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[00:00:03] <skunkworks> right now - I have them all setup as outputs - the red ones switch dc 5a up to 60v
[00:00:15] <skunkworks> usually between 30 and 100
[00:00:28] <aa-danimal-shop> nice
[00:00:29] <skunkworks> depending on your luck
[00:00:52] <aa-danimal-shop> hurry up and finish your machine
[00:01:00] <aa-danimal-shop> i wanna see that thing move
[00:01:18] <skunkworks> me too.
[00:02:30] <Valen> more outputs? dear god man how much stuff are you running?
[00:02:57] <Danimal-office> back scratcher and butt scratcher use 13 outputs alone
[00:03:11] <skunkworks> well - I need 21 outputs just for hydraulic solinoids
[00:03:13] <bill2or3> 14 if you include the heater.
[00:03:43] <Danimal-office> my toolchanger uses up most of them on the mill
[00:04:45] <Danimal-office> spindle fwd, spindle rev, 2 coolant pumps, machine enable, etc
[00:05:02] <skunkworks> brb
[00:18:04] <tlab> oh geez... I have z axis all the way down, the spindle in the holder all the way down and I barely touch the stock
[00:24:08] <Danimal-office> put a plate under your parts
[00:24:51] <tlab> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3706935/DSC00698.JPG
[00:24:54] <tlab> yea
[00:29:21] <tom3p> good time to build a riser plate. you dont want to have the z at max extension ( = max wiggly )
[00:29:45] <BlackMoon> Hint: Anything can be bolted down and flycut flat as a sacrafical plate.
[00:30:00] <BlackMoon> Even wood if accuracy isent super critical.
[00:30:30] <tom3p> and thats a pcb routing tool? just a single lip cutter?
[00:30:33] <Danimal-office> not sure how much fly cutting you're gunna do on a desktop mill lol
[00:30:42] <BlackMoon> doesnt matter how accurate or flat either surface is if you flycut it flat (and your mill is tramed) as the surface will then be true to your mill axises
[00:30:55] <BlackMoon> Danimal-office: lots if your flycutting wood :)
[00:31:06] <BlackMoon> diamiter doesnt really matter, just more passes
[00:31:28] <BlackMoon> idea is by doing it on the mill itself, it trues itself up
[00:31:42] <tlab> yea, I've thought of that
[00:31:47] <BlackMoon> (course it may not be true if you unclamp and reclamp it)
[00:31:52] <Danimal-office> i know, just sayin it'll take a while :)
[00:31:57] <BlackMoon> but as a scrafical plate, thats ok
[00:32:11] <BlackMoon> Danimal-office: Sure, of course, if its allready a CNC, little faster :)
[00:32:24] <Danimal-office> mmmmmm sacraficial lamb
[00:32:24] <BlackMoon> or at least, less work
[00:33:06] <Danimal-office> maybe i'll mill a sacraficial lamb on my mill
[00:33:13] <Danimal-office> make lamb-kabobs
[00:33:27] <Danimal-office> onions and peppers
[00:34:11] <Danimal-office> i havent eaten lunch yet
[00:35:04] <ds3> fly cutting wood? are you also inspecting the resultant wood in an unknown humidity environment with a tenth indicator too? :D
[00:35:14] <Danimal-office> lol
[00:35:35] <Danimal-office> roughness gage
[00:37:42] <Danimal-office> must have at least a 16 finish
[00:39:04] <ds3> and the wood must be oak too? ;)
[00:39:12] <Valen> mmmm cubicle rage ++
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/06/this_is_what_happens.php
[00:39:16] <Danimal-office> birdseye maple
[00:44:20] <tlab> * tlab is just a poor hobbyist
[00:48:16] <tlab> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v3k5yvi1AU&NR=1&feature=fvwp
[00:49:03] <Valen> http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/rapist.jpg
[00:52:16] <Valen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1vNveXSprc&feature=related is a cool cnc X/Y table
[00:52:22] <Valen> sounds like a printer though lol
[00:55:26] <BlackMoon> lol at lathe. Kinda missing. uhh... the important part :)
[01:02:30] <Valen> its a start
[01:02:56] <Valen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1IDHIcyHLY&feature=related shiny
[01:03:29] <Valen> love the tool changer
[01:04:27] <cradek> whoah, that thing needs some covers
[01:04:38] <cradek> exposed rails and ballscrews are very bad news
[01:07:25] <Danimal-office> pretty cool though
[01:08:15] <Valen> must CnC lathe!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKL6elkbFy0&feature=fvw
[01:08:23] <BlackMoon> heh deralin
[01:08:24] <Valen> danimal use that one on cradec
[01:08:32] <Valen> motivate him to finish
[01:09:04] <Valen> cradek, its only plastic, and I'm guessing from the title its probably his first cut ;->
[01:09:08] <Danimal-office> you mean JT-Hardinge?
[01:09:17] <Valen> whichever one lol
[01:09:22] <Danimal-office> cradek's lathe is running
[01:09:43] <Valen> must be jt then
[01:09:46] <JT-Hardinge> mine runs too but not in a controlled fashing yet
[01:09:56] <JT-Hardinge> fashion
[01:09:57] <BlackMoon> Valen: man thats the biggest collet I have ever seen
[01:09:59] <Danimal-office> until i seak over and harvest some parts :)
[01:10:06] <JT-Hardinge> cause I can't type LOL
[01:10:13] <BlackMoon> is that like 50C size? :)
[01:10:23] <Danimal-office> hows it going JT-Hardinge?
[01:10:50] <JT-Hardinge> trying to figure out why my Z is not controlled and wanders about
[01:11:02] <Valen> cos it had a bad childhood
[01:11:18] <JT-Hardinge> I did a good job raising it
[01:11:20] <Danimal-office> do you have a tach?
[01:11:25] <JT-Hardinge> and lowering it
[01:11:30] <Danimal-office> lol
[01:11:56] <Danimal-office> encoder hooked up backwards?
[01:12:15] <cradek> what's the symptom?
[01:12:19] <JT-Hardinge> no, I'm don't have something right in the hal file
[01:12:33] <JT-Hardinge> it wanders around till I get a following error
[01:12:34] <tom3p> the last vid post had this next to it
http://opensourcecnc.blogspot.com/
[01:13:20] <skunkworks> heh - so how come just having an input activate and output in classic ladder is so cool the first time?
