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mole grips and vice grips are the same things it seems
I'm sure there is some difference
3 out of 5 computers on the internet is good when the wife's is one of the 3 :)
I need to run a network cable to another room in my house
anybody going to the wichita emc fest at stuarts?
too far for me
pfred1: I'll run your cable and terminate the ends if you get all the computers on this little 9 acres to talk to the internet :)
kinda far for me too
don't know what I'd do if I did go
jthornton, no luck? fixed ip addr no help?
jthornton my cable router does DHCP so I just plug machines in and its like OK
it gets a MAC assigns an IP
in the garage i even got the cable going to a switch and it is OK with that as well
aww, dang laptop don't speak N router so I had to switch N for G
sounds like linksys
now I have to make some connections up in the shop so my machines can cruse the internet
i planned on the fest but got work, :( :)
jthornton: Looking at the forum "metals" and how I appear to have gone "Platinum" at 320 posts, after "gold" at 160, I am wondering what you are at over 640? (and heading for 1280)
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hydrogen can be a metal
i don't know if it gets that cold
think the core of jupiter
people *may* have made it in diamond vices
YOu believe this shit... I bought an $80 set of flare nut wrenchs and it STILL striped the nut
I have half the furnace taken apart and trying to figure out how to remove this
Might need to get those needle nose ones
wonder if a small parallel clamp would work
But is that just going to fuck it up more by shreading it?
that I donno
not sure if it is safe to attempt to use stuff like kroil or liquid wrench either
Me neither, and I'm afraid to apply wd40, in case it gets into the contact point
(gas if off btw =)
yes but the goal is to be able to light it up once after you are done
needle nosed vise grips aren't as clamp happy as the curved jaw ones
Well, gas is off while I have it apart that is
I got this gadget called a stud remover it is good for stripped stuff
pfred1: Maybe so, but there are the ONLY thing that will fit into it without takeing EVERYTHING apart
pfred1: this is a 50 yo thermocoupler
pfred1: this is a 50 yo thermocouple
have you soaked this with penetrating oil?
pfred1: We just talked about that, no.
PB Blaster is the stuff
from what I have seen, it should be either one nut to retain it or the entire thingie is has a thread (kind of like the O2 sensor stuff)
pfred1: What happens of the oil gets into the thermostat housing area?
aka the gas valve block
ds2: I doubt it, I'd suspect it wouldn't work at all then.
don't know from the sounds of it you're going to be replacing things anyways
you can always clean stuff up after you get it out
that stuff is largely mechanical so I don't think that would happen.. I would be more concern about residue and vapors
the oild would block the milivoltage from the therocouple and not keep the pilot on.
do those thermocouples really generate a voltage or is it a mechanical thing?
I thought they were bimetalic strips
if I was worried about oil contamination though I'd degrease it after the job or before i put things back together but stuck stuff needs lube
they generate milivolts when heated
ds2: Specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermocouple#Heating_appliance_safety
but a Thermopile is used in 24v systems
thermopiles and thermocouples aren't the same thing
I think a thermopile is a battery where the cell is a thermocouple
well, a thermopile is designed to provide a small amount of power to a circuit, such as a thermostat
a thermocouple is designed to provide a signal that's proportional to temperature
(which could be a varying resistance or whatever, it doesn't have to be a generator at all)
my limited experience is that they have to produce voltage
ok, the wikipedia page shows that a thermocouple is a voltage source (bimetallic hot/cold)
yeah, so I'll go with your definition, which is also in the wikipedia page :)
they do use the thermocouple to power the pilot light is my understanding
that or some of the funky electron emission things
wouldn't a thermocouple need a relay or something to drive a solenoid?
nah, kinda the point
the valve operates of mV?
or with a thermopile (a bunch of thermocouples in series) to get a bit more herbs
I bought two pieces of 1" thick acrylic from a guy on ebay, he shipped one usps, one ups
5"x32" and like 6x6
6"x6" or 6'x6'?
oh small stuff
6x6 would weigh a ton
yes, but it might be useful for specific purposes ;)
or rather, a lot more than this little piece
fuck a duck.... had to hit ornage borg for needle nose vice grips.... FINALLY got it out. oxidized as can be
steel in aluminium casting?
brass in aluminim
ah... all fixed now?
bought flarnut wrenches early and STILL striped the damn thing.
