DaViruz_: I know the thread you speak of and all that stuff is regulated for safety so there is some specs out there somewhere.
i've come up empty in my searchs unfortunately
DaViruz_: about 1.75" OD ?
more like 3/8"
DaViruz_: is this the in or out of the regulator?
in is like 1/2"
this is for small oxy-acy welding bottles
DaViruz_: medical or industrial O2?
i guess that would make it industrial
are you sure it's only 2 threads?
1lt of O2 is awefully small tank
5what do you mean? the out on the regulator has one thread, and the fitting on the tube to the burner has another thread thread
i've set out to make an adapter to mate the two
how tall is this O2 tank?
i don't know really, i only have the regulator and the burner
[00:56:34] <JymmmEMC> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65818
you figure the striker in that pic is 8" tall
yes, this is small stuff, not exactly for production use
This is what I thought you were talking about http://images.campingworld.com/is/image/cwi/3000/30336.jpg?rgn=0,0,512,512&scl=1.105095541401274
but that's for propane
and maybe 1.25" OD
click view larger image http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/propane-adapter-tee/30336
[01:03:14] <DaViruz_> http://www.jula.se/e-Sales/esa/ItemDetails.jsp?@where.ItemID@EQ=218532
that's the kind of ocy bottle the regulator is intended for
and of course the leave the plastic cap on to cover the threads
RH == Right Hand thread
but the thread i'm interested in is the output on the regulator
who make sit?
not sure, it's pretty anonymous
Well, I can't translate that page and it has frames that they refuse to let google translate it
i learned verilog last night
DaViruz_: Here is the MFG http://www.oxyturbo.it/uk/dettaglio.php3?id=1
maddash, cool... can you teach me tonight?
LawrenceG: sorry, can't. have a 6am tomorrow
brb, switching away from windows
yeah, no info on thread sizes other then the bottle thread though, i'll just have to wait until i can pick up a thread pitch gauge
SWPadnos: You know, the only useful thing I could come up with for the Artigo is install distro on it and remote into it
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after reading cradek's latest message I attempted to download TRUNK using the command line in the wiki
and I get back ssh:connect to ost cvs.linuxcnc.org por 22: No route to host
what did I mss?
ost = host
try it now.. cvs was just down..
you were unlucky - just try again
yes, please try again. I had to take that computer down for a few minutes
ah much better .... had me worried
not that it takes much
anyone ever retrofit a bridgeport boss 15 v2xt for emc control?
will do a run in place and test as soon as possible
Speedbumps ahead! ..... I assume I remove the .in from the Makefile.inc
./configure should make a Makefile.inc for you
that's the configure source :)
configure does complain about glib
make gives me:
Makefile.inc: No such file or directory
and you've compiled trunk on this machine before?
**** Makefile.inc must specify RTPREFIX and other variables
Can I try to sound smart? wasn't glib just added? (for the stepconfig)
oh - I am thinking of something else then..
stepconf haas been there since the start of 2.2 I think
No... I've been running off an install frm the live cd
apt-get build-dep emc2
apt-get install emc2-dev
hmmm that is a bit intensive even on 600Kb/s cable
build-dep is the set of tools needed to build EMC2. if you need a lot of stuff from that set of packages, glib wo't be your last problem
well almost I'm in the directory above src, scripts, etc and can't set the enviroment
so you're in the cvs checkout root - what do you mean by environment?
I need to swap pointers so I can run trunk and not the installed version
but that will only work after a completed make, and maybe even sudo make install
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running . scripts/emc-enviroment get me a no such file or directory
it's a generated file - did the make complete?
the files are there ... in scripts and without the .in
did you configure --enable-run-in-place?
then make, then sudo make setuid?
not install - I hope you didn't do that when I mentioned it a few lines ago ...
the only install was the dev packages
which cleaned up a lot of things.
