Google Docs just lost my resume that I've been working on for the last few days.
jymm: there's one example of why I have zero (maybe negative) use for online software such as that. Do yourself a favor and get OpenOffice and do it on your own computer!
i am storing everything online in the hopes that skynet discovers it and finishes my homework
mozmck: I *JUST* got it back. The sad thing is it's a KNOWN bug. so wtf dont they fix it.
mozmck: I think I'm just going to toss everything over to zoho instead.
glad you got it back! never heard of zoho...
mozmck: zoho.com pretty fricking cool actually. You should at least sign up for an account
it's free for the main stuff
mozmck: you can even have your own provate chat thingy. And you can setup everythign to go over SSL too
I see. I still like my docs on my own computer.
and my software...
mozmck: Well, gdocs has gears for offlien use, I have to see if zoho has that too
oh, yes it does!
mozmck: if you install google gears, it allows you to have offline documents that are synced when you reconnect to the cloud
oh I see.
[02:23:44] <jymm> http://gears.google.com/
mozmck: I can even remotely control your desktop using zoho
probably not mine :)
pyVCP question: Is there a way to set the initial size and position of the windows that contain objects?
yes, with the latest version of EMC.
[02:27:34] <mozmck> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//hal_pyvcp.html#r1_5
Thanks I was looking in the wrong place
Anyone happen to know if the linux version of q-cad can be talked into putting out values for the XZ plane instead of XY ?
Oh nevermind. Opened dxf in gedit and see that it is sheetcam that is what i need to change.
Been using sheetcam for lathe roughing toolpaths and substituting y with x , and x with z in gedit...
can anyone tell my, how i have to write the gcode line for drilling a hole?
G81 R L P for what is de R L P?
numen, open the emc2 users manual in the following folder /usr/share/doc/emc2
then browse to the canned cycles section
skinnypup i tried with G81 Z-5.5 F50
but there is an mistake
I think you will need an R word as well , the retract height
but what does this rword mean?
i want to drill a few holes, all on x0 but y0 y10 y20 y30 etc
hown do i have to write this?
retract height above the part after drilling the hole
how deep you making these holes ?
5.5 inches or mm deep ?
ok was thinking about chipbreaking and cloging the drill
First you'll want to g0 to a location above the first drill spot
g0 x0 y0
z5 goes up?
g81 z-5.5 r5
z5 is clear above the surface, which should be touched off as z0 at the tool tip
rapid to xy, then rapid to z+5 mm <some safe height> then drill the hole and retract back to a safe height...
then you can g0 to x0 ywhatever and repeat the g81 line again
or similarly you could use g83 and add in a q value, which is how much it drills down before it goes to the retract and returns in the same hole and drills another q deep until you reach the final depth
ok seens to work
sure thing !
use a g83 on deeper holes so your drill doesnt clog and break off
this is first time, i trie to write a gcode with drill and yesterday, i wrote my first gcode file ^^
now remember the values you use here are relative to whether you are in g90 absolute or g91 incremental. when in incremental you can use the L to make it repeat drill an incremental xy distance L times
thx a lot
numen do you have a machine or playing in sim mode?
numen, if your still on and using sim mode put the following three lines in your mdi one by one.
g90 g0 x-1 y-1 z.5
g81 x1y1 z-.6 f20 r.6 l5
for what are these lines?
and think about where i chose to first locate in the g90 line, and how far each instance of the g81 line moves b/t drillings
just a quick example how do usefully drill multiple holes
i did simulation for that before
now i wanted to drill the holes ^^
for the center driller (dont know the right name in english) is it ok to use F50 in steel?
think of distance per revolution of the drill at the rpm you set
i use a kress with lowest speed
that last statement means nothing to me
well you figure your cutting rpm from the material and the drill diameter
what kind of steel ?
we cannot guess your rpm for a kress at lowest setting, only you have the details
normal lowest price steel
dont know in english ^^
thats ok , look at a few of these links
[08:05:54] <skinnypup> http://www.google.com/search?q=speed+and+feed+drilling+1018&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
and a handy linux program is convertall if you don't like doing the math
its in the synaptic repos
I gotta get some sleep, goodluck.
Hi and by archivist
been a minute since i've been on
what could i use for cooling?
i dont have the cooling and cutting fluid
a little oil can be used, or dry if light work
adding coolant to a hot tool can crack it
i would wait for cooling down the tool and after using cooling fluid
if your drilling holes a squirt of WD40 helps
normal oil would work, too?
cause i dont know, where the wd40 is ^^
not too much
otherwise it'll make lots of smoke
i does with less, too ^^
yeah, but i mean as the part heats up it'll make lots of smoke
but now, it makes a lot of noise...
mhm my driller is too long -.- anyone an idea?
you can grab onto the drill part with the chuck usually
yes, but tool is too long...
i think, i will have to drill these holes by hand (300holes) -.-
my chief would kill me...
z endswitch error, but no part there?
I'm logging. I don't understand 'link', holy_good_kid. Try /msg logger_emc help
good morning alone ^^
5:)) p.m., G'day all!
my center is broken :(
breaking things is part of the learning process
archivist the breaking is not the problem, the problem is, that i dont have here some more
or i just have 5mm but no tool for puting it in the kress
an idea, what i could do, without going buy a new one?
