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[01:46:42] <JP> JP is now known as Guest58959
[01:58:08] <Guest58959> has anyone heard of a conversational addon to emc
[02:12:11] <cradek> Not really. I'm not even sure what conversational means - can you say more specifically what you're trying to do?
[02:14:13] <DanielFalck> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Simple_EMC_G-Code_Generators
[02:15:04] <Guest58959> simple macros or canned cycles
[02:15:06] <DanielFalck> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Cam
[02:17:00] <Guest58959> Perfect thanks
[02:17:02] <cradek> the Gcode dialect (RS274NGC) has canned cycles for boring/tapping/drilling, variables, looping, subroutines, etc.
[02:17:23] <cradek> what some controls call macros we would call subroutines
[02:18:07] <Guest58959> Yeah i used the term in the wrong context
[02:18:07] <KimK> I think Lerman is working on conversational. Long-term project, maybe? He mentioned it at the 2008 CNC workshop.
[02:18:08] <cradek> here is the documentation for subroutines:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.2/html/gcode_main.html#r6_1
[02:19:37] <cradek> Lerman is working on an infrastructure for a group of wizards that are user-writable
[02:19:41] <Guest58959> i saw a thread on another site showing weber systems having a synergy lite package. Anyone know about it
[02:20:17] <cradek> I think synergy's website is webersys.com
[02:20:26] <Guest58959> it was advertised as a conversational package for emc
[02:20:34] <DanielFalck> were did you see the thread?
[02:20:47] <Guest58959> the funny thing is webbers site has nothing on it
[02:20:50] <Guest58959> one sec
[02:21:05] <Guest58959> http://webersys.com/images/SynergyLite.jpg
[02:21:05] <cradek> I see the word 'conversational' on webersys.com
[02:21:37] <Guest58959> i got the link from a post but cant find it on thier site
[02:21:52] <cradek> did you ask them?
[02:22:21] <DanielFalck> pocketing is the only thing that we are lacking for open source cam now
[02:22:50] <DanielFalck> there are quite a few programs now that will get you the g code on linux
[02:22:51] <Guest58959> not yet i will call in the morn
[02:23:20] <DanielFalck> here's a simple dxf profile to gcode program in python:
[02:23:23] <DanielFalck> http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.christian-kohloeffel.homepage.t-online.de/dxf2gocde.html
[02:23:48] <DanielFalck> it does work halfway decent too
[02:24:00] <Guest58959> it would be nice for those quick one off's
[02:24:05] <DanielFalck> I'm going to get into it and see what it takes to alter the actual start position
[02:26:16] <dmess> sup boys... went for supper
[02:26:44] <DanielFalck> dmess uses apt for all his programming needs
[02:27:05] <Guest58959> Yeah i do work for his company
[02:27:15] <dmess> whenever i can for sure
[02:27:15] <Guest58959> he turned me on to emc
[02:27:16] <DanielFalck> me and dmess are the 'apt brothers '
[02:27:47] <DanielFalck> oh, you know him....
[02:27:48] <dmess> JP??
[02:27:54] <Guest58959> yep
[02:28:14] <Guest58959> i dont know why my id changed
[02:28:23] <dmess> have you heard... Steve Legg passed away
[02:28:44] <Guest58959> yeah is a shame
[02:29:53] <Guest58959> did he ge to go on his trip before he passed
[02:30:09] <dmess> yes. he did..
[02:30:14] <Guest58959> good
[02:30:42] <dmess> i hugged him before he left
[02:31:55] <Guest58959> he would of loved to play around with this stuff
[02:32:17] <dmess> DF is one of the good guys..
