findux: I'm not sure what your asking
how'd the mobo mount?
how'd you support the cards?
or sit your choice :)
standing at attention by my computer sir!
my son won the regional lego bubble gum machine competition
[01:17:34] <DaViruz> http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=162
anyone tried one?
[01:17:49] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/computer03.jpg
Eric_K: congrats to him!
we used to have lego building competitions at the local mall when i was little
jt-plasma: looks nice
jt-plasma: about emc2 controled robot arm .I saw a aplication .robotarm have a milling motor on head. and milling like to 3 axis machine. but I don't understand how to use gm code in robot arms. can I use directtly gm code in emc2 controled robot arm
DaViruz: yes I tested one out to write the chapter in the manual on how to hook one up
jt-plasma: looks good!
jt-plasma: oh, on a close look at that page i see the cnc4pc reference now.. :)
so what are your thoughts on it?
you just have a bar going across the top of the 3 cards? is it pretty sturdy?
DaViruz: worked for me... if I needed one I'd buy it from cnc4pc
danimal_garage: seems to be, I plan on putting a couple of posts to the 6061 place just to tie it down in the Z plane
i'll try one then, thanks
DaViruz: don't forget the pendant interface card
i like your HD mount... is that just one from a pc case?
i tried to find one like that, but the only decent one was in a case i didnt feel like butchering
yes, I just need to trim it down to a single wide
I went through 6 cases to find that one LOL
did you do the plate on your plasma?
cases of beer?
oh no, I went to my other shop and used the cnc BP
you still need the processor, right? i'm going to the post office in a few
I would not be typing after 6 cases of beer, drinking or toting
yes, that is an old board that just barely squeaks by... in the cpu department
the post office is still open?
i just found that my 8mm 12 point ratcheting wrench fits perfect on a 1/2"-13 tap, making it extremely easy to clean the threads on my mill vice
it's 5:30 now
no wonder cali is broke ours close at 11 on saturday
Closed on Monday - holiday
Jymm: i know, that sucks, i gotta ship stuff
got a good excuse anyways
I never could figure why the P-Off delivered on Saturdays for free
so people would use them
they keep talking about getting rid of that
post office doesnt have too much business lately
at one time, almost everyone worked until noon on Saturdays
online bill pay, email, etc
danimal_garage: wait... where are you?
he's right there
the whale's vagina
jt-plasma: you have had machines shipped haven't you?
who did you use?
danimal_garage: I'm sorry
jt-plasma: oh go smoke something!
independent shippers each time
just razzing you
it was like 75-80 here today
I'm looking for a mill to retrofit, but all the good ones are way away from me.
is there a place to go to find the shippers?
the last one I bought the Hardinge I made the seller pay for shipping
mozmck: you can borrow my trailer if you need it to pick your mill
jt-plasma: FOB Bitch!
Free On Board
in your dreams =)
but, I'd offer free local dleivery
jt-plasma: thanks for the offer. Might not be easy though.
it's probably cheaper to buy a truck and pick it up
buy a full size chevy for $1500
drive and get it, then sell the truck for what you paid for it
the quote I got on the lathe (4500lbs) was $1000 from NJ to Missouri
mozmck: I found someone to ship my mill on uship.com
I've seen some mills that look interesting out on the east coast. I wonder what shipping to Texas would cost.
for a bp type mill?
jt-plasma: that's really good, i got quotes for more than that for in state moves
I saw uship the other day. cradek: what did it cost if you don't mind me asking?
mozmck: how bit of a mill do you want?
oh, a bp series two would be nice, or a small vmc with toolchanger
mozmck: I think it was $700 from wichita to lincoln
ok, I think those are both too heavy for a pickup and car-hauler trailer
the bp would be ok or a toolroom size vmc if you have real trailer tires
i rented a penskee to pick up my shizuoka from the bay area
you can do something like a series 1 on a car hauler if you go slow and are careful
$700 is not too bad. It would cost me $1000 in diesel and food to go to the east coast and back I bet.
yes the fuel cost is huge.
mozmck: you eat too much
I've got a dually 1-ton truck with a goosneck hitch.
jt-plasma: a series 2 BP is pretty hefty
I bet half of what I paid went right to the diesel pump
:) my truck eats more.
mozmck: the best part was he picked it up and drove it straight to my driveway
I can pull 30,000 lbs anyhow, if I can get a trailer that will haul it.
my double axle will haul 6k but you don't stop real fast with that kind of load LOL
My trailer is good for 5k.
mozmck: he called along the way and kept me updated, and I had a forklift/teleoperator rented and waiting when he got here. it let me concentrate on that part instead of a bunch of 50mph white-nuckled driving.
mozmck: south east texas?