No, just finally got it out.
Still have to clena the socket from the oxidtion and install the new one, then reassemebl the furnace
kind of like working on cars... there is always 1 fastener that either shears off or refuses to come out
FWIW... DO NOT buy crowfoot flair nut wrenchs from sears, they are shit
Spend the money for snapon, mac,etc
unless you like round gas nuts
hey... the rainy season started here and my new jeep filled up with water... seems the roof drains into the passenger compartment via the door seals
still under warranty
LawrenceG: There is a BIG recall on 2010/2011 jeeps
LawrenceG: they can start and pop into gear on their own - seriously
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LawrenceG: google 2010 grand cherokee recalls
and commander and dodge too
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great vehicle to get, eh? :/
Especially at $60,000 USD
I have a lowly wrangler.... I hate all the fancy crap.... hard enough keeping the basics running
thank god im in eu and we have the working public transport :P
so i dont have to have a car
only recalls on 2010 wrangler are defective brake lines..... minor technical difficulty :} I dont need any stinkin brakes.... they hurt mileage ratings
my sentiments exactly!
its a feature
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Valen: there are thicknesses that don't work with plasma
anything above 2" is too expensive to cut with plasma, so oxy-fuel or waterjet is used
but waterjuet also goes only that far
I've seen cases of oxy-fule cutting (severance actually) where the part was 3-4m thick
my understanding was plasma had a narrower cut in ferromagnetic materials than pretty much anything else
if they are cutting really big things they generally use thermal lances
ries_ is now known as ries
Jedi Light Saber!!!
elmo42 is now known as elmo40
according to wiki, plasma can cut up to 6"
you can make your own plasma machine. just need one or more of these to switch it: http://www.power-io.com/products/hdd.htm
Is 25uS fast enough?
Is 50uS fast enough?
to turn on a plasma torch?
or your latency? ;)
Jymmm: sure it is fast enough. mine is 3.8M nS >_<
wow, welding is getting REALLY high tech! http://qurl.org/e51
so your 50uS is plenty fast enough
your probably not going to generate any steps faster than 15k
maybe even less
those numbers are when I load up things... watch youtube, listen to xmms and move glxgears around.
I never do that when machining ;)
when I just start the latency test it will jump to ~18,000nS, give or take a few.
but if I open a console it climbs to 45 :(
good for alls
hey what do to rotate (g code) in emc?
like g68 in fanuc
see if this helps: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html/gcode_main.html#sub:G10:-Set-Coordinate
like an A-axis?
rotate the plane
g10 l2 p1 r90
but dont have sucess
can you explain what you mean when you say you don't have success?
i write in my gcode
G10 L2 P1 R90 X0 Y0
iwant rotate my program 90º
ok, that will do it.
that sets up the G54 coordinate system to be rotated 90 degrees ccw and have its origin unoffset from the machine origin
i set g54 origns
i have twho origs g54 and g55
my code not ok?
I don't understand what is not working for you
the comand not efect in my gcode
tche: do you receive an error?
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no have error
only thgis code no have efect in my gcode
i want rotate my program 90 degree in your orign
I understand. I don't understand why it is not working, though.
if I start emc, home, issue MDI commands G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 R90, G0 X1, the tool moves upward
cradek: in the 'y' direction?
i to try it
ok, same here.
switching between 'machine' and 'relative' position I see machine X0 Y1, relative X1 Y0
i work in "machine" or "relative"?
the comand G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 R9 no set my program
the tool move in same direction
what version of emc?
pastebin your gcode?
i not understand becasue
what version of emc?
[16:09:57] <cradek> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Released
if you check the release notes you'll see that coordinate system rotation was added in version 2.4.0
you should update to 2.4.5
instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.4
my version no makes tuhis?
