has anyone tried this drawing program? http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
it looks like a Corel-alike
(probably missing some features, but looks pretty capable)
SWPadnos: Corel dont do 3d though =)
they had a 3D package a long time ago, but it certainly wasn't CAD
Corel3D actually :)
it wouldnt build when i tried, dep hell. but now they have tgz, will try it out (had svg ;)
wow dload was fast, but i'll have to try it on a screen bigger than this eeepc, l8r!
maybe my 3840x2400 screen?
oooh sexy buttons, and a great rusty look for machine tool guis http://downloads.xara.com/opensource/images/screenshots/general/07.jpg
a rusty skin for axis?
a YPERREALISTIC one
oops, that artist, simone is a guy http://www.pampado.info/home.html
, aw, the tutorials section is under construction :(
SWPadnos:ran the latency test all nihgt and got 25322 ovl max and no overrun...this ok ?
now in stepconf..i have 15000 in the latency test result(was there when i opened step) should i change that ?
to 25000 ?
then work from there
what was your max jitter?
i had 25322 ovl max in terminal test...is that the same as jitters ?
I don't remember... seems like it is
i ran the terminal test instead of the other...thought they were the same
jepler sent me a web link to run that test
I guess it is the same but it has been a while since I used the terminal one
yep looks like ovl max is the same as max jitter
so work from 25000 /
cool thanks BigJohnT
if you get the rtapi error just increase it
in my ini file..i have 70000 for base_period and 1000000 for servo...this ok ?
did you use the stepconf wizard to generate your config?
i was in my ini file before...wanted to finish that before goiong to step
thinking about it now....that will change when i run stepconf..right
now get this http://pastebin.com/m3462f02d
looks like the rtai did not get unloaded just try it again
should i reboot ?
no your my-mill
that looks like running stepconf while emc2 is running
I was just guessing :)
piasdom: does it work now?
how high can i go ?
aww don't call me sir... I'm a redneck
I knew that :)
cool I used to live in LaPlace and Metairie
an hour away
ok better question did EMC load
now I'm in swamp east Missouri
no...just gif and error
piasdom: open terminal
nothing like louisiana swamp :)
halcmd unload all
sudo /etc/init.d/realtime stop
how do start hal (damn lazy ahl :)
don't know if this is the same error http://paste.org/index.php?id=4816
i got this in terminal ERROR: Module hal_lib does not exist in /proc/modules
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piasdom: sudo /etc/init.d/realtime start
does that work?
if it works, then use stop
insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/rtai_hal.ko': -1 File exists
that is using start
[13:07:30] <piasdom> http://paste.org/index.php?id=4817
sudo rmmod latency_rt
something happened >
now try stop again
does not exist
we knew that
that is what i get using stop...a lot of files don't exist
are you still getting in use errrors?
if it doesn't exist, it's not a problem
can't get to use....just error message
now it opened :)
i'm in mini now
are you supposed to be in mini?
yes..i perfer mini
thannks for ya'll help
he needs to buy higher quality string for that connection
I don't wanna think about what he might do with that
put it on his piano, because he broke it while fingering a minor?
play a tune
can you imagine a couple of kids trying to make a communications system with two cans and a gstring?
only with a couple of gstrings
can you hear me? you're yelling in my ear!
ok, ya'll got mini working (THANKS) but.............
how do i ajust the accuracy...g01 move about 1.125
piasdom: are you familiar with an abacus?
yes...but i don't like where this is going :)
you only need to fill out the proper values here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html//stepconf-axis.png
thanks.....i was just waiting :)
piasdom: you do have a step motor driver.. right?
sqarish box with wires sticking out of it
usually has some leds on it
ok, I bet a manual comes with it
i got the idea
iirc, for sherline there's a jumper to select the number of microsteps
is there a way I can test my home sensor is working in linux? something like a gui parallel tester?
is emc installed on your computer?
shrdlu-: start one of the sample stepper configs
then under the AXIS menu you have a link to "hal meter"
Then use halscope or hal meter - and pick the pin you want to look at.. ^what alex_joni said.
the pin you want to look is probably something like parport.0.pin-xx-in
oh, nice, thank you
that's how halmeter approximately looks like
You can run more than one also.