A good gooseneck with brakes is what I need.
nah, north of Dallas about an hour
not too far from me then, just Arkansas between us
mozmck: have you tried the used machinery places in wichita?
no, do you have links?
there a series II bp on ebay for 1850
ask stuart s. there's at least one big place. I looked at a bridgeport there.
those are great for one-offs but without a tool changer I wouldn't want to use one for any production
I probably wouldn't be doing much production.
you want at least a QC spindle not R8
and for small tools and aluminum, their spindles aren't fast enough
anyone want a refill while I'm inside
yes don't get an R8 cnc for gods sake
you can preset your tools for the job
jt-plasma: coffee, double sugar, double cream
QC30 is not bad to use, but some stuff is a little hard to find
cradek: how fast do you want?
look up Kwik-Switch 200 it was poplar on the BP's
* Jymm secretly changes his nick. Let's see if jt-plasma notices.
Jymm is now known as Jymmmm
mozmck: depends if you want to use 1/4 or 1/8 tools for anything. at least 8k is nice, if so
HEY... If anyone finds a 1/4" to 1/8" collet, let me know please
you can survive with a 4krpm bp spindle, but you have to be pretty slow and careful.
Jymmmm: for what?
but if you do everything with 3/4 hss tools, that 1500 rpm sweet spot is perfect
cradek: was that to me?
Jymmmm: I mean what kind of collet?
hmm, might be doing a bit of small stuff, so I may want a faster spindle.
cradek: Just a straight shank
* jt-plasma hands Jymmmm a cup of fresh ground Columbian Joe
Jymmmm: don't you have access to a lathe? just turn one up and split it on a band saw
cradek: I have 1/2", 3/8" and 1/4" collets. No 1/8" available. No lathe either.
Quick question - can I correct for orthagonal error in EMC?
i hate the fact that my mill tops out at 4k rpm
beee: you could write a kinematics module to do it, but it's better to just fix your machine
is that module just a file?
it's C code that you write and build into a module that you then load in hal
there are some samples in the source tree
oh, c code
always forget about that
I don't think danimal_garage will make it to the USPS today :)
Jymmmm: what kind of collet?
For a router motor - straight shank
but there's still actually a collet, right?
ideally you'd get a real 1/8 collet
Doesn't exist afaik, I can stop by Bosch next week and ask
Jymmmm: like this http://www.cadcamcadcam.com/sleeve-adaptor14to18.aspx
jt-plasma: Probably. I JSUT read that those have a lot of runout *shrug*
a Bosch one http://www.acetoolonline.com/Bosch-92821-1-8-to-1-4-Collet-Adapter-p/bos-92821.htm
jt-plasma: thanks, I take that PN to the Bosch office next week
I bought my ruter from Sears (Craftsman), but it's really a Bosch router. and sears didn't even offer a 3/8" collet, but bosch did =)
* jt-plasma thinks it is time to switch on the magnetass button on the lazyboy and kick back a while
That button has been stuck on the ON position for decades!
just like your jerk button :)
we think we know one of the reasons why the cnc we got the servos off was scrapped.
[02:35:10] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/brushes.JPG
the middle brush is what they should look like
this was the yeckiest.
[02:38:04] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/yeck.JPG
[02:38:38] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/servo.JPG
[02:39:02] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/tach.JPG
we figure - if they didn't destroy them - they will probably last us a while ;)
all the brushes where hung up - crud
ahh that'll do it
i scored on a bunch of 4340 yesterday, i'm excited
perfect sizes for my fixtures
type of aluminum?
heat treated and annealed
much better than cold roll and a36
local metal yard aint doing so hot, so they let me pick through the rems and they give me an awesome cash price
anybody want to buy an M82A1 for $6,000?
new in the box
dont even know what that is
a simi auto .50BMG rifle :D
never seen one for less than $8,000
i'll make my own
good luck making the barrel :P
thought about making my own gun
there's plenty of gunsmithing forums
i'm not a gun guy though
as long as its not full auto you can make whatever you want and own/shoot
I'm working on some 10/22 receivers for myself
do you have to register them?