[01:14:23] <cradek> because it means you figured out the crazy gui editor
[01:14:43] <skunkworks> it took 3 tries. I can see it being a pain for a while.
[01:14:50] <skunkworks> like eagle ;)
[01:15:01] <cradek> the secret is don't forget to click ok before save
[01:16:44] <cradek> so what are you working on?
[01:17:30] <skunkworks> just getting used to it. I need to start thinking about tool changer, pallet change and table rotation for starters.
[01:18:36] <Danimal-office> cradek: ha! i make that mistake a few times
[01:18:39] <skunkworks> did I ever mention how cool emc is?
[01:18:49] <cradek> skunkworks: yes, a few times
[01:19:13] <Danimal-office> classicladder is fun when you get the hang of it
[01:20:39] <Danimal-office> and yes, emc is super cool
[01:21:04] <skunkworks> heh - when you click on the coils and contact - it shows you what it is hooked to in hal. neat
[01:21:32] <Danimal-office> i'd probably be stuck with some crappy prototrak if it wasnt for emc
[01:24:51] <clytle374> Danimal-office, the horror.
[01:25:06] <Danimal-office> lol
[01:25:22] <Danimal-office> i ran one for a while, i'm not a fan
[01:25:58] <clytle374> I hate those things, at least a haas will make parts and get along with most other machines in the shop.
[01:27:20] <Danimal-office> my mill just needs servos and i'll be happy
[01:27:42] <clytle374> You're closer than I
[01:29:23] <aa-danimal-shop> well my machine runs, it just has steppers
[01:33:16] <clytle374> My machine doesn't do anything.
[01:33:31] <tlab> I just need a real mill
[01:33:46] <tlab> I need a real job
[01:33:59] <clytle374> I second both of those
[01:34:02] <aa-danimal-shop> lol
[01:34:02] <tlab> * tlab had an interview with rockwell automation the other day
[01:34:08] <aa-danimal-shop> i dont have a job
[01:34:15] <aa-danimal-shop> nice
[01:34:21] <tom3p> but you have work!
[01:34:39] <clytle374> I do paid work 0-10 hours a week
[01:34:42] <aa-danimal-shop> i still need to do that work though lol
[01:35:52] <skunkworks> ok - I guess you have to be smarter than cl
[01:36:22] <aa-danimal-shop> cl? craigslist?
[01:36:39] <skunkworks> heh - classic ladder
[01:37:50] <aa-danimal-shop> lol
[01:38:06] <aa-danimal-shop> yea, classicladder can confuse you sometimes
[01:38:13] <aa-danimal-shop> or at least me
[01:42:39] <skunkworks> ok - getting there ;)
[02:04:54] <tlab> what type of aluminum would be good for a tool plate?
[02:05:46] <tlab> 2024?
[02:08:50] <JT-Hardinge> ok, we are moving in the correct direction now :)
[02:09:02] <tlab> 6061
[02:09:10] <JT-Hardinge> 7075
[02:09:22] <Jymmm> 5150
[02:09:32] <JT-Hardinge> Jymmm: :P
[02:09:47] <Jymmm> 8675309
[02:09:49] <Jymmm> 42
[02:09:58] <Jymmm> 13
[02:10:00] <Jymmm> 69
[02:10:02] <Jymmm> HICK!
[02:10:05] <Jymmm> HIKE!
[02:10:32] <Jymmm> G42
[02:10:38] <Jymmm> BINGO
[02:11:37] <tlab> was his name-o
[02:12:49] <clytle374> I'd think any of it would be fine for your purpose. Maybe even hardwood.
[02:13:03] <clytle374> You are doing circuit boards, right?
[02:13:08] <tlab> yea
[02:15:36] <tlab> just needs to be good and flat
[02:15:43] <tlab> I guess I could shim if needed
[02:15:56] <clytle374> Or you could mill it flat
[02:16:28] <clytle374> Would would be easier on the spindle should an mishaps occur.
[02:16:39] <clytle374> wood would... what is wrong with me
[02:16:41] <clytle374> ?
[02:16:44] <aa-danimal-shop> nice JT-Hardinge , what was it?
[02:17:44] <JT-Hardinge> I needed to connect the wires up correctly and set the scale correctly
[02:17:56] <JT-Hardinge> now attempting to tune the Z a bit
[02:21:13] <Jymmm> JT-Hardinge: WTH kind of guitar you trying to tune?!
[02:23:00] <aa-danimal-shop> did u have the encoder wired backwards?
[02:23:24] <JT-Hardinge> no the velocity input LOL
[02:23:54] <aa-danimal-shop> lol
[02:24:04] <aa-danimal-shop> i figured it was one or the other
[02:24:18] <skunkworks> there you go - confusing the servo amp again.
[02:24:57] <JT-Hardinge> it was never confused it did what it was told to do all the time
[02:37:19] <JT-Hardinge> hmm, it is not catching the index when homing the z
[02:39:46] <aa-danimal-shop> do you have a course and a fine home switch as well as the index?
[02:39:52] <JT-Hardinge> YES
[02:40:02] <JT-Hardinge> damm caps lock key
[02:40:03] <aa-danimal-shop> whoa ok, no need to yell :)
[02:40:14] <aa-danimal-shop> lol
[02:40:14] <JT-Hardinge> LOL
[02:40:35] <aa-danimal-shop> are those working ok?
[02:41:25] <JT-Hardinge> yes, I have an annunciator panel in pyvcp to watch them
[02:41:32] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: it was 47 degrees today! snow's almost completely gone. is it time yet?
[02:41:40] <aa-danimal-shop> you do have inex search turned on in ini, right?
[02:41:46] <JT-Hardinge> yep
[02:42:10] <JT-Hardinge> don't know how to see if the index works
[02:42:20] <aa-danimal-shop> i think by default one axis is has one index search turned off
[02:42:29] <aa-danimal-shop> scope?
[02:42:59] <cradek> disable amps - set the encoder's index-enable true. turn the screw and see if count resets and index-enable goes false.
[02:43:16] <JT-Hardinge> ok
[02:43:18] <cradek> or try homing to it ...
[02:43:28] <JT-Hardinge> tried homing
[02:43:29] <cradek> if it doesn't work, it'll just keep going until it hits the limit
[02:43:36] <aa-danimal-shop> haha
[02:43:44] <aa-danimal-shop> it'll stop then, i promise
[02:43:46] <JT-Hardinge> did that too LOL
[02:44:04] <cradek> then index isn't working :-)
[02:44:15] <cradek> you did hook up the index-enable, right?
