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[00:30:00] <TekniQue> http://www.foo.is/albums/misc/IMG_5759.jpg
[00:30:08] <TekniQue> I got my CNC machine assembled again
[00:30:25] <TekniQue> with a new spindle and a new plane
[00:30:53] <Valen> dude resize your images lol
[00:31:15] <TekniQue> so as a test of how good the new spindle is, I traced the outlines of a 1mm font
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[00:36:21] <danimal_garage> how does that test the spindle?
[00:36:49] <danimal_garage> did you have a lot of slop in the old one?
[00:37:08] <TekniQue> yes
[00:37:13] <danimal_garage> ah
[00:37:22] <danimal_garage> cool
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[00:48:24] <toastydeath> how does tracing something test spindle accuracty
[00:50:11] <danimal_garage> how do dogs know it's not bacon?
[00:50:51] <TekniQue> toastydeath: what I was really testing is centricity
[00:50:59] <TekniQue> the old one was not perfectly centered
[00:51:03] <toastydeath> ah
[00:51:07] <TekniQue> so it had trouble making fine lines
[00:58:41] <Valen> what cutter and cut depth are you using?
[01:00:02] <Valen> i've been having some problems engraving
[01:01:12] <TekniQue> 60 degree point router, cut depth is 0.05mm
[01:01:23] <Valen> what ROM?
[01:01:25] <Valen> RPM?
[01:01:36] <TekniQue> 20.000RPM, 30mm/min
[01:02:32] <Valen> thanks
[01:05:50] <TekniQue> and the material is some old aluminum extrusion I had laying around
[01:06:41] <elmo40> TekniQue: what did you use for makiing gcode out of the font?
[01:07:27] <TekniQue> used
http://www.timeguy.com/cradek/truetype
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[01:09:20] <danimal_garage> dangit, my pannel punch is broken, i need to buy a new obe
[01:09:22] <danimal_garage> one*
[01:12:53] <Jymmm> crazy glue it
[01:14:10] <elmo40> JB weld it
[01:15:30] <TekniQue> gaffa tape it
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[01:47:43] <Valen> bah, use epoxy ya bunch of half assed pansies
[01:48:27] <danimal_garage> how about i just go buy a new one
[01:48:35] <danimal_garage> which i did, 5 minutes ago
[01:48:42] <Valen> lol
[01:48:48] <Valen> where do you get yer Ti btw?
[01:49:26] <danimal_garage> various suppliers, whoever's cheapest
[01:49:37] <Valen> also I was noticing the anodising, wouldn't the additional oxide layer coming off into the chain cause wear?
[01:49:55] <danimal_garage> wear to what?
[01:50:03] <Valen> the chain
[01:50:23] <Valen> aluminium oxide is used for sand paper was all I was thinking
[01:50:28] <danimal_garage> the aluminum is the weakest link, not the tensile steel chain
[01:50:33] <Valen> but then Al form an oxide layer anyway
[01:51:14] <danimal_garage> you're overthinking it lol
[01:51:19] <Valen> I was just thinking the little bits of aluminium oxide dust could get into the bushings in the chain was all
[01:52:10] <danimal_garage> probably, along with all the disinegrated granite, dust, water, and other crap we ride through
[01:52:20] <Valen> yeah fair enough lol
[01:52:36] <danimal_garage> :)
[01:52:51] <danimal_garage> they're always anodized, not just mine
[01:52:56] <danimal_garage> i just offer different colors
[01:53:08] <Valen> it'll make them last longer in salt water etc
[01:53:09] <danimal_garage> some even do a class 3 anodizing
[01:53:20] <Valen> have you thought about hard nickel plating the wear surfaces?
[01:54:17] <danimal_garage> na, i just stick to anodizing
[01:55:21] <Valen> a relatively thin plating layer would give it heaps of wear life was all, might be worth investigating for that "edge on the competition" ;->
[01:55:49] <Valen> ooh ooh, and lower friction ;->
[01:57:33] <danimal_garage> why would i want them to last longer? :)
[01:57:57] <Valen> because for a $5 electro plating job you can charge $40 more ;->
[01:57:59] <danimal_garage> they already last longer than anyone else's
[01:58:08] <Valen> and offer the lightest most longest lasting whatsit lol
[01:58:28] <danimal_garage> the aluminum distorts, it'll flake off
[01:58:43] <danimal_garage> most of the chainring "wear" is actually distortion
[01:59:03] <Valen> what causes the distortion?