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you guys are special
eric_unterhausen: you'd think so
15:51 < eric_unterhausen> you guys are special | 15:52 < alex_joni> eric_unterhausen: you'd think so
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hm, my sensor doesn't seem to be doing anything
what sensor is that?
home sensor, optical i guess
I dunno, this is a retroft
is it plugged in?
as far as I am aware
scope or meter check wiring
does it need a pull-up
I will have to check all that
well, I know where it's plugged in, pin 10 of the parallel port
is it a switch?
just hooked up to the breakout I made for the ribbon
does it have a check light on it?
I can't really get at it to see, I dont think it does
voltmeter probably a good first pass
and if all else fails, lick it
* fragalot hides
you can't hide on the internet
yes I can
all it takes is "/me hides"
ah but I know where you hide in other channels
* archivist found fragalot yawning in #electronics this morning
archivist: prove it
did you see the U.S. state department IT system was almost taken down by an empty email?
* fragalot hides again
* fragalot unhides to query unterhausen about the details
[14:12:33] <unterhausen> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090110/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/state_department_e_mail
I've gotten emails with long cc lists from government agencies, it's a problem waiting to happen for a lot of them
I never get emails from government agencies
it's pretty common at universities
I don't have that issue, all emails i get from my uni originates from <insert random gibbrish here>
the mail system is.. crap, to say the least
we have a spam filter which doesn't work
lots of professors have spam filters that send gmail and yahoo to spam automatically
I told them that the number of people on their system that want to receive emails about viagra is almost zero
I don't know how you have a spam filter that doesn't hit that one hard right up front
I need to figure out how to change the name that people see when I call them on my cellphone
borrow someones phone when you call
I would like them to see my name instead of my wife's
they have a way to change it on the web site, but it doesn't work
any good web hosting companies out there?
unterhausen: linuxcnc.org uses dreamhost.com. but dreamhost emphasizes "cheap" over "reliable" and "fast"
* archivist self hosts
I don't need much, hacker "proof" is somewhat important
there is a domain parking company that has my domain name though
I have used hasweb and hostdime. (really the same company)
I think I pay $48 a year thru hasweb
disk space is my main requirement and dns so I can run a few sites
I need a legit email address other than the one at the university
do you want a gmail ?
I have gmail
do you want a gmail ?
I'm thinking that might not make some people happy though
I think I would only want a "better" one for company/commercial type emails
that's what I want
then tied to your domain can look better then
that's what I'm thinking
Ive been too idle to set that up yet
Idle is a perfect word for my entire existence
I have a web site at the university which I haven't edited in 8 years
my archive site is a year or two
but with the boss selling the land here I need to get a fixed IP at home or a good cheap hosting deal
there was a short time that my name was available as a domain
don't know if I want to use that anyway, a guy with my name was murdered
I got archivist.ifo it suits me
it's still the first hit on google
then there was a guy with my name that was charged with securities fraud
change your name
anonymity has some advantages
change it to anonymity
anonymity through repetition works for me
yeah, it's a anonymizer
unterhausen: you can still get anonymizer.ro, and way cheaper ;)
alex_joni: I'll take that under advisement
I can get my name .net
not any more.. ;)
* skunkworks_ is kidding
* archivist is happy, just got the manual from the states for the HP dynamic system analyser
when repaired I can test/measure mechanical systems
I always dreamed about having one of those, did you get one of the magic hammers?
no it has a noise source in it to stimulate the system under test
how do you inject the noise into a mechanical system?
which is a glorified speaker coil on steroids
I recently speculated that the number of used shakers was reduced considerably by the price of copper
or could be ones servo
I have a small shaker that I bought a while back that has no windings due to that
next thing to google fleabay for I suppose
you never know where they might be hidden there
we have a batch of little shakers at work, personally I like to shake things with hydraulics
descriptions for those could so easily be wrong
I have some accelerometers and charge amps
that's really what you need, assuming the machine isn't totally dead
dont think my accelerometers go down to a low enough rate, need to look the data up
but it adds up to good brochure BS for a website of facilities
hm, looks like my sensor is toast :/
what sort is it
tcst1030 opto switch
now to find somewhere in the uk that sells them or similar without a minimum order price
do you have the correct pull up etc
It's on a pcb, it was working before
i thought I was hooking it up wrong, but it's not even working with the original driver
so I take it it's dead
or you killed it
local Maplin should have something
I didn't see anything
guess there are several names it could go under
farnell has a £20 minimum order
thus my comment above
and I obviously killed it, who else would have done it?
that should do it, if they'll fit the pcb. thankyaw for looking
How can I patch my Ubuntu 8.04?
what patch ?
