27:51] <IchGuckLive> Question : i got alot of mails for the minimill drawings so i woudt like to publish the drawings complete to the wiki page
[17:27:54] <Tom_itx> now for the tedious part of stuffing the components
[17:28:08] <IchGuckLive> if you agree this where is the best place to put this
[17:29:47] <IchGuckLive> is our wiki page down ?
[17:29:55] <cradek> yes
[17:30:17] <IchGuckLive> not good or developing reason
[17:33:39] <danimal_garage> morning John
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[17:35:26] <IchGuckLive> cradek: what timetable to restart the page ?
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[17:38:04] <cradek> sorry, I don't have the information to answer that.
[17:39:15] <IchGuckLive> NP
[17:39:35] <IchGuckLive> i hope soomeone nows about this and trys to fix it
[17:40:30] <danimal_garage> i'll alert the president
[17:42:02] <IchGuckLive> i dont think obama can Fix this O.O
[17:42:31] <danimal_garage> He said he's on it
[17:42:57] <danimal_garage> he just called Al Gore, he's in charge of the interwebs
[17:44:26] <danimal_garage> cranking up the knee on the Bridgeport is always a good workout
[17:44:41] <Tom_itx> good to know the buck has been passed
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[17:45:13] <IchGuckLive> his friend Zuckerburg will do it
[17:45:38] <anonimasu> the encoder boards dosent work properly...
[17:45:39] <anonimasu> :/
[17:46:45] <anonimasu> crap.
[17:47:43] <danimal_garage> bummer
[17:48:00] <danimal_garage> broken, or incompatible?
[17:48:01] <anonimasu> gotta get the adapter for programming
[17:48:11] <anonimasu> the filtering is not set up on the inputs i guess
[17:49:08] <danimal_garage> ah, getting a bad count?
[17:50:01] <anonimasu> yes
[17:50:31] <danimal_garage> what are they, resolver to encoder boards?
[17:54:49] <anonimasu> encoder
[17:54:59] <alex4nde1> hey
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[17:58:21] <danimal_garage> are your wires far enough away from any ac power? Especially the spindle?
[17:58:24] <danimal_garage> hi
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[17:58:57] <alex4nder> danimal_garage: how's it?
[17:59:37] <danimal_garage> not too bad, yourself?
[17:59:55] <alex4nder> I'm good,..researching CAM software
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[18:00:46] <danimal_garage> cool
[18:01:05] <danimal_garage> i'm trying to wrap up the spindle mount for my little desktop machine
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[18:06:39] <anonimasu> danimal_garage: the issue is that I cant configure the amp of my chips I think
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[18:08:07] <anonimasu> or that I need to run my inputs as single ended
[18:08:49] * Tom_itx gives anonimasu a pile of 680 ohm resistors
[18:09:48] <anonimasu> hehe
[18:09:50] <anonimasu> I solved that part
[18:09:52] <anonimasu> for the mesa stuff
[18:09:57] <anonimasu> but now it's the ext boards
[18:09:57] <alex4nder> danimal_garage: nice.. what spindle are you going for?
[18:10:04] <danimal_garage> emc has a filter parameter for the encoders
[18:10:11] <danimal_garage> it's a secret one
[18:10:25] <danimal_garage> alex4nder: just a Bosch Colt router
[18:10:49] <danimal_garage> nothing fancy, it's just for engraving
[18:11:16] <alex4nder> cool
[18:11:25] <alex4nder> danimal_garage: what do you use for CAD/CAM on your mill?
[18:11:27] <anonimasu> danimal_garage: it's external stuff it's a interpolator ic
[18:12:39] <danimal_garage> alex4nder: mastercam x3
[18:13:48] * anonimasu wishes he had a dsp to do conversion on he's own
[18:14:12] <alex4nder> cool
[18:15:57] <danimal_garage> dsp?
[18:17:50] <Tom_itx> digital signal processor
[18:17:55] <alex4nder> danimal_garage: what type of workholding do you use primarily? all I have is one of Taig's mini-vises.
[18:18:56] <danimal_garage> since i make my own products i have fixtures for everything
[18:19:15] <danimal_garage> i use a 6" Kurt vice for other machining though
[18:21:21] <alex4nder> cool
[18:22:43] <syyl> almost finished it :D
[18:22:44] <syyl> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/CIMG0765.JPG
[18:22:49] <syyl> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/CIMG0766.JPG
[18:23:23] <syyl> just add a stepper, and *tada* got a rotary axis
[18:24:43] <syyl> today i machined the t-slots...that was a pretty wild setup
[18:24:49] <syyl> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/CIMG0764.JPG
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[18:27:19] <danimal_garage> sweet!
