#emc | Logs for 2011-01-17

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[00:00:05] <Valen> I'm sure what your saying is english ;-P
[00:00:23] <frallzor> bbq-related
[00:00:27] <frallzor> smoking
[00:00:30] <frallzor> ya know
[00:00:35] <JT-Shop> smoker actually
[00:00:44] <Valen> heh yeah I get ya somewhat
[00:01:01] <frallzor> odd thing for me to mill though :P
[00:01:21] <JT-Shop> the Bradley smoker uses biscuit shaped hardwoods to make smoke for the smoker
[00:01:36] <frallzor> we lost him
[00:01:38] <JT-Shop> yea, I make them on my lathe then drill the holes on the mill
[00:01:44] <JT-Shop> who?
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[00:01:56] <frallzor> ah youre back from smokers :P
[00:02:01] <frallzor> thought we lost you there
[00:02:07] <Valen> off to do a bit
[00:02:08] <Valen> ttyl
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[00:03:21] <frallzor> so what to machine....
[00:03:33] <frallzor> my lack of imagination scares me
[00:04:02] <frallzor> im about to do my bloody master thesis project too :P
[00:04:03] <cradek> try making the best 1" cube you can
[00:04:17] <JT-Shop> in mm
[00:04:27] <cradek> try making the best 25.4mm cube you can
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[00:04:33] <frallzor> with 20mm alu? :P
[00:04:44] <frallzor> I see fail allready
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[00:04:58] <JT-Shop> the machinist challenge!
[00:05:08] <JT-Shop> have you seen that?
[00:05:33] <frallzor> I allready have challenge in my near future so I dont need more of those :P
[00:05:42] <frallzor> *a
[00:05:54] <JT-Shop> make some puzzles
[00:07:40] * JT-Shop tries to get some accurate measurements on an inaccurate cast part to make a replacement :/
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[00:11:46] <frallzor> screw this, im cadding instead :P
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[00:23:34] <jrshaul> Has anyone here had any experience on getting inside right angles using a CNC router?
[00:24:09] <jrshaul> I know there's a few different options including using a 1/8" endmill or mortising attachments, but I'm curious as to which people here have tried.
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[00:27:12] <JT-Shop> an inside sharp 90° is tough to do
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[00:32:01] <jrshaul> JT-Shop: Yep.
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[01:58:55] <MndlbldWorshop> hey
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[09:31:04] <Valen> ey pcw_home if your about mesanet.com is down
[09:39:54] <Valen> all working again
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[09:57:48] <Valen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frIssODebKA upgraded speed
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[11:25:29] <elmo40> Valen: nice speed :)
[11:25:40] <Valen> scary speed i tells ya lol
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[12:14:59] <jthornton> my BP can cut at 200IPM and rapid at 472IPM but the spindle is limited to 6000 RPM... it is real scary to watch a facing mill fly down to within 0.050 of the vise jaws at 472IPM
[12:23:09] <psha[work]> jthornton: good morning
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[12:50:36] <jthornton> psha[work]: hi
[12:54:56] <jthornton> I saw the html page yesterday it looked nice
[12:57:31] <psha[work]> which one?
[12:57:53] <psha[work]> i've generated lot of pages, via wiki or directly recently :)
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[12:58:19] <jthornton> LOL the last one I saw with the navigation thingies
[12:58:46] <psha[work]> ah, http://psha.org.ru/tmp/touchy.html
[12:58:49] <psha[work]> this one?
[12:59:17] <psha[work]> that's generated via docbook conversion
[12:59:37] <psha[work]> that path gives lot of goodies like TOC, correct footnotes in the bottom etc..
[12:59:54] <jthornton> no, it had <^> in the top right corner
[13:00:16] <psha[work]> that was one on linuxcnc.org ;)
[13:00:21] <psha[work]> that's not mine :)
[13:00:41] <jthornton> LOL
[13:01:09] <jthornton> so this one can have a TOC like the PDF's do?
[13:01:30] <psha[work]> yes, as i posted earlier in the mail
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[13:01:40] <psha[work]> pdf and html versions are nearly equivalent
[13:01:51] <psha[work]> toc, footnotes, reference list, etc
[13:02:27] <jthornton> cool
[13:03:06] <jthornton> so you could have a HTML User manual and Integrator manual that is the same as the PDF's?
