im allmost proud of these internal cables!
frallzor I've been doing a little research on optocouplers after saying how slow they can be and have decided to upgrade mine because some I'm using are really dog slow!
I even got some color coding noe!
even "fast" optocouplers are rarely faster than a microsecond
and in the world of electronics thats still dog slow
but in the world of dogs
that's practically instantaneous
yup but when it comes to stepper timing it is bad news
yeeey cables done
your step motors can complete a step in a microsecond?
TD-Linux its not completing it I am worried about
TD-Linux setup and rise times do matter
work of art! I am... THE CABLEMASTER
GoTschA_ is now known as GoTschA
TD-Linux and directly I have driven my motor drivers with a 23 us clock too
so in that I's say a us here or there does in fact matter!
even these 3 us optos aren't lookingexactly stellar to me right now
when I saw it I had to laugh: http://www.futurlec.com/Mini_SMCC.shtml
wholly crap their PCB service seems pretty reasonable to me
[00:38:00] <pfred1> http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml
I wanted a CNC router/mill so I could make PCB's to make a CNC router/mill
atmega yeah but at $6.35 a board let someone else inhale the fiberglass dust!
I could let someoen else make the router
I can't do much better than that buying bare board really
hmm... actually I did.
like $7 for 4x6 at RS
but yeah I do like to do it myself
like if I do it myself i can make one and then make changes if I need to
teh guy I bought my router frame from sent me a new, unbent one for free
well not much use for a bent one now is there?
I'm going to try to retrofit with all the linear bearings/rails/etc I accumulated when I was going to make my own.
the bent one?
I worked as a die plater once and after we heat treated the dies they'd warp sometimes we never had much luck straightneing them out but we tried
the most bent thing was a 1/2" acme, he already replaced it
which taught me the simple fact that once stuff is bent its really hard to unbend it
I mean we had a 100 ton press and whatnot
but still the stuff never was quite flat ever again
heh... during the day, I make nuclear fuel... it goes in tubes. We have a tube straightener that bends the hell out of the tubes in-process and they come out perfect
multi-convoluted funky roller thingie
that's a technical term
yeah rollers can make stuff flat and or straight
but other methods of straighting aren't all that swift really
you end up with stuff that is offset
anyway, new rails with real bearings and it will probably be straight(er anyway)
man when we heat treated those dies it was wild we'd soak them in liquid arsenic for like 4 or 6 hours and when I'd pull them out you'd swear they were almost translucent like you could just about see through 1 inch thick steel plates
in the morning I'd come in and fire up the oven and it was this shite powder but by the time it was up to temp it was like the 7th circle of hell in there all glowing
[01:00:39] <Jymmm> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/1663186482.html
this white shite would be apt
Jymmm thats cheesy
pfred1: like I care?
* pfred1 prefers the 4 handles easier to get an elbow on it too
when I'm drilling all day I wrap the handle
evne the threes suck compared to the 4s
Jymmm if you don't care then don't post the links
pfred1: Quit being such a diva ya Diva!
pfred1: If you dont like them dont read them
Jymmm how do I know until I look?
pfred1: then dont look.
does it look like i have Google tattooed across my forehead to you or something?
yes, yes you do
or at least written in sharpie
oh nice the asians still sell lead solder
MarkusBec is now known as MarkusBec_away
Are there any other screens avialable for emc (ie: custom buttons/screens)
want more stuff on the screen like tool number,offsets that sort of thing
in a seperate box
Use the side panel...
It is done with an xml file, see some of the examples supplied with emc.
i can use emc2 but programmming is a different story
not programming really, simpler.
one moment and I'll track down an example for you.
like to make it look similar to haas or mazek layout
not much on the default one
have things grouped togeather on one screen that you can see at a glance
Guest401: tool number and offsets are at the bottom of the screen
maybe you'd like to try the other guis - there are several of them - but I think none of the others are as easy to use as the default, AXIS.
just wondering if others have made guis that are downloadable
In the wiki see http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?PyVCP
althought this info looks more complicated then it really is.
