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I need one of those with 3 more walls, siding and a roof
skunkworks, moooore shed space?
shop away from the shop
2.7 more wall
skunkworks: do you know how much that is going to cost?
eric_unterhause1: I don't know off the top of my head sans concrete - pretty close to 10k
how much was the concrete?
eric_unterhause1: I had them build something like that when I was having my house built in texas.
I would have to look
(that was 1.5 years ago
so little you don't remember? I'm going for that deal
It is 3 cars wide and 2 deep. About 1200 sq ft. It cost 20K including the rough in for a bathroom.
I am doing this myself
did you pour the concrete yourself? you got skills
this is 26' X 48'
actually - I had the concrete done. I am so done with concrete work.
it needed footing and frost wall.
I am doing the inside, insulation, sheetrock, ac, etc. myself. but had to let them do the outside. HOA Requirement.
HOAs are as close to an un-American organization as you can legally get in the U.S.
Near Houston, Tx
skunkworks: is the little house that's 75% of the shop size your house?
yeck. Here all you need is a building permit.
there are some areas here where even the building permit must not be required
cradek: yes - direcly behind the garage. (river on both sides)
here, building permit plus full plans stamped by an engineer
HOAs are everywhere here. It is hard to find a place without them unless you buy a ranch.
(and we're not even in the city)
electrical is a 'don't ask don't tell'
heh, that gets inspected here.
In a house it does.. but I don't really know about a garage.
so have an electrician put in one light bulb and a switch that turns it on...
with a 20 breaker panel "just in case"
maybe after the inspection is done, you'll even be lucky and find wiring behind the drywall.
The house will have a smaller box than the garage. I am thinking about backfeeding the house from the garage.
breakers just seem to show up in my breaker box, dunno how that happens
the power pole is right at the corner of the garage. I could have them hook the feed into the garage instead.
joggers do not mess with this on the bike path: http://fixedgeargallery.com/2008/sept/2/moabiker11_aim.htm
That is the way mine is set up. Everything enters the detached garage panels, then on to the house.
hm.. are all houses built there this way?
skunkworks: is there heating in the floor of the shop?
yes - that is the plan
this is a old old house. It was moved a block and put on a new poured basement.
How do you like your new shop?
is there 240 3PH?
heh - no. not at this location. I don't know how close 3 phase is.
We are 2 blocks up from mainstreet. so I would think it is close.
more importantly, are all the machines operational?
garage isn't done yet... So no.
* roh has the mill doing things the way he wants, slowly.. toolchain now: qcad -> camExpert (qcad-payware) -> .nc into emc2
I just noticed that EMC2 supports screw comp. I'm impressed.
tomp is now known as tomp3
[09:42:47] <tomp3> http://pastebin.ca/1402699
an idea of how to visualize a hal file (maybe)
also a demo
for years i looked at ways to do 'netlists' of hal files
hmm, i think i went thru dot before.. no bidirectional connections when directional exist
I want to submit two minor mistakes
(1) /usr/share/doc/emc2/ directory do not contains the gcode_main.html file with full description of the G-code used in the EMC2 program
(2) File `emc2_2.3.0_i386.deb' was too lage to download. It's too big. Be it 10-12 mb in size with additional emc2-doc_2.3.0_i386.deb, everything would be OK
Also, libpango 1.1 must be updated to libpango 1.20 if you don't want to update whole Ubuntu 8.04
Will same packets run on 64-bit platform?
will the script download other packages?
there is no 64 bit emc
you might be able to build it
So, I need a 32-bit desktop with PCI slot to use EMC2?
no, it runs fine on 64 bit
but 64 bit processors will run a 32bit operating system
if you have more than 4 gig of memory, you will not be able to use it
How can I install 32-bit Ubuntu 8.04 onto 64-bit desktop PC?
it will install
this computer is 64 bit, it runs the 32bit ubuntu just fine
also runs 32bit windows
And minimum RAM? I thought standard Ubuntu 8.04 need 512-768 Mb of RAM
so I have 3 boot options, emc, 64bit ubuntu, 32bit windows xp
don't know about that
to boot a live cd, that may be the case
I can organize partitions to use several different OSs
for livecd 8.04 need 512 or more
eric_unterhause1: no, it's relatively easy to buy a used PC for another 100 USD just for EMC2
* archivist uses free cast offs
memory might be expensive
It's OK, RAM is easy de- and attachable
Is it a common practice, that you are given a DXF file and you see you need about an hour or so to arrange diameter compensation and layers and so on? Is it an operator's task?
we are experiencing very low feedrate on arc type machining, can anayone guids me why... I am generating g-codes using cad program(dell cam)
how about those "machine generators"?
they have settings for different machines. You're probably using inappropriate ones.
cnc_engineer: can you pastebin gcode file somewhere ?
For example, it guesses the arc as many straight lines, therefore the process is slow.
the same g-code program runs fast on other controller e.g fanuc etc.
let us see that gcode, so we can tell what's the problem
cnc_engineer: you are operating in mm or in ?
at top of your gcode file insert line: G64 P0.01
then your machine will set in continous mode with maximal deviation of path 0.01 mm (you can't see difference)
machine motion will be much smoother
the explanation behind that http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Trapezoidal_Velocity_Profile_Trajectory_Planner
archivist: thanks for the link, I didn't know about that page
better fix is to fix the cam so it uses g2/g3 for arcs
latency test "10'000/12'000" Is it OK?
Can I get a network adapter for my machine and connect it to the network/laptop?
jepler: latency test "10'000/12'000" Is it OK? Can I get a network adapter for my machine and connect it to the network/laptop?