[13:03:47] <psha[work]> yes
[13:04:26] <jthornton> cool
[13:04:39] <psha[work]> but i've not yet played with big docs build from several parts - there will be small issues with image paths
[13:04:50] <psha[work]> for example gui/touchy.txt has one image
[13:05:01] <psha[work]> how to refer to it? images/touchy.png or gui/images/touchy.png?
[13:05:09] <jthornton> try the getting started guide it is small but has several child documents
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[13:06:10] <jthornton> I don't understand the question
[13:06:19] <psha[work]> there is two docs
[13:06:44] <psha[work]> parent.txt (e.g User Manual) and gui/touchy.txt
[13:06:55] <psha[work]> in gui/touchy.txt there is image
[13:07:01] <psha[work]> image is located in gui/images/touchy.png
[13:07:24] <psha[work]> if i want to build gui/touchy.html link to that file has to be relative to gui/ directory
[13:07:46] <psha[work]> if i want to build parent.html - it has to be relative to '.' dir
[13:08:00] <psha[work]> currently it's solved by placing all docs in one dir
[13:08:04] <psha[work]> gui_touchy.html
[13:08:29] <jthornton> ok, I see
[13:08:32] <psha[work]> it may be solved by HTML base tag though...
[13:08:46] <psha[work]> something like <base href='../'/>
[13:08:56] <psha[work]> but for pdfs it not enought...
[13:09:02] <psha[work]> i mean separate pdf's
[13:10:03] <psha[work]> that's only problem with large docs
[13:10:38] <psha[work]> there is 'include::path.txt' clause in asciidoc to build composite doc
[13:10:39] <psha[work]> s
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[13:13:18] <jthornton> I'm glad you have a handle on it :)
[13:13:51] <psha[work]> i've worked with it already for a while...
[13:13:58] <psha[work]> our internal docs were all in AD
[13:14:16] <psha[work]> but then we switched back to latex for part of them
[13:14:43] <jthornton> AD?
[13:14:51] <psha[work]> asciidoc
[13:15:11] <jthornton> ok
[13:16:34] <psha[work]> pity that i've not got feedback in mailing list...
[13:16:45] <psha[work]> only from people i've bugged directly here
[13:17:04] <jthornton> sometimes that is how it happens
[13:19:32] <jthornton> psha[work]: I have to leave for a while now (dentist :/ appointment)
[13:20:20] <psha[work]> bee strong! ;)
[13:20:28] <psha[work]> s/bee/be/
[13:24:33] <jthornton> ok :)
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[15:31:21] <kb8wmc> good morning to all
[15:38:47] <Jymmm> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/2161990826.html
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[16:37:01] <kb8wmc> good morning
[16:38:46] <psha> kb8wmc: second time? :)
[16:38:53] <kb8wmc> yes sir
[16:39:00] <psha> you are living fast!
[16:39:10] <kb8wmc> and still morning here for another 20 minutes or so
[16:39:23] <kb8wmc> how are you psha
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[16:39:46] <kb8wmc> psha, I have a question if you have the time right now
[16:41:16] <psha> sure
[16:41:48] <kb8wmc> my son and I have built a 4 x 8 foot router table
[16:42:00] <kb8wmc> we have completed construction
[16:42:22] <kb8wmc> we are at the stage of being able to jog all the axes
[16:42:37] <kb8wmc> we are using Gecko G540
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[16:42:53] <kb8wmc> 4 motors on the various axes
[16:43:05] <kb8wmc> two to drive the X axis
[16:43:22] <kb8wmc> using EMC2
[16:43:45] <kb8wmc> when we attempt to jog the axis, only one of the motors on the X is active
[16:43:59] <kb8wmc> the Y axis is working properly
[16:44:14] <kb8wmc> and we get nothing on the Z axis
[16:44:42] <kb8wmc> we used one of the canned configurations in Axis for gecko 4 axis
[16:45:25] <psha> you've messed HAL pinouts i think
[16:45:27] <kb8wmc> I believe I am not understanding something on properly connecting the Gecko
[16:45:44] <psha> heh, i know nothing about Gecko or other hardware
[16:45:55] <kb8wmc> ok...