[02:32:35] <dmess> no doubt my friend
[02:33:40] <SWPadnos> Guest58959, you could use the /nick command: "/nick jpmoniz" (or whatever)
[02:35:15] <Guest58959> Guest58959 is now known as jpmoniz
[02:35:20] <jpmoniz> sorry
[02:35:22] <SWPadnos> yep, like that :)
[02:35:37] <SWPadnos> no big deal - it seemed like it bothered you though :)
[02:36:20] <jpmoniz> it did i havent us irc for a while just bowin off the rust
[02:36:27] <SWPadnos> heh
[02:40:02] <dmess> i'll be in tomorrow night 6 ish the kids and all we all knew him and his boys
[02:41:42] <jpmoniz> me too
[02:42:35] <dmess> see ya there
[02:43:45] <dmess> this won't be easy
[02:44:01] <jpmoniz> i went to load emc on to my desktop this weekedn just to find out it went up in smoke
[02:44:38] <dmess> really?
[02:45:05] <jpmoniz> yeah the ps mst be gone maybe the main board
[02:45:15] <dmess> the phyical box went poof or the o/s
[02:45:39] <dmess> p/s 1 st..
[02:46:05] <dmess> ive put 3 in this machine by now
[02:46:11] <StPeteNick> smoke = hardware problem (?)
[02:46:22] <jpmoniz> it was dead when i went down
[02:46:33] <jpmoniz> i dont use it much
[02:47:02] <jpmoniz> its only 6 months old
[02:47:26] <dmess> they have poched in weeks on me
[02:47:33] <dmess> pooched
[02:48:06] <dmess> smoke break... brb
[02:48:10] <jpmoniz> I think im going to mount the pc in my drive panel anyways
[02:49:30] <SWPadnos> hey - you guys are near Toronto, right?
[02:49:33] <SWPadnos> in/near
[02:54:30] <StPeteNick> bye all
[02:55:09] <jpmoni> yeah oshawa just east of toronto
[02:56:09] <SWPadnos> ah, ok. I may be up that way end of January
[02:56:21] <SWPadnos> probably the other end of town though, Mississauga (sp?)
[02:57:00] <jpmoni> drop us a line mississauga isnt far
[02:57:16] <SWPadnos> yep, if I have any free time I'll do that
[02:57:22] <SWPadnos> if I'm there in the first place :)
[02:57:35] <jpmoni> what brings you up there
[02:57:53] <SWPadnos> posibly filming something
[02:57:56] <SWPadnos> +s
[02:59:56] <jpmoni> i have looked at the sample hal files for the mesa pci card can i just modify it for my epp card
[03:00:09] <SWPadnos> not quite
[03:00:18] <SWPadnos> there should be a sample for the 7i43 as well
[03:00:49] <jpmoni> i did not see it but i will look
[03:00:59] <mumptai> good night
[03:01:09] <SWPadnos> hmm. there was one floating around on the user list for a while I think
[03:01:12] <SWPadnos> bu mumptai
[03:01:13] <SWPadnos> bye
[03:14:23] <dmess> i have 70% of the caelinux iso
[03:14:44] <jpmoni> whats that
[03:14:50] <dmess> http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/
[03:15:47] <dmess> looks pretty slick to me
[03:16:16] <jpmoni> looks good
[03:17:40] <dmess> we'll see whAT it pumps up against what Ryan is doing at Durham
[03:18:28] <jpmoni> nx is good i like cosmos
[03:18:38] <dmess> the d/l is 50 k/B per sec max
[03:19:05] <dmess> he's running NX now as best i know
[03:19:19] <dmess> you have it jacked>??
[03:19:22] <jpmoni> are you on a phone line or what
[03:19:43] <dmess> no.. it the other end
[03:19:51] <jpmoni> i have a legit copy i bought
[03:20:05] <dmess> of nx?
[03:20:17] <jpmoni> solidworks
[03:20:42] <dmess> oh i thought UG NX
[03:20:56] <jpmoni> ug is nx
[03:21:06] <dmess> si
[03:21:41] <jpmoni> cosmos is a addon of solidworks also sold as standalone FEA
[03:21:49] <dmess> it isnt unix though
[03:22:23] <jpmoni> i dont know if they have a unix base or not
[03:22:37] <dmess> that caelinux looks like it could kick some ass
[03:23:40] <jpmoni> a package like that would cost at min 10k so its worth a look
[03:24:12] <dmess> no doubt.. im in 71 %
[03:28:31] <jpmoni> how is your lathe comming along
[03:30:32] <dmess> have the spindle controller hooked to the pc but not to the vfd yet.. its still not doing what i want it to yet
[03:30:52] <jpmoni> what is the issue
[03:31:31] <dmess> the 0-10V its all over the place right now
[03:31:52] <jpmoni> from the board
[03:32:23] <dmess> yes... but i think its me programming hal...