". scripts/emc-environment" says "no such file or directory"
but "ls scripts/emc-environment" shows it there?
hmm. less scripts/emc-environment
the error may be inside emc-environment
(not that bash can't find it)
dave_1: try this:
script -c "set -x; . scripts/emc-environment" out
then pastebin the created file named "out"
Ok, so maybe I'm being the dummy .... it now says the script only needs to be run once ....
but when I type emc I get my path to my old install .... must be missing something
env | grep EMC2
OK versipn, iosh, home, emcsh all point to emc2-trunk
EMC2- pre-2.3 CVS HEAD
so how do I get the chooser tree to come up right
or am I just being paranoid
you should be able to run your config from the tree, althought it might show up in a different place
under your My Configurations I think
it should show you configs in the emc2-trunk (probably labeled sample configs), plus the same ones in your home dir that you normally see
let me play a bit
hmmm - actually, they have the directory names here
mine has My Configurations on top, then directories
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GOT IT! now to go play ..... thanks for the hand holding
sure. what was the problem?
as far as setting the environment I don't know
but as soon as that looked OK then I make some changes to the stepper_inch.ini and kicked off emc
wow big room
but is anyone alive?
that's the question.
ah, hi SWP
You're pretty comfortable with EMC?
depends on what part you're talking about.
I haven't converted anything yet, so I don't actually use it
but I'm comfortable configuring, debugging, and programming with it :)
err - developing it, that is. not so much with G-code programming
How did you get involved in this project?
a friend recommended it when I was looking at retrofitting a mill/drill-style machine
SW what are you retrofitting?
well, I was originally going to get a cheapo mill/drill and use that, but I couldn't stand to get anything that crappy
so I have a Bridgeport manual machine and a Hardinge HNC lathe now, waiting for retrofit
the mill has been waiting a long time
does the Hardinge have usable motors?
i found a cheap bridgeport boss I might retrofit.. if i can get a 3 phase converter
use a VFD
eric_unterhausen, I don't know for sure
eric_unterhausen: that's the plan for now.
i have to get out and look at the machine. got iced in today
if you plan to use only one machine, then the Automation Direct VFDs are a great deal (or used ones on eBay)
if you plan to have several, then a phase converter is a good plan, even if you want a VFD on some machines
I'm pretty sure that the three phase control inputs can be fed with single phase
$750 is a decent price for a boss with a dead controller head right? with good ways and ballscrews
(I have a 3-phase grinder, bandsaw, mill, and now lathe - VFDs for all would be quite costly)
I think so, is is Series I?
i'm only planning on having the mill be 3 phase. i don't need that big of equipment
the grinder is a pedestal grinder - not so b
[05:52:52] <Devi0us> http://images.craigslist.org/3kd3m23o312b1g31409122a988fc2a1301bd7.jpg
big, but it has a 3-phase motor ;)
that's the one i'm looking at. i don't know what series it is
or manufacture date
sparc5, why do you ask?
It's interesting that you write software that you don't use.
I think it's a series one, hard to tell from that picture
I plan to use it, just haven't gotten around to it yet
SWPadnos: it's more that i don't want to rewire my workshop. i have 110/220 at every outlet. just no 3 phase
me too, but the software I wrote was so long ago that it's been superseded
Devi0us, sure - I built a rotary phase converter, and I just have a few outlets on it
i thought all the series ones had heat sinks on the z axis motors
depends on controls
the mill is wired in, but the saw plugs in, and the grinder will once I attach the right plug to it
the ones with heat sinks are steppers
those look like servos
yeah. i thought all the series 1s were stepper
but i've only been researching today, so who knows
all series II were stepper too
it looks like it might have been a retrofit already
I've seen more series I with dc motors than series II
controller won't boot, and they have another working machine and don't want to spend the time fixing this one
I'm no expert in the controls, I think it came that way
which is fine with me
there is a hardinge/bridgeport section on cnczone, there are a lot of variations
i should be able to tear it up, and just wire up geckos, and the limit switchs and just use it with emc, right?
depends on the motor feedback
basically, that is
maybe, but that probably isn't the best or least expensive thing to do
really depends on what is in that control
really? geckos are like $120 each for servo controllers (i thought)
if the servo drives in the machine work, why replace them?
that's not the end of the expense though, power supply for one thing
they're sized appropriately
true.. but i'd rather do a complete rebuild so i know end to end what's what
EMC2 can generate control signals of many types, you don't have to limit yourself to step/dir and a parallel port
i was planning on doing a seig3 until i saw this thing and got in touch wiht the seller
the geckos are probably only going to give you half speed if that matters
sure, an old BP is a much better idea, if you have the space for it
what's the tolerances on an old BP, expecting it's in good shape?