[01:59:29] <danimal_garage> torque
[02:06:31] <Valen> do you mill the flat bits in your rings?
[02:06:39] <Valen> IE surface the whole thing then mill it
[02:06:44] <Valen> or just use the sheet finins?
[02:06:46] <Valen> finish
[02:07:43] <Valen> i'm just curious about making stuff is all lol, not trying to muscle in on your action
[02:09:55] <danimal_garage> it's sheet
[02:10:17] <danimal_garage> i dont remachine the sides
[02:17:08] <elmo40> would this be good to use as an MPG?
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate
[02:17:42] <toastydeath> that depends on how it handles rapid motion
[02:18:05] <toastydeath> real MPGs are useful because they work identically to handwheels
[02:18:31] <toastydeath> i.e. you turn the mpg 1 rev, and it goes .100"
[02:19:05] <danimal_garage> for that price, i'd rather have a mpg
[02:19:28] <danimal_garage> i got a nice fanuc pendant for the same price
[02:19:55] <elmo40> you did? where?
[02:20:08] <elmo40> I can't find any pendants (in decent shape) for under $150
[02:20:14] <emcrules_mill> I have a couple spares if you want
[02:21:03] <emcrules_mill> and shipping is cheap!!! lol
[02:21:41] <elmo40> lol
[02:21:47] <elmo40> have any pics?
[02:21:54] <elmo40> and how do I connect them :P parport?
[02:22:47] <emcrules_mill> mine are connected thru mesa encoder channel.
[02:23:54] <cradek> elmo40: while that's very shiny, I doubt it's any good compared to an encoder
[02:24:29] <cradek> also with a real encoder, our mpg handling is all realtime, which gives VERY responsive motion. you would be sacrificing that.
[02:24:38] <cradek> for the same money you can get a real handwheel
[02:24:45] <elmo40> I didn't read up on it but I wonder if it has 100 bumps/rev
[02:24:54] <cradek> very unlikely
[02:25:06] <emcrules_mill> elmo40: toss me a case of beer and you can have it
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[02:25:50] <elmo40> Would you settle for a 12-pack of Heineken?
[02:26:55] <emcrules_mill> nice negotiation tactic. sure
[02:28:14] <elmo40> I will toss in a half-filled stamp card for the Marble Slab... 5 more cones and the 6th one is free!
[02:28:15] <elmo40> lol
[02:29:51] <emcrules_mill> and ruin this figure!!! email me and we can arrange pickup.
[02:30:36] <cradek> are you guys near each other?
[02:30:49] <emcrules_mill> 2 blocks
[02:31:44] <cradek> slick
[02:37:26] <emcrules_mill> now i just need motivation to convert my lathe to emc
[02:42:36] <danimal_garage> cradek:
http://www.homebrewedcomponents.com/machine_pics/
[02:42:51] <danimal_garage> made a quick change pallet system for my mill
[02:43:21] <danimal_garage> also a couple pics of the electrical pannel for the mill i'm working on right now
[02:44:10] <elmo40> I am confused, danimal_garage. how does it work?
[02:44:54] <elmo40> we have pallets on our machines at work, just wondering how that one interchanges
[02:44:56] <cradek> same question here
[02:45:26] <danimal_garage> there's 3 ball bearings that are in a cam mechanism and it closes in on that drawbar on the pallets and pulls it down
[02:45:58] <danimal_garage> there's a shcs in the front of the plate that you tighten and that draws the balls in to the drawbar by turning the cam mechanism
[02:46:28] <cradek> do you have a big blanchard grinder or something?
[02:46:29] <danimal_garage> but the shcs is going to be replaced by a lever and some disk washers
[02:46:39] <danimal_garage> i dont, but i have friends that do
[02:46:53] <cradek> yay for friends
[02:47:57] <danimal_garage> the pallets locate on the 2 big pins and sit flat on the 4 smaller pads
[02:48:10] <danimal_garage> it's really solid
[02:48:26] <danimal_garage> and repeats well
[02:48:45] <danimal_garage> i got a bunch of those plates blanchard ground for different fixtures
[02:49:05] <danimal_garage> they're 3/4" thick, 10"x10"
[02:49:12] <cradek> neat
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[03:40:43] <emcrules_mill> Cradek: you around?