Let me see if I can find something simpler...
terrylm Nothing starts out complicated, it just gets that way ...
was a line i heard in a movie a long time ago and it sorta stuck with me
that looks reasonable
I think Don Johnson said it
being windows linux still looks like a mystery
truth is its Windows thats the mystery
if you really want ot know something about linux its all there
the best thing you could do to get used to EMC is to just use it - you do not have to start by inventing a custom GUI like you might feel you have to in some other softwares :-)
but do try out the different ones - in particular if you're making a front panel for a machine, you might try out touchy if you think a touchscreen and no keyboard/mouse is good for your machine
the other guis including AXIS are made to be extremely keyboardable - you do not need to use the mouse for anything.
Humm, I did not find anything else...
I picked it up from the examples that came with the EMC install, look for ones that have an xml file with them.
will do some playing
That is the best way to learn.
that, and get a real /nick ....
In sort though, the xml file defines container widgets (hbox vbox) within which one puts display items or buttons or whatever, these items you name to make them have hal pins. Then in the postgui.hal file, note the POST gui file, just hook things together using net .... .
Guest401: If you are still here, do not know why I did not think of this earlier, but: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/EMC2_Integrator_Manual.pdf
terrylm they left long ago 22:19 -!- Guest401 [EMCIRCUser@CPE0060673b2e91-CM00169242b37e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Visitor from www.linuxcnc.org]
Thought so, but did not see the message saying so, so was not sure.
yeah i haven't used that one in a long time
It nearly always prints messages when people join and leave.
I use IRSSI now used BitchX for a long time but its abandonware now
it had some nice features that I miss though
I tried about four different IRC clients, found most of them to be hard to use or confusing, XChat seem to work for me.
I don't usually do anything too technical with IRC
The only thing I use it for is to chat on this channel. I have no idea what all features it has or how to use them.
hmm yes most of it does seem to do with sex messaging to me
/cdcc dcc chats and whatnot ...
The color display is nice.
most chans kick users for using colors
I mean, colors on my display, like if someone puts my name in a line it turns red to me.
oh nick highlighting
yeah thats your client doing that
mine bolds my nick and highlights it if its the first word on a line
yeah the other users nick is bright yellow
Ya, same sort of thing.
* pfred1 had to scroll back some to check ...
that's a /me command BTW
type /me checks out the me command
mine puts an asterick in front of my nick when I me me
what I've not figured out is that sometimes there is an asterisk instead of a nick, then the nick at the start of the line, like you just did: * pfred1 had to scroll back some to check ...
yeah thats a me
do it type /me is doing a me
* terrylm like this?
yup thats a me
thats about as advanced as i get on IRC
well that and /msg
not sure what the point is?
its a highlight
that didn't go out to the channel
it looked like this: /msg terrylm this is a personal message
oh here's another handy one
Fri Mar 26 23:04:55 EDT 2010
that's this: /exec -o date
oh ya, I know about msg, though I don't much use it.
you can exec commands to your output
Linux spot 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
/exec -o uname -a
yeah it can be semi handy sometimes
Do those commands run on my box? or the IRC server?
Ah, my box.
yeah they're local with the output sent through the IRC client
Linux terry-laptop 2.6.28-17-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 1 21:27:25 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
same as you'd get in a terminal window
Got it, thanks
thats the full extent of my IRC bag o trix
Learn something new every day... sometimes.
yeah whether its useful or not remains to be seen
Well, one could use cat to spit a hal config or ini file onto the IRC. That would be a bit much though:)
yeah thats what /#flood is for and even they don't appreciate it much
well /join #flood
really pastebin is where its at for stuff like that
Yes, I used pastebin a couple of times now.
proper IRC ett9iquite limits one to about 4 lines of output
past that most good chans have an auto-flood kickbot
OK, I'll remember that.
this chan could use a few handy dandy bots
if you want to see some neat IRC bots on this network join ##politics they have a couple of nice ones in there
That's OK, I'll pass. politics just pis... me off. poly=many, tics=blood sucking parasites.
oh then there's nickserv
I use that to identify.
try this /msg nickserv info terrylm
you cna do that to any registered user
BTW if you hang out here a lot its a good idea to get a cloak
* pfred1 is cloaked ...
ah, as I suspected! the name terrym is also me, from a year ago. I forgot the password...
if no one uses it for a while it'll go inactive back to the pool thats what happened to my nick
How long does that take?
