#emc | Logs for 2010-12-05

[00:03:37] <theorb> theorb is now known as theorbtwo
[00:47:36] <pcw_home> Mighty quiet here
[01:09:42] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here know SketchUp?
[01:14:04] <atmega> somewhat
[01:14:58] <spasticteapot> I need to trace the outline of a GIF (it's a few characters).
[01:15:27] <spasticteapot> I made a .SVG outline and opened it in Inventor, but it's making it go crashy-crashy.
[01:15:48] <spasticteapot> (In theory, the .SVGs are from other CAD programs - not Inkscape.)
[01:15:56] <spasticteapot> I'm afraid I'm also in something of a major hurry. :(
[01:18:15] <spasticteapot> atmega: Am I still connected?
[01:18:16] <spasticteapot> !@#$!@#$
[01:18:24] <atmega> the free sketchup won't import svg will it?
[01:19:42] <atmega> what version of inventor?
[01:20:05] <spasticteapot> 7, I think.
[01:20:08] <spasticteapot> Not the latest one.
[01:20:29] <atmega> I have 2011... I could try opening it in there
[01:20:39] <atmega> or what is it you want to do?
[01:21:08] <spasticteapot> I want to take some Japanese kanji and make 'em into big 3D block letters.
[01:21:29] <spasticteapot> Basically, take the standard 2D kanji and give them a constant depth in the Z axis.
[01:21:56] <spasticteapot> Should be effing simple, but Inkscape gives you a million data points and Inventor blows its' chunks should you try to import them.
[01:23:51] <spasticteapot> atmega: Here's the image in question - I'd really like to be able to manipulate it in SketchUp.
[01:24:08] <spasticteapot> http://homepage3.nifty.com/maryy/eng/sushi_k1.gif
[01:24:32] <spasticteapot> (You can get a fixed GIF by searching "kanji for sushi" - it's the first match on Google Image Search.)
[01:31:34] <atmega> hmm... you could redraw it freehand in sketchup
[01:31:48] <atmega> or try magictracer perhaps
[02:05:32] <spasticteapot> atmega: Any tips on the whole kanji in sketchup problem?
[02:09:44] <atmega> nope... other than trying to redraw it.
[02:10:18] <atmega> I pasted it in to turbocad, saved it to a skp and tried opening it, but no luck
[03:05:54] <atmega> anyone around?
[03:11:02] <kb8wmc> hello atmega
[03:11:32] <atmega> hola
[03:11:53] <kb8wmc> how you tonight?
[03:12:25] <atmega> if I cut a profile with a 1/8" end mill, then run the same toolpath with a 1/8" roundover bit, will I get half of the roundover radius?
[03:12:45] <kb8wmc> I don't know
[10:31:48] <TeslaTony_> TeslaTony_ is now known as TeslaTony
[12:49:31] <jims_> Has anyone ever adapted a working lderFanu
[12:51:13] <jims_> Sorry, iPad in use. Has anyone ever adapted a working older Fanuc or Yasnac control to EMC?
[12:51:27] <robh__> yes
[12:51:52] <robh__> i have done two fanuc 6T and soon todo a fanuc 10M
[12:52:00] <robh__> also done a old Mitsubishi M0
[12:52:35] <jims_> Using the existing drives?
[12:52:42] <robh__> yes
[12:53:13] <jims_> Was it a major endeavor?
[12:53:15] <robh__> on Mitsubishi , fanuc 6T has Siemens Drives
[12:53:15] <jthornton> morning robh__
[12:53:24] <robh__> morning jon
[12:53:38] <robh__> fanuc is easy than most as fanuc will give you info you need
[12:53:56] <robh__> the mitsubishi was a hole new game had to find it all out ourselfs they did not want to help
[12:55:17] <robh__> the fanuc 10Ms we have they have fanuc yellow caps, which you need todo someting about no tacho in motor for the drive input,
[12:55:43] <jims_> Do you have a website chronicling your work?