i wanna be able to take them to a range
what about permits?
or serial numbers
I think its still fine
and loose my 70 degree winters? :)
move to AZ
i'd rather skip the 110 degree summers lol
I thought that was the fun part
anyway, I dont think you could own a .50BMG without a special license
i was just thinking a small hand gun
but you can for a .338 lapua, which is just as good almost
here, you would like this...
just in case someone broke in and managed to get through the dogs
but there isnt anything in here worth enough to deal with them
you can get a 1911 pistol basically done, just need to cut the slides and maybe drill a couple holes, then assemble
no serial numbers or other garbage
well i'd like to build it myself entirely
then do it :)
when i have time
i have a 306 on it's way this month
there are plain casting floating around too
i'd like to be able to carry it at all times
(not the 306, the pistol)
you need a license to conceal carry, which is nearly impossible to get in cali
how about in plain sight?
open carry? I doubt thats legal in cali, but check
can i sit on my front portch with a shot gun? lol
[03:02:29] <WalterN> http://www.californiaopencarry.org/faq.html
on your own property it should be legal, but then again, its cali
damn, cant take it to the post office
thats a federal thing
for any state
i needed it for the trip to the post office lol
cause the BATF wants to control everything gun related
bunch of gang bangers hang out on the bike path
dont get me started on the BATF
all federal ground is off limits for 'normal' people to take their guns with them
even after being finger printed, background checked, eye scanned and DNA tested for a conceal carry permit
* WalterN goes to the store to get a few thing to make cookies
hmmm ya know, it might not be too good of an idea to have a fast braking spindle on the hardinge if i'm using a chuck on the tapered spindle nose
i might make a plug that i can thread into the collet closer to keep the chuck from falling off accidentally
danimal_garage: I thought tapered spindles are the safe ones for braking
whats a good diy way of changing spindle mounts
cradek: i suppose it's better than threads
but it could still come off
seems like braking and cutting forces are going to work against it exactly the same way
does your homemade taper match really well?
i got the data from someone who got it from hardinge
3 deg 48 min 57 sec
oh I bet that's some inches-per-ft
i blued it and it seems like it has good contact
the t slot could keep it from falling off, but it's still gunna get loose in order to move down to the reverse part of the t
right now i have a bunch of different spindle plates,
one with a rotozip mounted on it and another with a dremel
and then those have 6 bolts to mount it to the z axis plate
takes some time to change
danimal_garage: that's 0.8 inch/ft taper
everyone always says 4 degrees, but it's definitely not
well 0.8 inch/ft is 3.819 degrees. 3'48''57 is 3.816 degrees
but yeah, neither is close to 4 :-)
I bet a dollar the taper was originally specified as in/ft
nobody would pick 3'48''57
what's that in metric?
er 3o48'57'' or however you write it
Jymmmm: I'm not sure how tapers are normally called out in metric
Well, if it was in/ft wouldn't metric be mm(or cm)/m ?
cradek: you dont think hardinge wouldnt pick some oddball number to make it difficult for people to clone?
i didnt not use a double negative
in the old days I think tapers were always in/ft, and the number you gave is very suspiciously close to a round number in that format
as long as it doesnt fly through that thin plastic door lol
that thing could give a false sense of security
i really wish the door didnt open in the back when the front door is open
i dont really wanna soak my walls with cutting oil
i need to put something in the attached to the door so it runs back in the machine
B&S taper is .5"/ft, Jarno and Morse are about .6"/ft
in the machine*
good to know
I can't find any common one that's around .8
in case i need to make a morse taper
I'm thinking of adding a laser to the mill
well every size of morse is a different taper...
make it a laser cutter
my lathe is a 3
there (used to be at least) ~40W IR LED's on ebay
Valen: do you know anything about laser engraving?
not much why?
i'd like to set up a desktop mill with a laser or something for engraving
some of the IR Laser LED modules you could put straight into the mill as another tool I think
last time I looked at them anyway
the surfaces i need to engrave are slightly 3d
probably pretty slow for engraving metal, huh?