I mean that RTAI or RTLinux patches.
to be able to use EMc2 as "real", not just as a simulator.
use the live CD its done for you
archivist: no, have no chance to use it
archivist: do i need to, as it's called, "re-compile kernel" ??
you have to add the realtime kernel there is some stuff on the wiki
vent313: if you want to do it yourself, then you must get rtai, get the kernel sources, patch them, then recompile
once you have a working kernel, you can compile rtai, then once that's working you can get emc2 sources and compile those
it should take a couple days if you're used to the process
so much easier to use the live CD
vent313: any reasons against using already compiled packages?
alex_joni: ok, i have kernel - and ... it seems too hard.
vent313: if it's the first time you do this.. it's certainly not easy
alex_joni: i have compiled python2.5 and emc, have no internet access - don't know if your package
...with rtai will need dependencies
thats why we all recomend the live CD then you dont need web access
alex_joni: can you introduce me into "rtai" - or "rtlinux" - what is it? is it some kind of a program, which can be ./configure'ed, then make, make install'ed
ok, thanks - i'm
Home location: This is the location the machine will go to once it hits the home switch.
so it triggers the switch, then goes to another location of your choosing?
shrdlu-: picture it like a G00 move
presumably somewhere close by?
well, that's what my old driver did anyway
home, then about 1cm out from each axis (x,y only)
I don't understand how it knows where the y axis home is though
there seems to be only one home switch
one physical switch?
or one switch input?
one physical switch
interesting. is it a cam roller type, just a microswitch ...?
it's two steppers on belts, xy for a laser, with an opto switch on the far right hand side of the x axis
but it homes the y too, the original plotter board
you can try things like starting a homing operation with X very close to home and Y far away, and see how it moves
versus Y close to home and X far away
I broke the sensor :/
well, once you fix the sensor ;)
does RS have a minimum order?
heh, yeah I will do. I'd like to copy the startup procedure from the old board
a tab moving in from x and y so it could set both
well, ideally you'd want to stop motion on any axis that has reached its home position
I think RS has a minimum, either that or £6 postage
then again, with steppers you can just hope the end stops are strong enough to stall the motors
he wants/needs better than that as its a laser plotter
well, it's pretty repeatable, until you mushroom the end stop from repeated hammering ;)
errand time. bbl
not a system I like as the stepper can cog either side of the stop if its not well defined
www.rtai.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed. (Error code: sec_error_ca_cert_invalid)
^--- "alex_joniit should take a couple days if you're used to the process" wtf? 'couple days'? it takes me 20 min to recompile a kernel, and another 10 min to compile emc
can someone give me a link to rtai-3.6.1.tar.bz2 @ http://www.rtai.org
hmm I need a variac for a test procedure on my power supply fault
maddash: i'm about to do it withing next few minutes!
vent313: have you read the wiki?
damn i wish I had an endoscope
well, whatever the correct term for that is
for non medical use
hm, maybe I can look with a mirror
wget --no-check-certif https://www.rtai.org/RTAI/rtai-3.6.2.tar.bz2
same device name for non medical
shrdlu-: into your GI tract? I don't think that's a good iea
oh my!? How could I know about it?
ah! it's night here where i am
ok, going off-line. this rtai cost 0.40 for my mobile phone, therefore, at the end of the download i will be offline :(
* shrdlu- discovers the wonder of an inspection mirror
well, I can see it all now, and I can't see any other sensor
good evening today
One question please.in my hal file i load the: loadrt hal_m5i20.this driver directory is m5i20 in emc , but what is the firmare load?4 or 8 axis?
the hal_m5i20 driver is 4-axis unless you modify and recompile emc. the new hm2_pci driver is more flexible.