[12:56:36] <robh__> getting links
[12:56:57] <robh__> here is Mitsubishi one
[12:56:58] <robh__> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,30/id,559/lang,english/
[12:57:47] <jims_> I just got an old mori seiki with a Yasnac control. I had no idea how primitive it is. Not even any RS-232.
[12:57:50] <robh__> here is old Fanuc 6T http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,30/id,1025/lang,english/
[12:58:48] <robh__> should be a name plate on machine with a date i would say
[13:00:13] <jims_> Coincidentally, I scraped a working Superslant to be replaced by the mori.
[13:01:54] <robh__> thats a bummer as i could do with a replacment spindle cartridge or the spingle bearing set
[13:02:27] <robh__> there cant be too many of the old things left tho i bet now
[13:02:41] <jims_> The Superslant worked OK, but was undersized for our application. I still have the Fanuc box.
[13:03:53] <robh__> yea spindle bore can be a pain sometimes or chuck size but we do alot of bar work and they soon rattle of parts all day long
[13:05:00] <jims_> That turret was a major cluster fuck of a design.
[13:05:24] <robh__> its the air motor inside thats the pain
[13:05:36] <robh__> like all hardinge machines around then
[13:06:23] <robh__> im sure yaskawa will send over the info you need for drive connections and setup if you dont have the manuals they are normaly quite good i belive
[13:06:55] <jims_> I always had my fingers crossed that the magnet pickup do hickey would not work itself loose on the Hardinge.
[13:07:38] <jthornton> do all the Hardinges leak air in the collet closer and everywhere else like my CHNC?
[13:08:58] <robh__> yea the power tooled version had real encoder on top of the turret, was abit of a mess how they converted it all tho, but i think superslant was abit ahead of its time when it was out, not alot was around to compete
[13:09:12] <jims_> We just used a manual chuck, but I don't recall much leakage when I used the collet.
[13:10:34] <robh__> superslant is hydrolic closer john , but yea CHNC even ours eats up air, its mostly the way the cushion works it has to leak air
[13:10:46] <jthornton> leaks air real bad when open and not much when closed... I might take it apart again and look to see if one of the new o rings I put in are hosed
[13:11:07] <jthornton> the little poppet in the piston?
[13:11:18] <robh__> or make something better ;)
[13:11:44] <jthornton> :)
[13:12:02] <jthornton> I think cradek said his HNC leaks like that too
[13:12:36] <Valen> I was thinking about a vertical lathe
[13:12:40] <robh__> yea i think its same closer design as its pritty much same machine realy
[13:13:10] <Valen> wondering why they don't seem to exist much
[13:13:19] <Valen> seems like they would be good for hobby stuff
[13:13:25] <jims_> I have to leave but would like to ask some questions later about your conversion to EMC if you don't mind.
[13:13:27] <Valen> normal bench lathe turned vertical
[13:13:52] <robh__> just give a showt to us jims_ more than happy to give my info
[13:14:04] <jims_> Thanks
[13:14:31] <robh__> like this Valen http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hwacheon-VT450R-Vertical-CNC-Lathe-installed-08-19872-/190409123212?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item2c5544a58c
[13:14:47] <Valen> yah
[13:14:54] <Valen> they don't seem to exist in the hobby scale
[13:15:32] <Valen> though it seems like they would be better there, purely from a floor space perspective
[13:16:20] <robh__> if you do chuck work or large chuck work would be ideal i guess
[13:16:24] <jthornton> you could always make one Valen
[13:16:41] <Valen> i'm thinking about it fairly strongly lol
[13:17:07] <Valen> the commercial ones also all seem to be in the lots of swing not much travel type thing
[13:17:16] <robh__> make some patterns get some castings made ;)
[13:17:20] <Valen> is there some fundamental reason for this?
[13:17:49] <Valen> making it out of PB, phenolic basalt, like the epoxy granite, but cheaper
[13:18:17] <Valen> going to make a new head for our mill with it shortly, putting one of those chinese spindles on
[15:59:18] <Maukka> hello
[15:59:18] <the_wench> hello Maukka, you have a question?