[02:45:00] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: it was warm and gorgeous today, tomorrow or friday the subpanel's going in, then i'll be ready :-)
[02:45:10] <tlab> woa woa first of all, is it plugged in?
[02:45:19] <JT-Hardinge> in the ini file? yes
[02:45:20] <cradek> sweet
[02:45:53] <tlab> 220VAC or 480VAC?
[02:45:54] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: wonder what if anything I should be getting ready then...
[02:46:10] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: unforch i have a big family vacation coming up in the middle of march that might push things out a while :-(
[02:46:25] <seb_kuzminsky> * seb_kuzminsky greps the email
[02:46:34] <cradek> oh no! but that sounds fun anyway.
[02:46:41] <JT-Hardinge> one turn of the screw turned off the index-enable
[02:47:05] <tlab> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iClXrd50Z8
[02:47:14] <JT-Hardinge> so I assume the index is working
[02:47:53] <cradek> yep
[02:48:06] <cradek> so I'm guessing you didn't hook it up to axis.N.index-enable
[02:49:02] <JT-Hardinge> dang your sharp Chris
[02:49:32] <cradek> tlab is the one who asked if it was plugged in - and you just ignored it :-)
[02:49:59] <JT-Hardinge> I missed it
[02:50:08] <JT-Hardinge> very small monitor
[02:50:09] <tlab> woa woa first of all, is it plugged in?
[02:50:13] <aa-danimal-shop> well i was thinking it the whole time
[02:50:22] <cradek> haha
[02:50:26] <cradek> we're so helpful
[02:50:27] <JT-Hardinge> it's plugged in but not connected
[02:50:37] <aa-danimal-shop> i figured i'd just let cradek have this one
[02:50:42] <tlab> I ment plugged into the wall, like 120, 220, 480
[02:50:53] <JT-Hardinge> all the above
[02:51:01] <aa-danimal-shop> he's not right often enough :)
[02:51:49] <cradek> yeah I need the easy ones to get my score up
[02:51:54] <aa-danimal-shop> haha
[02:51:58] <aa-danimal-shop> riiight
[02:52:29] <aa-danimal-shop> you figure out whats wrong with half of my basket case crap, so everything else must be a walk in the park for you
[03:01:21] <JT-Hardinge> I'm not finding what to connect to axis.N.index-enable :/
[03:01:33] <cradek> it hooks to encoder.N.index-enable
[03:01:35] <aa-danimal-shop> hold on i'll look at mine
[03:01:42] <aa-danimal-shop> oh
[03:01:42] <JT-Hardinge> ok
[03:01:45] <aa-danimal-shop> nm
[03:02:46] <JT-Hardinge> It likes that :)
[03:02:55] <JT-Hardinge> cradek: to the rescue
[03:03:33] <cradek> if it thumps when it gets index, also hook up pid.N.index-enable
[03:03:54] <JT-Hardinge> ok
[03:04:10] <cradek> it's probably too light for you to even notice it
[03:04:26] <aa-danimal-shop> cradek=oracle of emc
[03:04:49] <ds3> aa-danimal-shop: that statement can be read so many ways
[03:05:05] <ds3> as both side the 'of' has other means :(
[03:05:10] <ds3> meanings
[03:05:35] <aa-danimal-shop> i dont follow ya lol
[03:06:03] <aa-danimal-shop> i was refering to the lady that knows everything in the matrix
[03:06:05] <ds3> it could mean you are saying cradek is the database of a file server :D
[03:06:11] <aa-danimal-shop> ha
[03:06:23] <aa-danimal-shop> well that kinda works too
[03:06:29] <ds3> EMC is also a name of a file server company
[03:06:38] <ds3> and Oracle...well... that should be obivious ;)
[03:07:08] <aa-danimal-shop> the one from the matrix bakes cookies
[03:07:16] <aa-danimal-shop> so i'll stick with that
[03:07:20] <aa-danimal-shop> i like cookies
[03:08:28] <JT-Hardinge> Houston we have ignition! I guess it helps to uncomment a line in the hal file for it to work LOL
[03:08:37] <aa-danimal-shop> haha
[03:08:43] <JT-Hardinge> the Z axis is homey
[03:08:47] <aa-danimal-shop> yay!
[03:08:49] <ds3> JT-Hardinge: CNC rocket engines? :D
[03:09:06] <JT-Hardinge> maybe tomorrow
[03:10:03] <JT-Hardinge> * JT-Hardinge flicks on the magnetass switch after the success of homing the Z :0
[03:10:17] <JT-Hardinge> say goodnight Gracie
[03:10:22] <aa-danimal-shop> night!
[03:10:30] <JT-Hardinge> thanks guys
[03:10:30] <cradek> I don't know what that means, but goodnight
[03:10:58] <JT-Hardinge> you have to be a bit older to remember the Burns and Allen show I suspect
[03:11:24] <JT-Hardinge> when TV's looked like a fish bowl and had lots of static
[03:11:36] <cradek> I meant 'magnetass switch'
[03:11:48] <JT-Hardinge> it is on my lazyboy
[03:12:05] <ds3> Mmmmm real tube tv's
[03:12:14] <JT-Hardinge> when I sit down it is automagiclly engaged
[03:12:27] <JT-Hardinge> and I can't get up after that LOL
[03:12:30] <cradek> oh ok, I see
[03:12:48] <JT-Hardinge> thanks guys
[03:12:54] <cradek> g'night
[03:13:08] <JT-Hardinge> g
[03:13:12] <JT-Hardinge> 'night
[03:14:06] <Valen> w00t random happyness
[03:14:18] <aa-danimal-shop> JT-Hardinge.N.magnet-ass-enable
[03:14:27] <Valen> needed to get pocketPC to play sound, figured it was going to be a massive problem
[03:14:31] <JT-Hardinge> Engage
[03:14:32] <Valen> turns out its 2 lines lol
[03:14:42] <aa-danimal-shop> true/false?
[03:14:51] <aa-danimal-shop> nice valen!
[03:15:36] <clytle374> Timing belts for servos. Material: Urethane or Neoprene. Tension member type: Kevlar, Polyester, or Fiberglass. Which is best?
[03:16:34] <Valen> glass and urithane would be my bet for that
[03:17:59] <clytle374> Less elasticity?
