jepler: neat! how's it sound?
cradek: it squeaks occasionally, and Z gets following errors (I haven't tuned any of them, just copied tuning values for Y)
HEI, u gatta see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quN37YskoaM&feature=fvst
micges go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quN37YskoaM&feature=fvst
A4NDY: nice, it's your toy?
nop, but kinda nice to see it...
[09:18:55] <A4NDY> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hEXwyJ2B78&feature=channel
someday these kind would decorate the whole building
put a "laser" / welder on the back... we re on
bigger bot required for the force
... or faking a signature
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[13:43:42] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quN37YskoaM
thats been spammed in here a number of times, thats the third today
That one was more detailed
archivist: go back to php and have a pagination flame war already ;)
just trying to wind up MikeSeth
go for it!
[14:05:15] <skunkworks_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quN37YskoaM
sorry - could not resist
naughty boy :)
[14:07:43] <Jymmm> http://www.hexapodrobot.com/projects/CNC_Hexapod/images/B.F.Hexapod_CNC_03.jpg
I wish the darn thing had a ruler next to it for scale
it has normal RC servos
I dind't know they were that strong
so you can scale from that
Nah, still want the ruler
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Why couldn't I build documentation with LYX 1.5.3?
BJT-Work: ./configure --enable...
from dev or 2.3.
2.3 from source taken from sourceforge
do you want to edit or just build docs?
f7ee__: html or pdf docs?
hmm, I don't think I have built 2.3 from 8.04 only from 6.06
build-dep emc2 only gives you the possibility to build pdf docs
just to build them, with lyx 1.5.3, not lyx 1.3.x
ah, that probably will be a problem
alex_joni: are there many things in those man pages, or they all are in the book, User manual?
the man pages should be available
if you do ". scripts/emc-environment"
you can browse the man pages online too
then you can use man command to see the manual page
but as BJT said, all docs are online too
getting any sleep yet?
[16:01:20] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview//2.3/html/
BJT-Work: errr.. :P
I am getting some this week.. but I'm travelling :D
so, i need to learn g-code, then try to get empoyed, altogether with some other engineering programs, demo works and so on. Then I'll add those program packages to compile emc2-sim from source to wiki at either ubuntu 8.04, 8.10, 9.04 and probably any k/x/ed/u-buntu distribution.
alex_joni: I worked offshore when my children were born so I got to sleep every other week at least :)
heh.. that's nice :P
also selfish :D
I'm wondering, how does EMC know what cutting bit is loaded in the spindle ?
SWPadnos: I finally got the 7i64 running with your script file. Disabled the WDog. Doh.
Xteven, there are M codes that can be used to select tools
that, in conjunction with the tool table (which contains sizing data), tells EMC2 how to handle gcode which requests cutter compensation
I still have yet to get my comp file to run correctly, but I'll keep dogging it. Not much time available, though. We're moving to the new house right now. 30 years of junk to move, storage to build, etc.
SWPadnos: is there a standardized set of toolbits ?
look at one of the *.tbl files in a sample config
or should the software that generates the g-code handle it
that's not necessary with EMC2, but it is often done in the CAM stage
the CAM software has information that EMC2 doesn't have - the intended part shape
EMC2 only has a path, but it can be told whether that path is supposed to be the center of the tool, the right side, or the left side
I'm gonna start small
and see how far I get, and how accurate :)
(building the cnc table)
neat thx :)
SWPadnos, you kickin around?
hey did you have to do anything special to get that video card to run on that gigabyte mb?
just worked for me.
different board I think
did your fan start right up?
(I was thinking goal3 ;)
yes, I think all the fans start up on high, then maybe slow down after the initial POST
skunkworks, yeah - a little different
socket AM2+/3, quad core Athlon ... :)
I get nothing no fan and no video
I think there are a couple of buttons on the MB that light up when you have standby power - are those on?
I'll check brb
wey my controlunitbox finally has a fan in it! =P
power button, reset.and cmos lights are on
ok, and hitting power does nothing. strange
do you have a speaker hooked up?