2.3.5 no rotate?
no rotate until 2.4.0
in my documentation see the comand
i update my program then
[16:16:50] <elmo40> http://isbn.nu/007144484X
weirdly, in 2.3, G10 ... R is accepted - it does not give an error.
oh I see why - G10 L1 R sets a tool's radius
it's a bug that G10 L2 R is not an error
definitely need to upgrade then.
yes - simple fix
he hasn't returned. must be a lot of other things that need upgrading ;)
grommit: i've added control for line spacing, it will be in version 0.0.4
grommit: building now so will be in repo in ~15 minutes
hey psha, here now
so to update I do: apt-get update, then apt-get install cu-plugins?
thanks, you'd think I would remember that by now!
too bad the irc doesn't timestamp messages
is the thing built now?
oh, is it an option I don't have turned on?
grommit, what client are you using?
the java client from the web page
chatzilla, xchat, irssi all do
oh, I don't know about that one :)
you'd think the house application would be the best ;-)
it ain't ours
we just borrowed it
if you are on irc 24/7 then using a proper client is best
Hi from the Windy Germany
and what part of Germany?
(we're heading there in a couple of weeks, so I'm curious :) )
Around Ramstein AIRbase we expect up to 90km/h
in a couple of weeks you will see Snow B)
ok, we'll bring boots
going to Berlin though
Berlin is 400km away
there will be nw snow till Januar in Berlin
Ramstein is in Bavaria (near the Black Forest), isn't it?
not Bavaria but near 45km away from Black Forest
ok. I have a friend who was stationed there for a couple of years
(in the late '80s-early '90s)
we barried today 3 Pentioneers Soldiers
no, roast beef
with all the Military ceremony Guns and Trumpet ....
Never heard of Black Forest Roast Beeef
Thats what I said, but SWPadnos said roast beef
Black Forest ham
IchGuckLive: (It was sorta a joke)
i did translate bummer but no anwer so what is it
"that's too bad"
or "that's sad" or that kind of thing
I thought I had seen other meats with a Black Forest brand, but I could be mistaken
IchGuckLive: "The guy already sold it before I could buy it. Bummer deal dude"
SWPadnos: you woudt not get this in BERLIN
SWPadnos: I wouldn't be surprised, just a marketing thing anyway.
no, I'd just stick with sausages and stuff
or maybe jelly donuts :)
Jymmm: i now what you mean i did 50+ bids this week for a new old notebook
no roast beef in Berlin?!
Jymmm, not exactly, apparently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Forest_ham
SWPadnos: Oh, like Champaign or Tequilia
SWPadnos: exactly the stuff we talking about
I'll bet I can get some in Berlin. They'd just import it :)
from the black forest?
this meat on Dark Bread with real butter JAMJAM
Is that where Grandmas house is?
from the places near the black forest where it's made anyway
no, that's over the hill and through the woods
not near the forest
good evening . whath is the procedure correct for calibrate the tool offset the lahe with 16 tool change ?
SWPadnos: in the SHOP calld KDW they have the orig. one
Well, after all the turmoil on Moday, guess what I get to order... http://www.pennstateind.com/store/DC3XX.html
I HOPE it fits
oh right. work
motioncontrol: the logest is the Reference for Z Zero
SWPadnos: Hey, did you hear what happened?
motioncontrol: so you got all offsets in the + direction
IchGuckLive, thanks i write step by step my idea please
Jymmm, the cruise ship engine fire?
SWPadnos: No, with me on Sunday.
the airbus A380 engine explosion?
oh, no, unless you're talking about the imbalance in your DC blower blades
i have a machine cont in x- in direction the spindle and z - count in direction the spindle. this is ok ?
motioncontrol: thake the international ISO Right hand Versian and it fits
IchGuckLive, i go in home and have x0 z0
SWPadnos: I am. With a LOT of pleading and groveling I was able to return the HF DC for a refund on Tuesday. But the vibration initially was so minor, I'm not sure why it resonated even though I mounted it on rubber mounts.
not have offset g92 apply
move x - and axis x move in spindle direction , is ok ?
SWPadnos: 3/4" tall mounts
motioncontrol: the Mashine Zero Homing is not relevant
SWPadnos: Did I not use big enough ones or something?
Jymmm, you might have gotten lucky with the resonant frequency of the mounts
maybe 1" or 1/2" ones wouldn't have resonated
SWPadnos: Ok, I understand. But what is typically the recommended course of action in something like this. Surely ppl don't use an acoustic engineer all the time for such things.
no, but then again a dust collector is probably not expected to be silent in most environments
IchGuckLive, my question is : i will use the g92 zero piece or no ? i use the g92 zero offset on centre the spindle ?