[18:27:23] <danimal_garage> looks good man
[18:32:54] <Tom_itx> what diameter is that?
[18:33:11] <syyl> 80mm
[18:33:59] <Tom_itx> the body is stationary?
[18:34:08] <syyl> jep
[18:34:17] <syyl> it will be clamped in a big block
[18:35:12] <danimal_garage> how will you deal with backlash?
[18:35:40] <syyl> theres a harmonic drive inside..
[18:35:57] <syyl> it has -for my money- no backlash
[18:36:06] <Tom_itx> why did you decide on slots over collets or some other holding fixture?
[18:36:19] <syyl> with the slots i am more flexible
[18:36:29] <syyl> i can mount a flange type collet chuck
[18:36:33] <syyl> or a real chuck
[18:36:39] <syyl> or a small grinding vice
[18:37:13] <syyl> or angle plate with a vice on it
[18:37:23] <syyl> and as a bonus, tslots look cool :D
[18:37:24] <danimal_garage> or a small squirrel
[18:37:27] <syyl> jep
[18:37:53] <Tom_itx> the threaded holes in the end for the pulley?
[18:38:25] <syyl> wait, i got a cross section
[18:39:00] <syyl> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/rundachse_5.jpg
[18:39:21] <syyl> on the threaded holes, there is the harmonic drive mounted
[18:40:54] <Tom_itx> nice job
[18:42:10] <syyl> thanks :)
[18:42:16] <syyl> i do what i can :D
[18:43:27] <danimal_garage> i love having a cnc
[18:43:50] <danimal_garage> makes life easier
[18:43:57] <syyl> a bit :D
[18:44:31] * anonimasu sighs
[18:44:44] <anonimasu> looks like I need to configure the boards with a $pecial adapter
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[18:49:40] <anonimasu> syyl: homebrew harmonic drive?
[18:50:01] <syyl> no, got it from ebay taiwan
[18:50:21] <syyl> taiwan?
[18:50:33] <syyl> thailand of course
[18:50:35] * anonimasu is so angry at the sin/cos converter chips
[18:51:03] <anonimasu> :(
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[19:45:21] <danimal_garage> spindle is mounted, now time for lunch!
[19:47:56] <syyl> time for a cold beer
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[19:53:54] <danimal_garage> that comes with lunch
[19:54:17] <danimal_garage> sometimes even breakfast
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[21:05:55] <aggrav8d> hi, emc. EMC claims it's moving the CNC but the powered CNC just sits there, unmoving.
[21:06:08] <aggrav8d> how can I diagnose where the problem is? the last time I turned it on everything was fine.
[21:10:29] <aggrav8d> I'm getting power to all drivers and steppers. the PC is running fine with EMC2. I'm just not getting any signal.
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[21:13:35] <danimal_garage> are you getting step and direction signals to the drives?
[21:19:15] <aggrav8d> not sure.
[21:21:12] <aggrav8d> how can i test? I used a multimeter to watch for a signal change from the controller to the drivers but i couldn't see any.
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[21:34:39] <JT-Shop> are the steppers warm and holding position?
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[21:35:12] <aggrav8d> yes
[21:40:51] <JT-Shop> so you know your drives have power now... do you have led's on the inputs or some other visual clue if the direction pin is changing?
[21:43:56] <aggrav8d> nope.
[21:44:10] <aggrav8d> i don't have an oscilliscope, either.
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[21:51:06] <anonimasu> the meter should be enough
[21:51:21] <anonimasu> can your multimeter measure frequency
[21:51:22] <anonimasu> ?
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[21:54:07] <aggrav8d> probably. I'm not very adept with it yet.
[21:54:08] <aggrav8d> how?
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[21:55:08] <JT-Shop> easiest thing to spot is the direction pin to see if it changes
[21:55:18] <Tom_itx> or an led
[21:56:38] <anonimasu> aggrav8d: if you have a HZ button
[21:57:09] <anonimasu> sometimes the multimeter inputs are too slow to see a step train, but you are usually able to measure with frequency instead then
[21:57:31] <anonimasu> (when you have a autoranging meter they flip ranges which make them a bit slow)
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[21:58:08] <anonimasu> http://ah.io23.net/ul/files/IMAG1540.jpg
[21:58:21] <anonimasu> nice and clean and prepared for manually making motor mounts
[21:59:08] <aggrav8d> i don't have autoranging
[21:59:17] <anonimasu> what brand is your meter?
[21:59:48] <anonimasu> then you probably dont have frequency either, as thats on the digital ones
[22:00:01] <anonimasu> so, look for the direction pin
[22:01:24] <anonimasu> Tom_itx: the twin machine for the one im converting later :)
[22:01:55] <Tom_itx> is that for hobbing?