[16:03:08] <Maukka> Can someone tell me how can i adjust jog speed whit potentiometer.? What do i need write on hal. file?
[16:05:53] <SWPadnos> there are several things that you would have to do to accomplish that
[16:06:13] <SWPadnos> do you have an analog input that you can connect the potentiometer to?
[16:06:21] <SWPadnos> (that has a HAL driver ...)
[16:06:22] <Maukka> yes i have
[16:06:25] <SWPadnos> ok
[16:06:42] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Different, but trippy... http://vimeo.com/obearo/videos
[16:07:35] <SWPadnos> I think the jog encoder inputs have a "scale" pin, you could connect the potentiometer to that (probably after scaling it appropriately)
[16:07:54] <Maukka> and i can adjust feed speed all ready.
[16:09:22] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Did you see the thing I sugested for 360 ?
[16:09:38] <SWPadnos> Jymmm, no. I saw that you had something, but didn't see what it was
[16:09:43] <psha> what's problem in connecting it to halui.jog-speed?
[16:09:47] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: hang n
[16:10:03] <psha> with appropriate scale of course
[16:10:13] <SWPadnos> psha, none really, but I think that only works if you jog using halui, rather than the per-axis (realtime) jog inputs
[16:10:58] <psha> SWPadnos: good point :)
[16:11:13] <SWPadnos> of course, I don't know which Maukka is using :)
[16:11:16] <psha> then you have to use some 'vendor specific' method :)
[16:11:32] <psha> since jog speed is sent with jog command
[16:11:33] <SWPadnos> no, I think the RT inputs also have a scale pin
[16:11:38] <SWPadnos> hmmm
[16:12:06] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: SimpleNet (usb to ethernet NAS device) hackable... http://www.kiblerelectronics.com/corner/ccii_11.html
[16:12:25] <SWPadnos> yep. axis.#.jog-scale
[16:12:38] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: http://www.simpletech.com/products/storage/simplenet/simplenet.php
[16:13:19] <SWPadnos> interesting. only 10/100 ethernet though
[16:13:39] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Not fast enough?
[16:13:47] <SWPadnos> probably not
[16:14:12] <SWPadnos> though it can only connect to 2 cameras anyway, so who knows ;)
[16:14:37] <Jymmm> That's 60Mbps actual, or 7.5MBps
[16:14:44] <Maukka> i have done HID, and i can jog difrent axis whit buttons and i have one pot. to all axis.
[16:15:03] <SWPadnos> what are you using to jog? (halui?)
[16:15:04] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Sure, but I was thinking that you could use multile of them.
[16:15:07] <psha> Maukka: are you using halui for jogs?
[16:15:28] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Mount to the bottom of camera even
[16:16:10] <SWPadnos> that could be useful for some types of systems, just not the ones we have running now
[16:16:40] <psha> SWPadnos: using nas for cameras is interesting idea :)
[16:16:46] <Maukka> yes halui.
[16:16:55] <psha> then control halui.jog-speed
[16:17:05] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: NP, thought the size would be a bonus, didn't relaize it was line sped that was the issue
[16:17:18] <SWPadnos> yeah, in some applications it really is
[16:17:43] <SWPadnos> we're down to 10-25 seconds from capture to broadcast, and that includes some processing time
[16:17:49] <SWPadnos> err, 10-15 seconds
[16:17:49] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: I just figured RT embedded wuld be faster than PC
[16:18:35] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: one port to trigger, other to capture
[16:20:40] <Maukka> ok. i`ll try it out to night.
[16:20:53] <SWPadnos> well, you can't trigger accurately with USB, so the controller needs to have some physical I/O for that
[16:21:39] <SWPadnos> so it would be possible to stick a hub on one USB port and a trigger on the other, but then you're shoving all that data through only one USB port (not an issue, since 10/100 is still slower than a single USB2 port)
[16:22:52] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: I cant bring p the data sheet atm, but there was some interesting I/O on it that are not brought out n this product.