SWPadnos: But a lot of ppl make enclosures for them all the time. And the ironic thing is that is was quiet when I placed it in a heavy duty plastic trash can as a test.
sure. no resonance :)
motioncontrol: sorry thats out of my range im only in milling and there i use only the G54...
like I said, I think you got (un)lucky with the mounts :)
no hello? =(
motioncontrol: you call the offset with the tool not the G-code
SWPadnos: You think just solid mounting it would have been better in dampening?
it's possible. that would prevent it from vibrating all over the place
* frallzor cuddles up to SWPadnos
it would transfer the energy to the enclosure though, which might not have had a great result
IchGuckLive, ok.i have my piece on spindle and have diameter 65mm.call m6 t1.and after go with spindle on piece whit x and z. whath is the value i write in table tool offset x and z ?
SWPadnos: Right, which is what I was trying to accomplish so it's not transfered to the laser
motioncontrol: second post
SWPadnos: Any thing else to try ?
SWPadnos: I could care less for noise reduction, but I can't have the vibration transfered to the laer.
if there's space for it, you could try stuffing some relatively stiff foam between the blower and the enclosure, still using the rubber mounts
it's like having multiple filters - the rubber mounts absorb some frequencies, the foam absorbs others
You're talking noise damping.
noise is vibration
SWPadnos: True, but I'm talking vibration anti-transfer (make sense?)
If it vibrates I dont care, I just dont want it transfered
yes. foam and rubber will both compress, which more or less absorbs the vibration before it gets to the enclosure
get a piezo sensor, invert the output, feed it to some vibra-blocks so they generate an equal opposite phase vibration
SWPadnos: Alright. I found some recycled rubber mats I can line the enclosure with. They even have the same pattern as acoustic foam http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xgl/R-100671772/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
you don't need to line the whole thing. This is more like putting another thing between the blower and the enclosure, alongside the rubber mounts
The key I read is it has to be heavy and soft, and those mats are.
well, somewhat heavy, but not near the same stiffness as the rubber mounts, since those don't work
SWPadnos: Well, if the enclosure is resonating, I'd hope the rubber mats would dampen.
I was going to use ceramic wool, till I read it's a carcinogenic.
not good in an 800CFM air flow
Though it's actually great for sound dampening,
It even beats the expensivve stuff across the bandwidth
Jymmm: maybe something like mats used in outdoor equipment?
psha: elaborate please. outdoor mats???
i'm trying to figure out how they are called in english
it's some form of polyethilene
The key to sound dampening is the material you use needs to be heavy and soft, like lead or neoprne rubber.
it's pretty soft and it's thickness is in range 3-20mm
I suspect that since I used MDF (heavy and hard) didn't help any.
And when I tested in a heavy duty plastic trashcan (think walled HDPE) it was heavy and soft enough
sorry but i'm not able to find links to something similar to this in english
i really don't know what to search for :)
@all today we started the new Windmill 1KW projekt do yo think 1500USD is a good price for the hole aplication
The inverter, controller, and batteries will cost you about that.
Jymmm: your gues
do you have any of the parts already?
yes we run about 16 of the big ones
so what parts do you have?
or what parts do you still need?
the Permanentmagnet Generator is 159 home made
blades? tower? controller? inverter? batteries?
no its a hole new projekt that woudt go into a 5.000-10.000 peace production
If you make your own controller/inverter/charger you could do it for $1500
it will be out of china production on ourer circut layout
say 300-400 for batteries. and the balance for components
how large of a reserve bank of battereies ?
and are they common deep cell, or SLA or ???
i do not now details now
Yeah, you need to know all the particulars.
ej it started this morning in the factory
the gues is to come out with 1500 USD
and is $1500 your cost, or retail cost?
retail i think
does that include batteries too?
[18:56:47] <IchGuckLive> http://www.werner-mertz.de/ueber-wm/das-unternehmen/zeitrafferfilm-frosch-baut-ein-haus/
look at the picture in the video
this are windmils 1,5KW 4800USD
give me the english link
there is no english
the videos are only in german
Solar and wind. Interesting.
what is the energy out of corn,shit calld in english
no the production to power and head
no if you take a big pot put in corn ,cow-shit -> this gives you methane
the funny thing is that a lot of farmers have switched from growing corn to soy now.
on the farm how is this calld
psha: What does "Base name for Circle pins" mean? what am I labelling?