I donno couple of years I'd imagine
I forget the admin channel on this network but they'd be able to help you out in there
#help maybe? nah its some channel
Well, back to EMC stuff, I did have a quesiton...
Has anyone used a game controller with emc?
I got an interface board that I can plug those playstation handles into.
The plan is to use the little joy stick on it, or some of the pressure sensitive buttons to jog with.
pfred1: cloak, what? how? why?
well not everyone you meet on IRC is nice
and i think the channel where you get them is called #staff on this network
So what does a cloak do for you?
23:25 -!- pfred1 [~pfred1@unaffiliated/pfred1]
thats my cloak
23:25 -!- terrylm [~email@example.com]
thats your IP hanging out in the breeze
see the difference?
Oh, sort of, that is the outside of my ISPs filewall.
... then I have my own firewall ... then I have a linux box.
then there's IRC users with big enough zombie bot networks to take your ISP down with
and they're usually the most annoying users too!
As for my email address, it has been on the 'Net for so long that it is everywhere, every spammer already has it. That is why I use ASK.
well I can't see your email
you can when you whois you or info you but I can't
Oh, it's firstname.lastname@example.org if you ever need it. Again, I use ASK, a challenge / response system.
ASK is great, I used to get over 2000 junk emails a week, and that was a decade ago, probably more now. Currently about five a week make it through.
I setup a commercial email account once and actually used the word spam in it and al lthe brilliant spambot scropts stripped the word out
and i never got spam
so if your emai lwas say email@example.com you'd be surprised how much that'd cut down on spam
yeah it shocked me
you know most people fudge spam into their email to avoid it but i found actually having spam in your email avoids it even more though I would have to specifically tell lots NOT to take it out
which is sort of a hassle in reverse in a way
life is largly counter-intuitive
ya, for ASK see: http://sourceforge.net/projects/a-s-k/
[#emc] "This is the #emc channel - talk related to the Enhanced Machine Controller and general machining. Website: http://www.linuxcnc.org/,
wiki at http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/"
i installed emc whats the root pw ?
whatever you set it to
ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default
Tecan: you use sudo on your account for root powers
is 8.04 still updated enough to be used as a daily driver ?
it keeps starting up only to blank the screen ang go back to the login
sounds like X is having issues
8.04 is ok, 10.04 is coming out soonish
try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver (or something like that)
i've had this issue before with using existing user accounts
check the xserver package using "dpkg -l | grep xserver"
going to try a fresh account
ctrl + alt +f1 then nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
read through the log and see whats happening
does anyone know what would cause a pulsing sound comming from my laptop with emc ?
its making a hissing and pulsing noise every second
going to turn off sideport video
anybody done anything with thread milling?
IE not ridgid tapping
getting a lot of /usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.8/wx/setup.h:1053:1: warning: "HAVE_IOSTREAM" redefined
heh wrong chan for that last one
archivist: what type cutter are you using on that, and how good you think it'll turn out on an x/y machine?
some people want us to cut a ~1.5" pipe thread
make a holder for a tip then you get perfect thread
how do you mean?
