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[01:15:31] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Business/Products/TV%20Video%20Distribution/Set-tops/IP%20Set-tops/VIP1200/_Documents/Static%20Files/VIP1200_524779-001-c.pdf?localeId=33
[01:19:18] <skunkworks_> cradek: it was g49 was the problem going between top/bottom progams. (or lack there of)
[01:33:45] <cradek> good, glad you got it working.
[01:34:31] <skunkworks_> it was your thought - I think i would still be banging my head against the wall.
[01:34:57] <skunkworks_> I would take a video of this but I would need more light and I think I have used up all the extension cords.
[01:36:14] <skunkworks_> 1 for vaccum pump = 1 for computer - 1 for rotozip - 1 for z axis - one for fan to cool vaccum pump.... :)
[01:36:50] <skunkworks_> I need to clean this up some day.
[01:36:51] <cradek> I have all sorts of experience screwing up offsets, so I can spot stuff like that fast :-)
[01:37:12] <cradek> a video would be neat, but I understand its a pain to do
[01:37:17] <jepler> man I need a vacuum table
[01:37:51] <skunkworks_> it is great. this was millitary surplus
[01:38:02] <skunkworks_> 1hp
[01:38:05] <cradek> the pump is the problem afaic
[01:38:35] <skunkworks_> (vacumm pump)
[01:38:55] <cradek> does it keep up while you're drilling?
[01:39:07] <skunkworks_> yes
[01:39:09] <skunkworks_> so far.
[01:39:16] <skunkworks_> and cutting the perimeter
[01:40:18] <skunkworks_> it is a vane pump
[01:43:22] <jensor> dfjk
[01:45:00] <jepler> people doing vacuum forming seem to use shopvacs
[01:45:16] <jepler> I hear it's not a very good idea though due to the motor heating
[01:46:35] <skunkworks_> this is 1hp 13cfm - what good that is.]
[01:51:11] <cradek> yeah I wouldn't run a shopvac for very long without airflow - maybe 30 seconds
[03:31:20] <jepler> mmmmmmm
http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/mechanically-seperated-chicken-totally-looks-like-strawberry-soft-serve.jpg?w=400
[03:36:59] <SWPadnos> http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/posh-spice-tll-sleestak.jpg
[04:05:18] <skunkworks> success again. :)
[04:28:16] <cradek> skunkworks: got another board made?
[04:33:55] <skunkworks> yes - last one. I swear.
[04:34:22] <skunkworks> this one is the prettyest.
[04:34:30] <cradek> new features or bugfixes?
[04:34:54] <skunkworks> bug fixes. It really doesn't need any new features. it does what it does.
[04:35:14] <cradek> that's good.
[04:37:48] <cradek> it should be as simple as possible but no simpler
[04:46:24] <skunkworks> exactly
[06:16:05] <JymmmEMC> SWPadnos: The Sleestack looks better!
[07:17:42] <SWPadnos_> SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
[13:25:03] <alex_joni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ3d3KigPQM
[13:33:34] <BigJohnT> morning alex_joni
[13:34:38] <alex_joni> hi BigJohnT
[13:49:57] <JymmmEMC> alex_joni: that's pretty good
[13:53:24] <alex_joni> JymmmEMC: yeah, nice
[13:53:46] <JymmmEMC> I wish ALL commercials were like that
[13:53:56] <alex_joni> this is something SWPadnos will enjoy:
http://www.beam.tv/beamreel/HCWMJmRPsw
[13:56:03] <JymmmEMC> http://www.beam.tv/beamreel/HCWMJmRPsw/file/xqKywZXVYW/doublesize/true/page/1
[13:57:32] <alex_joni> JymmmEMC:
http://www.illwillpress.com/tech2.html
[13:57:59] <JymmmEMC> hold on, switching to computer with speakers
[14:01:10] <alex_joni> then replace tech2 with tech3 and tech42
[14:03:21] <Jymmm> repaste those alex_joni
[14:04:38] <alex_joni> JymmmEMC:
http://www.illwillpress.com/tech2.html
[14:07:27] <Jymmm> I want a shocking monkey too!
[14:08:05] <alex_joni> then replace tech2 with tech3 and tech42
[14:15:03] <JymmmEMC> in 42, what did squeaky say at the end?
[14:19:02] <alex_joni> didn't make it out.. can't turn up the volume - wife's asleep :D
[14:19:49] <KimK> 42?