I think that's a 4-axis configuration. a newer and more flexible driver is available called hostmot2
and more info in man hostmot2
the rtai binary package for ubuntu is way smaller than the source
i have compile emc2.2.8 and i thing the driver hal_pci is compiled.For change the driver i select in menu start emc hm2_servo ?
motioncontrol: that set of files is designed for the 7i43 card, not the 5i20 pci card. However, looking at those files will give you some idea how a hm2_pci configuration would be
maddash: start with a new kernel version, lets see how much it takes
alex_joni: <1 hr
please alex you have the hal and ini and core file for load the hal_pci for m5i20?
alex_joni: i'm running 2.6.25
alex_joni: unless by 'new' you mean 2.6.30
^^ in this old irc log, jmkasunich heklped kimk adapt the hm2-servo configuration to a 5i22 pci card; the steps to adapt to 5i20 would be similar.
maddash: typing 'make; make install' and making working realtime-patched kernel deb packages that many people can use are very different tasks
alex_joni: b-t-w, i just have 2.6.25 on cd
maddash: lets say 2.6.27
vent313: what linux do you have installed?
cradek: alex_joni was referring to vent313 case specifically
maddash: nope, not specifically
it's probably gonna take him more than 2-3 hours to download the sources
alex i'm old nickname is flexmotioncnc, remember problem for stop axis visualization?now is ok.the problem is the patchy 3.5-cv rtai with the 2.8.17 kernel.now i compile the 2.6.22 with 3.6-cv rtai , the problem not is present.
alex_joni: somehow, I don't think vent313 wants to create packages that 'many people can use' at this point
motioncontrol: good to hear that you fixed it
motioncontrol: that's very interesting
maddash: another nice example for things that "can" happen :)
maddash: maybe you're just that much smarter than alex, but if so, it's not polite to tell him
alex_joni: **at this point**
cradek: huh? when was I referring to 'smart-ness'?
it's just that he has done this task (built kernel, rtai, emc packages) and you haven't. so arguing with him about how long it takes (or ought to take) is silly
cradek: I don't deny that once stuff is in place it can take less than 1h on a moderately fast pc to rebuild everything
maddash: /usr/src/rtai/base/arch/***x86/patches/hal-linux-2.6.25-x86-2.0-07.patch*** or /usr/src/rtai/base/arch/***i386***/patches/hal-linux-2.6.25-x86-2.0-07.patch ??
i was pointing out that in vent313's case, it would take vent313 < 1 hr to compile a kernel for vent313 himself, unless vent313 compiles on a P3 or something
i386 or x86
celeron 2 GB 2 gb ram
vent313: you compile on 2.6.25 ? I'd take the x86
vent313: you're going to run emc on a laptop? did you read the wiki?
and reiserfs, but i've used to compile everything as e.g. wine in ramdisk in /dev/shm, which is 1gb in size
laptop is probably a poor choice for emc2
maddash: it's to show "the principals" of emc2 to co-workers
maddash: and why not? Can you tell me why not?
that screws with realtime performance
laptop is in the cold room, so CPU's cooler will be ok in a test
vent313, latency issues, power shuts down the cpu
vent313, its battery saving not heat
shuts down the CPU? I can adjust /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf then
alex_joni: oh you were talking about pre-compilation prep, like setting up dirs, patching etc? then you're right.
vent313: modern power management techniques such as the use of "SMI" to control fan speeds take control away from the operating system (including RTAI) for long periods of time.
archivist: i will do it on betteyr then. can i?
Disabling SMI voids your laptop's warranty and may cause actual physical damage
(it can on desktops too, though they don't have such thin thermal margins as laptops)
maddash: and chosing a proper config file, etc
jepler: i have no PC, only laptop, 32 bit... Will install it on pc then...
alex_joni: yes, in that case, i agree; menuconfig has me hooked for hours at a time
vent313: aren't there any internet cafe's around there?
some place you can go to and download the iso?
emc on gumstix
alex_joni: it's western siberia and snow and bears all around, no cafe, no coffee at all: crisis
then it's surely out of walking (driving?) distance :)
* archivist does not believe its that bad
alex_joni: i can use beer&friend&non-limited internet access, but today i'm about to compile it\
archivist: /usr/src/rtai/base/arch/x86/patches/hal-linux-2.6.24-x86-2.0-07.patch or i386 architecture ??
which folser for a patch?
vent313: as I said, I would try the x86 patch first
has anyone tried porting emc to arm yet?