[09:57:31] <Valen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T43DrVzlPnA&feature=related
not a good idea
there will be a delay before I show, the box is being hammered by 1 cc1 compilers
dude you really need a quad core or something lol
hm, I wonder if it's completely impossible to create a 5v~ sinus adapter for heidenhain scales..
so I can use my rotary table for the big mill
that one should have been 7
Valen, took a while http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/djcpd/PD/2008/2008_10_07_cnc_Thread_mill_tool/p1010245.jpg
see also http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/djcpd/PD/2008/2008_10_07_cnc_Tread_milling_worm_and_wheel/
oh right you just did it with a tooth cutter
same as you would see on a lathe?
but spinning obviously
thats some pretty work there
howd you make the tool holder? really really little end mill?
really need a high speed spindle on ours lol
well 2 or 3mm endmill
that or bolt a dremel on
single tooth cutter ls not nice on the insert :)
but it means I can do the odd obscure threads
we only need to cut 6 of them
but there is probably a number of different threads lol
I made the cutter to do some antique miners lamps
its a shame we dont make stuff out of brass any more
I also make flycutters, gring the form with a dremel under a magnifier to a similar thread form, it will be near enough
this is for a swageloc fitting
its going to be pressurised to ~1400PSI
needs to be pretty good lol
then buying an insert and making something up means you can make it oversize, measure and recut a few thou closer
cutting the internal thread
but yeah I get yer meaning
I often fiddle gcode after a measure to get accuracy
hard part is it needs a really nice V in the top for an o ring to sit in
basically looks like a countersink
I'm thinking of getting a conical milling bit or something if they exist
that or making up a booring bar style thing with the right end on it
simple with a hand ground cutter
is an inch and a half across though, and needs to be as close to perfect as possible,
what you think of boring bar style?
I do want a cutter grinder though
cutter only needs to be small, you go around the edge/whatever
yeah I was worried about it not being round then
the X and Y on ours hasn't been measured yet ;->
actually I might see if i can get them to just weld the attachment on
wont leak then ;->
I rotate the item :)
* JT-Dev gives up trying to install a floppy drive in the Gateway and restores it back to the Gateway way
Valen: they do exist
I figured as much
MarkusBec_away is now known as MarkusBec
* JT-Dev wanders out to the shop to see if I can find my g-code file on the Windoz machine from the Hardinge...
hmm, I can see the plasma coumputer and something called STROUD on my network browser but not any of the computers down in the beer cave
I can see both computers down stairs from each other and all 4 can find the net but neither computer out in the shop can see any computers in the beer cave
maybe the bear kicked a wire
i REALLY need to learn how to read
beer barrel is sitting on the network cable stopping teh bits, drink teh beer to lighten the barrel
[13:36:53] <Jymmm> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/03/26/dnt.la.bees.on.car.wafb?hpt=T2
the bits get from me to you so that can't be it besides I drank all the beer yesterday
Jymmm, that link crashed firefox
I have a wireless router down here and it is connected to the switch up in the shop
archivist: Works fine for me
hmm milling in pure copper how does that work ? :)
copper work hardens and is sticky
so cut the right amount with lube and a sharp cutter
you have to cut it very slow, sharp tool, lots of flood coolant
like 50 sfm
I've heard milk is the best coolant for copper but I've not tried it (ick)
sharp so you cut and dont shear
which goes against the abuse you can give brass
my belt is slipping on the HNC quite badly, do you think automotive belt dressing would work?
I don't think it even works on cars :-)
yea, i know it doesnt on newer belts
i need to find a way to get this thing to stop slipping
I used to use stuff on my southbend, but it was sticky and would make in squeak as it wore off
it's costing me alot of money in inserts
tried new belts?
can you even get those belts? They're kind of odd
the big ones for the varidrive
I'd hope so... but I don't know where.
run out of adjustment?
they're not flat belts, but they're not v belts either
there's no adjustment
as far as i can tell
right, wide but with V type sides
does the drive use a spring for take up
to close one of the pulleys
archivist, do you know how a variable speed head on a bridgeport works?
good question - I wonder if that's free and the right pressure
no, but seen a few arrangements
there must be springs and sliding bits somewhere
or adjustment for said spring
Danimal-office: you can get them from McMaster Carr here is one 1922V256
yea, the pulleys are split in the middle, and they have spring pressure to push them together.