[16:46:26] <awallin> usually the 4th axis isn't just a copy of the X-axis. try something like G1A123 in MDI-mode
[16:46:35] <awallin> see if that moves your "other" x-axis
[16:47:26] <kb8wmc> ok...is that a configuration in Axis?...I haven't run into that before
[16:47:46] <awallin> the 4th axis would normally be called the "A" axis
[16:47:52] <awallin> maybe
[16:48:41] <kb8wmc> rgr...we connected the opposite motor on the X axis to the "A" axis on the Gecko
[16:49:33] <awallin> it's probably a good idea to disconnect the motors from the machine while you are testing
[16:49:46] <awallin> see that you get xyz all working before you try to move the machine
[16:50:07] <kb8wmc> when we attempted to jog (with the configuration that I selected) we only had one X axis motor activate
[16:50:36] <awallin> thats how it should be, if you just copy/pasted a model 4-axis setup from somewhere
[16:53:46] <kb8wmc> I selected the Cooltool Gecko 4 axis configuration within Axis, thinking that configuration would work, it did not
[16:57:02] <awallin> well, do you see x,y,z, and an "a" axis with coordinate numbers in the AXIS window
[16:57:12] <kb8wmc> no
[16:58:59] <awallin> looking at basic540_4axes.ini I would think the axes should be named X Y Z A
[16:59:57] <awallin> you should look at S4_pinout.hal and check that the dir/step signals corrspond to what the G540 actually needs
[17:00:45] <kb8wmc> rgr that, this is all new to me and interesting
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[17:15:08] <emcrules_mobile> andypugh: are you around
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[17:19:38] <psha> emcrules_mobile: he's not here
[17:20:18] <emcrules_mobile> thanks my phone won't show who is and who is not
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[18:36:26] <IchGuckLive> Hi all does someone now if i can change the layer on qcad from a objekt
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[18:48:16] <cpresser> IchGuckLive: modify -> properties
[18:48:42] <cpresser> or: mod->attributes
[18:48:42] <IchGuckLive> im trying
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[19:07:28] <IchGuckLive> cpresser: thanks works over the menue to the left
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[19:57:34] <L84Supper> http://mmi-auction.com/detail.asp?id=3835#xyz MATSUURA - MC 760 V, Current bid : $ 950.00
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[19:58:49] <L84Supper> http://mmi-auction.com/detail.asp?id=3866#xyz CNC Swiss Type Lathe
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[19:59:57] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80-ZIWDNfIE&feature=player_embedded
[20:00:25] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHjGfwf3Aeg&feature=player_embedded
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[20:00:44] <Jymmm> Look Ma, No tooling marks!!!
[20:00:45] <L84Supper> BRIDGEPORT - Model J Current bid : $ 500.00 http://mmi-auction.com/detail.asp?id=3845#xyz
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[20:03:35] <Jymmm> JT-Shop:
[20:03:40] <Jymmm> Look Ma, No tooling marks!!!
[20:03:45] <JT-Shop> yo
[20:03:46] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80-ZIWDNfIE&feature=player_embedded
[20:03:54] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHjGfwf3Aeg&feature=player_embedded
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[20:07:21] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Never have to buy tooling again =)
[20:07:47] <JT-Shop> won't work on delrin I'd bet :)
[20:08:12] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Actually, yeah it would. Anything but PVC
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[20:08:41] <Jymmm> I'd peronally avoid PTFE too
[20:09:44] <skunkworks> any good sources for ptfe?
[20:10:01] <Jymmm> You need some?
[20:10:28] <skunkworks> I would like some carbon impregnated ptfe
[20:10:39] <JT-Shop> mcmaster carr
[20:17:16] <JT-Shop> I only see glass filled PTFE at mcmaster carr
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[21:56:54] <MrSunshine> gaah i want my new cnc machine now so i can start installing stuff =)
[21:56:59] <MrSunshine> (computer)
[22:01:02] <Connor> You could use it on PVC and stuff, you would just need to have it enclosed and in a fume extraction/filtration system.
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[23:34:52] <Ekken> Hi! How do I know if I can use Mesa 7I52 daughter board? It isn't listed here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?Mesa_Cards#EMC2_Supported_Daughterboards so is it no-go?
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[23:46:54] <Ekken> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,30/id,6297/limit,6/limitstart,12/lang,english/#6346 hmm..
[23:47:04] <Ekken> "Support for the 8I20 is still beta but the 7I43 can support 6 8I20s via the 7I52 6 channel com / 6 channel encoder daughtercard"
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[23:51:27] <Ekken> encoders should work at least?
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[23:52:51] <Ekken> I would "need" 2x RS485, but could manage without them also..
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