might have some difficulty tuning it for anodised stuff
the different colours will probably respond differently to the laser
the big ones seem to do a good job of cutting the stuff
i wonder how many watts i'd need
though your probably going to want to vaporise it rather than just melting it
probably not many, lasers are pretty scary powerfull
like a big propper cutter might be 200w continious
how do you control the burn? feed, or is the beam's power usually controlable?
controllable with a certain minimum
theres 2 modes of operation
theres pulsed and CW (continious wave)
most gas lasers run pulsed
the average power is about the same but the instantanious power is much much higher
yea i think our laser engraver did
like they run a 5-10% on time tops
but are still putting out 40W or 100W
so each pulse is like 2000W or something
probably better for your engraving I'd think
the pulses would get hot enough to vapourise the metal without heat affecting that much else
I was looking at using a IR LED + wax/metal/etc to make a 3d printer
but yeah, didn't really have enough power
what kind of controls or power supply is needed for a laser like what i need?
I'm not too certain for gas lasers
I have only really looked at LED
its big and hairy though
i guess i should google this
the LED's run at a few volts and a few amps
the gas ones are all high voltage scary stuff
high voltage as in over 100, or over 10,000?
10,000 + last I saw
like coils on a car
(which suck if you get zapped)
they work basically the same
theres a few different ones
xenon pumped ruby might be cheap these days
WalterN: Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has a sensible gun bill, it taxes those who do not have guns, says the constitution doesnt 'allow' bearing arms, it >mandates< bearing arms, and those without guns must pay.
that's a very creative interpretation - does he say what part of the constitution he thinks says this?
cradek: "Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals ""
its some newspapaer article, so isnt 1st person, isnt a direct quote
in certain parts of Alaska, you are required to have a gun on hand
law or survival?
huh, it's really amazing how many ways that one sentence has been interpreted
yeah cos they don't want to clean your remains up after you get eaten by a bear
there wouldent be anything to clean up :P
yaknow australia has ~5% of USA gun crime and that's after scaling it for population
tom3p: it might be a county requirement, not sure
i bet gun crime is a function of people per square mile, as you get closer, feet get stepped on
I bet that everybody having a gun has something to do with it too
although farming communities here have no real issues either
probably find if the americans couldn't shoot each other there would be more stabbings, or rockings/whatever is handy ;->
the right to bear clubs with spikes on
what is a bear club?
rocking sounded more american ;->
!google bear club
[05:02:57] <the_wench> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bear+club
bear cub, thats chicago talk
stoning I think has a better ring to it :P
danimal_garage this is a pulsed one http://cgi.ebay.com.au/30mJ-Pulse-High-Power-QCW-DPSS-Laser-Module-Cavity_W0QQitemZ270266773968QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3eed27b1d0#ht_1010wt_941
how come i'm having a hard time setting a second work offset in x on my lathe?
thanks Valen, checking them out now
ouch! i can buy a laser engraver for that much (used)
make the laser :P
I know a guy making one
im having a hell of a time getting the cutting tip on my lathe dead center
damn mini lathe
they used to be like $40 danimal
btw the bit that wears out in the laser engraver is the laser module itself
dunno, havent looked in quite some time
frysteev: stick your 6" scale between the tool and work, and adjust the height until the scale sits vertical
i cant find anyway to adjust it on my lathe other then making shims.
ah, no adjustment
what kind of tool post?
its a 7x12 mini lathe
no up down adjustment that i can see
cradek: i'm trying to use a different work offset on the lathe, but i cant seem to get it to zero in x.... it always goes to some oddball number
its a cheap thing where you can mount 4 tools on it and rotate it to switch
like -4.2156 inches or something
g10 l2 p2 x0 => clear g55's x offset to 0
what about 56,57,etc?
oh duh ok
what's the 12?
get a better font, yikes!
makes more sense lol
crap i should probably eat dinner
danimal_garage: Another pizza, or pop-tarts this time?
[05:35:10] <Valen> http://www.geekologie.com/2010/02/zippity_zap_killing_mosquitos.php
I had another burrito
you guys see the cnc pizza maker?