Danimal-office: have you checked to make sure that stuff is all free?
I have not heard of slipping as a problem for varispeed before
JT-Hardinge, that number is invalid
cradek, no, but i suppose i could
I have a varispeed in the Schaublin
that was the trade sizew
JT-Dev, i dont think that's the right belt for the hnc
lol I'm over here
the length seems short
well you have to pick a length I just grabbed one as a sample
i think one isnt in great shape
you need to measure the OD of the belt
mine isnt cogged though
it rides on a flat pulley as well as the v pulley
wonder if it matters
i wish there was an easy way to bypass the vari speed pulleys
it's funny, i'm getting titanium for almost half the cost of stainless now.. i need to find a new supplier for 17-4ph
elmo401 is now known as elmo40
Danimal-office: half the cost of stainless? by the pound? :P
after a canned cycle do you have to issue a G80?
it may error, unless it is the last thing such as m30
good evening from germany
sealive: afternoon from canada
eyy sealive, have you heard about brunkabel?
we have havy rain here
the map of people using EMC doesn't display my location :( I have all the info in the profile.
cold but sunny day here
well that doesnt answer my Q :P
* JT-Hardinge has successfully spot drilled the end of the do-hickey I'm making by reading the manual but not on the first try :/
many shitty unknown products have sites =) I have never heard about them, have you? :)
(since they are german)
i move on have a nice suturday and a lucky weekend
JT-Hardinge: reading the manual is *usually* the first thing one is supposed to do... but we are Men, we don't need no stinkin' manuals/maps/mechanics ;)
elmo, for the same dimensional piece
elmo just doo it
maybe not quite half, but pretty close
if there is no power cable be schure to have a hammer byside
if ther is one take a bottle of water!
both will give you a crunchy work
:D XD :DD
* JT-Hardinge likes the max velocity slider for peck drilling
how helpful he was =)
my cam software produces utterly useless toolpaths for peck drilling :/
which cam software
sweet! the part came out nice and with a 0.125" diameter hole 1.75" deep... my first part on the Hardinge
no, about $120
yea, cause it is a PIA part to make on the manual lathe
to me it is at least
anyone have any idea about tip radius and the pressure on the part? ie will a smaller tip radius work better with a long skinny part?
this one I just used was a CNMG 322-M3 with a tip radius of 0.031"
sliding heads win on skinny stuff
* JT-Hardinge wonders if a 321 would have been better
DaViruz: have you tried heeksCNC? http://code.google.com/p/heekscnc/
archivist: all I have is the CHNC I
or the manual which has a tailstock
JT-Hardinge, smaller radius means less tool pressure, which means less part deflection
I kinda thought so but it is good to get some feedback
JT-Hardinge, for normal lathes at the clock works we would only pushou a short bit rough it the pull more out, then finish with a tailstock center
the CHNC doesn't have a tail stock
and sharp as possible edge
so I have to adapt
make one? ;)
elmo40: no, but it looks like it's worth a closer look
his tooling will get in the way
i'd go with the 321 if you had to choose
it is an infant program. not bad, though.
I'll get some 321's to have on hand too
DaViruz: you should check out his blog. http://heekscnc.blogspot.com/
gives you more insight on how he is working things through
* JT-Hardinge has had a successful morning and wanders in to take a nap to celebrate
* Jymmm slips JT-Hardinge a mickey of Pedilite
Jymmm that you got off of Craigs List?
i wonder if i'll get this camera on ebay
aa-danimal-shop snipe and be sure!
anyone know photography?