impossible to answer that
as good as a seig with a decent cncfusion kit?
depends on a lot of things, mostly how it was used and how well it was cared for
I would guess at least as good
I sense that you don't know the depth of the question you're asking ;)
no, i do.. i'm just asking for a really rough guestimate
ie: a bp can do the same tolerances if it's factory new
or, a bp is good to like .01"
i don't know what was expected out of them new
if it hasn't been beaten to hell, I think a BP should be able to hold 0.001 or so, assuming you have good ballscrews, and you aren't taking really heavy cuts
the cnc bps had nice ballscrews
static tolerance is dependent on the screws
the only problem with the series 1 is the travel is fairly tiny
yeah.. the bosses were supposed to have really good scews
11x17.5x5 as far as i know
is that the cnc version?
is $750 a decent price for an old series 1?
with a dead controller?
it sounds good to me, if the mechanics are in good order
I guess you get no tooling though?
no. none at all.
that control looks like a later PC retrofit to me
could be wrong though
and it's all nmtb30 with is more expensive than R8
I don't know if Bridgeport ever made a CNC with a mouse/trackball
SWPadnos: there was one that had a pc
good eye. i didn't notice that
I was going on cnczone to find one, that machine looks really familiar
ok, like I said, I could be wrong
and I'm headed to bed in any case. night guys
there are too many variations, and I don't really care about the controls
mine was stripped to bare metal
yeah. i plan on tearing this down if i get it
and gutting the controller cabinet
that machine looks like it is in good enough shape that I would try to do as little as possible
the object is to cut metal, correct?
well. and to give me something interesting to do up until it does cut metal
a lot of people are even using the antiquated bp stepper controls with mach
i had seen that
but i'd rather do servos and have a proper closed loop system
i've never liked steppers
how much of a pain are these to move? do they have any room underneath to slide a pallet jack?
it really depends on what is in the control cabinet. If it is easily adaptable to closed loop control that is your best bet
no room, room has to be made
some of the cheap chinese BP clones have box iron on the base
you can lever them around fairly easily
i've got a 2" lip from the bay access of my shop to the shop floor
a pallet jack would be very scary
genius that built it wanted to be able to wash his truck indoors
there is a 2" step up?
yup. the bay is sunk 2" from the rest of the shop, and center drains
the guy only had wood working equipment in it previously, so it was easy to move stuff around
I just moved my series II 15 feet using black iron pipe rollers
it weighs over 5k pounds
i was hoping i could move it around with it on the forks of a forklift
series I is half that
back over the lip
that's still over 10x what i weigh. which means i need some simple machines to move it around
mine has been on a forklift a couple of times
plus if i force it over the lip, i have a feeling i'd grind off a good deal of concrete in the process
forcing it over the lip means bridgeport on the ground
if i did like 3" to 1" pipes it would work
you need a ramp
it's going to sit about 6" back from the lip permanently
I have a similar drop into my basement
plus the transom is wood, so I didn't really want to wipe that out
I learned a method from one of my professors, you use 2 rollers
i as figuring at least 3
so you can cycle through them
3 doesn't work
you push until it is balanced on the cg
oh, ok. i see what you're saying
machine will gently rock at any slight touch
you pull the back roller out, put it in front
push until the back roller is under the cg, and repeat
what did you anchor it to while you eased it down the ramp?
it's amazing rocking a 5000lb machine so easily
it's very stable
we used that method to get it down the ramp
it didn't want to roll down on its own?