EatPotato 10000-12000 is fine for latency test, how long did u leave it running for?
pjm__: few minutes, tar.bz2+glxgears
it's ASUS's laptop
I thought about the connection through the network where available. But we might not have a network card for our machine.
i'd leave it running over night just in case the laptop does something odd every 10 mins or whatever
just to get an idea
pjm__: I have been told it switches off the acpi, so Im scared to leave it with real-time kernel so long for a while.
why? will it melt? plus if u are running a long cnc job with EMC2 u will have to leave it a while anyway
pjm__: yeah, I will do that. But I'm pretty sure in that test's results
how high rpm can a stepper run at?
noticed the rpm depends alot on the voltage :)
MrSunshine: it's probably depends on a machine's parameters
* jmkasunich is dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century
anybody in here use PayPal as a seller?
I've also heard that it isn't much fun
do you take any precautions to keep them from fscking with you (for example, a checking account _just_ for paypal, so they can't get their claws on your main account)>
yes, separate accounts
not just them, but the scammers too
the fscking bastards at ebay (may they rot in hell), no longer permit you to accept checks or money orders
I am this close to never selling anything on ebay ever again
that doesn't really bother me much
nowhere near the coverage compared to ebay
I want to sell a height gage
something like that, I would have no problem on ebay w/paypal
it's the big dollar items that scare me
if I hadn't spent the last 1/2 hour or more making up a nice photo of the gage, and then started creating the auction, I'd just say screw it
not digital, vernier
brown and sharpe
I've sold a couple thousand dollars on ebay, not a big seller, but no probs
naw got 1 of those already... ;(
my concern isn't the actual transaction, I've accepted personal checks for bigger sums and shipped without waiting to clear (if I got good vibes from the buyer)
im waiting for the clowns at work to 5s a microheight
I'm just reluctant to open a paypal account and give them a bank account number
we had a savings account that isn't linked to the checking
so used that one
I'd much rather deal with a guy who wants to steal my $40 or so height gage than a corporation against which you have virtually no recourse when they screw something up
so far my account thats hooked to paypal has been safe as has the c/card even though i have put in for investigations for a few reported things that never showed up on the card
paypal needs a credit card number and a bank account number, right?
it seems worth it to me, but I have lots of things I'd like to sell
* BigJohnT wanders out to the garage to run some legtricity to the compressor
yes, and they make a deposit to your bank account to make sure it works
yes and you have to get confirmed residence
I was going to open a small account at the credit union for paypal
maybe I still should
I should do something like that
jmkasunich: unless an item is extremely special and I don't think I'll find another chance, I just skip auctions that don't accept paypal because it's such a huge pain otherwise.
problem is, I can't do it today
cradek: yeah, I know my odds of selling are better if I accept paypal
I just want to minimize my risk of being one of the people who get screwed by paypal
I understand completely
especially skip non-paypal now because western union doesn't sell on-line money orders
jmkasunich, don't think that's how it works
actually more likely to get screwed as a buyer
you can always change your bank account on monday
the buyer can never get screwed for any amount in excess of the transaction value
I think the people that get screwed for big $ also had big paypal accounts
I have heard of various scams for buyers
I don't care if I get stiffed for the value of some auction - I just want to be double damned sure that some idiot at paypal can't do something stupid and get 10x that amount out of my account
and, the ever popular password stealing spyware
I have never heard of that happening
in the way that you imply
I may be paranoid
hey but they are out to get me..
but they way I see it, if paypal has the number for an account that contains $1K, nothing stops them from taking $1K from it except their own skills and honesty
I took our checking off of it because I thought the danger was a little too big
that, and the desire to stay in business
i've had nothing but good results and service so far
you can find horror stories, no doubt
but they generally are more than a little garbled
and they involve some big dollars
i had a bout of alcohol and e-bay 1 nite and ended up with 8 martin backpacker guitars ;)
people run substantial businesses using paypal, there are going to be some problems now and then
I always wanted _one_ of those
i got a black 1 left
my wife ended up with two playstations
I told her she couldn't bid on ebay any more
i wanted 2 1 for me and 1 for my son... his is now an electrified original martin and mine is accoustic
had a heck of a x-mas i gave away guitars ;)
dmess: you know you want it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180350579336
I just traded up - bought this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170320442566
mine is a Starrett also... you selling a nice "light" granite slab??
my son's will love see'ing that show up at the house im sure LOL
we hauled the hardinge into the basement last summer
there's 1 coming available @work but its 8' x 6' x 3' so not even managable til i get a proper shop
this is a decommisioned CMM with drives and touch probe
its just too sweet to pass up.. but i have NO where to put in
hey guys, great if warm day here, but have a gcode problem
what is the syntax to receive a list of vars from a call?
gene_: there are some global vars
which you could use
I've setup a list at the top of the file, using #30 and up, passing them in the call, but the sub isn't getting anything
Humm, I'll bet the call oword is the same as the sub/endsub, but how then do I chain them for repeat calls in the main code?
can I repeat the o100 call [list of vars] in the main code?
I'll see what upchucks
Ok, got it, my math sucks. :-) Now all I have to do is make it do it for 5 rows
humm, it should be doing 5 rows of 10 holes, but isn't, my math again I spose.
good night all
gene_: when you pass vas into a subroutine, they have numbers #1-#10
so if you do something like o100 call [#20] [#30] [#117+2*#118] ...
then #1 in the sub will start out at the value of #20
jepler: is stepconfig "dirhold and setup" 50000/50000 the right timing for Gecko 210 or does it not mater?
our flight tomorrow is cancelled
the good news is that we're stuck in Miami, and the newly booked flight leaves at 1:15 PM instead of 6:00 AM