I can imagine
I was thinking you could stick one in the back of a van and do away with the pizza store all togther
[05:41:19] <WalterN> http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil
is a process I would like to stick in the back of a van
diesel on demand
[06:33:35] <tom3p> http://www.biggreentruckpizza.com/
if i can find a Dodge Power Wagon again, pizza comes to you
sounds like that one is just an oven on a truck
truck goes to venue, people make pizza in it, truck leaves a few hours later
not quite as cool as a CnC pizza oven that takes web orders, and updates the route on the GPS for you
i found this early today, nice simple electronic simulator http://sol.gfxile.net/atanua/
and a nice explanation http://sol.gfxile.net/files/atanua080326.pdf
tom3p: Needs Java http://www.falstad.com/circuit/e-index.html
Jymmmm: good resource, i may reinstall java 1.6 just to look, thx
tom3p: All the circuits are simulated, even with electron flow
the other url was interesting in the connected box theme that goes along with the hal gui
electron flow? ben franklin or the other way? :)
gotta crash, too many hours staring at asm code
I naively thought that there'd be five people in here, max.
Clearly I was wrong.
Mantrid: why would you think that?
actually there are no people in here
I don't know why really. I found out there's a channel on IRC from a forum, so its my first time here.
I'm sure there's a wealth of information available here.
there is information here?
why does my cnc taste minty?
'cause it's cute 
 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minty_(toy_pony)
* Jymmmm smacks alex_joni
Jymmmm how goes?
frysteev: not bad, messing with arduino
spindle mounts for my rotozip and dremel done and done
arduinos are fun
frysteev: didn't want to tell you the obvious answer why it's tasting minty.. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minty
alex_joni: I don't think I want to know how you know that.
cnc timing belts,
do you just by them by the foot?
number of teeth as they are continuous
i have a ton of gears and pulleys for a certain size, but not sure what size it is.
i have one belt which fits the teeth and it is labeled 0911-0920 214
i need soemthing with that, but twice as wide..
measure the circumference divide by no of teeth
that gets you the pitch
[09:23:54] <Jymmmm> http://www.youtube.com/group/wiring#p/a/10/fAZ6ATVItbc
Jymmmm: do you ever sleep?
once in a while
so what cnc toys do you have anyways? :P
yay for cornbread and cookies
jt-plasma: Thought of you when I saw this.... http://media.youdrivewhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny_Car_68.jpg
heh forgot I was logged in allready :P
are the example ngc files located somewhere on the web?
[14:22:43] <jthornton> http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/catid,9/id,1892/lang,english/#1892
[14:30:28] <Jymmmm> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=tree;f=nc_files;h=23fbd6bc4424562348d2da7ea54d09ad6a1933ec;hb=HEAD
jthornton: Use the RAW option if you don't want the line numbers.
Jymmmm: thanks, got it now
a guy on the forum was wanting to look at example files when booting from the LiveCD
I just checked and they are not on the LiveCD AFAICT
Since you can install from the LiveCD, I suspect they are.
I mean without installing
yes they are on the live cd
along with some python scripts too
I didn't see that but I'll try again in a bit
the scripts are input filters and can be opened in AXIS directly
cradek: Heh, I had to DL the iso and create a VM. I thought they were there "somewhere" =)
LOL, it's not that bad.
Took MUCH longer to DL, than actually config and boot
* archivist stops for coffee, a lathe has moved 5 ft towards the garage
archivist: unloading your haul today?
archivist: spin the tires and left off on the brake. betcha it'll move more than 5 feet =)
they are all on the ground
archivist: Then use the reverse gear
archivist: how are you moving them over the ground? i have to move a 2660+lb machine into my garage ( if i can get someone to lower it from their truck onto my driveway )
tom3p: I used two come alongs to move my 4500lb lathe off the trailer and a floor jack and some round stock to move across the floor
jt-plasma: Thought of you when I saw this.... http://media.youdrivewhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny_Car_68.jpg
we have used stratigically placed holes in the floor for pull points...
1/4" diameter rods work well too
lots of em
That how we moved 3000lb safes
* jt-plasma goes back to building a retaining device for a hard drive
jt-plasma: duct tape
duct tape is too insulating.. wire-ties
jt-plasma: CRAZY GLUE!!!!
skunkworks: Stop making sense, you'll confuse the noobies.
skunkworks: i like the idea of holes in floor for pull points, the interior of the garage is plaster & lath, so its difficult to use any of the framing ( also have a full length hot water radiator along long wall,... 1900's garage for washing car indoors :)
the sellers name got me to look, cnc this tool! http://tinyurl.com/yzvxln7
one more piece of the Hardinge puzzle done!
what'd u get done jt-plasma?
jt-plasma, stop pasting the [IMG] tags!