[16:24:29] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: http://www.caviumnetworks.com/ECONA_CNS2XXX.html
[16:25:06] <SWPadnos> yep, I was about to paste that for you :)
[16:25:38] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: It has I2C
[16:26:18] <SWPadnos> apparently it has a GbE MAC as well, just no PHY
[16:26:39] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: =)
[16:27:02] <SWPadnos> hard to tell what the real USB2 performance is though (or the network, for that matter)
[16:27:39] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: has ide too =)
[16:28:24] <SWPadnos> so if I want to design a small computer, and using an ARM chip is OK with me, it's a good candidate ;)
[16:29:10] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Well, oem branded 360, just gert them to customize the gige
[16:30:09] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: "SWPadnos Camera Controler 6000"
[16:30:52] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Add PoE and yur set
[16:32:11] <psha> 9000+
[16:33:55] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: rys had them on sale for $30, but it was a one-day sale and I missed it.
[16:34:33] <SWPadnos> sounds like a good enough deal
[16:34:36] <SWPadnos> gotta go. bbl
[16:34:43] <Jymmm> cya
[17:33:05] <nOStahl> morning all
[17:33:42] <nOStahl> me and a buddy are looking to teach ourselves how to run cnc
[17:33:55] <nOStahl> this looks like a good project for what we want to do.
[17:34:23] <nOStahl> anyone awake and interested in a bit of a chat about cnc
[17:37:57] <jthornton> for a bit
[17:38:08] <nOStahl> hi jthornton
[17:38:37] <nOStahl> we'd like to build a nice little starter cnc router
[17:38:52] <jthornton> sounds like fun
[17:39:00] <nOStahl> cutting maximum materials of 1/4 inch plywood or thin sheet metals.
[17:39:21] <nOStahl> have a suggestion where we should start looking for plans
[17:40:12] <jthornton> EMC wiki, Google etc.
[17:57:45] <Duckie> hi
[17:57:46] <the_wench> hello Duckie, you have a question?
[17:57:52] <Duckie> yes
[17:59:12] <Duckie> i want to setup the rack tool for my cnc miller
[18:00:09] <Duckie> i follew the steps on this website but i got a problem.
[18:00:10] <Duckie> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?RackToolChanger
[18:01:09] <Duckie> i receive a error with use the code "$ ./autogen.sh"
[18:02:09] <Duckie> error say: file or folder doesn't exist
[18:02:16] <jthornton> the $ sign is to indicate your supposed to type that in a terminal but not type in the $ sign
[18:02:35] <jthornton> if you look at your terminal screen the last character is the $ sign
[18:03:04] <Duckie> @jthornton for me?
[18:03:16] <jthornton> yes Duckie
[18:03:42] <Duckie> i know that, i must not type "$"
[18:04:31] <Duckie> i type just this "./autogen.sh" -> error
[18:04:38] <psha> install autoconf
[18:04:59] <psha> ah
[18:05:24] <Duckie> how install autoconf?? (i am new in emc2)
[18:05:28] <psha> in which dir are you doing ./autogen?
[18:05:33] <psha> it's in src subdir
[18:05:55] <Duckie> yes, in the "src folder
[18:06:29] <micges> Duckie: sudo apt-get install automake
[18:08:53] <jthornton> micges: does this to the same thing? sudo apt-get install build-essential autoconf
[18:09:25] <psha> jthornton: +1
[18:09:30] <micges> I think your is better
[18:11:43] <jthornton> just copying from here http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_with_EMC2_package_already_installed
[18:14:06] <Duckie> still got the problem, also when i install the above code
[18:16:13] <micges> copy here exact error line
[18:18:36] <Duckie> the error is in dutch. In english the error said this: "file or folder doesn't exists"
[18:18:49] <psha> export LC_ALL=c
[18:18:51] <psha> =C
[18:18:54] <psha> large C
[18:18:55] <psha> :)
[18:19:03] <psha> so errors will be in english
[18:19:51] <micges> Duckie: it doesn't matter, whole line please
[18:20:05] <micges> before : also
[18:21:00] <Duckie> ah, -> error:"no such file to directory"
[18:22:45] <jthornton> Duckie: when you open the Synaptic Package Manager and do a search for autoconf does it show as installed?