I'll try it
does this board require more than one power plug? - they all plugged in?
oh yeah - good point
that makes it seem doa
there is an 8-pin 12V connector
and could possibly smoke it, depending
(if it tries to pull all the current from the main connector)
what board is this?
power did nothing and all pci express's are pluged in with proper amperage
Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-U5DP, IIRC
six pin pci express
[17:47:18] <EbiDK|AWAY> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Support-Should-Never-Be-Necessary.aspx
there's a second power connector on the motherboard
looks a bit like an 8-pin PCIe connector
[17:49:07] <skunkworks> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=13-128-387-S04&ISList=13-128-387-S01%2c13-128-387-S02%2c13-128-387-S04%2c13-128-387-S03%2c13-128-387-S05&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16813128387&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=GIGABYTE%20GA-MA790X-UD4P%20ATX%20AMD%20Motherboard%20-%20Retail
it's between the SPDIF outputs and the heatsink that says "Ultra Durable"
lower left - white plug
it may have a sticker over half of it, so if your power supply has only the 4-pin connector, connect it to the exposed pins
otherwise, remove the sticker and use the 8-pin connector
don't use a PCIe connector
what do I use then?
the power supply should have a connector for that
if it doesn't, you need another power suplpy
do you have a link to your powersupply?
(the one in the Antec case I used had the correct connector)
[17:52:55] <skunkworks> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=17-139-005-06.jpg&Image=17-139-005-12.jpg%2c17-139-005-14.jpg%2c17-139-005-13.jpg%2c17-139-005-10.jpg%2c17-139-005-05.jpg%2c17-139-005-06.jpg%2c17-139-005-04.jpg%2c17-139-005-03.jpg%2c17-139-005-02.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16817139005&Depa=1&Description=CORSAIR%20CMPSU-650TX%20650W%20Compatible%20with%20Core%20i7%20Power%20Supply
says cpu power connector on the right
you have to be very careful about those cables
looks like it might be a double plug? hard to tell.
there are about 20 different standards now
that's the thing about standards, everybody has one
when I bought this computer, I ended up with a power supply that didn't work with it
It might have worked, but I don't believe in pushing the limits on PSUs
* skunkworks hands als a fire extinguisher
use just one 4 pin connector on 5,6,7,8?
you would have to read your mb manual.. (I cannot guess) :)
skunkworks, it just doesn't say much
als, the connector should only go inon one side - they use rounded and square shaped contact sheaths to key them
it should be at one side or the other, not on the center contacts
if it fits in either place, then use it wherever it fit s:)
it does say that fool proof
guy at work was able to plug the 4 pin cpu plug in backwards...
still worked though
(after plugged in correctly)
they both fit but do I use both
one on one side and one on the other
so - there are two 4 pin plugs? both in the same sheith?
corsair only shows a 4 pin connector and nothing in there book
I would say it is right - it says 1 x 12V(4/8Pin)
(corsair power supply)
what is the worse that could happen ;)
* skunkworks usually flys by the seat of his pants
thats it its working
rough life http://imagebin.ca/img/76yABVJE.jpg
als, cool. enjoy your ~40 second EMC build times now :)
[19:16:30] <f7ee__> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#Compiling_EMC2_in_a_simulator_mode_on_Ubuntu_or_Kubuntu_8_04_or_9_04
I want to compile it in real deal mode =(
frallzor: then use the same packages for your version of anybuntu
i mean those mentioned in whole that page
can i follow that guide? Im new to linux =)
frallzor: get some cocktail made of babanas and green veggies as parsley, get few minutes and read that page
that site only mentions simulator.
pretty sure that doesnt mean working like normal =)
frallzor: there are sacripts for ubuntu 8.04 and even a Bootable CD with realtime kernel
on the linuxcnc.org, at the left of the page
maybe should have mentioned i want it on 9.04 ;)
frallzor: right above that link, http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#Compiling_EMC2_in_a_simulator_mode_on_Ubuntu_or_Kubuntu_8_04_or_9_04,
there are realtime packages mentioned, install that one in 9.04
it still says simulator mode =)
correct me if im wrong, but isnt that a sign of not working fully?