Guest369 is now known as skunkworks
yea, that's a PITA
so - who has a good source for brushes? http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/brushes.JPG
and cheap.. Need atleast 9 (8 per servo)
we now know Y is also 3 threads per inch ball screw
the only thing we don't know is z. but we are assuming it is the same.
skunkworks: maybe you could find a bit of copper-graphite from a shop that does edm, and cut some up, the rear end of an electrode is useless after the tool is used up, it's just grip stock.
did I do that
danimal_garage: I got the HD mount done
jmkasunich: you were right about this servo http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/yservomaybe.JPG
it took about 80amps to create 20ft-lbs of torque.
(dc welder as the supply ;))
tom3p, we considered a hole in the floor, but rollers reduce the fiction enough, lever, jack and a small electric hoist pulling sideways
one machine in the garage!
tomp: do the edm elecrodes have wires cast into them?
I love the fact that ppl are so odd. I try to give some constructive critisismen and suddenly Im jellous since I "cant afford the same things" :P
frallzor: who'd you piss off?
just answered a Q for an online "friend" with a common interest for filming
suddenly since I didnt like what he showed Im jellous :P
apparantly I'm poor too
frallzor: welcome to the world, enjoy your stay!
was it a picture of his mother or girlfriend or something? lol
cant say I agree with his comment since my build is like 20x the cost of the product he showed :P
so I think ill bash his choice a bit more =P
oh yeah DaViruz make a "manöver" too :P
that won't fit on 40mm
maybe we can call it Reset
sure go with Reset then =)
you'll have to supply the font vectors again though
if you want it to look uniform
yeah the first dxf
do i need to add the "reset" to it?
or you do that?
i'll have a look at it later, i'm heading out now
..yeah you need to add the "Reset" text
ok then ill send that later
and i need to find double sided tape that is stickier
it adhered fine to the laminate but not to the plywood backing..
skunkworks: no wire, but wire and spring is suspenders and a belt
tom3p: are you saying that you really don't need the wire?
skunkworks: did you try Graphitestore.com?
pcw_home: not yet - just started.
Not cheap but a _large_ selection
pcw_home: these are the servos. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/servo.JPG
Looks like they need to be taken to the car wash...
heh - yes. we are trying to de-carbonize them. ;)
[18:44:03] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/servo/servo.JPG
all the servos had brushes that where hung up.. No wonder they scrapped the machine.
Ran it into the ground I guess
actually - we did look at the graphite store yesterday. Looks like we could get 12 or so for around $80
Do they have an exact match? Maybe you can shop around for the same PN
is that what is stamped on the brush? they say e27 but I cannot find a match. we figured maybe it was the harness
Not sure, did you find it by motor manufacturer or size?
(Graphitestore lists the OEM PN)
let me try.
if you go by mfg - they only list 3 brushes for inland.
and I don't have the brush part number. http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servotag.JPG
That might be a little old or obscure...
you got that right
hmm - wonder if a dishwasher would work well ;)
Any of these right?
[19:03:08] <pcw_home> http://www.helwigcarbon.com/catalog/productlist.aspx?MFR=1541
close.. they need to be .25X.437X between .8 and .9 or close.
I wonder if the second one down could be trimmed width wize..
old timer brushed motor cleanup: remove rotor, break off a piece of hacksaw blade whose width fits between sections, clean grooves, spin rotor & emery board the seat smooth, clean with dry air and dollar bills/ brake cleaner. ohm out or use growler, install new brushes... done.
you don't see a problem removing the rotor>
this one for sure needs the comutators machined.
Looks like maybe your E27 is a "grade"
Maybe could be trimmed but ou may still find the eaxt fit
right - I think the graphite store had some the exact size
they all have some resistance to ground. this one was the worse - about 13k. figure it is the carbon buildup.
the best one is 400k
Until you wash and bake dry, you probably wont know if there really is an insulation problem
the tachs look good also - they output 90v at 1200rpm (max rating of these servos)
we figure - if the previous owners didn't destroy them - we are not going to.
[19:18:25] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/computer04.jpg
they are about 1ft-lb per amp
now I just need to figure out where and how to mount the power supply and I'm off and running
Not still your wifes Motherboard I hope...