[14:19:54] <JymmmEMC> http://www.vslinux.net/openwrt/fonerahacks/
[14:20:27] <JymmmEMC> KimK: The meaning of life!
[14:21:47] <KimK> Ah. HGTTG? As long as it doesn't have anything to do with "President Cigar"
[14:22:37] <JymmmEMC> Not HGTTG, Tech Support
[14:23:21] <JymmmEMC> That is the worse solder job EVER!
[14:24:24] <KimK> Anyone using Qcad? Any problems with freezing/crashing after awhile? What did you do about it?
[14:24:53] <JymmmEMC> Installed SolidWorks
[14:25:12] <JymmmEMC> <rimshot>
[14:25:13] <The_Ball_> two days of tidying my and re-arranging workshop, i have finally reached the stage where it looks better than when i started
[14:25:39] <JymmmEMC> The_Ball_: Well, guess that's better than looking WORSE than you started
[14:26:58] <The_Ball_> yeah, you should have seen my living room with half my workshop stacked in it. i have accumelated to much "stuff", but all bits and pieces that COULD be usefull one day! like my pneumatic glue gun
[14:27:02] <JymmmEMC> Oh, I've been meaning to ask you guess... In respect to hardware (nuts, screws, bolts, washers, etc), how are you all sorting your stuff out, and into what?
[14:27:13] <JymmmEMC> s/guess/guys/
[14:27:26] <alex_joni> alphabetically
[14:27:30] <alex_joni> by the latin description
[14:27:36] <JymmmEMC> SMACK
[14:27:47] <The_Ball_> haha, well don't ask me, you don't want to follow my example
[14:28:53] <JymmmEMC> Well, I have 2.5lb screw on lid plastic cashew jars... been working great as they stack well. drywall screws in one, wood screws in another, just not exactly sure on machine threaded stuff.
[14:29:29] <JymmmEMC> metric/impreial threads as two jars, SS as a third?
[14:30:07] <The_Ball_> metric in the jar, imperial in the bin...
[14:30:09] <The_Ball_> * The_Ball_ ducks
[14:30:17] <JymmmEMC> SMACK
[14:30:39] <JymmmEMC> oh gawd, bad soldering and now...
http://www.vslinux.net/openwrt/fonerahacks/ram32m_2.jpg
[14:33:17] <The_Ball_> well it'll be easy to track who modded it
[14:33:35] <JymmmEMC> the mac address showing?
[14:33:45] <The_Ball_> the fingerprint
[14:33:50] <JymmmEMC> I dont think they care, as they cut a slot in the side
[14:33:54] <JymmmEMC> too
[14:34:20] <JymmmEMC> I'm more curious as to what/how they liquid got there
[14:34:25] <JymmmEMC> that
[14:34:43] <The_Ball_> wouldn't that be a standard pcb sealer?
[14:34:57] <JymmmEMC> conformal coat you mean?
[14:35:22] <The_Ball_> yeah, btw, where did you spot the mac?
[14:35:24] <JymmmEMC> by the really shitty soldering job, I seriously doubt it.
[14:35:37] <JymmmEMC> on the sticker =)
[14:36:11] <JymmmEMC> remove the filename from the url
[14:36:15] <The_Ball_> it's probably a bit of jam, hehe
[14:38:42] <The_Ball_> is it possible to use a dual display with emc (axis), i have a normal screen 1366Xsomething and I also have a 800x600 touchscreen which would be nice to mount on the mill and use as a DRO
[14:50:28] <alex_joni> The_Ball_: yup
[14:50:48] <alex_joni> you can run a second GUI on the second display
[14:52:08] <The_Ball_> fantastic
[14:52:28] <The_Ball_> as a secondary X server, or a xinerama setup?
[14:52:56] <The_Ball_> i think a secondary x server would be the best setup for me as the touch screen works as its own mouse
[14:59:38] <KimK> Two displays would be nice, but will it work? Can you run more than one instance of axis? Or run axis plus tkemc or whatever?
[15:01:08] <The_Ball_> KimK, axis plus tkemc would be my preferred setup
[15:01:29] <KimK> And that will work? I've never tried that.
[15:04:04] <KimK> Be right back, I'm going to see if 8.10 helps Qcad any.
[16:02:20] <KimK> 8.10 didn't help Qcad at all, going back to 8.04, brb
[16:13:17] <jepler> hi rayh
[16:13:43] <rayh> Hi Jeff
[16:14:08] <rayh> I haven't been able to get ahold of Roland yet but I'll try again this afternoon.