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[04:07:45] <UnderSampled> I just stepped on a stepper motor driver, and broke off two 3300uf 50v caps :(
[04:09:54] <elmo40> did you crak the board?
[04:10:53] <UnderSampled> no, thankfully
[04:11:54] <UnderSampled> hopefully it's just going to cost me two $1.50 capacitors plus shipping, and another week before I can test my motors
[04:12:24] <elmo40> a week? no stores in your area?
[04:18:02] <UnderSampled> what stores would carry it?
[04:18:13] <UnderSampled> I looked on radioshack's website, they don't have any
[04:20:37] <elmo40> where do you live?
[04:20:57] <elmo40> and who would ship it in a week?
[04:21:06] <elmo40> the board manufacturer?
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[06:06:37] <Connor> Hey Guys, question.. I'm routing my cables for my computer using a cable arm.. Including the power.. Do you think I need to be worried too much about AC interference on the cables ?
[06:07:22] <Connor> I've got the 2 USB, Video, Parallel, and Cat6 Ethernet in one bundle, and the power cable in the other (but only about 1" distance between them..
[06:08:52] <Connor> Would be nice if I could balance the sides out and put 1/2 of them on one side... Just a little concerned about the interference.. and kinda doubting the 1" spacing would make that much of a difference anyway.
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[06:10:50] <Connor> We're talking about them being parallel for around 2 1/2 to 3 feet
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[06:44:35] <archivist> spikes on the mains lead, possibly add a mains filter on the mains lead before it runs close to the cables
[06:46:08] <Connor> huh?
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[07:12:19] <JustinXJS> Does anyone know if it is possible to move the location of the home button in axis? I bump it from time to time and it would be nice to move it out of the way.
[07:18:28] <archivist> JustinXJS, you mean on the screen or a different key on the keyboard
[07:18:54] <JustinXJS> Location on the screen
[07:21:11] <psha> JustinXJS: in Axis?
[07:21:33] <JustinXJS> psha, yes, in Axis
[07:21:50] <psha> it's possible
[07:21:53] <psha> but not trivial ;)
[07:22:11] <psha> however you may make pyvcp/gladevcp panel you like and use it instead of Manual tab
[07:23:04] <JustinXJS> Ok, I am not much of a programmer but I will look into it
[07:23:24] <JustinXJS> No one else has ever complained about the location of the button?
[07:23:56] <archivist> not that I have noticed
[07:24:32] <psha> JustinXJS: pyvcp/gladevcp panels don't need programming skills
[07:27:24] <JustinXJS> psha, thanks, looking into it right now
[07:31:53] <JustinXJS> looks like that may be a good solution, thanks
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[12:41:49] <cradek_> JustinXJS: in the upcoming emc 2.5, you'll get a warning if you try to home an axis that's already been homed.
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[13:07:09] <cpresser_> cradek: JustinXJS: i am using 2.4.X (the official repository for ubuntu), and it already displays that warning
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[14:00:54] <cradek> cpresser_: oh, ok, I'm off a whole major version
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[14:43:40] <cradek> JustinXJS: another solution is to use the keyboard shortcuts instead of the mouse for manual mode actions - they work better in all ways anyway
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[15:18:58] <JT-Work> psha: was your logger on yesterday?
[15:20:07] <psha> JT-Work: probably yes
[15:20:10] <psha> something missing?
[15:20:14] <psha> logger[psha]: .
[15:20:31] <JT-Work> no I wanted to read back something
[15:20:54] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/irc/%23emc/2011-02-13.html#16:09:01
[15:21:01] <psha> yes, it was logging :)
[15:21:21] <JT-Work> thanks
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[16:18:45] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/panel/electricalbox.jpg
[16:19:32] <Jymmm> If someone ever did a wiring closet like that, I'd fire em.
[16:19:40] <skunkworks> heh
[16:19:49] <Jymmm> (no joke)
[16:19:57] <skunkworks> I am sure
[16:20:59] <skunkworks> this was factory...