[22:02:54] <anonimasu> no
[22:02:59] <anonimasu> it's a horizontal spindle
[22:03:00] <aggrav8d> i'll try the hz thing
[22:03:07] <anonimasu> iso 30
[22:06:22] <toastydeath> man, it's always weird seeing a 30 taper
[22:06:36] <toastydeath> it's like "what the fuck is this" for a second
[22:07:42] <anonimasu> I want iso50.
[22:08:20] <anonimasu> and 26kw spindle power..
[22:09:10] <anonimasu> so I can run the seco 400mm facemills :D
[22:09:49] <Tom_itx> that's alot of inserts
[22:10:29] <toastydeath> i am used to 50 taper
[22:10:51] <Tom_itx> most of ours were 40 and 50 taper
[22:10:52] <toastydeath> it sucks having to load 30 tools in a big machine though
[22:11:14] <Tom_itx> oh to have those problems again
[22:12:23] <Tom_itx> the big okuma had a cage on the backside you could load them into the belt instead of the spindle
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[22:31:34] <aggrav8d> ok, i got my multimeter. how do you say I should use this thing?
[22:39:06] <aggrav8d> looks like the documentation doesn't say anything about frequency. I have a victor 890c+
[22:39:08] <Tom_itx> if it has frequency on it, test the pwm pin
[22:39:32] <Tom_itx> test the V on the direction pin
[22:39:46] <aggrav8d> would the F on my multimeter be frequency? I see no Hz.
[22:40:01] <Tom_itx> not sure
[22:40:33] <aggrav8d> http://www.leeselectronic.com/product_info.php?products_id=9485&osCsid=vcg9tk767rr2kh6k8msqkm9po2
[22:41:20] <Tom_itx> temp maybe?
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[22:45:18] <jthornton> aggrav8d: anything change since it ran last?
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[22:49:10] <aggrav8d> I took all the wood out of the storage under the machine and installed a new leg to level the table better. ...but the electronics weren't touched.
[22:49:42] <jthornton> pull anything loose while doing that?
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[22:50:58] <aggrav8d> no. I rechecked the connections. everything between the LPT wire to the servos.
[22:51:06] <aggrav8d> and the PC runs fine and the LPT plugs into that.
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[22:51:39] <Tom_itx> might check for a broken wire somewhere
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[22:52:20] <aggrav8d> i have been. every driver has power, I see nothing broken, and my multimeter doesn't pick up on any breaks.
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[22:54:47] <jthornton> do you have a breakout board?
[23:00:04] <aggrav8d> for the controller, yes.
[23:00:24] <aggrav8d> i've tried testing at each pin while jogging the machine. nothing.
[23:00:55] <aggrav8d> i don't know if it's my multimeter, the controller, the lpt, or me.
[23:01:11] <Tom_itx> double check the bios
[23:01:16] <Tom_itx> for the lpt port
[23:01:26] <jthornton> got any led's?
[23:01:31] <Tom_itx> may as well do the simple things first
[23:01:39] <jthornton> yea
[23:01:49] <Tom_itx> i suggested an led
[23:02:14] <jthornton> I missed that
[23:02:37] <Tom_itx> i had my hopes up today. we actually had a cloud overhead and heard some thunder
[23:02:41] <Tom_itx> all a hoax
[23:02:52] <jthornton> I'd bet it is a blown flux coupling
[23:02:59] <jthornton> we got some rain a while ago
[23:08:42] <aggrav8d> i checked the bios, it hasn't changed. i don't have any LEDs
[23:09:31] <Tom_itx> well use your meter then
[23:09:59] <Tom_itx> look for 'change'
[23:22:12] <aggrav8d> I don't see any.
[23:22:28] <aggrav8d> EMC notices when I tweak a limit switch.
[23:22:44] <Tom_itx> ini files still in tact?
[23:22:50] <Tom_itx> hal files..
[23:23:13] <Tom_itx> check dmesg for the heck of it
[23:24:24] <Tom_itx> check any fuses on the power supply
[23:24:59] <Tom_itx> these are all unlikely but if it were, you would beat yourself up later for not checking
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[23:40:21] <aggrav8d> no fuses
[23:40:35] <aggrav8d> didnt see anything in dmesg
[23:40:46] <aggrav8d> power is good
[23:40:57] <aggrav8d> ini files appear fine
[23:40:58] <Tom_itx> are you using mesa boards?
[23:41:52] <Tom_itx> you should see something in dmesg after running emc if you are i would think
[23:43:19] <aggrav8d> i'm using something from buildyourcnc.com
[23:44:11] <aggrav8d> i've been reviewing http://buildyourcnc.com/CNCElectronicsandWiring.aspx to see if it gives me any hints.
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