[03:32:46] <dmess> that fu$#%ing it up
[03:32:53] <jpmoni> what boards are you using
[03:33:08] <dmess> cnc4pc
[03:33:14] <dmess> c6
[03:46:56] <jpmoni> good night
[04:04:07] <seb_kuzminsky> jpmoni: the sample config for the 7i43 is called "hm2-servo"
[04:04:13] <seb_kuzminsky> jpmoni: the sample config for the 7i43 is called "hm2-servo"
[04:04:31] <seb_kuzminsky> jpmoni: the sample config for the 7i43 is called "hm2-servo"
[04:04:44] <seb_kuzminsky> jpmoni: the sample config for the 7i43 is called "hm2-servo"
[04:05:15] <seb_kuzminsky> jpmoni: the sample config for the 7i43 is called "hm2-servo"
[04:05:21] <seb_kuzminsky> hm
[04:05:48] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: what's it called again?
[04:05:59] <seb_kuzminsky> hm
[04:06:29] <DanielFalck> seb_kuzminsky: what's the sample config for the 7i43 called again : )
[04:06:34] <seb_kuzminsky> ugh
[04:06:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm a retard
[04:06:52] <SWPadnos> I think it's hostmot2-7i43-servo-config or something
[04:07:07] <seb_kuzminsky> someone suspend my internet license
[04:07:21] <SWPadnos> YOUR INTERNET LICENSE IS HEREBY REVOKED
[04:07:29] <SWPadnos> err, SUSPENDED
[04:07:30] <DanielFalck> that's not as bad as when my cat decided to chat here about 2 years ago
[04:07:41] <SWPadnos> sadly, nobody noticed :)
[04:07:43] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah but your cat's a cat
[04:07:44] <DanielFalck> she loved to sleep on the keyboard
[04:08:13] <DanielFalck> gave her a good massage or something
[04:12:06] <dmess> i have 2 kitties who like to walk and wromp on keys
[04:13:21] <dmess> im quite sure 1 laptop went down for sake of kitties
[04:17:44] <dmess> im off for the night... be well all
[04:27:08] <maddash> 2.28 is released! will there be a party?
[04:29:05] <weenerdog> howdy
[04:29:53] <cradek> hi - is you real name shitbird or weenerdog?
[04:29:57] <cradek> your
[04:29:59] <cradek> dangit
[04:30:10] <weenerdog> weenerdog :)
[04:30:18] <cradek> oh, ok
[04:30:19] <cradek> just wondered.
[04:30:45] <weenerdog> i make mandolins. thinking about building a 3 axis...
[04:30:45] <maddash> cradek: wow. I've never seen you type a 4-letter epithet before...
[04:31:14] <cradek> maddash: it was 8
[04:31:29] <cradek> weenerdog: neat
[04:31:43] <weenerdog> yeah :) would save me a few days per
[04:32:44] <weenerdog> i sort of carve the soundboards w/ cnc now, except my eyes and hands are the controller. i generate contour maps in cad, print them, rubber cement to the wood, then route to the printed lines
[04:33:21] <cradek> hnc
[04:33:28] <weenerdog> lol yeah i reckon
[04:33:46] <maddash> cradek: import re; len(re.findall('(shit|fuck|crap)','hi - is you real name shitbird or weenerdog?')[0])
[04:34:03] <cradek> so you just want to use it to cut a profile? not complex 3d stuff?