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/mainelectricalbox.JPG
[16:21:06] <Jymmm> http://www.rawiriblundell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cablingbefore.jpg
[16:23:09] <Jymmm> http://www.cjcc.com/Images/funny%20picts/wiring%20closet.jpg
[16:24:02] <Jymmm> skunkworks: WTF
http://blogs.yorkschool.com/server-room/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/itguy.jpg
[16:25:06] <Jymmm> skunkworks: BTW... you were NOT suppose to to *COPY* the factory wiring!!!
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[16:29:08] <skunkworks> heh
[16:29:17] <skunkworks> I think we did well with what we had :)
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[16:31:48] <Jymmm> skunkworks: I can tell that wiring isn't your thing. I'd rip it all out and do it over if I was there.
[16:32:07] <Jymmm> I likes me wireing purrty and readable
[16:32:27] <Jymmm> Not this....
http://blogs.yorkschool.com/server-room/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/itguy.jpg
[16:32:31] <pcw_home> The important thing is now that its finished you can close the doors..
[16:32:42] <skunkworks> exactly!
[16:32:43] <skunkworks> ;)
[16:33:21] <Jymmm> just becasue you can close the door and HIDE it all, doesn't mean it needs to stay that way
[16:33:27] <Jymmm> =)
[16:34:33] <pcw_home> Any toilet training issues as a youth Jymmm?
[16:35:07] <Jymmm> pcw_home: WTF?!
[16:39:28] <Jymmm> I've always been really good with wiring. When I worked at Loral we had a (huge) amp that spanned three full racks. It was hand wired using wax string on every bundle. The harnesses were self suspended, and you could visually trace every wire, had perfect 90 degree bends, etc. The most perfect installation I have every seen.
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[16:43:29] <Connor> can anyone comment on my question I posted last night about cables ? I can repost if you don't have it in scroll back buffer..
[16:43:38] <Jymmm> It was such a piece of art, that I strive for that anymore.
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[16:48:41] <Connor> (01:06:32 AM) Connor: Hey Guys, question.. I'm routing my cables for my computer using a cable arm.. Including the power.. Do you think I need to be worried too much about AC interference on the cables ?
[16:48:47] <Connor> (01:07:17 AM) Connor: I've got the 2 USB, Video, Parallel, and Cat6 Ethernet in one bundle, and the power cable in the other (but only about 1" distance between them..
[16:48:52] <Connor> (01:08:47 AM) Connor: Would be nice if I could balance the sides out and put 1/2 of them on one side... Just a little concerned about the interference.. and kinda doubting the 1" spacing would make that much of a difference anyway.
[16:48:59] <Connor> (01:10:45 AM) Connor: We're talking about them being parallel for around 2 1/2 to 3 feet
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[16:50:42] <awallin> is this AC power for the pc? or power-wires for cnc-motors etc?
[16:50:52] <Connor> For the PC.
[16:50:59] <psha> if it's simple 50 Hz AC then don't worry
[16:51:03] <archivist> Connor, I repeat my reply
[16:51:04] <awallin> then I would not be worried
[16:51:04] <Connor> 60
[16:51:15] <Connor> archivist: I didn't understand what you said last night..
[16:51:43] <archivist> mains filter to stop spikes on the mains wire
[16:51:46] <psha> unless you use other cables for some analog 50 hz signals ;)
[16:52:33] <Connor> It's all stock stuff.. 60hz 120V mains.
[16:52:58] <archivist> your mains has a basic frequency plus noise, running a welder can induce spikes
[16:53:51] <Connor> Though, I have to replace the power cord.. the one I choose to use that was nice and flexible, however, I think one of the wires is broken..
[16:54:05] <Connor> It being so flexible is probably why it's broken..
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[18:06:12] <IchGuckLive> Hi all ,Wonderfull day in Germany today
[18:15:15] <atmega> here too, it's sunny andy 20+c here in .nc.us
[18:21:13] <ve7it> rainy and +10C on the west coast of Canada
[18:21:27] <Jymmm> damn canucks
[18:22:12] <ve7it> hey Jymmm ...
[18:22:18] <Jymmm> howdy
[18:22:47] <ve7it> have you tried burning faces on toast with the laser yet?
[18:23:22] <Jymmm> ve7it: I'd hate to have a real qso with you.... you're there for a moment, then gone for days!
[18:23:31] <ve7it> maybe a market for sugar cookies with faces for birthday parties?
[18:23:33] <Jymmm> ve7it: Yep, Jesus on a tortilla!