[03:19:00] <clytle374> One more option for material. Polyurethane
[03:20:46] <Valen> Polyurethane = urithane ?
[03:22:45] <clytle374> I thought so but the SDP/SI website shows them separately.
[03:23:07] <Valen> different
[03:28:01] <Valen> they don't have steel?
[03:28:15] <clytle374> Funny, the Neoprene/Fiberglass are twice the price of the others.
[03:28:25] <aa-danimal-shop> bulldozer tracks
[03:28:30] <clytle374> No, tiny belts... toy mill
[03:28:57] <clytle374> aa-danimal-shop, that should hold it.
[03:29:34] <clytle374> Isn't neoprene soft?
[03:29:46] <aa-danimal-shop> wet suitw
[03:29:57] <aa-danimal-shop> suits*
[03:30:27] <clytle374> That doesn't make me think accurate positioning.
[03:31:36] <Valen> 's why I said urithane
[03:31:38] <aa-danimal-shop> makes me think dry underoos
[03:31:52] <Valen> glass has a lower elasticity than kevlar and polyester too
[03:33:23] <clytle374> This is odd, I need the least expensive part. I must have made a design error way back;)
[03:33:34] <Valen> rofl
[03:33:38] <clytle374> Thanks
[03:34:06] <Valen> no worries
[03:34:25] <Valen> btw the ones with steel belts in em make nasty ass spikes when you snap them ;->
[03:35:54] <clytle374> Nothing compared to steel cable.
[03:37:02] <Valen> yeah but you expect them
[03:37:09] <Valen> this is a soft rubber thing
[03:37:17] <Valen> with little daggers in the end lol
[03:37:45] <clytle374> Good point. The belt defiantly has the element of surprise.
[03:38:08] <Valen> guy at our robot comp broke it and it got 4 seperate people lol
[03:39:54] <clytle374> definitely, spell checker teaching us to spell the wrong words properly.
[03:49:45] <renesis> guys where are my grey wirenuts =(
[03:50:09] <Valen> the salted ones in the tub that had your name on it?
[03:50:32] <renesis> http://www.darkertechnologies.com/image/20100303_growleds_proto2_40w_built1.jpg
[03:50:36] <renesis> http://www.darkertechnologies.com/image/20100303_growleds_proto2_40w_built2.jpg
[03:51:09] <Valen> I see bright things in your future ;->
[03:51:17] <renesis> haha i totally got lazy on the non mating setups, like .075 mismatch in the middle (fairy mill only goes 12")
[03:51:22] <renesis> i have one lit up!
[03:51:30] <renesis> i need one more wirenut to do the other
[03:51:37] <Valen> dude duct tape
[03:51:42] <renesis> ive been looking for the baggie for like 30min =(
[03:51:51] <renesis> no!
[03:51:55] <renesis> IM A PROFESSIONAL!
[03:52:03] <Valen> electrical tape then?
[03:52:13] <renesis> i have 6 diff colors of electrical tape yo
[03:52:15] <renesis> haha maybe
[03:52:25] <renesis> but im going to install them i dont want to leave it like that
[03:52:32] <renesis> and i have a whole baggie of grey ones somewhere
[03:52:33] <Valen> running as a series or parallel string?
[03:52:56] <renesis> two strings of 6, 5R resistor w/ 24V
[03:53:16] <renesis> 1.2A, measures like 43W this array
[03:53:34] <renesis> fuck LedEngine emitters are all abs min Vf, heh
[03:53:52] <renesis> when i was just running 660nm red, i was at 1.5A with 1.5A fuses
[03:54:08] <renesis> for weeks, dale heatsink resistors ftw
[03:54:49] <renesis> s/fuck/fuckin (hey is safe a no real person language channel?)
[03:55:05] <renesis> er s/safe/this
[03:55:09] <renesis> im just going to stop k bye
[03:55:58] <renesis> oh, but yeah the next protos i want to do emitters on thin pcb with boost iregs for 12V input
[03:56:44] <renesis> like, somehow fit the coil and driver for the ireg between the emitters
[04:02:32] <Valen> boost sucks
[04:32:14] <clytle374> Need to design a timing pulley, any good links. Guess it shouldn't be hard to do.
[04:32:17] <clytle374> ?
[04:40:27] <clytle374> maybe tomorrow, G night
[04:59:18] <renesis> http://www.darkertechnologies.com/image/20100303_growleds_proto2_40w_built3.jpg
[04:59:23] <renesis> thru
[04:59:28] <renesis> http://www.darkertechnologies.com/image/20100303_growleds_proto2_40w_built7.jpg
[04:59:39] <renesis> found my wirenut \o/
[05:01:07] <renesis> http://www.darkertechnologies.com/image/20100222_growleds_proto2_40w.png
[05:01:41] <renesis> need to make those little endplate mounting blocks and trim the out of square sawed ends and put the endplates
[05:01:45] <renesis> maybe next week
[05:11:59] <tom3p> renesis. are those grow light leds? like flouresent light form factor?
[05:12:55] <renesis> kinda, 24"
[05:13:50] <renesis> im trying cool white (lots of blue with wide spectrum from the phosphor, i really need like, ice white or something)
[05:14:15] <renesis> and the reds are 660nm (chlorophyll-a absorption peak, get a bit of -b too)
[05:14:27] <tom3p> cool, saw a show about farming in shipping containers. used led lights and recirculated water hydroponics. Mitsubishi behind it.
[05:14:47] <renesis> most people cant get the plants to bud right with just red/blue
[05:15:03] <tom3p> ah, this was like lettuce
[05:15:17] <renesis> its either because not enough power or because the 12/12 needs something in the mid spectrum to trigger
[05:15:36] <renesis> yeah i live in california and i have medical papers, heh
[05:17:21] <renesis> i seen lots of people doing led lettuce
[05:17:47] <renesis> i kinda want to do a salsa garden
[05:18:20] <tom3p> http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20100113/179204/
[05:21:43] <Jymmm> This is #emc, not #thc
[05:32:41] <BlackMoon> man I just roughed like a half pound of steel on my lathe -_-
[05:33:01] <BlackMoon> looked at the pile of C/9 chips.. was like.. wonder how hot those are
[05:33:11] <BlackMoon> poke at em with an allen key and my IR thermonitor, over 100c
[05:33:23] <renesis> jymmm: i know i did those on it =D
[05:33:31] <BlackMoon> those C/9 chips get dense
[05:33:47] <renesis> and cmon like 2/3 of the open source community is at home in a basement getting stoned at any given moment
[05:33:55] <BlackMoon> renesis: haha
[05:34:10] <renesis> you know its the truth
[05:34:27] <BlackMoon> lol at farming in shiping containers
[05:34:36] <BlackMoon> geee I wonder who first thought of that shit.