[16:14:23] <jepler> ok thanks
[16:33:20] <alex_joni> hi ray
[16:33:26] <alex_joni> long time no see.. hope all is well
[16:39:02] <alex_joni> BigJohnT: it did work out eventually with that weld
[16:41:51] <maddash> networksolutions makes me want to cry
[16:42:25] <alex_joni> feel free
[16:42:38] <maddash> to cry?
[16:42:44] <eric_unterhause1> we don't mind
[16:43:15] <alex_joni> we won't tell
[16:43:18] <maddash> by "cry," i meant "tearing up and ranting endlessly"
[16:44:10] <eric_unterhause1> oh, sure, expressing genuine human emotion makes you afraid
[16:44:37] <maddash> no ssl for the website, no encrypted upload "solution"
[16:44:59] <eric_unterhause1> that would be frustrating
[16:45:01] <maddash> even the "file manager" link on the site redirects to a normal http link
[16:45:38] <maddash> which is fucking stupid, because the control panel from which the file manager is launched uses an SSL connection
[16:45:44] <maddash> wtf?
[16:46:05] <maddash> it's idiocy like this that makes me want to go on a shooting spree
[16:46:27] <alex_joni> feel free
[16:46:55] <maddash> i must first unveil their stupidity in front of their faces
[16:47:01] <maddash> and use the f-word at least once
[16:47:19] <maddash> ooh, "customer service"
[16:47:32] <eric_unterhause1> if their tech support is in India, I can suggest a few Hindi curse words
[16:48:26] <maddash> FUCK
[16:48:42] <maddash> wtf? my ftp accnt lost upload access for no reason
[16:48:44] <eric_unterhause1> that will work of course
[16:49:06] <BigJohnT> cool alex_joni
[16:49:08] <maddash> wtf? i can "ls," "get," but i can"t fucking "put"
[16:55:26] <rayh> Hi alex_joni. Sorry I missed your note. All is well.
[16:55:58] <maddash> "out of curiosity, are you in india" "no sir, we"re in southeast asia."
[16:56:26] <eric_unterhause1> india is south central asia
[16:56:32] <alex_joni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RNNwaWeMv0
[16:56:53] <maddash> eric_unterhause1: my point was that it made no difference.
[16:56:57] <maddash> makes*
[16:57:42] <eric_unterhause1> if you get someone in southwest asia, that means al Qaeda is pickin' up the phone and you better not cuss at them
[16:59:10] <alex_joni> rayh: cool, glad to hear that
[17:04:44] <rayh> You get stuck on that install, or what, alex
[17:15:11] <maddash> "as of january 24, we support ssh" ok, what"s the host and user/pwd pair? "same as ftp" /me ssh bryant0wong@205.178.145.65 (access denied) "well this was very recent, and it works with filezilla" but I can"t even ssh into the account properly "yes but it works with filezilla." can you try sshing into the account? "this was a very recent internal announcement and we haven"t been trained properly to use this feature."
[17:15:52] <maddash> fuck this. i"m going for dreamhost.
[17:15:59] <maddash> right-fucking-now.
[17:18:01] <DanielFalck> alex_joni: did I read in the mailing list that you were demoing a Mach plasma table?
[17:18:17] <DanielFalck> or having to deal with one :)
[17:38:41] <maddash> wtf? no tel contact for dreamhost?
[17:46:44] <alex_joni> DanielFalck: having to deal with one
[17:47:25] <alex_joni> rayh: install?
[17:51:20] <alex_joni> DanielFalck: managed to get it to crash repeatedly by loading a program.. that was a real wtf moment
[17:52:29] <dmess> no doubt...LOL
[17:53:45] <alex_joni> and the same program offseted by 30 mm in y worked
[17:53:59] <alex_joni> I diff-ed it to make sure - nothing else changed :/
[18:00:28] <DanielFalck> alex_joni: was it a customer's machine that you had to trouble shoot?
[18:00:30] <dmess> really.... something wackey there
[18:01:00] <dmess> was it crasing into a y limit??
[18:01:49] <alex_joni> dmess: far from it
[18:01:58] <alex_joni> DanielFalck: no, just a machine the customer had
[18:02:11] <alex_joni> I had other things to do, but they asked me to help with a design
[18:06:05] <JymmmEMC> I think it's funny that maddash just rants and raves on shit, then just leaves before anyone can give him a hand/suggestion.