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Can I somehow markup the gcode, Subrotines, in GEdit?
or an idea, why its broken?
numen, you drilled at too fast a feed rate maybe
archivist: and? ridgitiy was huge enough to break the bit?
how can we know without a picture or video of you breaking it
archivist i use f50 for that tool
numen: g95 f.2 in mm would be better
But I'm not sure
f50 on its own means nothing
it was a 6x2 center driller
good_kid, be quiet until you understand
rpm i dont know, was a kress on lowest possiblen speed
numen, you need to read your kress manual to know the approximate rpm, lowest RPM will mean the greatest feed per revolution so thats the reason you broke the drill
rpm too low or feed too high, think, use the correct feed per revolution to avoid breakage
archivist i think, speed is higher than 1000rpm, that we used in education
i think between 6000 and 8000 rpm
a bit fast for a poorly mounted drill in cheap black steel
i know, but lower is not possible...
6000 will burn a tool without flood coolant at 6mm diameter probably
its a center driller
[09:58:28] <numen> http://img.directindustry.de/images_di/photo-g/zentrierbohrer-359110.jpg
how is it called in english?
they do not have flutes to drill deep holes either
i just went down 5.5mm
archivist what could be a solution for using this tool?
dont go too deep
dont cut too fast
is 5.5 too deep? f is 25
is there a picture of your machine on the web, model number?
f25 means 25 mm per minute, pretty much
numen, is your machine aluminium framed and designed for wood routing
Can I use #1 or #<_1> in subroutines?
Can I perform g33.1 on those lathes without the spindle's encoder?
I mean, for example, cradek's words about that sherline I looked at.
engage brain slightly, how can you do spindle synchronous motion without feedback from the spindle
and g33 is allowed?
I meant, g95 (not g33) is capable for threading of low-module threads (as ones with 1 mm pitch.)
milling a semi ball takes a lot of time ^^
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good evening,please help me for my problem on rtai with classicladder, i want finisch my maschine but i want a help for resolve a problem.i have more complex classicladder plc program.the maschine is complex, my plc have 100 rung and the cycle plc in upper classicladder windows is 150microsecond.i load the thread classicladder on :addf classicladder.0.refresh servo-thread 1.some times i have rtai time exceted and i have up
per the base thread at 160000 nanosecond.the problem is more small , but sometime is present.sometimes i have hwlimit axis 0 or 1or 2 , but the microswith and the input on the mesa card not low, i thing this problem is the rtai problem.the question is can i load the classicladder on another theread or how resolve this problem? please help me.
Yes, you can put classicladder on another thread. You can create a thread slower than servo-thread by 'loadrt threads ...' after 'loadrt motion'. There is a manpage for the threads component.
jepler, please can append on pastebin a example.please
sorry, I don't have a pre-made example.
ok i write in hal file: loadrt threads 1 and after :addf classicladder.0.refresh threads 1, but the time the threads 1 not is specification ?
jepler, ok i write in hal file: loadrt threads 1 and after :addf classicladder.0.refresh threads 1, but the time the threads 1 not is specification ?
that's not a correct loadrt line for threads.
loadrt threads name1=fast period1=100000
^^ that is a correct loadrt line for threads
did you read the manual?
no jepler yuu have a link for manual?
it's also installed on your machine: 'man 9 threads' in the terminal
ok i read. i want creat a thread at 1ms , for plc is good
jepler, if i load classicladder on another threads and not on servo-threads 1, the my base thread can be more small
jepler, ok thanks for help i load the classicladder on plc thread at 1000000 ns.the error rtai not is present.thanks for help and good day
hi all, i added tool #219 to table but get 'slot too large' error, im i stupid?
currently the maximum tool number is around 56
there is some ongoing work to fix that limitation, but there is not agreement yet about how it should work.
for now, just use smaller tool numbers.
hmm should the tool table include full bob info
and tap or die info
archivist: there is a comment field where you can put that, but it's not used for anything but human reference
it could define the head angle for a hobbing machine
dang, one of these years, the enter key on my keyboard will be worn out
it's getting a little sticky
... and I just realized nobody cares about this
had to de crumb and de swarf this keyboard some this week
hey look, time to go home
Silly question... When you bullet item(s), is it common place to still puncuate the item?
* speak engwish.
full stop yes I think so
* type 4000 WPM. etc
is there the first half of a sentence above the bullet list which is completed by each of the items in the list?
speak fluent gibberish.
if so, I'd say yes; no otherwise.
Here is a list of things:
* no period goes here
I'm good at punctuating
* things pulled out of my ass.
* but your aim is lousy
* banning lusers in ##php.
(I hate communicating with bullet lists)
cradek: Yeah i know, but it's what they want today.
time I dusted my resume off
2.5s attention span - literally
Well they say 2.5 to 8 seconds
archivist: Forget dusting, demolish it and start from the ground up.
it has the words, i just need to shuffle
From what I've researched, by old resume is WAY OUT
archivist: you might be surprised, it's really different now.
archivist: Do you know what a functional resume is?
Im over here not over there
yay i will be in the mesa club shortly! finally some proper I/O !
archivist: Well, get back on the planet already
my ballscrew from china is in customs at Coventry
archivist: where are you on the planet?
that explains a lot
150 ish mile north of pjm1
archivist that will be interesting to hear of the qualitat of the ballscrews
yes i'm right on the south part of the england, almost in the sea
pjm1, its a second hand thk class 3
ohh i like THK things, they are nice
and has the ends fitted with bearings
do you still have to notch to fit a gear on?
how much and how long?
imperial foot ish
oh that's right... 25.4 is one inch,
if you find a 28" 5TPI let me know
has the thrust block as well
I dont care what tpi is just fiddle the numbers
you would if it was 10TPI and you had a travel of 10 meters
c7 is rattle and c3 is 0 backlash iirc
in emc2 you are not required to have an integer number of counts/steps per inch/mm
so there is no problem with any combination of screw/encoder