[19:05:55] <Jymmm> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/07/green-basics-ethanol.php
I wonder of the exhaust smells like popcorn?
[19:06:50] <IchGuckLive> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_digestion
IchGuckLive, thanks for info, but the front angle and backangle is important ?
motioncontrol: NP but i never set up a late sorry
Jymmm: we harvestet this year 250Acers of corn for this
here in Germany its a big deal
in my city 450 Euro for "free pwer and Hotwater"
there are 5Catapillar engines running on 35Tonns of corn per Day
the water coming in the house has 70°C
ok i got to Go By its late here
grommit: it's for reporting marker position back to axis
used in conjuction with marker tracking
there is code for both tracking single color or 4-point markers
thanks for line spacing, works great
but untested and untrasted :)
glad to hear it :)
camview-tiny is working fine?
seems to be
I have some oddities, but I suspect it is the camera or video in Ubuntu
when I first boot the machine, the camera is not seen when I launch axis. I have to disconnect the camera, plug back in and relaunch axis then it shows up
maybe input_v4l2 have to be fixed to use libv4l
how do I do that?
they have some workarounds built into library
I have another camera that doesn't work at all (a cheapo webcam).
i have (experimental) input_v4l but i think it's not in good shape :) if you'll give it a try it would be great :)
I am willing.
I can put back what I have if it doesnt work, yes?
put it somewhere (not important where)
you always may get it back by apt-get intall --reinstall libcamunits6
but now you need to hide it from camunits so it will eat new one
how do I kill the old
with libv4l i have better results in camera initialization
and put the one i downloaded in /usr/lib/camu...
it may complain about incompatible libs
then i'll build lucid version
then run camview or axis?
hmm, no video in input section....
check camview output
is there any complains about input_v4l.so?
something 'undefined symbol'
run camview from terminal
camview Running glut init RTAPI: ERROR: could not open shared memory (errno=2) HAL: ERROR: rtapi init failed Setting up pins for [(null)] Hal data not present Axis 0: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 1: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 2: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 3: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 4: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 5: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 6: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 7: (nil) Hal data not present Axis 8: (nil) ** (camvi
anything about input_v4l.so?
nothing new here from before though (as far as I can tell)...
is input_v4l.so in /usr/lib/camunits?
let me plug/unplug my camera...
try ldd /usr/lib/camunits/input_v4l2.so
any missing libs?
doh, unplugging, plugging back in did it...
ov 10 14:57:18 Gort kernel: [18707.800089] usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 5 Nov 10 14:57:22 Gort kernel: [18712.360037] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10 Nov 10 14:57:23 Gort kernel: [18713.005565] usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Nov 10 14:57:23 Gort kernel: [18713.033112] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Video Camera (045e:0294) Nov 10 14:57:24 Gort kernel: [18714.032198] uvcvideo: UVC non compliance
hmm that's confusing, perhaps pastebin
[20:00:09] <grommit> http://pastebin.com/YkbspcZn
How do you use a 220vac dryer outlet for other 220V devices?
I unplug my dryer
psha: I need to leave but will be back in about 45 min.
is there such a thing as a 220v switch or power strip of sorts?
grommit: so let's continue tomorrow
i'll test it and create package
will you be asleep or somethin' :-)
it's 23:00 here
23:00 is time for cigarettes, coffee, cognac, coding
atmega_: i'm not smoking, don't like coffee and is drinking only once a year :)
don't like coffee!?
so only choice for me is coding :)
then you code, I'll drink the coffee for you
we each have our individual talents
heh... I gave up the cigarettes and alcohol... One cup of coffee per day.. I'd give up the coding, but it pays well.
I came across a CRSPLUS robot programmer pendent type thingie, has 9 double throw momentary switches, two momentary pushbuttons and a pot
wonder if I could make it do something useful with emc
[21:21:59] <DaViruz> https://www.netauktion.se/auction/product/experimentbank-med-stenskiva/
nice, i think i want
my own metorlogy lab
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its mine all mine!
[23:34:39] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNkUa8P-1Q&feature=player_embedded#!
jeeze - I cannot log into outlook web in IE - but I can in firefox. how stupid is that?
so, you have 3 problems.
If I link two pins linked to two functions with a net statement and one function resets the pin, does the signal go low, and reset the other pin?