I remember pushing it down the ramp
that makes me feel better
I'm trying to remember how I got over the transom
i was working out how i was going to rig straps through the window on the side of the workshop to pull it up the ramp
lots of people lift them from the ram
if i can avoid rebuidling my engine hoist i'll be happy.. i'd rather not use a crane if i don't have to
2" isn't that much, getting it off of the 2x6 ramp was a non-event
I had the ram off though
what did it take to rock it back to get a roller under it? or is the CG high enough that it's not difficult?
sometimes I have to step up on the machine if I didn't quite get the machine centered right
also, the casting is rough underneath, so that complicates things, I have used angle iron for runners
good to know as well
i'm starting to think doing the seig might be a lot less painfull logistically
and i don't think i'll need the full size of a BP. although i'm sure that'll bite me in the ass if i don't get it
probably, but you're living with much less of a machine
i tend to move stuff around the shop a lot. a BP will use a good hunk of space, which I won't be able to move around if need be
I don't see how a sieg would be any different there, it would be a pain to deal with
300lb vs 2k
once you get the 2 roller method down, 2k is nothing
what's the total footprint on a BP? i'm figuring i'll need at least 6'x6'
with the controller arm
[06:28:55] <eric_unterhausen> http://jeep534.smugmug.com/gallery/5099973_TQC2C#307649501_owpex
guessing that is similar to the cl mill
footprint wise at least
looks pretty close
you see the split down the center of the table? that's series I stock cnc
heh. they use telco racks for parts storage
it's on the CL mill too
[06:31:30] <Devi0us> http://images.craigslist.org/3n53kd3o1116122146912445ad4660d581eab.jpg
[06:31:41] <Devi0us> http://images.craigslist.org/3nd3md3o311b1331g99124ddda919ae421188.jpg
those are the only other 2 images
the speed changer is a hoot
actually, it's the back gear lever
that's what's right above the e-stop right?
they have a chain drive on it
oh, you're still looking at the smugmug one?
yeah, the link I gave has a better picture
that equipment is the same between the two mills
ok. the head controls looked a little different
maybe the chain drive is out of frame
[06:35:00] <eric_unterhausen> http://jeep534.smugmug.com/gallery/5099973_TQC2C#307657951_UVUcb
the actual speed drive has an air motor on it
ok. i was wondering if those were for a quick change collet or something
cradek ... you still around
smugmug machine appears to have some kind of tool changer, CL machine doesn't
i have a feeling the CL machine was bought broken, and they never got around to getting it workign again
happens a lot
if a business is making money, they probably should just call up a retrofit control company and have it done for them
it's a custom shop in someone's garage
the guy does one offs
he has a working cnc mill, a manual BP, and a manual hardinge lathe
same story though, he's better off making customer parts than fixing a machine
but he's not bringing in enough money to have someone service the machine
[06:48:48] <eric_unterhausen> http://www.cnczone.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/854/cat/500/ppuser/1053
you need to be logged in to cnczone
are those the stock motors for x,y,z?
no, motors were stripped
machine was pretty much stripped
what are you making on it?
doesn't run yet
oh. pictures were dated 05, so i wasn't sure
I'm very slow
had an accident last year which put me off for a while, and then work got busy
heh. that's another thing i'm worried about is that it'll sit idle in the shop and i'll never do anything with it
that's why you want to do as little work as possible to get it working
if you can use what's there and just tap in, it's worth it
as long as it's safe
would you recommend having a manual mill handy as well as the cnc? i'm building the shop from the ground up. I'm figuring i'll get a 10"x22" lathe, and a smaller manual mill in addition to the CNC mill
manual mills are great
time for bed. thanks for the insight
sure, good luck
alex_joni, heh bosses car stolen from his drive last night!
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i still need to make a 4th / A axis, been looking at the small rotary tables on ebay, just not sure of the backlash
what I looked at at the midlands model engineer, only the Vertex comes close, but even they have play
at a sensible price that is
i guess some have adjustment for how much the worm gear meshes etc
I must finish my trunnion design
so it should be possible to tweak it down
but tweak to far and they jam part of the rev
i guess it would be possible to use some valve grinding paste to bed all the gears in properly, just put a reasonably fast motor on the worm drive input
I make sure i dont climb mill
and tweak with grinding paste
I would not do that as that will effect accuracy
in terms of per degree accuracy or by revolution linearity?