* archivist programmed on ARM once
but, i have another question: what is RTAI? Is it a "strong defence" for ***performance*** and nothing else? What if I'm sure my laptop will handle that drawing realtime?
archivist: what's wrong with arm?
vent313: it won't. trust me, it won't.
vent313: RTAI is basicly a mini operating system, that will work besides linux
maddash: it will not run or i will trash the detal, (which i will mill)
alex_joni: ok, but...
maddash, strange short relative jmps, made for a broken C switch statement in some code I was working on
both run on the same PC, but linux has less priority than rtai
for this change from rtai to linux, back to rtai, etc to work the hardware is not supposed to stop processes
but on some laptops you can have special things that cause blocking the CPU too much, then rtai can't change and all your timings will be off
this is still ok to show how emc2 looks, but you can do the same with a simulation of emc2
e.g. compiled in simulator mode
(without needing a special kernel and rtai)
archivist: what compiler? I can't remember the last time I actually encountered a gcc bug on either of the platforms I commonly build for (x86 or avr)
ok. ah... well, it's my own laptop, and i hadn't planned to work using it. anyway, it seems my celeron isn't as sophisticated as e.g. intel cpu - so i hope i have no that SMI in bios or so. I'm using emc2 to visualize optimization of drawings at a current period
if you're not planning to physically control a CNC machine, then you can do the same things compiling emc2 in simulator mode
jepler, it was Acorns own compiler this was a long time ago
the only difference is that in simulator mode, emc2 can't control hardware
archivist: might be a whole new story these days
alex_joni: i plan a try, but wante to use laptop, will change my p.o.v - points of view
jepler, may well be but the underlying risc is still there
jepler, Im not following the chip these days, dunno if they improved the jmp range
anyway, i somehow think this mean-price laptop can offer such a trick to me. Just its
..its BIOS is too simple for serious notebooks
ah, will see
archivist: it's up to the compiler to choose the right jump instruction(s)
jepler, yes I know it was buggy, (they did not like my bug reports)
why don't RTAI = buffer of RAM and some CPU timings (not big at all for such a task)?
I complained loudly
squeaky wheel gets oiled?
vent313, you have a lot to learn about realtime systems
maddash: so I shall be scared about overheating - as a first problem, right?
I got told off for moaning at Acorn!
vent313: overheating your laptop?
vent313: often things are more complicated than we first imagine. I often discover this when I scoff and say "I could do that myself in an afternoon". hopefully I learn from that experience..
vent313: overheating what?
archivist: i'm young and only 5 month in linux - head is reeling, already need some rest for all the info i've learnt
maddash: according to intel datasheets, if you disable the SMI you are running your CPU outside of its thermal specification
_if_ you disable SMI
maddash: but many people with intel CPUs find that they don't get adequate realtime performance when SMI is enabled
grep -rn memcpy *|less
jepler: i'm too - that's why i think about programming issues after some first-order skilled info
jepler: another thing that just "hit" me.. there are about 10? sources that SMI can disable
I mean rtai_smi
we usually disable them all, but maybe only one or a few should be enough
alex_joni: how can i disable SMI? in BIOS??
vent313: it's a special module part of RTAI
you shouldn't worry with it
jepler: i'm reenabling anyway
i will think about it later, not today
it's only needed if you want 100% realtime performance
if you only use your laptop for show-off, I wouldn't install it
excuse another question.I have 3 axis.i want one axis not linear but angular axis.i modified in ini file at line type = angular .restart emc , but the axis not count 0-360 grad , but only linear increment because?
oh, heh, I found the other sensor
by the way, when i worked with FEM, i used to put the system blick of my PC on the window - in winter. this way CPU was cold withing 1-hour calculations at full speed. it was P4
i know this celeron has strange temperature 53 celsius degree
shrdlu-: i meant those box with hdd, motherboard, power supply
also, i know, kernel "wakes up" CPU rather more than MS W....... OS does. And CPU is hot in linux, in general. Can believe in failures on laptops with something being switched off... :(
excuse another question.I have 3 axis.i want one axis not linear but angular axis.i modified in ini file at line type = angular .restart emc , but the axis not count 0-360 grad , but only linear increment because?