[18:26:32] <jthornton> Duckie: also, how did you install EMC and what version of EMC and Ubuntu are you using
[18:27:18] <Duckie> autoconf is green, use ubuntu CNC 8.04 and emc 2.3.0
[18:33:08] <micges> Duckie:rack tool changer patch does work surely on 2.3.5
[18:33:50] <micges> Duckie: on 2.3 there weren't ./autogen.sh, simply issue ./configure --enable-run-in-place and then make
[18:34:00] <Duckie> how do i upgrade?
[18:34:48] <micges> how did you get 2.3.0 ?
[18:35:31] <jthornton> micges: do you think the patch will work on 2.4?
[18:36:11] <micges> didn't tried it
[18:36:14] <Duckie> i download the ubuntu cnc version from this site http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/view/21/4/ and it go emc 2.3.0
[18:37:41] <micges> and what way you have source you want to compile?
[18:38:30] <Duckie> it's for my racktool and just follow the steps on that website http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?RackToolChanger
[18:40:33] <micges> you followed source downloading by git?
[18:41:52] <Duckie> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_with_EMC2_package_already_installed follow the steps "2.2. Getting the source with git"
[18:42:02] <Duckie> yes
[18:47:34] <micges> so goto source dir
[18:49:15] <micges> git branch --track v2_3_branch origin/v2_3_branch
[18:49:34] <micges> git checkout v2_3_branch
[18:49:52] <micges> then add patch and compile
[18:51:31] <Duckie> just skip the "building emc2(relatime)"?
[18:52:02] <micges> no
[18:52:09] <micges> skip only autogen line
[18:52:24] <Duckie> ah
[18:56:29] <Duckie> i type this "./configure" but receive then this error "checking for glib... configure: error: could not find glib development files"
[18:57:02] <psha> install libglib2.0-dev
[18:58:04] <Maukka> I asked earlier how to adjust jog speed whit potentiometer. Someone helped me and sayd i should connect it halui.jog-speed did`nt get it working. What should i write hal. to get it working?
[18:58:26] <micges> Duckie: sudo apt-get build-dep emc2
[18:59:01] <psha> Maukka: and how you are controlling feed speed?
[18:59:12] <Maukka> whit pot.
[18:59:20] <psha> you have pin with values float values 0..1?
[18:59:27] <psha> and then just route them to feed override pin?
[19:01:05] <psha> it's not saving...
[19:02:57] <Maukka> actualy i like to se jog speed bar mov. And show what is the exact jog mm/min.
[19:06:43] <Duckie> i run this code "./configure" and now it give me this error: "configur error: tcl lib not found"
[19:07:33] <micges> did you run build-dep ?
[19:07:53] <Duckie> oh, no. i will try it now
[19:39:56] <Duckie> i type "sudo apt-get build-dep emc2" and then "./configure" and then "make"
[19:40:26] <micges> so now you must apply patch file
[19:40:34] <Duckie> i skip " $ make install-menus" then run "$ sudo make setuid"
[19:40:53] <Duckie> all OK now. But how ddo i apply the racked_tool.patch?
[19:41:31] <Duckie> But how do i apply the 'racked_tool.patch'?
[19:41:36] <micges> git apply patch_file.patch
[19:46:38] <Maukka> awallin:terve tassa tutkailemassa emc irc chanelia.
[19:47:42] <awallin> Maukka: hello, jotain reprap 3d printtaus kokeiluja pitäis tehdä nyt joulukuussa, ja jatkaa cam-ohjelmointia aina kun jaksaa/ehtii
[19:48:59] <Maukka> awallin: jaa, voitko heittaa mulle vinkin miten saan potentiometrilla säädettyä jog speediä? nytkyn on tuo muhi:kin feed speed:it ja muut olenkin jo saanut toimimaan.