[18:24:01] <ve7it> yep jesus is big in Mexico!
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[18:26:20] <Jymmm> ve7it: hang on I'll upload a pic
[18:31:32] <Jymmm> ve7it:
http://oi55.tinypic.com/14a9deb.jpg
[18:31:46] <ve7it> nice
[18:32:21] <Jymmm> thanks, did that last night
[18:34:45] <Jymmm> ve7it: I was thinking of doing callsigns like that
[18:35:06] <Jymmm> ve7it: (it's an LED night light)
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[18:35:17] <ve7it> "On the Air -VE7IT"
[18:35:52] <Jymmm> Well, like I said, it's a night light, not "on the air" (not Rf triggered)
[18:36:18] <ve7it> what is the work envelope of the laser?
[18:36:32] <Jymmm> And I don't want to create the circuitry to do that (even though I have the schematic to do so)
[18:37:10] <IchGuckLive> Jymmm: what laser power ß
[18:37:25] <Jymmm> petawatts
[18:37:45] <Jymmm> 30
[18:37:52] <IchGuckLive> i got 30Wat co2
[18:38:06] <Jymmm> ah
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[18:42:25] <davec_> How many LEDs?
[18:44:32] <davec_> Will just one illuminating a sign like that make a hot stripe, or will the light bounce around enough for an even illumination?
[18:46:09] <IchGuckLive> Jymmm: did you use Z axis or is it just flat
[18:46:23] <Jymmm> ?
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[18:47:02] <IchGuckLive> you coudt do this with a 5Dollar scanner of a printer
[18:47:26] <IchGuckLive> by moving the Z axis
[18:47:43] <IchGuckLive> so you generat the points of the lines all over
[18:48:28] <IchGuckLive> polygonscanner
[18:49:04] <IchGuckLive> and paperfeed
[18:49:12] <kb8wmc> IchGuckLive: guten tag....
[18:49:26] <IchGuckLive> kb8wmc: -> #cam
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[19:09:04] <IchGuckLive> by for today
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[19:17:28] <JustinXJS> cradek, thanks for the tips, it sounds like the keyboard will be best for now. At some point I would love to get a jog wheel working and that should take care of the problem.
[19:22:37] <cradek> yep, can't beat that
[19:22:44] <cradek> second best is definitely the keyboard
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[19:55:46] <toastydeath> have a pdf of the solutions manual for "Chemistry & Chemical Reactivty," by Kot
[19:55:48] <toastydeath> er
[19:55:57] <toastydeath> take two, does anyone happen to have a pdf of the solutions manual for "Chemistry & Chemical Reactivty," by Kotz, et al?
[19:56:21] <awallin> have some homework to do?
[19:56:23] <cradek> that sure seems like a long shot
[19:56:35] <toastydeath> yeah, the torrent sites don't have it
[19:56:41] <toastydeath> so i figured i'd ask around
[19:56:47] <toastydeath> i have some homework to check, yeah
[19:56:49] <atmega> send me the questions, I'll make up an answer list for you tonight.
[19:57:08] <toastydeath> nah, it's not that important, I'd just like to check a few of these things
[19:57:59] <danimal_garage> any big differences between 2.3.x and 2.4.x?
[19:58:24] <danimal_garage> i just downloaded it, going to install shortly
[19:59:48] <psha> danimal_garage: short anwser is 'yes'
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[20:03:10] <danimal_garage> is there a list somewhere, or do i just find them out as i go?
[20:07:55] <JT-Shop> hi Dan let me find for you
[20:08:27] <JT-Shop> danimal_garage:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Released
[20:08:59] <JT-Shop> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?OldReleases
[20:09:27] <danimal_garage> oh cool, thanks JT-Shop
[20:10:34] <danimal_garage> getting ready to install it now
[20:11:01] <danimal_garage> got a bit of wiring to finish, but the enclosure is going to work out well
[20:11:09] <danimal_garage> plenty of elbow room in there
[20:11:35] <danimal_garage> and everything is pretty well isolated so i shoulsnt have any noise issues
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[20:23:29] <FinboySlick> Anyone here played with EMC2 on ALIX boards?