[05:34:36] <renesis> thats why there are no docs for anything theyre too lazy to do it then they just forget and move onto the next project
[05:34:44] <BlackMoon> someone should really sue mitsubishi :P
[05:34:45] <renesis> yeah really, haha
[05:35:04] <renesis> haha @ hydro lettuce
[05:35:18] <renesis> im pretty sure all the led lettucwe i saw was dirt
[05:35:30] <renesis> wonder what media they use
[05:35:52] <renesis> mitsumedia
[05:36:36] <renesis> hehe, little expanded clay or lava rock mitsubishi logos
[05:37:34] <renesis> at a few grocery stores here you can buy lettice that still has its rootball attach with a bunch of soil along with it
[05:37:39] <renesis> 'living lettuce'
[05:39:19] <BlackMoon> lol
[05:39:30] <BlackMoon> I perfer my lettuce prekilled
[05:39:40] <BlackMoon> that way I don't get my hands dirty with lettuce murder
[05:39:59] <renesis> yarly
[05:41:17] <renesis> i need an ir thermometer
[05:41:24] <renesis> im still spit testing my led arrays
[05:42:04] <renesis> the dale resistor mounted on the far side of the old arrays never passes =\
[05:42:22] <renesis> and its got like 6" of the extrusion to itself
[05:42:55] <renesis> new ones are prob melting 4-40 holes into my counter
[05:43:22] <renesis> need to stick some 1" standoffs on the ends or something
[06:12:53] <BlackMoon> man, the negative lead angle of CCMT inserts sure doesnt like roughing
[06:13:18] <BlackMoon> or rather it likes to create stupidly hot chips for the SFM/depth/feed.
[06:14:49] <BlackMoon> got a nice SCMT holder that holds it at like 20 degrees that does nice roughing in steel though.. to a 20 degree shoulder anyway :)
[07:15:23] <Jymmm> http://cbs13.com/local/tracy.911.calls.2.1502690.html
[07:20:51] <elmo40> wow, weak
[07:21:03] <elmo40> Jymmm: did you get my links? about the steppers?
[07:21:37] <elmo40> http://www.homeshopcnc.com/RSstepperMotors2.html
[07:21:48] <elmo40> that was one link.
[07:25:07] <elmo40> http://www.linengineeringstore.com/products/product_detail.aspx?proID=4
[07:25:15] <elmo40> you may have seen that one before
[07:38:38] <Jymmm> yeah, thanks.
[07:38:56] <elmo40> setup being all equal, how strong is a 30 in/lb servo motor?
[07:39:13] <elmo40> 3" facemill capable?
[08:28:40] <BlackMoon> elmo40: Depends on your mill, a 3" facemill might be something you barly feed while flycutting
[08:28:55] <BlackMoon> or something you wanna push at depth and 20IPM
[08:29:03] <Valen> you saying the servo motor as the spindle or on the axis?
[08:30:40] <BlackMoon> also its usally lb/inchs
[08:30:52] <BlackMoon> not inch/lbs
[08:31:00] <BlackMoon> though I guess it doesnt really make any diffrence..
[08:31:59] <archivist> depends on feed screw pitch as well
[08:32:19] <BlackMoon> and if you gear it or not..
[08:32:43] <Valen> renesis you need a constant current switch mode supply
[08:33:44] <Valen> so a solar panel + battery produces more light than just sticking the plants in the sun
[08:34:13] <BlackMoon> when did solar power get into this?
[08:34:50] <Valen> (16:18:17) tom3p:
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20100113/179204/
[08:38:48] <bassogigas> bassogigas is now known as mk0
[08:48:30] <MrSunshine> hmm, sucks that hexapods needs 6 motors :P
[08:55:59] <BlackMoon> thats nothing, the octapod requires 8 motors!
[09:03:14] <archivist> and spindle :) 5 axis needs one less
[09:36:05] <renesis> valen: 22:59 < renesis> oh, but yeah the next protos i want to do emitters on thin pcb with boost iregs for 12V input
[09:58:16] <mk0_lan_died> mk0_lan_died is now known as mk0
[10:50:40] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[12:22:08] <jthornton> * jthornton wonders where he put the PID tuning tips from cradek ... I think it is on the dead 8.04 computer I do the docs on :(
[12:22:29] <jthornton> gotta get another mobo to that HD
[12:28:16] <mk0_lan_died> mk0_lan_died is now known as mk0
[13:16:56] <alex_joni> jthornton: put them in the cloud
[13:17:37] <robh_> jthornton, do you mean this wiki page for PID ?
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?PWM_Servo_Amplifiers
[13:25:02] <JT-Hardinge> robh_: yes and no LOL I've never seen that page but it looks good
[13:25:55] <MrSunshine> yeey first motor mount casted and ready for machining =)
[13:28:58] <MrSunshine> only thing now is to be able to center the damn thing over the workpiece :P
[13:31:20] <MrSunshine> and the fact that it looks like the whole damn pattern has twisted itself .. damnit :P
[13:33:08] <Valen> thats what the machining is for ;->
[13:35:19] <MrSunshine> Valen, aye, but its alot of machining to remove that twist not leaving enough for the actual piece to be to dimensions =)
[13:35:39] <MrSunshine> how the hell could it end up like that
[13:38:29] <Valen> what did you cast it out of?
[13:38:58] <MrSunshine> i have a wooden pattern, and sand cast it in aluminium
[13:39:36] <MrSunshine> sure sand casting isnt that accurate but the pattern is straight as an arrow
[13:39:50] <Valen> Al will shrink and warp a buttload as it sets
[13:39:58] <Valen> without seriously advanced mojo
[13:40:45] <MrSunshine> hmm ok
[13:41:28] <MrSunshine> it might be a bit of an illusion also, as the chamfer on the edge is a bit krooked
[13:41:34] <MrSunshine> its bigger on one side then the other
[13:43:24] <MrSunshine> oh well, its better then the wooden mounts i have on the mill atm :P
[13:44:18] <MrSunshine> and its my first real casting realy =)
[13:45:06] <Valen> make sure you have sufficent heat and sprues
[13:52:57] <ries> robh_:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?PWM_Servo_Amplifiers <= Should advice to where cloves on 'deflecting the motor by hand. Be careful to never do this in such a ........'