[19:49:37] <Duckie> i type this "git apply tool.patch" tool.path file name in the 'src' folder
[19:49:43] <Duckie> but receive this error
[19:49:48] <Duckie> student@student-desktop:~/emc2-dev/src$ git apply tool.patch
[19:49:48] <Duckie> usage: git-apply [--stat] [--numstat] [--summary] [--check] [--index] [--cached] [--apply] [--no-add] [--index-info] [--allow-binary-replacement] [--reverse] [--reject] [--verbose] [-z] [-pNUM] [-CNUM] [--whitespace=<nowarn|warn|fix|error|error-all>] <patch>...
[19:52:07] <Maukka> awallin: reprap rojekti onkin varmasti mielenkiintoinen. ja haastava. joitain rojekti päiväkirjoja olen netistä. selaillut.
[19:52:24] <awallin> Maukka: otetaan HAL:iin sopivalla AD-pinnillä potikan asento sisään, skaalataan mm/min yksikköön, ja halui:lla komennetaan jog-speed tuohon arvoon. tosin jos haluat näppikseltä tai jostain muualta myös jog-speediä asettaa niin tulee ongelmia, koska potikka "jää" aina siihen asentoon mihin sen jättää...
[19:53:23] <awallin> Duckie: over at #emc-devel people might know more about git...(sorry I haven't used it)
[19:54:46] <Maukka> awallin: Aivan eli sitten ei voi hiirellä mennä sitä säätään.. Mutta kun olen vähän vielä aloittelija tuossa hal. Tiedoston teossa niin voitko heittaa suoraan mitä sinne hal:iin pitää kirjoittaa? Olis hyvä juttu.
[19:55:13] <awallin> Maukka: onko sinulla m5i20 vai rinnakkaisportti vai mikä hw käytössä?
[19:55:47] <Maukka> awallin: Mullahan on MUHI
[19:56:28] <micges> Duckie: try: git apply ./tool.patch
[19:56:54] <awallin> anyone have example HAL configs for a MUHI pendant?
[19:58:41] <awallin> Maukka: oliko sillä marzis:n MUHI:lla jotkut kotisivut? missä?
[20:00:04] <Maukka> awallin: joo, löytyy noi hal esimerkit myös cncharraste sivuilta haku muhi
[20:02:35] <awallin> Maukka: saitko jo jotain jog-pyörän signaaleja tms HAL:iin ja EMC:hen ?
[20:03:21] <Maukka> awallin: Joo kyllä toimii jo jog-pyörä, toinen potikka ja napit. EMC:ssa
[20:03:53] <celeron55> hetkinen siis tuota mitä, suomea tällä kanavalla? meni hetki tajuta että mitä hittoaa :D
[20:03:56] <celeron55> -a
[20:07:02] <awallin> voin kokeilla halui.jog-speed pinniä pyvcp:n kanssa...
[20:11:08] <Maukka> awallin: oiskin hyvä, tarkoitus olis saada tuo jog speed naytto sitten nayttamaan todellista syotto noppeutta kun sita potikalla saatelee.
[20:12:02] <Maukka> celeron55:minakin taalla vasta ensimmaisia kertoja vasta neuvoja kyselen..
[20:15:29] <awallin> Maukka: jos joggaa halui:n kautta (siis vaikka MUHI:n napeilla) niin tuntuu onnistuvan helposti. jos taas haluat asettaa jog-speedin potikalla ja joggailla näppikseltä niin on hankalampaa
[20:16:10] <Maukka> tarkoitus olisi joggailla haluin kautta.
[20:17:36] <awallin> siis tämä on sellaista paina nappi pohjaan ja pidä se pohjassa tyyppistä joggausta. sellaisen liikkeen syöttöä asetetaan tuolla jog-speed:llä
[20:17:58] <awallin> jos käytät pulssipyörää niin nopeammin/hitaammin menee kun pyörittelee nopeammin/hitaammin :)
[20:18:35] <Maukka> awallin: nytkin feed overdrive potikka säätää myös jog speediä pienemmäksi. Mutta haluan saataa nimenomaan sitä sen jog syöttöä että näkyy oikein syöttö nopeus. Niin voi sitten manuaali jyrsiä napeilla.