* maddash is in love with MIPS32
motioncontrol: xyz are always linear
abc are angular
motioncontrol, make it the 4th axis A
ok.thanks i thing the name axis is indipendent at declaration the type axis.thanks
motioncontrol: and emc never treats the angular axes as "wrapping around". If start at A0, turn clockwise 720 degrees and then command A0, it'll turn -720 degrees not 0 degrees.
many people expect different behavior, but this is what emc does
jepler I can see a case for that being changed one day
excuse my english but i don't understand jepler
your english is fine, I'm struggling to express what I want to say.
normaly angular axis move count start 0 fine 360
emc doesn't care whether A=0 A=360 A=720 and so on actually indicate the same orientation
if your gcode has made the rotary axis turn two full circles, then to go back to A0 it turns two full circles in the oppsite direction
ok.but one turn the motor is 360 grad?
in gcode, you always command angles in degrees. A degree is 1/360 of a circle.
motioncontrol, yes if set correctly
ok thanks for your patience
You said "grad" earlier, but to me "grad" is 1/400 of a circle.
jepler, when hobbing there will be thousands of revolutions and it needs to be stopped checked and set back to start position with a small offset and re run. A wind back wont be nice
archivist: yeah I know it sucks
I dont want to see a float error in the reset either :)
archivist: oh in emc 2.3 that problem will be licked -- or at least postponed by about 100 million times as many revolutions
I must look closely at the code jmk pointed out on the list earlier
archivist: which code is that?
the gearing between axis code
encoder_ratio? or something else?
because of doubles?
adding a helical offset in as well will be fun
differential gearing :)
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maddash: it asks for a file to patch, due to 2.6.25, not 2.6.24 'th kernel... what file to patch? ()
maddash: -p1 option only, right? I have written -p1 -b options, christ the lord...
vent313: erm, try -p1, -p0, -- trial and error.
i'm knew to the world of patches
it've asked for -R, i said "no, no way"
should i say "yes, darling" ;) Think it can help with female laptops ;)
vent313: no, no
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
vent313: I meant, try 'patch --dry-run -p[...] < ..." with different -p0, -p1, etc.
vent313: the patch should apply cleanly
but patch is 2.6.24, but my kernel is 2.6.25, can it bring up des problema, as french folks say?
ok, i think that my -b option has trashed this my system. will re-install it and see
ah, i have trashed kernel files, renewing it
* alex_joni is off to bed
good night all
alex_joni: good night and sweet dreams
...with fried potato ant ketchup and... i want to eat
rtai folks say that you should only apply their patches to the exactly matching unmodified kernel
so 2.6.24 patch on 2.6.25 is "don't do that"
jepler: i pay 1 usd for 10 mb, have 2.6.25 on cd - don't want to download anything
ah and oh
I'm sorry my advice is inconvenient for you
erm, is there a '#else if' statement to check if a macro is defined?
can i download e.g. rtai-3.6.3, not rtai-3.6.2 ?? can i try to download the newest version then?
maddash: #if !defined(MACRONAME)
e.g., #ifdef XYZ ... #elifdef XYY ... #endif
jepler: so, #elif defined(XYZ)?
maddash: yes I believe that's right
maddash: Does p1 mean nice level = 1 ??
vent313: no, dude. p1 means to chop off the first directory prefix
vent313: man patch, dude.
haven't understand "patch" is a standard command...
maddash: Hunk #1 FAILED at 316.
vent313: what command are you running? care to pastebin?
maddash: where to paste it? paste.org?
sudo patch --dry-run -p1 < /usr/src/rtai-3.6.2/base/arch/x86/patches/hal-linux-2.6.24-x86-2.0-07.patch
maddash: i'm applying it to 2.6.25 kernel
that's why it doesn't work
have no another kernel, only 2.4.36.
if the patch fails, then you have to figure out what's wrong and fix it. the linux kernel often changes quite radically from 2.6.x to 2.6.x+1, and that's one reason for the advice from rtai people that I gave you earlier.
vent313: and this is executed in /usr/src/linux-2.6.24 ?
vent313: if not, have you tried i386?
cradek: really? this can be a tough reason. It's ok then. I will do it later, with free internet access and proper kernel version
maddash: trying i 386
it's 2.6.23 and: Hunk #1 succeeded at 513 with fuzz 2 (offset 22 lines). can't find file to patch at input line 20 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
ok, will read doc/html these days and learn that first-order info I have told about.