I done some worm and wheel measuring here as the dividing was poor for gear cutting and found the error to be quality of the worm/wheel pair
ah right so better to find a nice rotary table in the 1st place
degree accuracy varies per tooth engagement
something not cast out of reconstituted ally in china then...
vertex grind theirs
and they use a high count wheel (90)
my gear cutting here seems ok with one of their 4 1/2" tables but I do have issues with it
the el cheapo from RDG is awful I felt a mile of play at the ex
vertex HV6 seems to go for about 120 quid, not bad i spose
alright for a model engineer who clamps the table at setting only
i need to mill a feed for 25.6GHz, i can either mill a conical spiral to get the meat out, or get a rotaty table and use that
I was going to get another vertex for 5th axis, but decided to make a trunnion, and will sell them if I can get capital and the tools to make them
or send the gcode to me
so the 5th rotates the head along the X axis?
something like that yes
i've not thought about anything >4 so far
I keep having to move the 4th flat vertical, angle.....
i cut out 16 waveguide flanges for 24GHz for a local amateur out of a sheet of brass, he was well pleased with the results!
and over xmas i did a paying job on my cnc!
some clutch adaptor plate for a motor bike
mine is here at work and only does paying so far. I want to do some microwave one day
and test with the HP toys
[11:53:17] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/collection/archive/DJCPD/PD/2006_04_09_skeleton_base/P4082262.JPG
i've cad'ed up some boxes for 8.4GHz low noise amps, just need to make them
a ham down the road from me had one of them for sale
testing a 10gig discone was fun
had, you didnt snap it up
ah no i thought about it, the ones i'm used to have the spec-an type display not the smith chart type
polar vs linear i spose the right terms are
they are plug ins
ahh right , i didnt look at it too closely
perhaps i'll give him an email, it'll still be rotting in his shed
see extension box above with the other display and lf one has the meter version
I have a spare meter type
ah it was a 8410 Network Analyser
not a HP one
heh that in the pick is an 8410
ah yes disregard that comment above ;-)
with an 8412A display
trying to do too many things at once ;-)
[12:01:05] <pjm1> http://www.g4jnt.com/SCC_SoakTest.JPG
its the thing in the background
display above is 8414 and left an is 8407 with 8411
the lf 8407 http://www.archivist.info/collection/archive/DJCPD/PD/2006_04_09_skeleton_base/P4082261.JPG
to 110 meg
may be of interest , linux driver for indramat CLP sercos motion control http://freshmeat.net/projects/linuxclc-driver/?branch_id=72045&release_id=291649
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2009-01-08.txt
beware its really a tgz file not a gz as identified
pjm1, that one local to you, make sure it has an 8411 its the test head which has the real microwave bit in it and I got the meter display number wrong thats 8413
ah yes good thinking, i'll email the guy and ask him again
pjm1, and then that connects to a test set analyser is on top of two types in first pick
pjm1, and then that connects to a test set, analyser is on top of two types in first pick
does anyone know anything about using gcode to produce raster data? all the raster to gcode stuff I see is raster to vector
I want to actually 'print' with a laser
maybe I can find something hpgl based then convert to gcode
there are colour to height for 3d milling
and they do raster
forget the indramat sercos thingy, just ascii protocol to closed src isa/pc104/vme/serial card
hm, sounds complex
shrdlu-, nah simple and may be exacly what you need to change burn density
gcode doesnt sound like what you want
sounds more like fax
well, I have to get it into gcode at some point
thus my presence here
fax is converrting horz scanned rows into on & offs, then converting on & offs to 1 row of an an image
emc can do more than gcode
but gcode is most common
you could use hal
didn't realize tha
i saw a great demonstration of the techique last nite
it was actually invented way before the telephone
cant tell, i googled it and get tons to read, but hink converting some msdos acad thingy will be very difficult ( not open src )
hard not to get lost in references to fax machines
I hate fax machines
never use if it got trough or not >.>
* fragalot goes back to cursing over the exam material... C#.NET + microchip PIC USB interfacing
damn i shoulda kept that url, it was 2 loony brits , old lathes, treated papper, arcs sparking on the slowly turning paper drum... really was good, they even kludged up a sync system
this looks good, jpl released a big robotics toolkit ( weird caltech license tho ) http://www-robotics.jpl.nasa.gov/news/newsStory.cfm?NewsID=69
includng "vision infrastructure for images, color images, camera models, 3D point cloud, and surface normal image representations"
did the colour change on that map? :D
Let's play a game of "Guess who I just quoted"
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
i dont know who but its pretty funny, yogi berra?