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[20:26:40] <archivist> I dont remember them being mentioned, first glance they dont look too useful as mini pci and no parport
[20:27:11] <FinboySlick> archivist: The 1D boards have built-in lpt
[20:28:35] <FinboySlick> I'd like to come up with a setup where the GUI would be on an other box.
[20:29:05] <skunkworks> Is it true to say that if you have kins setup for a 4+ axis machine - it would be way easier to program gcode by hand?
[20:29:48] <archivist> skunkworks, I hand code, dunno where we can get any cheap cam for 4+axis
[20:31:03] <skunkworks> do you have kins setup?
[20:31:40] <archivist> nope just standard 3 axis and two rotaries
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[20:35:08] <danimal_garage> any tricks to installing emc with a usb thumb drive?
[20:35:35] <danimal_garage> i put the iso file on the drive but it will not boot from it, even though boot from usb is enabled in the bios
[20:35:54] <danimal_garage> do i have to format it a certain way first or somethnig?
[20:36:42] <JustinXJS> you have to write the image to the thumb drive, much like burning a CD
[20:37:30] <danimal_garage> any software for that?
[20:37:59] <archivist> iirc there was something of a usb thumb howto on the mailing list or wiki cant remember which
[20:38:22] <danimal_garage> i googled it and found some info, i'll read on it
[20:38:24] <danimal_garage> thanks
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[20:41:02] <JustinXJS> danimal_garage, there is a little program called rawrite that I *think* can write the image, be sure you get everything off of it you want to save as you will lose your data
[20:41:55] <danimal_garage> ah ok, thanks!
[20:44:07] <atmega> http://gainesville.craigslist.org/tls/2210254749.html
[20:45:28] <danimal_garage> cute
[20:47:19] <atmega> wonder how much it weighs
[20:47:45] <danimal_garage> 500lbs?
[20:50:01] <atmega> more than I can move around by myself... I was going to be in that general area next w/e
[20:50:41] <skunkworks> danimal_garage: can you boot the emc2 livecd? There is an option under administration called 'startup disk creator' you can point to an iso and create a usb drive
[20:50:55] <cradek> coolness
[20:51:26] <danimal_garage> skunkworks, i dont have a cdrom on that pc
[20:51:34] <danimal_garage> no ide on it either
[20:51:35] <skunkworks> ah
[20:51:37] <FinboySlick> atmega: That's a beautiful little lathe.
[20:51:44] <danimal_garage> hence the need for a usb
[20:52:14] <atmega> do you not have another computer that has a cdrom you can boot from?
[20:52:40] <danimal_garage> yes, but i need to boot from this pc so i can install it
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[20:53:47] <danimal_garage> i already got the image on my usb drive, it's installing now
[20:54:42] <danimal_garage> well it booted anyways
[20:54:48] <atmega> Finboy: it looks much better than my 7x12
[20:54:50] <danimal_garage> we'll see if it installs :)
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[20:55:09] <FinboySlick> atmega: I have a 4400 sherline but it isn't CNC converted yet.
[20:55:35] <atmega> mine either, doesn't really seem worthwhile
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[20:55:48] <FinboySlick> atmega: I sort of spoiled myself a bit on the mill side though.
[20:56:03] <cradek> it's worth it if you want to cut threads
[20:56:16] <Connor> I like the idea of taking a mini lathe and converting it into a 4th axis for a CNC mill (X2 or X3 style)
[20:56:31] <danimal_garage> i'd like to pick up a good 15-18" swing lathe
[20:56:44] <danimal_garage> mine's getting tired, it's probably 100 years old
[20:56:44] <atmega> me too, but that's way too big for my space
[20:57:10] <FinboySlick> Connor: That's a pretty cool idea. It'd probably require servo control on the chuck end though.
[20:57:13] <danimal_garage> yea, i need something in the 40" ranger, those are hard to find with that swing
[20:57:29] <danimal_garage> -r
[20:57:53] <Connor> http://www.hossmachine.info/projects_5.html#4th%20axis
[20:57:55] <Connor> What he did.
[20:58:22] <FinboySlick> Connor: That's pretty awesome.
[20:58:50] <Connor> I like that better than a Lathe with a Mill head attached.. I think those are clumsy to mill with..
[20:59:04] <Connor> But, I don't think that would be too bad to turn stuff down with on the mill..
[20:59:10] <FinboySlick> Connor: I already got a 4th axis with my X5.