[18:06:08] <dmess> hmm
[18:07:00] <JymmmEMC> specificically in respect to networking too
[18:32:41] <dmess> Alex... so did you ever figure it out???
[18:38:15] <eric_unterhause1> if moving it over 30mm fixed it, it must be limits or something like that
[18:49:07] <eric_unterhause1> not a good idea == whole wheat fig newtons
[19:03:24] <motioncontrol> good evening.i have one meccanical system with 10mm/rev gear and encoder with 2048imp/rev.i use the hm2-pci driver for 5i20 card.I have write in input scale encoder 8192 cout, but the step movement exmp:0.1mm non is realy.the machine move 10 mm.because? thanks
[19:07:07] <alex_joni> dmess: nope, didn't even attempt to
[19:07:20] <dmess> ah i see...
[19:08:11] <eric_unterhause1> motioncontrol: you ask for 0.1mm movement and you get 10mm, is this correct?
[19:08:32] <motioncontrol> yes the question is correct
[19:09:26] <dmess> you dropped some zero's somewhere
[19:09:59] <eric_unterhause1> it's not a meters/mm problem...
[19:11:05] <dmess> .1 m would get you 100mm
[19:11:27] <motioncontrol> i don't thing .i thing the problem is vaule scale encoder
[19:12:41] <dmess> would/could input scale be in nanoimeters perhaps??
[19:12:46] <motioncontrol> 2 axis move correct.the meccanica gear is 1mm/rev.the 3° axis is 10mm/rev
[19:13:04] <motioncontrol> the encoder is all 2048 imp/rev
[19:13:21] <alex_joni> 00 mm/ rev and 2048 imp /rev means you need to have 20480 counts/mm
[19:13:34] <alex_joni> so you don't write 8192, but 20480..
[19:13:50] <dmess> yes... something like that
[19:14:01] <eric_unterhause1> alex_joni: you just ruined my theory
[19:14:13] <dmess> i wodered where that # come frome anyway
[19:14:14] <motioncontrol> exuse and good evening alex.the encoder is quadrature encoder 2048 x4 =8192
[19:15:01] <alex_joni> ok, so if you move 1 unit, does the motor make 1 full turn?
[19:15:25] <dmess> needs to have 81920 as scale
[19:15:40] <alex_joni> dmess: hmm.. if it's 10mm/rev then it's 819.2
[19:15:48] <alex_joni> (my math was slightly backward there :)
[19:16:03] <dmess> lemme think ive been sick
[19:16:05] <alex_joni> it's not TPI for us mm-guys
[19:16:12] <alex_joni> it's IPT ;)
[19:16:30] <dmess> im bi
[19:17:01] <dmess> makes it a little odd as i sometimes swap thins around
[19:17:21] <motioncontrol> my unit is mm no inch.2 axis set 8192 scale necoder and have gear 1mm/rev.the move the 2 axis is correct in increment.the 3° axis ave 8192 scale encoder , but the gear is 10mm/rev.the movement the 3° axis is no corretct.i move 0,1 mm and it move 1 mm.
[19:17:24] <eric_unterhause1> why would a mm guy use inches per thread?
[19:18:07] <motioncontrol> because in europe the gear is in mm for rev
[19:18:14] <dmess> its called the pitch
[19:18:39] <eric_unterhause1> sorry, being a smart alec about mm guy using inches
[19:19:11] <eric_unterhause1> motioncontrol: is it 1mm or 10mm when you ask for ,1mm?
[19:19:23] <dmess> and I'm the smarty pants in here OK ;)
[19:19:39] <eric_unterhause1> because 10mm would suggest you multiplied when you should have divided
[19:19:49] <dmess> yes... like i did
[19:20:21] <motioncontrol> the movement is moltiplier for 10.if i move 0,1 the movement is 1 mmm, if i move 1 mm the move is 10mm
[19:21:15] <motioncontrol> i thing change the scale encoder at 819.2 tommorrow for prove
[19:21:37] <eric_unterhause1> sounds like a good idea
[19:22:52] <motioncontrol> thenks for all
[19:24:41] <dmess> hmm that was too easy
[19:26:11] <dmess> http://www.mont-sainte-anne.com/1/Lamontagne/Conditionsdeneige/conditionsgenerales/tabid/335/Default.asp .... 6 more sleeps.... i can hardly wait
[19:34:44] <eric_unterhause1> we had one nice day on friday, melts most of the snow, and then it's frigid again
[19:39:58] <dmess> yes same here melting on Friday deep freeze on Saturday morning
[19:40:10] <dmess> and still
[19:59:45] <eric_unterhause1> missed another chance to try to type something obnoxious before the bot got kicked
[20:02:41] <dmess> i hate when that happens
[20:08:30] <motioncontrol> good evening.i have installed emc2.2.8 and i have upgrade the error message at it_axis and it_rs274_err, but when i have the following error the text is in english exmpl:jont 0 following erroe.because?