no, but I'm OK at ebay sniping
haha i already set up a snipe bid
but it's within $30 of what i want to pay
heck I always did it by hand
what type of camera
my best was 1 second to go
I had a D-450Z once it was nice
pfred1, esnipe.com is the way to go
I have an older olympus
[19:08:47] <aa-danimal-shop> http://cgi.ebay.com/OLYMPUS-E-510-10MP-DIGITAL-SLR-TWO-LENS-KIT-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ390173608052QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital_Cameras?hash=item5ad828c874
hot diggity dogs I am able to access this partition now!
and I thought it was gone forever
archivist, is yours an slr?
aa-danimal-shop you ain't just whistling Dixie on that note
fsck -y /dev/sdb1 did da magic!
aa-danimal-shop, no, but its been reliable except for the screen that got bashed
archivist well don't drown your camera in a bath of SuperClean like I did
boy that was one rough weekend let me tell you
one of my film cameras went for a swim in a river, it did a few more years work after that
i figured the fact that it comes with 2 lenses is cool
for the price
the olympus has carried on after the screen was broken
archivist my camera probably would have lived except it had batteries in it
and I think SuperClean is a fair conductor
Im using a canon dslr at the moment
archivist, i was looking at those too, but they cost a fair bit more
I got a secondhand fleabay one
I got all of my notes back from 2003
archivist I found the most awesome place on Earth to buy second hand cameras
yea, still, probably looking at $400 for a body, and basic 15-55 lens for a early 2000's model
archivist this place in Alabama called Unclaimed Luggage and Freight
they get all the stuff people lose in airports
and people lose a lot of nice cameras in airports!
no good for me the atlantic is in the way
I'm sure people are just as dingly where you are
you just have to figure out where all of their stuff ends up
actually over here it seems the airlines do a fair bit of the losing
this place the trick is go in with batteries they let you try all of the cameras out on the spot its nice
go get one and sell it to aa-danimal-shop
I ought to go out and get some beers getting this partition back is cause for a celebration here
go up the street and take a swan dive into their vat of Palo Santo
here it is! http://www.bathtubbrewery.com/2008/11/24/dogfish-head-\u2014-being-off-centered-is-off-ally-good/
hmmm i seem to have lost a piece of titanium
wonder where i put it
hmmm how big an iso image can I write onto a DVD+RW?
pfred.... I size videos at 4.4GB
leaves a little room
LawrenceG yeah the file I wrote fit but I messed up it wrote the ISO file to the disc
more coasters for the coffee table!
nah its RW I'll just give it another go
yay i found a loose screw in my ATC which was causing it to be out of position occasionally
aa-danimal-shop sure is wasn't the loose connection between the chair and the keyboard?
hmm i dont think so
man this drive is eerie quiet
maybe it isnt plugged in
aa-danimal-shop I fear the day it dies I'll never know
there you go regular everyday files
i have a feeling that i'm not getting this camera
I have a feeling they finally figured out how to make decent disc burners
should I quit bidding against you now LOL
* JT-Hardinge tries to figure out how I want to handle the spindle brake an lock pin in hal now
all I need to get my 8.04 CNC ready?
it will install the RTAI kernel and everything?
and... is having the 'server' install ok for this? or should I get the 'desktop' version
YEA! that works
I don't know what to do now, clean up some, put more cover plates back on, or throw a chunk of 6061 in a collet and try threading
you're having too much fun
it's about time :)
now you can come work on mine!
I'm not done with mine yet!
I think I'm going for option 3
MarkusBec is now known as MarkusBec_away
clean out the servos, clean out the coolant tank, fix the lube tank, put some covers on, fix an air leak in the turret lock cylinder
hmmm I'm sure there is lots more... I need to make a punch list
I'm ordering one of these to mount the monitor on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021111
JT-Hardinge: pics of your machien?