5.2 or so of that page, RTAI = Real-Time Application Interface, then compile with `./configure --enable-run-in-place' `make', `sudo set uid' or so
the issue still excists, i dont know squat on how to do all that =P
frallzor: it will view or visualize g-code, help you to prepair the code for to be run to waste those non-cheap materials you want to.
will it control my machine?
real-time = you can not install it to laptop
well then I dont want it =)
it need a real-time kernel to control the machine
well if I copile one it should work?
5.3. RTAI from scratch, then compile with `./configure --enable-run-in-place'
it should be configured and tried, it's better to use that bootable CD and run Latency test on your Personal Computer
well I still dont know how to do it all, never used linux =) so i guess i have to wait for the next version that is lts
frallzor: no, try 8.04
I am running 8.04...
I need 9.04 for my touchscreen to work
frallzor: real-time kernel doesn't support usb flash disk, anyway. no matter 8.04 or 8.10 or 9.04
frallzor: ok, wait for alex_joni o someone who can help you
most have tried =)
it works flawlessly in 9.04
but messed up in 8.04
ok, i've understood it.
would be fun too at least find out what is making it work there =)
frallzor: `sudo apt-get update'
this command fetches repositories
i know =)
Let's try it
wait and i'll give you another command to try
try to install these packages: debhelper (>> 4.0.0), linux-image-2.6.15-magma, rtai-modules-2.6.15-magma, linux-headers-2.6.15-magma, gcc-4.0, g++, make, libc6-dev, tcl8.4-dev, tk8.4-dev, libgtk2.0-dev, pciutils-dev, libncurses-dev, gettext, libxaw7-dev, libreadline5-dev, lyx-qt, python, tetex-bin, latex2html, python2.4-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgnomeprint2.2-dev, groff, bwidget, tetex-extra
what will they do
then unpack that tarball and follow 5.5 paragraph, but use `./configure --enable-run-in-place' -- i.e. without words `--enable-simulator'
frallzor: they will add essential capabilities to your system. Standard installation CD or DVD doesn't contain these packages.
too much for me =)
frallzor: it's not too much, be ready to read some information, ead whole this page, try to understand how do the things work in debian linux
well you list some stuff to install, then unpack A tarball, which tarball? =)
see the linuxcnc.org page, then
find words `You can get it: as a source package from sourceforge , from Git , or as a precompiled pac'
where `sourceforge' is tagged as a link and leads to http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emc/emc2_2.3.1.tar.gz?download
this is waaaay to much for me
ill try too install the packages at least
read 5.5 and compile as a simulator for a start, then install real-time kernel and compile, for example, emc2-my_preparaton-H-1 as `./configure --enable-run-in-place'
that magma pack isnt working
ok, learn linux and G-code if your skilled speciality is somehow reated to the production by means of CNC-machines
cant find that packages
frallzor: try another with letters `rt' or `rtai', which mean real-time or real-time application interface. Search google for words like `installing RTAI in Ubuntu'
if it is this "easy" why are ppl not using 9,04 and emc2 then? =/
frallzor: it's easy, don't give up now
frallzor: do you have ATI video card?
anyway, just try
install as in 5.5 for a start
so just installif I try ill do it from scratch =)
with rtai in 9.04
without rtai in 9.04, then choose rtai-packages in 9.04 and compile emc2, now with support of rtai kernel
dont I need to compile rtai in 9.04?
it's hard, so as i wouldn't try
[20:07:45] <frallzor> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?RtaiSteps
this looks pretty straightforward
then follow it
i might try it tomorrow then, today is playday
which downloads three packages.
i'm using laptop and i will not try it right now. If i would need it, i would save data from HDD and try to install it, or re-install ubuntu and start again
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