[20:15:42] <jepler> motioncontrol: there are technical limitations in emc that prevent those messages from being translatable.
[20:17:11] <motioncontrol> ok thanks.i thing this message is write no in po module but internal code
[20:17:52] <motioncontrol> jepler what is halgui?
[20:18:27] <jepler> motioncontrol: an unfinished program; I don't believe it does anything useful
[20:20:47] <motioncontrol> ok thanks.i want use the emc with no gui , but if i write in ini file #DISLAY = AXIS , the emc retur error.can i write the my user interface , you are one ideas for symple start?
[20:22:20] <jepler> DISPLAY=dummy
[20:22:58] <motioncontrol> ok with dunmmy the not open the interFACE?
[20:27:51] <jepler> dummy)
[20:27:52] <jepler> # dummy display just waits for <ENTER>
[20:27:52] <jepler> echo "DUMMY DISPLAY MODULE, press <ENTER> to continue."
[20:27:52] <jepler> read foo;
[20:28:00] <jepler> this is what the emc script does when you specify DISPLAY=dummy
[20:30:50] <motioncontrol> ok thaks jepler.
[21:04:08] <jmkasunich> electronics pricing is strange
[21:04:25] <jmkasunich> I needed a USB cable with a mini connector on it - intend to cut the cable and use the end
[21:04:33] <jmkasunich> cheapest one in the store $17.99 - ick
[21:05:11] <jmkasunich> then I look in the clearance crap bin, and there is a mini-USB hub - 4 port hub, with a mini-USB connector on the computer and, and a standard to mini USB cable
[21:05:21] <jmkasunich> hub _and_ cable: $4.99
[21:05:49] <jmkasunich> so I could throw away the hub and still be $13 ahead
[21:06:07] <ds3> or goto the dollar store and get a $1 mini cable ;)
[21:06:38] <jmkasunich> I was already in the computer store for something else
[21:06:52] <jmkasunich> 40 to 44 pin IDE adapter - not likely a dollar store item
[21:07:19] <ds3> depends on how good a dollar store you have ;)
[21:08:27] <jmkasunich> I think the dollar stores around here have little or no computer stuff
[21:08:45] <dmess> i like vallue village type shops
[21:09:15] <jmkasunich> argh
[21:09:20] <jmkasunich> its the wrong end
[21:09:36] <jmkasunich> damn camera uses something even smaller than mini-USB
[21:09:39] <dmess> or princess auto's bins of surplus got my wall wart as a radiocharger fot 1.99
[21:10:00] <dmess> what camera??
[21:10:05] <jmkasunich> webcam
[21:10:32] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.com/pics/mach-vision/test1-raw.png
[21:10:34] <ds3> the dollar tree chain seems to have USB stuff
[21:10:35] <dmess> hmm.. wine is wireless ... and pretty useles in linux
[21:10:48] <jmkasunich> the camera in that picture
[21:10:56] <ds3> wine is better without wires ;)
[21:11:11] <jmkasunich> wtf does wine have to do with cameras?
[21:11:15] <ds3> is it from Aiptek?
[21:11:18] <jmkasunich> yes
[21:11:33] <ds3> ah... they like using the 4 pin mini USB connectors
[21:11:45] <jmkasunich> I know that now :-(
[21:11:53] <ds3> hard to find htem cheap... other then the included cable, the only other source is the universal cable kits
[21:12:02] <dmess> if it helps i have 1 here
[21:12:15] <jmkasunich> I have the included cable, but it has a freaking huge ferrite lump on it
[21:12:29] <dmess> huh??