[13:54:30] <cradek> assuming you mean wear gloves: you should never wear gloves when there is danger of the glove being grabbed by a rotating thing
[13:54:41] <cradek> it's much worse to get wrapped around something than to get cut by it
[13:58:06] <elmo40> yes, serious mojo is required. MrSunshine, did you lose your mojo?
[14:00:09] <elmo40> castings can warp due to uneven cooling
[14:00:26] <elmo40> maybe one side was in a breeze? or more sand? or poured unevenly.
[14:00:29] <elmo40> pics? :)
[14:45:28] <JT-Work> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,30/id,1276/limit,6/limitstart,42/lang,english/#2181
[14:45:44] <elmo40> what, no tinyurl?
[14:46:32] <elmo40> http://qurl.org/Ax0
[14:46:45] <elmo40> for those who cant copy&paste so well...
[14:51:13] <aa-danimal-shop> nice JT-Hardinge !
[14:52:08] <JT-Work> thanks
[14:52:54] <Danimal-office> how long before the turret's working?
[15:03:51] <JT-Work> dunno I have to order a cap this morning, got side tracked yesterday and forgot
[15:13:49] <JT-Work> on order
[15:14:58] <clytle374> Remember when radio shack sold radios, and the stuff to make them? Now the sales person doesn't even know what a cap is.
[15:26:12] <cnc__> cnc__ is now known as archivist_cnc
[15:46:44] <Danimal-office> i hate radio shack with a passion
[15:47:57] <Danimal-office> everytime i go there to buy 1 stupid item, there's 40 illegals in line to set up prepaid wireless phones. takes 30 minutes to buy a roll of solder
[15:59:49] <clytle374> The last time I was in radio shed, only had this little tiny thing of solder.
[16:11:14] <MrSunshine> elmo40, well i fucked up the milling so the casting has been remelted and this time left in the mold for a longer while then last time =)
[16:11:22] <MrSunshine> so gonna see if this also warped
[16:12:37] <i_tarzan> iron casting?
[16:14:27] <MrSunshine> alu
[16:14:54] <MrSunshine> and destroyed my only 5mm endmill in the machining process :/
[16:15:03] <MrSunshine> im a bit greedy with speeds and depth of cut i think :P
[16:35:40] <MrSunshine> this less corse casting sand would be neat also
[16:35:46] <MrSunshine> getting a bit rough surfaces
[16:36:27] <clytle374> MrSunshine, DIY foundry?
[16:37:13] <MrSunshine> aye
[16:38:04] <i_tarzan> gas burner?
[16:39:05] <MrSunshine> propane
[16:39:09] <MrSunshine> homemade
[16:39:09] <MrSunshine> =)
[16:42:20] <clytle374> That's on my list of things that I'll never get too :(
[16:47:32] <i_tarzan> crucible size?
[17:04:23] <MrSunshine> atm i think it can take a maximum of 1 liter or so
[17:05:52] <MrSunshine> building a bigger melting furnace this summer tho =)
[17:06:01] <MrSunshine> oil fired
[17:14:45] <i_tarzan> very little, ingot or junk feed?
[17:18:32] <MrSunshine> junk =)
[17:21:20] <JT-Work> [ 219.176761] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[17:21:21] <JT-Work> [ 219.192211] rtapi: no version for "nano2count" found: kernel tainted.
[17:21:23] <JT-Work> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,18/id,2182/lang,english/#2182
[17:22:52] <cradek> the real error is this one: [drm:via_verify_command_stream] *ERROR* Accelerated 3D is not supported on this chipset yet.
[17:23:12] <JT-Work> ok, thanks
[17:23:25] <cradek> maybe he should install libgl1-mesa-swx11
[17:31:58] <JT-Work> cradek: thanks
[17:32:09] <JT-Work> did you see my video?
[17:32:27] <cradek> yes - cool
[17:32:33] <cradek> it homes and moves?
[17:32:36] <JT-Work> yea, it is alive
[17:32:36] <skunkworks> wait - video?
[17:32:50] <JT-Work> just the Z homes and moves the belt is shot on the X
[17:33:13] <JT-Work> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,30/id,1276/limit,6/limitstart,42/lang,english/#2181
[17:33:28] <JT-Work> I have a new belt on the way
[17:34:03] <JT-Work> I homed the Z this morning and ran some G code for the video
[17:35:36] <cradek> soon you will have a lathe
[17:37:07] <JT-Work> yes, I purchased a 16c to 5c adapter yesterday from flea bay
[17:37:42] <JT-Work> yes, two lathes one with lots of knobs and wheels and levers and one with a lot of buttons
[17:38:12] <skunkworks> great!
[17:38:51] <dave_1> I'm attempting to upgrade to 2.4 (stable) ... set up the emc2-buildbot.list but have run into some dependencies ... that agp-get -f install won't fix
[17:39:01] <dave_1> what next
[17:39:28] <i_tarzan> JT-Work, pic?
[17:39:43] <JT-Work> of?
[17:40:04] <i_tarzan> 16c
[17:40:15] <JT-Work> the adapter?
[17:40:55] <i_tarzan> yes or both lathes
[17:42:07] <JT-Work> I don't have the adapter yet but this is the instructions for onehttp://www.shophardinge.com/assets/PDFfiles/B050E%28LR%29.pdf
[17:42:40] <JT-Work> Hardinge photos
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/
[17:43:14] <frallzor> awful...
[17:43:18] <frallzor> awfully nice that is
[17:43:30] <JT-Work> a photo of the Samson
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Machine%20Shop/
[17:43:34] <JT-Work> lol
[17:43:41] <i_tarzan> no 4 jaw chuck works on Hardinge?
[17:44:05] <JT-Work> still looking for a chuck when I don't use collets
[17:44:35] <frallzor> arent there like a millions Chucks in the states? :P
[17:44:37] <frallzor> *funnu*
[17:44:47] <frallzor> *funny* even
[17:45:08] <JT-Work> I'd imagine but I wanted to see it run first before I purchased anything
[17:45:30] <skunkworks> they prefer charles
[17:45:45] <frallzor> yeeey skunkworks got it!