[20:44:36] <JT-Hardinge> http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/
you can get those swivel mounts from kijiji for a lot less
nice computer mobo setup... free-air style, eh? ;)
the monitor wont fit in the old monitor compartment?
yea, but it would be nice to have it facing me when my head is inside the CHNC
mobo will be sealed up when done
I can put the back cover on now I think
tool 1 is a turning tool and that will be my master tool for setting offsets
X offsets seem to be simple enough turn a part with tool 1 and store the diameter in the tool table
take tool 2 another turning tool and touch off the part and store that X offset
MarkusBec_away is now known as MarkusBec
now I take tool 1 and face the part and do a Z machine offset? then store the Z offset of the second tool?
there is no way to directly upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04? just like you have to go from 9.04 to 9.10?
elmo40 you don't want to upgrade EMC2
but when 10.04 EMC comes out... how would I upgrade from 8.04?
your best bet always in Linux is to have /home in its own partition
that way "your PC" is never really too tied to the OS
I think I will wait. Ubuntu is weird for updating (and things break).
really the best setup is /boot /var /home and a / partition
anyone use css G96?
I did find 9.10 a little choppy at the outset
OK I fingered it out
one thing thats annoying me on my EMC2 machine is I can't find where I disabled double clicking on my 9.10 machine
double clicking is just so spastic an action to me
oh yeah my Notes directory is on my other machine now! 423463680 bytes sent in 425.05 secs (972.9 kB/s)
pfred1: I have a /home not only on a different partition but a separate drive!
13Gb drive, just for /home
elmo40 thats a great way to go
anyone have a CAD drawing of Tux? all I can find are svg's
I saw an app earlier that converted svgs to dxfs?
let me find the name of it
oh this is great I saved the files in firefox and have no idea where it tossed them
pfred1: you want single click to select?
JT-Hardinge yeah I'm thinking its in the gnome file manager wher I need to set it
elmo40 I think this may be it b2_dxf_output.zip
open the file browser and preferences then behavior
JT-Hardinge yeah I think that is where it hides
* JT-Hardinge knows that is where it is :)
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mouse wheel put to good use :)
JT-Hardinge ha ha sweet no more spazzing out to run an icon!
JT-Hardinge do you do auto raise and auto focus too?
JT-Hardinge focus follow mouse
I don't know about that
when your mouse is over a window it just comes up
oh yes I know about that
the trick is to set a little delay or it gets too nutty
i like 300 ms
yeah to hell wiht all of this clicking around I just want to navigate
I can't live without window shading either
though for me at least multiple desktops never really caught on
I may have to figure out how to do virtual desktop on this system the screen is a little smallish
1280x1024 on this thing I feel like i need a magnifying glass to read anything
ok its time to get good ole HAL to see my parallel port card I think
pfred1: have you used the b2_dxf py script?
elmo40 not yet but it sounds like what you're looking for
I think you have to dump it into inkscapes scripts directory for it to work
sweet i got the camera
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my first decent camera
I look forward to seeing lots of decent pictures from it
My only decent camera is/was a Cannon AE-1 but I don't use film anymore
older but excellent
has some spazzy moments if you try to take 3 or more pictures really fast.
elmo40: I have a 3D model of tux somewhere if you need it
elmo40, i was looking at those too
seems like there is hardware lag. then all of a sudden the shutter goes berserk :P
alex_joni: that would be nice.
is that puppyLinux cnc still being developed?
just that the ubuntu version is larger then a CD
no, it's not
fits ok on 700MB CD's
I burned emc2 and installed it
well, didn't like my discs.
and they are 'cd-are 80min' discs
though I think my disc claimed it was messed up
damn spell check :P
it said it had "One erroes"
One Errors even
alex_joni: thanks. looks good :)
says it is 712MB
I was able to burn a 704MB .iso
just not the emc2 one
how much you can overburn is disc dependent
and these were 50 for $4
juve@dsplabs:~/public_html/emc$ du -h ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj13-i386.iso
but said 80-min discs.
isos contain the formatting on them too don't they?
pfred1: iso's contain everything that goes on the disc
really I've jambed 800 MB onto a CD unformatted
you can get away with that with files like avis that have their own ecc
alex_joni right so an iso is data+ format
formatting does take disc space
emc2 is smaller than standard ubuntu isnt it?