[04:34:16] <weenerdog> pretty complex 3d actually
[04:35:57] <cradek> maddash: skyscraper
[04:36:17] <cradek> maddash: scrapbook
[04:36:34] <cradek> (your algorithm is flawed)
[04:36:36] <eric_u1> I tried carving a mando once, I made it too thin. Apparently this is quite common
[04:36:45] <maddash> cradek: whoops. hang on
[04:36:49] <eric_u1> (by hand)
[04:36:50] <weenerdog> this shows the outside profile of the soundboard
http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q306/weenerdog/top_finished1.jpg
[04:37:16] <weenerdog> eric_u1, its a numbers game. and yeah it is not hard at all to make them too thin
[04:37:44] <eric_u1> I should try it again, the sides are pretty nice
[04:37:53] <cradek> that looks like very exacting and tedious work
[04:38:11] <weenerdog> exacting yes tedious no. not to me.
[04:38:40] <cradek> you play too I assume?
[04:39:35] <weenerdog> i would just be thrilled if i could carve the basic profile w/ cnc and leave it about .040" big for fine tuning. the final thicknessing is done by tapping the wood and listening to the tone it makes, carve more, tap, listen...wash rinse repeat
[04:39:50] <weenerdog> yes i play. got into making them because i wanted a better one than i could afford
[04:40:03] <cradek> neat. a friend of mine wanted to make a violin, but doesn't play the violin - I can't see how that would work very well.
[04:40:24] <eric_u1> it's pretty common
[04:40:51] <eric_u1> if you're good at making, you can't practice enough to be a great player
[04:40:54] <maddash> cradek: this (
http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-developer@scam.xcf.berkeley.edu/msg03691.html) isn't you, is it?
[04:41:07] <cradek> I think he started, but didn't finish (also common I'm sure)
[04:41:19] <weenerdog> you dont have to be a musician to build great instruments. you'd need to work with a musician enough to learn what a good final setup entails
[04:42:09] <cradek> maddash: no, I would never send such a badly-formatted email
[04:42:47] <cradek> weenerdog: are you thinking of starting with an existing machine, or starting from nothing?
[04:43:15] <weenerdog> oh building one for sure
[04:44:20] <cradek> how big would the working area need to be?
[04:44:48] <weenerdog> i programmed and ran wire EDMs and okuma and citizen lathes once upon a time
[04:45:08] <cradek> nice - that experience will help a lot I bet.
[04:45:49] <weenerdog> mmm... 12" x 18" would be fine for mandolins, but if i build one, i'll go a lot bigger so i can do other things with it. maybe 36" x 48"
[04:46:24] <cradek> woo, that's an entirely different animal then
[04:47:38] <weenerdog> the tolerances i wanna hold aren't that tight, cradek.
[04:48:09] <weenerdog> like i said, 40 thou (as long as its in one direction) is way good enough
[04:49:49] <weenerdog> basically, i've got a handle on it except 1)what sort of rails do i wanna use and 2)what controller works nice with emc2
[04:50:29] <cradek> emc2 really can drive whatever you want
[04:50:40] <eric_u1> maybe you should go smaller
[04:50:47] <eric_u1> 24x24 would do guitars
[04:50:50] <cradek> from any common stepper driver to any common analog input AC or DC servo interface
[04:51:39] <cradek> I understand for wood you need a very fast spindle and consequently the ability to move it over the work pretty fast. little steppers probably aren't going to be at all adequate
[04:52:14] <cradek> but you should start by figuring out what kind of motion you need, how much mass you're moving, how much power that needs, and then pick motors and drives
[04:52:48] <cradek> (but I don't do wood and I've never built a machine like that...)
[04:53:06] <weenerdog> actually, fast speeds, low feed, and light passes is where its at for the woods i work with.
[04:53:56] <weenerdog> emphasis on light passes. i do not care how long it takes to carve. if it took 6 hours, its 5x as fast as me :)
[04:54:29] <cradek> so true, and you can read a book or take a nap...
[04:55:20] <weenerdog> or do other work...