[17:47:21] <jackc> that vice hit prolly made some noise
[17:47:54] <JT-Work> got my attention real quick
[18:07:25] <dave_1> Trying to install 3.4 (stable) from buildbot ... error libscim8c2a ( >= 1.4.9 ) but 1.4.7-3ubuntu8 is installed ?????
[18:18:48] <i_tarzan> JT-Work, price of broken cutter?
[18:37:19] <dave_1> Make that 2.4 (stable)
[18:44:57] <clytle374> Broken telescopic antennas work quite well for releasing pins in tyco connectors.
[18:45:14] <clytle374> Which i real handy after sticking them in the wrong hole
[18:45:19] <clytle374> is real
[19:10:56] <e|m|blyton> Hello
[19:11:28] <Eric_K1> hi
[19:11:34] <e|m|blyton> Got another job, still haven't worked with numeric control.
[19:11:51] <e|m|blyton> Had to mill manually many details.
[19:14:46] <e|m|blyton> I want to say, it is always better to choose small cutting depths. High-speed machining should normally be done this way.
[19:15:00] <e|m|blyton> Talks about kinematic hardening looks odd to me.
[19:15:32] <elmo40> clytle374: sad, isnt it? and Popular Mechanics would give drawings and parts list for cool gadgets, now it only shows what you can buy.
[19:17:38] <elmo40> MrSunshine: messed up the machining? :( cant push 5mm. I plan to move out of this townhouse and onto some property THEN make an Al melter and larger CNC machine (thinking Horizontal since everyone and they grandmother can make a vertical)
[19:25:18] <tomp> elmo40: 100 yrs of PM online
http://tinyurl.com/cx792u
[19:28:37] <clytle374> elmo40, I had to order a 2ohm sandblock for a host a few months back:(
[19:29:07] <elmo40> tomp: wow, DeVry was back in the 60'd?
[19:29:09] <elmo40> 's
[19:33:20] <albova> hi to all
[19:37:01] <albova> micges, are you here?
[19:43:19] <micges> albova: yes
[19:44:46] <albova> why if i start the program from terminal, it goes and from emc no?
[19:45:10] <archivist_attic> * archivist_attic spots DeVry..thats an old name
[19:46:26] <micges> albova: what you mean from emc?
[19:47:18] <albova> i run emc2 and start the python program file--open file.py
[19:48:01] <albova> i have some python interface and all ok
[19:49:02] <albova> i think that the problem is the wrong path
[20:15:11] <MrSunshine> elmo40, messed up machining as in to deep cuts and alu getting stuck in my 4 flute mills .. yes i know not to use 4 flute mills but its the only thing i got atm :P
[20:15:14] <MrSunshine> cant afford to buy more atm :/
[20:15:34] <MrSunshine> 0.2 at 304mm/min worked fine =)
[20:15:35] <cradek> MrSunshine: wd40 helps if you don't have a coolant system
[20:15:50] <MrSunshine> cradek, that lifts the damn mills up on the surface of the metal :/
[20:15:57] <MrSunshine> i guess dull mills :P
[20:16:15] <MrSunshine> had them for like 5 years and never had money to buy more/new ones :/
[20:16:19] <MrSunshine> not much milling done with them tho
[20:16:26] <MrSunshine> maybe an hour a piece or so
[20:18:22] <MrSunshine> remade the stupid cnc program but forgot to set operation priority
[20:18:36] <MrSunshine> so had to change to a center drill in the middle of th eprogram then back to the 6mm mill
[20:18:46] <MrSunshine> at a like 25mm clearance from the workpiece ... not easy :P
[20:21:15] <MrSunshine> http://pici.se/554700/ http://pici.se/554702/ http://pici.se/554704/ http://pici.se/554705/ almost looks professional dont it? :)
[20:21:21] <MrSunshine> my first real casting and machining of casting =)
[20:21:31] <MrSunshine> tho not much of the machining is showing as the motor covers it but hell :P
[20:21:59] <MrSunshine> and in the bottom the wooden things, they are my current X and Y motor mounts :P
[20:23:48] <MrSunshine> got some backlash etc due to the wooden mounts tho :/
[20:23:56] <MrSunshine> as the motor can turn some before it starts moving the table =)
[20:32:52] <Eric_K1> I had to reboot the garage door opener twice in the last week
[20:37:40] <frallzor> http://pici.se/p/plRPAjYnC/ any comments? Bored som Im making mice
[20:37:43] <frallzor> *So
[20:38:39] <Jymmm> if you're bored, make me a cheesebrger
[20:38:58] <frallzor> I could, if you pay the fedex shipment
[20:39:10] <Jymmm> free delivery bitch!
[20:39:18] <Jymmm> in 30m too
[20:46:34] <i_tarzan> MrSunshine, stepper mount?
[20:47:08] <MrSunshine> aye
[20:47:34] <frallzor> since its show and tell now,
http://pici.se/gal/oddname/MM%20skenor/ have a look at these!
[20:47:59] <MrSunshine> uggliest things ive ever seen
[20:48:48] <MrSunshine> ;)
[20:50:28] <frallzor> 10m of machined L-rails
[20:50:49] <frallzor> angle iron even
[20:52:04] <MrSunshine> =)
[20:52:09] <MrSunshine> used for? :)
[20:52:30] <frallzor> my build
[20:53:50] <clytle374> One the 5V supply for the Mesa daughter cards, do I really want to pull the power off the 5i20 that is getting its power from the PCI bus?
[20:53:55] <clytle374> Seems wrong
[20:55:10] <MrSunshine> frallzor, yeah but what are the purpose of them ? :P
[20:55:14] <MrSunshine> purley estetic? :P
[20:55:17] <archivist_attic> clytle374, if the pc fails the the 5v will drop and the servos etc will switch off not on
[20:56:53] <frallzor> tracks
[20:57:01] <frallzor> XY
[20:57:12] <clytle374> I was planning to use the PC supply, just worrying about pulling it through the card connector. Also the 7i48 is supposed to disconnect from the external power if the cable power fails.
[20:57:51] <clytle374> I guess the high end video cards pulled a lot of current before they got their own connections.
[21:16:00] <BlackMoon> I would'nt use my PCI power
[21:16:11] <BlackMoon> One short and even if it is fused, good friggen luck repairing that shit
[21:16:18] <SWPadnos> clytle374, apparently, PCI has a limit of 25W per slot (the card can optionally tell the motherboard it needs 7.5, 15, or 25W)
[21:16:26] <alex_joni> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/street_view_frogmen/
[21:16:28] <BlackMoon> remember your 5v bus is limited to like 20A with little localised current control
[21:16:41] <BlackMoon> so one short could quickly equal vaporised traces
[21:17:02] <BlackMoon> Or at least vaporise hard to find microfuses that likey control a lot of stuff on your PC
[21:17:25] <BlackMoon> If you REALLY must use the PC power, export a hard drive connector or something.