LOL, I was just kidding
Nice clean layout, must be a fairly old MB with no Ethernet
yea, it still has an isa slot left on it
at the bottom
thanks, I just found a cool place to mount the power supply so it will be out of the way
[19:36:05] <danimal_garage> http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v20/danielwilcox/?action=view¤t=DSCN0776.jpg&newest=1
you can see the bracket i made there, works pretty good
just some welded flat stock
basically just an l bracket with a gusset
I just need two pcs of angle to hang it from the top face :)
jt-plasma: is that inner box on a hinge or something? its at a funny angle
the monitor goes in there, and it's at an angle facing the operator, i think
pcw_home: that part is angled out a bit you can kinda see in this pic http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/hardinge01.jpg
or here http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/hardinge02.jpg
[19:48:55] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/control01.jpg
I am sure they won't be the highest performance.. the rotors are pretty massive but the price was right and they are high torque :)
hello, goodbye, hello
hi see you hi
Hmm, DIY shrink-fit tooling heater?
[21:59:25] <andypugh> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Henry-Induction-Heater-Generator_W0QQitemZ250578945440
looks like a great start on a 2kw ham radio linear amp
LawrenceG: all bands at once too!
hmm, the Hardinge just keeps rebooting...
jt-plasma: Thought of you when I saw this.... http://media.youdrivewhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny_Car_68.jpg
jt-plasma: Yo could put that on your goldwing
Jymmmm: saw that earlier
where would the stereo knobs go?
Think it for a sec
Think about it for a moment
jt-plasma: Just imagine having that and passing highway patrol =)
I can imagine real clear coming over a hill at 100mph and accelerating and seeing a highway patrol pop over the next hill about 1/2 mile away... Goldwings have real good brakes
I get long beeps with the memory out
Is this the same mobo from the last time we troubleshooted?
no, the one on the table I just put in the hardinge
booting from CD now
Jymmmm: do you think the hd got wacked while it was off the system?
ok, time to clean this mess up... all ISA cards stand up and march to the trash can
you want them?
I just went through that a year ago at work.. got rid of all the isa network cards/video....
still have like 30 pci network cards I probably will never use. (they only come in handy when the onboard network card goes south)
I still have plenty of mobo's without onboard network
need any? :)
I think this is a hayes 9600 baud modem!
dont know what it is, but i like it!
we still have some timeclocks that get dialed into...
holy crap there is a plasma cutter under all that junk!
I think I can safely throw this mobo away it has more ISA slots than PCI slots
i thought my pc was bad for having 1
no built in ethernet, sound, or vga either
only 2 usb ports
Grub loading, please wait...
* jt-plasma wonders what is wrong now
maybe turn everything off that you dont need in BIOS?
ahh hard drive is too big for the bios
I know how to fix that LOL
heh it is snowing now
LOL too big for bios, huh?
yep it is 160gb
wow, that's gotta be a pentium 1
or an early amd
how many mhz processor?
oh maybe a p3 or celleron
* jt-plasma wonders how much to allocate for the install :?
jt-plasma: what were you asking be about now?
jt-plasma: last I knew you were booting rom a cd
I have a socket 370 something mobo temp in there and I get error 18 from grub bios can't handle the size of the hd
so I'm installing again
and I wonder how much to partition to the install
how big is the hdd?
and the socket 370 is what? Pentium 3?
Yep, P3 and celeron
I'm trying 75gb partition size
YOu could just try reinstalling grub too.
TOO LATE for that LOL
[23:26:42] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/computer05.jpg
jt-plasma: what is that machine with the PC PS ?
[23:27:38] <jt-plasma> http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/johnplctech/Hardinge/computer06.jpg
for the PC
No no, what was that originally?
DUDE, I see the card with the 50p ribbon cable angling down - you need to give it some support.
rip out the back of a PC case or soemthing
jt-plasma: But, what was that enclosure originally?
a siemens control
oh its a cnc center
or a lathe?
newer version of mine
but it ain't running yet :?
making good progress though
took me over a month to do mine after i started
wish i knew where iput my camera
If I can get the 5i20 up and going tonight before I fall down and can't reach my beer I'll be a happy guy
you dont drink beer i thought
is all the machine wiring sorted out and ready to go into the mesa boards?
sometimes I do