[20:20:01] <Maukka> niin nyt käytössä vain 24ppr pyörä mikä vähän myös vaikuttaa sen ominaisuuksiin..
[20:21:36] <awallin> OK, ne 100ppr pyörät toimii ihan hyvin. Voin laittaa blogiin lyhyen halui joggaus esimerkin joskus tänään myöhemmin - tunttuu toimivan
[20:22:21] <Maukka> Ok. kiitos.-
[20:32:33] <awallin> Maukka: http://www.anderswallin.net/2010/12/emc2-halui-jogging-example/ see if something like that works for your MUHI
[20:49:34] <Duckie> i type the code "git apply ./rack_tool.patch"
[20:49:47] <Duckie> and got this error
[20:50:00] <Duckie> student@student-desktop:~/emc2-dev$ git apply ./rack_tool.patch
[20:50:00] <Duckie> ./rack_tool.patch:1077: space before tab in indent.
[20:50:00] <Duckie> linearMoveMsg.feed_mode = feed_mode;
[20:50:00] <Duckie> ./rack_tool.patch:1078: space before tab in indent.
[20:50:00] <Duckie> EMC_TOOL_LOAD load_tool_msg;
[20:50:01] <Duckie> ./rack_tool.patch:1080: space before tab in indent.
[20:50:01] <Duckie> flush_segments();
[20:50:02] <Duckie> ./rack_tool.patch:1082: space before tab in indent.
[20:50:02] <Duckie> /* optional move to tool change position. This
[20:50:03] <Duckie> ./rack_tool.patch:1083: space before tab in indent.
[20:50:03] <Duckie> * is a mess because we really want a configurable chain
[20:50:04] <Duckie> error: emc/ini/initool.cc: No such file or directory
[20:50:04] <Duckie> error: emc/iotask/ioControl.cc: No such file or directory
[20:50:05] <Duckie> error: emc/nml_intf/canon.hh: No such file or directory
[20:52:55] <micges> Duckie: next time use www.pastebin.com
[20:53:33] <Duckie> ah, (sorry)
[20:54:11] <micges> seems that you must go to src directory and apply this patch
[21:00:04] <Duckie> i go to the emc2-dev/src folder run the code => stil the same error
[21:05:20] <micges> Duckie: just a sec
[21:10:21] <micges> Duckie: try this one: http://pastebin.com/RKi6NdmT
[21:16:57] <Duckie> now i get this http://pastebin.com/6tbSJC9e
[21:23:24] <tom3p> duckie: (if you come back) the wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?action=browse&id=RackToolChanger&revision=4 begins with this message "THIS DOESN'T WORK WITH GIT
[21:23:24] <tom3p> UPDATED PATCH FOR 2.4 WILL BE SOON" ( not my caps ;)
[21:25:27] <tom3p> duckie: (if you come back) the wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?action=browse&id=RackToolChanger&revision=4 begins with this message "THIS DOESN'T WORK WITH GIT
[21:25:27] <tom3p> UPDATED PATCH FOR 2.4 WILL BE SOON" ( not my caps ;)
[21:27:01] <Maukka> awallin: sain tälläistä erroria, signal ´jogspeedset´ cannot add pin halui.jog-speed of type ´float´
[21:27:51] <Duckie> current no solution for my current ubuntu8.04 emc 2.3.0 now?
[21:30:02] <tom3p> Duckie, dont know, attempting to run patch manually right now on the mentioned .c files
[21:31:44] <psha> Duckie: try 'patch -p0 < file.patch' in src dir
[21:33:30] <tom3p> thx i couldnt figger the patch level , so -p0
[21:34:58] <Duckie> doesn't work
[21:35:35] <Duckie> can you create CD with ubuntu8.04 with emc2 and the toolracked stuff. So i must just install this cd. Or do the latest cnc ubuntu 10.got the toolracked?