[21:12:33] <jmkasunich> 1" diameter and nearly 2" long, only an inch from the camera and of the cable
[21:12:41] <jmkasunich> weighs more than the camera
[21:12:49] <ds3> thanks your friends in Washington ;)
[21:13:09] <ds3> can't have cables radiating stuff.... some one might complain about bad TV reception ;)
[21:13:58] <dmess> a few loops on a ring is all it needs even 1-2M away
[21:14:29] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.com/pics/mach-vision/test2-flat.png
[21:14:34] <jmkasunich> shows the lump
[21:15:14] <jmkasunich> this is for a mobile robot using vision - I need a short cable to my mini-ITX mobo, not 6' with a lump on it
[21:15:38] <jmkasunich> unprocessed image:
http://jmkasunich.com/pics/mach-vision/test2-raw.png
[21:16:38] <dmess> understood
[21:17:20] <ds3> jmkasunich: are you using Linux?
[21:17:21] <jmkasunich> I might wind up removing the connector from the camera board and soldering a cable right to it
[21:17:23] <dmess> nice set-up
[21:17:26] <jmkasunich> ds3: of course
[21:17:38] <ds3> jmkasunich: what driver are you using with that camera?
[21:18:26] <jmkasunich> looks like gspca
[21:18:41] <ds3> and it works well?
[21:18:47] <jmkasunich> at least, that is the module that loads when I plug in the camera
[21:18:53] <dmess> nice and intuative ehh
[21:19:03] <jmkasunich> ISTR I had to compile the driver on this box
[21:19:28] <jmkasunich> that was a long time ago - I used this camera at the CNC workshop last summer
[21:19:51] <ds3> interesting... so not all aiptek's aretroublesome
[21:21:01] <jmkasunich> what kind of troubles?
[21:21:22] <jmkasunich> I think I've actually had this one 2 or 3 years
[21:22:06] <ds3> I wasn't getting reliable pictures
[21:22:30] <ds3> tried to dropback to gphoto2 but the aiptek's didn't work with gphoto2 (for capture)
[21:22:45] <ds3> aiptek's are nice, they show up in the sub $10 bins
[21:23:02] <ds3> had to fall back to a repurposed disposable digital camera
[21:23:03] <jmkasunich> I probably paid about $30 (but that was a while ago)
[21:23:36] <jmkasunich> when I was using it as a webcam at the cnc workshop, I was using vgrabbj to capture images
[21:24:09] <jmkasunich> for this project, I didn't want an image on disk, I wanted to capture to a memory buffer and then start processing
[21:24:25] <jmkasunich> so I got the vgrabbj source and used the relevant parts
[21:24:55] <ds3> gspca is odd, it works fine with some cameras but not others... aipteks were the least reliable
[21:25:39] <ds3> got a URL for vgrabbj? I been using svv
[21:33:03] <jmkasunich> google it
[21:33:11] <jmkasunich> if you are using ubuntu, there is already a package
[21:34:46] <jmkasunich> damn.... I need to clean my bench off
[21:34:58] <jmkasunich> cleaning bench <--- most dreaded chore
[21:45:57] <BigJohnT_> BigJohnT_ is now known as BigJohnT
[22:42:32] <ds3> nevermind... it is v4l only
[22:51:35] <KimK> Does (AXIS,hide) only hide the g-code from the extents displayer? It still seems to show the tool moving and cutting that section of g-code. Am I doing something wrong? I thought it would hide the whole procedure?
[22:54:10] <alex_joni> KimK: (AXIS,hide) hides the line from AXIS
[22:54:18] <alex_joni> that way it doesn't get displayed
[22:54:28] <alex_joni> if you want to remove the line from g-code you can :
[22:54:32] <alex_joni> - either delete it
[22:54:39] <jmkasunich> it hides it from the _preview_
[22:54:46] <jmkasunich> it doesn't stop the machine from cutting it
[22:54:55] <alex_joni> - or use () around the whole block you want removed
[22:54:56] <jmkasunich> and the display during cutting shows whatever the machine does
[22:55:11] <alex_joni> - or use an o-word to jump over that part
[22:55:40] <JymmmEMC> OT but if anyone has an idea... If I have a router setup to issue ip's via DHCP on the lan side, but have setup one host to be in DMZ, what/where do you usually configure DHCP to assign the PUBLIC dns server to the DMZ host, and not the private DNS server?
[22:57:22] <KimK> Oh, OK, it just hides it from the preview. Got it. It is showing the cutting, now I understand. Thanks!
[23:02:26] <jmkasunich> curse intel
[23:02:39] <jmkasunich> this board is supposed to use less than 1/2A at 12V
[23:02:40] <JymmmEMC> ...chipsets
[23:02:52] <jmkasunich> but they put that stupid 4 pin "extra 12V" header on it
[23:03:05] <JymmmEMC> your atom mobo?