hm, funny, no rtai for 2.6.25?
maddash: yes, yes, will read it
vent313: hold on -- have you tried both patches in base/arch/x86/patches?
vent313: i see a -05.patch and -07.patch
maddash: rtai-3.6.2 are ther a newer one? How can I browse their web-site?
vent313: huh? you downloaded -3.6.2 from the link I gave you, right?
maddash: no, actually plan some attempts
maddash: and there's rtai-3.6.1 into wiki
maddash: i think it's a web site, not a
...not a Christ. But i can't be sure i have an error viewing it thru toonel.net 'proxy
though i would like to see Christ. turning off proxy and go again...
why are you using a proxy?
i pay 1 usd for 10 mb on my cell phone
use a normal internet connection?
how would a proxy help?
i'm close to the mountain snowboard mecca here at russia. Cable internet is a big weird and non-really reliable and cheap yet
isn't alex_joni in russia also?
maddash: zlib compression with no images saves about 46-70%% of traffic
maddash: don't know, but he is rather at western russia
it's close to the morning right here
ok, i've confirmed exception and i'm on the site
vent313: so why the proxy?
maddash: for http, it saves 40% of $$ i pay, for anything really compressed, this proxy is actually an obstruction, and wget with -c option is a good native tool i'm using
maddash: do you mean https://www.rtai.org/RTAI/rtai-3.6.2-m68knommu.tar.bz2
as a solution?
vent313: which rtai version did you download?
...and kernel-2.4.36 i have on cd will not support my laptop, i think
weird. it is made after that '03.2008 cd, which contains kernel-2.6.25.tar.bz2
ah... will read ~/doc/html at first, ftw
vent313: I'll extract the patch files (which are only several hundred KB) for you so that you can test them
ok, thanks, e-mail it to email@example.com, please.
i'm also learning finnish language for fun. today, i've downloaded http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Finnish-grammar
(which is a big web page). Learning french verbs was hard, 've started to learn finnish for fun. ie.languages.org or so is good, too.
the emc support spline conturing?
is possible in emc2.2.8 not load the initial scrren for select configuration and load the configuration in .ini file and open only the cnc axis interface?
motioncontrol: there were an article in en.wikipedia.org about this. So it uses a finite number of piecewise lines to "simulate" the spline, and cad -> cam program with it's settings is doing it. e.g. cam expert.
ok thenks fo spline, in my cnc a load one bidimensional array data.www.flexmotioncnc.com
motioncontrol: if you know spanish, Portuguese, italian or french, i can give you legal licensed cam expert for you verification of its manual on one or more of these languages
[21:30:29] <maddash> http://www.adrive.com/public/975ff05f2adbd450efb8bce302d4a580a571fe77b5b73e53aa33c2da70e68a9f.html
motioncontrol: i can't follow this link today, already in minus on my cell phone account
vent313: ^ that's rtai 3.5 , 3.6 , 3.6.1, 3.6.2, etc.
maddash: what do you mean?
$ md5sum.exe rtai-3.5+3.6.1+3.6.2-m68knommu.tar.bz2 909fb4da6bff04af15b6e7a67ba7b24b *rtai-3.5+3.6.1+3.6.2-m68knommu.tar.bz2
vent313: download and untar it, and see which patch would work
so you don't have to download an entire rtai pkg only to find that it doens't patch cleanly
thank god for cygwin
vent313: oh, and move to hong kong, for god's sake
maddash: are you in windows?
why to hong kong? i'm not a king kong!
ah. 5.1 mb is too huge for today. I will do it tomorrow
ok, have to quit
there is the people can send me the 5i22 file(hal,core,ini) in my mail for sutding and modification for my 5i20 card?
i use old driver 5i20 card
i want use the new hm2-pci driver
my mail is firstname.lastname@example.org thanks
fucking sparkfun -- sent me two defective cameras consecutively
anyone tried using threaded inserts in acrylic?
help! transistors prefixed with 'C' are PNP or NPN?
vs. transistors prefixed with 'A' I mean
maddash: this looks relevant, but I can't vouch for it -- I just google'd.
[23:39:11] <jepler> http://www.elexp.com/t_tranmk.htm