tomp: George Bush
[13:00:11] <fragalot> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7809160.stm
-- lots of other "bushisms" on here too :p
gotta love that ugy
I hate the way people now are trying to imply he was a great president, but under appreciated
i use internet to watch tv here in taiwan. i tried several tools, but mplayer with a script runs without stalls and hiccups.
reminds me of the fury you feel when a company wont deliver the product you ordered and you fume and consider what negative feedback to give them
like this mplayer -autosync 30 http://126.96.36.199:92
then the item gets delivered and you just cant be bothered
will get you mst3k anywhere in the world
mystery science theatre 3000
oops trucated that its .... :9290 fro the port
surely this raster thing must be well solved somewhere. Pretty much every laser cutter with a driver comes with raster ability
alex_joni, apparently a paper was found about 10miles away, we just came back from a hunt, I dont care about the car but he had a pile of 8mm collets in it
- this is the vertex rotary table, u reckon this would be ok for a 4th axis conversion?
they are not too bad :) I have the smaller
ah ok in that case i'll get one to play with
u fitted a stepper to one?
[14:25:57] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/cnc/stage4/P2030017.JPG
someone was providing the tube and a plate for the motor
with that score he probably has a shop in Dunstable
I wonder http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/Personal_Callers.html
ah yes its Chronos drop in and feel one
or at ally pally this weekend
oh, there are plenty of bitmap to gcode examples on the wiki
from efnet electronics?
learning the right google search priceless
well, no =D
i dont hang in #electronics because of stu and because its dead, i still hang out with all the same people tho
you should join the freenode #electronics
i used to idle there
I dont like stu either
no one does =(
or many of the others there
timecop makes me want to cry
ha, hes ok
freenode #electronics has a few odd characters as well
like, yes hes a world famous troll and a douchebag
Hi guys, this is a bit off topic, but I'm wondering about mounting a chuck on my new lathe, it's a chinese lathe so I wasn't expecting very high precision, but the chuck is quite missaligned compared to the chucks back plate. Removed the chuck from the backplate and cleaned it up, remounted, seems better but still quite a bit out. Any tips?
he's an interesting guy, but quite insane
but he learns and he actually knows a bit
well, yes but its efnet
I keep coming across your 'blog' when searching for things on google
The_Ball, for really bad chucks after the backplate is corrected, I fit spacers between the jaws and use a toolpost grinder
it's this lathe btw, which I will convert soon, http://www.carbatec.com.au/metalworking/metalworking-lathes/carba-tec-midsize-metal-lathe
the one timecop made, yeah
he crys if i kick the bot and i dont really care if what i say in that chan is sprayed onto the web
im pretty sure these logs are posted too
archivist, not sure what a toolpost grinder does, but the backplate seems quite good, it's only when I mount the chuck on the bacplate it goes wrong
also, that shit is a trip to read, like months later out of context
The_Ball, make 6 identical spacers to tighten against, toolpost grinder I use a dremel
must clean up after and use a slow fine cut on the gripping surface
pjm1, chronos is booked for http://www.meridienneexhibitions.co.uk/our-events-detail.php?id=0000000002
i wonder if they have show specials etc
archivist ah, you actually grind the gripping surfaces
others may as well
The_Ball, but 3 jaw chucks are never that good
they have to be bad to bother
archivist: did he at least have insurance?
i'll put in a collet holder to make sure the headstock is turning true
alex_joni, only the cheapest so dunno if he will get anything
archivist: then it's a pita :/
I just heard a "nice" thing on teh news last night
apparently when you steal a rented car it's not regarded as stealing
as you have the original car keys and papers
insurance doesn't pay the owner (company) anything in that case
even legally it's not regarded as stealing
it's abuse of trust or something like that
you can get off with a fine if you get caught, or max 3-4 years of jail
yup and the law of contract comes into play
that's why I like western rentals.. without a CC, you can't rent :)
if you steal it, they simply debit the car value from your cc
alex_joni: friend of mine got busted for stealing his own car.
and got 4yrs iirc, then 3years on probation
(which ends in may or something)
false claim on the insurance?
his own car?