[23:03:10] <jmkasunich> yeah
[23:03:24] <jmkasunich> now I gotta find a mating connector at 6pm on a sunday
[23:03:40] <JymmmEMC> is it the square one?
[23:03:40] <jmkasunich> (the only PS I have handy doesn't have the extra 4 pins)
[23:03:43] <jmkasunich> yes
[23:03:58] <jmkasunich> I need this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200084
[23:04:12] <jmkasunich> but I need it NOW, not a couple days from now
[23:04:34] <alex_joni> jmkasunich: got an old ATX PSU?
[23:04:38] <JymmmEMC> have any spare pc you can steal from?
[23:04:47] <alex_joni> you can cut off 4 pins from the connector
[23:04:48] <jmkasunich> "old" ATX supplies don't have the 4 pin connector
[23:04:59] <JymmmEMC> jmkasunich: Actually, some do
[23:05:02] <alex_joni> no, but they have a full sized one
[23:05:10] <alex_joni> JymmmEMC: those are new ATX'es
[23:05:12] <jmkasunich> alex_joni: I know what you mean
[23:05:27] <JymmmEMC> alex_joni: yhe PS I have here for a P3 mobo has it
[23:05:29] <alex_joni> find the matching round/square pins, and saw them off
[23:05:33] <jmkasunich> I actually have an 18 pin connector and I'm thinking about whacking one end off
[23:05:43] <jepler> JymmmEMC: in dhcp3-server on hardy, the manpage implies that you can put settings like 'option routers' and 'option domain-name-servers' in a subnet block
[23:06:01] <JymmmEMC> jepler: Ah, thankyou!!!
[23:07:04] <alex_joni> well.. I'm off to bed
[23:07:07] <alex_joni> good night all
[23:07:15] <alex_joni> JymmmEMC: /msg
[23:07:56] <JymmmEMC> alex_joni: Heh... you are a rubbery kinda guy!
[23:09:31] <BigJohnT> good night alex_joni
[23:09:37] <jmkasunich> night alex
[23:12:07] <JymmmEMC> jmkasunich: do you have any spare server systesm?
[23:12:29] <jmkasunich> no
[23:12:37] <jmkasunich> I've done much less dumpster diving lately
[23:12:46] <JymmmEMC> any 1U PS?
[23:12:56] <jmkasunich> nope
[23:13:41] <JymmmEMC> Got Dremel?
[23:14:15] <jmkasunich> I'm in the process of removing a 4-pin section from one end of an 18-pin connector I had around
[23:15:29] <JymmmEMC> jepler: do you which man page that was in?
[23:15:56] <jmkasunich> murphy decided that although this 4-pin chunk of connector has 2 yellow and 2 black, they are reversed from the proper pinout
[23:20:54] <jmkasunich> I'm hopeless
[23:21:13] <BigJohnT> I'm closer to fingering this out
[23:21:19] <jmkasunich> cut the connector, verifiy that it fits, go looking for a make molex to splice it to - and now I can't find the one I cut
[23:21:58] <JymmmEMC> jmkasunich: It fell under the table, behind the thingy that's dark, dusty and JUSt out of reach.
[23:22:21] <BigJohnT> or under the fridge
[23:22:58] <jmkasunich> actually, no - I just had an attack of stupid and put it back in the container with the harness I cut it off of
[23:24:23] <jmkasunich> anyway, none of this makes intels decision to put that connector on the board any less stupid
[23:24:35] <jmkasunich> why didn't they just take their 12V from the 24 pin connector?
[23:32:33] <JymmmEMC> for more amperage
[23:40:33] <jmkasunich> the board uses less than 1/2 amp
[23:44:31] <BigJohnT> you need more power... how can you keep your hands warm
[23:45:06] <JymmmEMC> jmkasunich: it's just what I read in the ATX2.1 spec (iirc)
[23:50:40] <jmkasunich> JymmmEMC: I know thats why they use the 4 pin connector on mainstream mobos
[23:50:52] <jmkasunich> but it doesn't make sense on the Atom board
[23:57:03] <steves_logging> steves_logging is now known as steve_stallings
[23:57:40] <steve_stallings> Why not just put some heavy jumpers on the bottom of the Atom board from the 12 volts on the 24 pin connector to the 4 pin connector?