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[20:59:23] <FinboySlick> Connor: My problem is learning how to use it ;)
[20:59:34] * FinboySlick is very much a noob.
[20:59:35] <Connor> I'm looking at getting the G0704
[20:59:47] <Connor> and the CNC conversion kit for isn't out yet...
[21:00:10] <atmega> heh... I've ordered a G0704 twice, they keep cancelling and back ordering
[21:00:45] <atmega> even though they are in stock in missouri... they have to ship mine from pennsylvania where they don't have any.
[21:00:45] <Connor> the G0463 looks good too, but, doesn't have a stand.. it does have a CNC conversion kit already..
[21:00:58] <Connor> where you live atmega?
[21:01:04] <atmega> nc.us
[21:01:08] <FinboySlick> Connor: That's a pretty nice mill.
[21:01:17] <atmega> the 0463 is an X3?
[21:01:26] <Connor> Would be the same story for me then.. I'm in TN
[21:02:11] <FinboySlick> Are there ready made profiles for X5 type machines?
[21:02:12] <Connor> Yea.. the 463 is X3. the G0705 is a BF20
[21:02:19] <atmega> actually, they are supposed to be back in stock today
[21:02:53] <atmega> b20 is round column though
[21:03:04] <Connor> I like the Micromarks X2 also.. but.. that G0704 looks too damn good...
[21:03:04] <atmega> bf20
[21:04:06] <Connor> http://www.g0704.com/
[21:05:23] <atmega> heh, I've been through there several times after I first ordered one.
[21:05:28] <danimal_garage> yay its installing
[21:05:39] <atmega> they also raised the price and my grizzly coupon expired since then.
[21:06:16] <Connor> How much was it.. I've been looking at it for months.. has been 995
[21:06:39] <atmega> was $950 and I had a 5% coupon
[21:07:00] <Connor> bah.. Not worth the hassle..
[21:07:48] * atmega tries ordering again
[21:08:27] <Connor> okay, so, X2 size vs X3 size.. Small workshop.. I have a nice 7' x 39" Elevator door for a bench... and even have room for a stand like the G0704..
[21:08:47] <Connor> I can get the Mini now.. or wait a few more months and get the G0704...
[21:09:08] <Connor> I plan to convert to CNC, but, that'll be a while off.
[21:17:10] <Connor> Hmm.. the Z-Axis conversion doesn't look like it would be bad for the G0704, you could use the Z screw from the top, or maybe put the stepper in place of the hand crank ?
[21:17:38] <atmega> so, the order is in once again... I also emailed Laura and asked her to knock the $50 off and give me my 5% again.
[21:18:45] <atmega> I think Hoss's original Z mod was driving the existing screw from the top
[21:19:07] <Connor> that's what I would do..
[21:19:11] <atmega> He's got tons of youtube videos of it
[21:19:19] <atmega> including some 200ipm aluminum cuts
[21:20:08] <atmega> I think the 704 is a BF20, the 705 is an RF20
[21:20:10] <Connor> That the X2 your thinking of ?
[21:20:18] <atmega> nope
[21:20:35] <Connor> yea. 704 is the BF20.. if I typed 705, it was a typo.
[21:21:39] <atmega> 150 ipm maybe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHQv1bsLhfs
[21:22:22] <atmega> short stroke, might not even finish accelerating
[21:23:45] <atmega> time to go see who still has flowers available
[21:31:20] <Connor> What's the deal with having gas springs on the Z Axis ?
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[21:44:40] <danimal_garage> everyone's out buying flowers
[21:44:46] <danimal_garage> almost makes me glad i'm single
[21:45:06] <awallin_> did you check the oatmeal site?
[21:45:37] <danimal_garage> me?
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[21:52:50] <awallin_> http://theoatmeal.com/blog/valentines_day
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[23:08:03] <alex_joni> https://www.surplex.com/de/maschinen/ansicht,7,posten-messuhren-100660.html?auction_id=158&lotnr=77
[23:09:29] <alex_joni> and someone was recently looking for a vise iirc:
https://www.surplex.com/de/maschinen/ansicht,7,type-705-rs-maschinenschraubstock-100619.html?auction_id=158&lotnr=36
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[23:40:53] <JT-Shop> that sheet of OSB I was looking for
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Shop%20Addition/P2140004.jpg
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