[21:18:18] <SWPadnos> you can just as easily short an external power supply to something that it shouldn't be shorted to
[21:18:54] <SWPadnos> I agree in principle that I prefer it when my computer doesn't reboot if I brush something across an external contact though
[21:19:05] <archivist_attic> I see little problem getting pullup power
[21:19:50] <i_tarzan> alex_joni, maps url?
[21:25:37] <BlackMoon> SWPadnos: Yea, but shorting an external power supply isent likey to fry microfuses, traces on your motherboard or other hardware in your PC
[21:25:56] <ds3> 7
[21:26:02] <BlackMoon> And shorting a hard drive connector also won't blow microfuses or fry traces on your motherboard (Might still damage some hardware and likey cause a reboot or something)
[21:26:04] <SWPadnos> depends on what those external connections connect to in the PC, doesn't it :)
[21:26:18] <SWPadnos> sure, the supply should crowbar
[21:26:30] <SWPadnos> but it will cause an unexpected shutdown
[21:26:54] <BlackMoon> SWPadnos: of course. Just trying to minimize risk
[21:27:08] <BlackMoon> I don't even like powering my prototypes off USB power.
[21:27:26] <BlackMoon> something that should be somewhat limited.
[21:27:49] <BlackMoon> (final prototypes sure, but not when im still rewiring everything every other day)
[21:28:25] <renesis> great way to blow up a host controller
[21:29:13] <clytle374> I'm getting ready to test one encoder input using the cable power.
[21:29:15] <BlackMoon> yea lol.
[21:29:25] <clytle374> after that I'm going to power the 7i48 with 5V off a cut hard drive extension, unless someone screams NO.
[21:29:42] <BlackMoon> lol.
[21:29:56] <BlackMoon> nah im ok with HD power if you don't have a much better option
[21:30:19] <SWPadnos> just don't directly plug in a floppy connector - it'll fit but the pins are wrong
[21:30:33] <SWPadnos> you can move the pins around though, after pulling the 12V wire out
[21:30:51] <clytle374> where is pcw at? He stopped me a few days ago from powering the 5i20 through its P1 connector. which is an out, not an in
[21:31:03] <clytle374> The card has the screw terminals
[21:31:23] <SWPadnos> oh, interesting
[21:31:37] <clytle374> So does the5i20
[21:31:46] <SWPadnos> must be a new design
[21:31:48] <BlackMoon> SWPadnos: ... -_-;
[21:34:13] <clytle374> I'm gonna go test the encoder, I'll check back. :) I'm actually putting things together now:)
[21:55:30] <BlackMoon> clytle374: scary
[21:57:03] <clytle374> :)
[21:57:54] <MrSunshine> any good music to recomend me? :)
[21:58:28] <clytle374> triple checking now, at this rate the machine should be running about the 12th,
[21:58:35] <clytle374> of nevember
[21:59:11] <MrSunshine> =)
[22:01:57] <SWPadnos> what year?
[22:02:29] <frallzor> * frallzor is happy today
[22:02:57] <archivist> we shall record any time estimates and demand picture and videos :)
[22:05:40] <alex_joni> MrSunshine: 21 guns by green day
[22:06:07] <archivist> MrSunshine, beardyman on youtube
[22:08:45] <alex_joni> either that or "down with the sickness"
[22:09:06] <alex_joni> by disturbed
[23:40:42] <Jymmm> Scroll about half way down...
http://cgi.ebay.com/40W-CO2-Laser-Cutter-Engraver-Engrave-and-Cuts_W0QQitemZ230444649096QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a7924a88
[23:40:48] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlW1s2BNixo&feature=player_embedded
[23:43:06] <Valen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIRQf0S3oD0&feature=player_embedded
[23:43:22] <ds3> Jymmm: you WANT the Mach3 upgrade card with that thing
[23:46:28] <bill2or3> that seems cheap, unless it's total junk.
[23:50:26] <robh_> skunkworks, haha u found my video already only justfinished post it on forum etc
[23:51:27] <skunkworks> that is awesome work!
[23:51:43] <skunkworks> (I posted to the thread on cnczone - samco)
[23:51:54] <robh_> one day i will find a nice part to make and video on it
[23:51:56] <skunkworks> (so I get emails)
[23:52:02] <ds3> bill2or3: for the most part it works
[23:52:42] <bill2or3> in 5 years everyone will have one. :-)
[23:52:51] <robh_> aah grate currently working on 2nd lathe upgrade now
[23:52:58] <bill2or3> I'm getting one when they hit $500.
[23:54:46] <Valen> robh nice machine
[23:55:15] <robh_> yeah its not bad for 1985 tech ;) with its old motors
[23:55:33] <Valen> servo or stepper? it sounds like stepper to me ;->
[23:55:38] <robh_> Servo
[23:55:43] <robh_> brushed DC
[23:55:52] <Valen> funky
[23:55:57] <Valen> whats yer travels like?
[23:56:01] <robh_> 10m/min
[23:56:09] <robh_> accel 2000mm/sec^2
[23:56:11] <Valen> I am sooo jelous of your tool changer lol
[23:56:46] <robh_> lol, it took abit of getting the spindle to orientate that sweetly, controling the vfd
[23:57:29] <robh_> old drive was easyer, as u could just ask it to do orientation and it did it all for you
[23:58:00] <skunkworks> did you use a pid loop to orientate?
[23:58:24] <robh_> yes, stole the mazak config stuff, then hacked it into a working state
[23:58:31] <skunkworks> nice
[23:58:42] <robh_> i have to spin the spindle, and reset on mark then put it into a PID loop
[23:58:45] <Valen> I'm wondering if its possible for EMC2 to be able to switch modes from mill to lathe, if we have a rotary table stage that can spin fast enough for lathe work
[23:59:01] <skunkworks> I might be glad that ours is mechanical. :)
[23:59:08] <robh_> Valen, that would be mroe of a mill turn then
[23:59:22] <robh_> u have a locking pin on the spindle?
[23:59:39] <skunkworks> cog