It was almost fully paid off, but at the last month or so, he couldn't afford it anymore, and told the company to come and get it. they said they would, never showed up, then cops knocked on his door.
sounds like a case for judge judy, rather than the criminal justice system
this python script on the wiki does bitmap to gcode in about 20 lines of code
my scope is annoying the fuck out of me
without displaing all of my ignorance how does one set G55 to 15, 7.5, -3 with G10
g10 l2 p2 x15 y7.5 z-3
ok next step .... my ini limits are set to -0.2 30 , -0.2 15, and 0.2 -7.5 G54 cooresponds to LL for X and Y and up for spindle, does this
clash with axis assumptions?
no, that's fine, but most people using AXIS offset g54 for a workpiece origin (touch off button)
but you sure don't have to
my var says -15, -7.5 and 4 for g55
I tend to leave g54 at machine zero and offset all the rest
but axis keeps complaining about my coordinates.
when I type g10 l2 p2 x15 y7.5 z-3, I get this
and when I g55 g0 x0 y0 z0, then g54, the dro says 15 7.5 -3
this is all what I expect
5211, 5212, 5213 are the -15, -7.5, 4
let me start axis again and see what happens.
that's a g92 offset
program g92.1 to get rid of it
or in TRUNK, click machine / zero coordinate system / G92
ah! things are b better. :-)
can I use KDE4 without messing things up?
emc should work the same regardless of your choice of desktop environment.
even the icons?
I don't know much about linux
then you're probably better off sticking with defaults
most of emc is written using more mature GUI toolkits so they don't pay much attention to the "themes" set by the various desktop environments
in other words, the icons shown in AXIS won't change
as a user lurking in here for a couple of years nearly, messing with the distro causes a lot of question
yah, I'm just wondering how cautious to be about that stuff
shrdlu-: I'm not sure you're still have the menu for starting emc on some of the desktop environments
I think xfce is one that doesn't do that
for kde I'm not sure.. I suspect it should do the right thing
cradek .... making progress .... finally got the coordinates right ... that g92 was really messing with me
found that I omitted an entry from the tool table and emc did not halt... just took off on a wierd path.
entered 0.01 in the tool table and didn't see a cooresponding shift in my tool path ...
however emc did not crash either. ...
did you reload the program (in AXIS)? I don't know if it regenerates the preview on tool table load
you need to reload tool table, and reload program
OK , I shut down and restarted and it did load the new tool table since I now get the "cutter gouging with cutter radius comp" message
and things will not execute
the guy who wrote the cam.py script in your wiki is the same who wrote 'The Nature of Mathematical Modeling'
hah, wtf, that cam.py script even has a gui, all in one file
that guy is amazing
he's written the whole thing in functions too
[19:37:54] <shrdlu-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gershenfeld
wtf does Gershenfeld have to do with cam.py?
he wrote it
shrdlu-: where is cam.py located in the src tree?
where did I say it was in the source tree?
how the fuck are we supposed to know what cam.py is, then?
this is #emc, fyi
maybe you should actually read what I'm typing
you're obviously not doing it very well
:( missed that first line.
there we go
has a gazillion links
I could just give you like think if you like?
[20:03:37] <shrdlu-> http://web.media.mit.edu/~neilg/fab/dist/cam.py
there are file conversion programs that do less than that script charging $1000 a pop
erm, "I could just give you the link if you like"
how the hell did that turn into 'like think'
I am word salad
no, i was pointing out how messy that wiki page was
it is good, though
this is really exciting: http://flashfabrica.com/f_learning/brain/brain.html
you'll see some numbers shortly, then they dissapear and you need to click on circles where the numbers were, in ascending order
(it's supposed to tell you your brain age, which amazingly is quite close to your actual age :)
that is absurd ;)
shrdlu-: try it.. it was spot on for me :D (and a couple of my friends)
I'm so baked right now, I'd be off the scale#
lucky me. my brain is half as old as I am :)
SWPadnos: I would have expected that :P
ga ga goo goo
not _that_ young though
what did you get?
heh. of all the useless promo emails: "Spend the Weekend with Barry Manilow for only $120"
and it's not even spam
good night all