elmo40 sometimes I find it helps to pick a slower speed to burn some isos on some drives
recently i learned that eject can set your CD drive speed too if you have a noisy old bomb and you can't hear movies playing off it and stuff
which i thought was sort of neat
finally my nice internal cables are all done
frallzor I thought you said they were done last nite?
whats the fuse kernel module?
well they werent soldered etc etc then
they are now
frallzor do you have any pictures of this magnum opus you're creating?
magnum opus? :P
frallzor it seemed the apropos thing to say at the time ...
nah I havent
Im not shooting cables =P
fuse = file system in user space
Valen ah ha!
Valen and here i was worried it was just another hting that could blow and let go on this rickety system!
alright do I dare to plug the parallel port cable in?
I see parport loaded in lsmod but I still don't see if or how this new board is going to work without any parameters to it
* pfred1 wings it by writing loadrt hal_parport cfg="30b0" into custom.hal file ...
does I use G7 or G8 on G76?
if at first you don't succeed then redefine success!
me thinks I follows G7 and G8 atm
* JT-Hardinge threads a 0.800 - 20 thread on some 6061
if it ain't 1020 I don't wanna fool with it :)
dam them threads are a pretty sight after all this time :)
you made threads?
man its 39F here!
damn, it's like 85f here
wth did I get transported to Fargo or something?
it's 80f in the house, so it's usually 5-10f higher outside
39F is usually our winter low temps around here
so is 85f here
j/k... closer to mid 50's actually
I had to take a hike out to my storage shed and was like dang its chilly
i still need to find an encoder
yea, it has been a long time coming
but i dont thread much so i'm in no rush
I made some 0.800-20 threads in 6061
yea, i hear ya
means I have lots more material left till I get down to 1/4-20 LOL
i was wondering what you'd use .800-20 for
I might make a 0.800-20 nut just cause I can :)
oooh i just used a forming tap on my aluminum parts. MUCH better than a cutting tap.
yes, very nice!
Hey everyone. I have an m5i20 card for digital i/o. Does anyone know if EMC would be able to read analog input from the m5i20?
dont you need a DAC daughter board for that?
i could be wrong
the m5i20 does DAC. but its a matter of what EMC can do with the firmware.
well i know it can do analog output
but i'm uncertain of analog input
owhite: there is a THC card that you can read analog voltage with
dan you use the forming tap on 6061 or 7075
The Torch Height Control system?
we used it on 7075 where i used to work
what size tap
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parallel is best I believe
resistance is x0.5 then in the datasheet for my motor
best speed vs torque chararistics
but as long as inductance is unchanged I think im all good
parallel is least inductance well same as half I guess
ah resistance is lower in parallell too
thats no biggie then
sure it draws most current in parallel
but your geckos should be able to deal with it I mean they're geckos right?
they out out what 7 amps per phase?
i will limit it to 3.5A anyways
well yeah you can't give the motor more than it can take
thats the whole idea behind current limiting
not much good if the limit is higher than the motor can take
man I love shrink wrap
all electrical tape is good for is using on fish line
3.5A will go a long way I think
if wired correctly, the stepper is hard to turn right?
I don't know about that there should be holding torque if it is energized though yes
but I'd imagine it'd have holding torque even wired wrong too
they are coils on magnets after all
well i did like that site saud
should be ok then
if not you can always swap a pair
then the worst that'd happen is your motor would run backwards
then just swap the other pair and you're all set
well I know which pairs of cables that belong
yeah but you have to have it all phased corectly too
A not A B not B
yeah but it doesnt say which is which
there are static ways of determining motor plarity
the all mighty batterytest
yeah if you got it wrong they just won't turn then power down never ever disconnect the motor while the drive is energized
and swap leads
how to do with the battery, forgotten =)
hmmm should i hook my scope up to this?
* pfred1 sees little spikes on the screen!
man this stuff is marginal it peaks at 2.4V