[21:35:37] <jthornton> looks like micges is working on a 2.4 patch
[21:36:21] <tom3p> same here all hunks rejected
[21:39:08] <tom3p> terminal output http://pastebin.ca/2011455
[21:39:34] <tom3p> mine was on 2.5.0~pre
[21:40:37] <micges> Duckie: wait one day and I'll update patch for 2.4
[21:40:59] <micges> today I don't have time for this
[21:41:57] <tom3p> np, sorry i didnt see the notes, the wiki page says micges is working on it right now and it will be soon, we can just wait
[21:42:18] <Duckie> i got version emc 2.3.0 (say my computer)
[21:48:11] <tom3p> Duckie, its best to wait, else, read the docs on patch, study the orig and diff, figure where those lines are in your version, and wether they apply and patch by hand ( did i suggest wait yet :) ?
[21:49:08] <Duckie> ok, i wait :) hope it work.
[21:49:21] <micges> Duckie: it will work, be patience
[21:49:54] <Duckie> OK thanks for the help. bye
[22:11:35] <JT-Hardinge> a Spanish EMC web page http://www.imac.unavarra.es/~cnc/emc.php
[22:17:16] <alex_joni> JT-Hardinge: those are the guys with a hexapod from a couple years ago
[22:25:00] <tom3p> JT-Hardinge, did you see the machine tool they built? the hexaglide? and very pro panel work too
[22:26:41] <tom3p> and the drives are 230 single phase ( funny wiring for same is what im doing right now )
[22:30:47] <JT-Hardinge> hi alex_joni
[22:31:08] <JT-Hardinge> they just joined the forum
[22:31:59] <alex_joni> ah, cool
[22:47:07] <JT-Hardinge> * JT-Hardinge goes back to stacking firewood
[23:37:44] <TekniQue> Can I disable machine control somehow?
[23:37:58] <TekniQue> without having to re-home afterwards
[23:38:22] <TekniQue> I mean, I made a machine that uses stepper control, interfaced through the parallel port
[23:38:49] <TekniQue> I'm still getting up to speed on g-code
[23:39:30] <TekniQue> what I tend to do now is switch off the stepper power supply to test my scripts before I try to machine something
[23:39:46] <TekniQue> but that means I have to re-home the machine after I turn the steppers back on
[23:49:52] <JT-Hardinge> if one moves a step or three while off then you have lost your position so it is best to re home
[23:51:38] <atmega> what are you testing (with the power off)?
[23:52:01] <TekniQue> atmega: just seeing if my feed rates are acceptable
[23:52:28] <TekniQue> and the initial moves
[23:52:39] <atmega> but, nothing is moving?
[23:52:47] <atmega> so what are you testing?
[23:53:06] <TekniQue> just watching the paths on the display
[23:53:56] <JT-Hardinge> you can do that with one of the sims too
[23:54:25] <JT-Hardinge> of course the preview shows you all that too
[23:54:49] <atmega> it would be nice if the preview would step through in realtime
[23:55:03] <atmega> with a time factor or something
[23:55:09] <TekniQue> yes
[23:55:32] <TekniQue> also
[23:55:33] <JT-Hardinge> that could be rather slow for long winded programs again run it in the sim for real time sim of your code
[23:56:01] <atmega> it would need a time divisor
[23:56:12] <JT-Hardinge> why
[23:56:24] <atmega> to speed up time
[23:56:48] <JT-Hardinge> but you can't change time... :P
[23:56:58] <atmega> yet!
[23:57:34] <atmega> I try to park mine near the home switches
[23:58:09] <JT-Hardinge> I have a "Go Home" pyvcp button on my plasma which makes sense for something that large
[23:58:50] <atmega> I have a pyvcp spindle speed display but I have no spindle speed control or feedback
[23:58:58] <atmega> someday I'll figure out how to get rid of it.
[23:59:20] <JT-Hardinge> just delete it from the .xml and the postgui.hal file