[04:56:13] <weenerdog> eric_u1, i will build the biggest one that is practical so that i can do signage or something when i'm not carving mandolins. machine may as well pay for itself
[04:58:07] <stustev1> sounds like weenerdog is a capitalist
[04:58:38] <jmkasunich> weenerdog: understood, but keep in mind that costs are not a linear function of size
[04:58:47] <jmkasunich> double the size, more than double the cost
[04:58:56] <eric_u1> a smaller machine might get done faster
[04:59:20] <eric_u1> lots easier to maintain accuracy
[04:59:21] <stustev1> speaking from experience a smaller machine will get done much faster
[04:59:50] <SWPadnos> speaking from experience, machines never get done :)
[04:59:51] <eric_u1> lots of luthiers have small machines and lots of applications for that
[05:00:05] <eric_u1> mine are actually devolving
[05:00:09] <stustev1> SWPadnos: no kidding
[05:00:15] <SWPadnos> heh
[05:00:25] <SWPadnos> maybe with two I'll finish one :)
[05:00:44] <cradek> SWPadnos: when do you get your lathe?
[05:00:51] <stustev1> i have three in various states of completion
[05:01:00] <SWPadnos> I'm heading out Thursday, assuming I can get everything ready in time
[05:01:07] <SWPadnos> just picked up the trailer today
[05:02:54] <eric_u1> you got a controller?
[05:03:04] <SWPadnos> several :)
[05:03:11] <eric_u1> for the trailer
[05:03:15] <SWPadnos> oh, that
[05:03:21] <SWPadnos> no, that's one thing I need to get done
[05:04:04] <SWPadnos> oil change, transmission checkout/service, and then there are the actual work things I should try to get done first
[05:18:24] <SWPadnos> night all
[05:21:41] <weenerdog> nitey nite. thanks for the chat. i'll look back in. nice channel.
[09:28:04] <archivist> anonimasu, wasnt around yesterday
[09:32:13] <alex_joni> that was me :)
[09:34:39] <archivist> did you point him at #mysql
[09:36:40] <alex_joni> archivist: nope ;)
[09:37:15] <archivist> 500+ people in there plenty of help 24/7
[09:40:03] <alex_joni> mhhmm
[09:40:09] <alex_joni> ok, will let him know
[09:41:17] <archivist> and of course I have the bot in there with all the mysql factoids
[09:46:55] <Guest955> hii
[09:47:09] <Guest955> can anyone help me?
[09:47:35] <archivist> maybe
[09:47:42] <Guest955> ok
[09:47:54] <Guest955> I want to configure EMC2
[09:48:04] <Guest955> for using Serial Port
[09:48:13] <Guest955> Can I Do this?
[09:49:06] <Guest955> Now I build home CNC and I use Servo Motor for this
[09:50:02] <archivist> serial port would be useless for servos
[09:50:33] <Guest955> Can you tell me why?
[09:50:56] <archivist> not fats enough/realtime
[09:51:01] <archivist> fast
[09:51:16] <Guest955> yes
[09:53:03] <archivist> what sort of machine lathe mill router?
[09:53:20] <Guest955> Mill
[09:54:31] <Guest955> Can you say me how use serial port in EMC2??
[09:54:33] <archivist> so 3 or more axis
[09:54:39] <Guest955> 3 axis
[09:55:00] <archivist> Im running 4 axis mill at the moment
[09:55:07] <Guest955> good
[09:55:38] <archivist> I use the parallel port and 3 stepper drivers
[09:55:42] <archivist> 3
[09:55:44] <archivist> 4
[09:56:00] <archivist> cold fingers this morning
[09:56:43] <Guest955> what reference of your Motors?
[09:58:33] <archivist> what do you mean by "reference"
[09:58:56] <Guest955> Motor's Type?
[09:59:11] <archivist> http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Stepper-Motors
[09:59:27] <archivist> I got mine and the drivers from there
[10:00:47] <Guest955> I can't buy form internet*
[10:00:49] <archivist> 180Ncm - 1/4" Shaft - for my z,y and 220 for Z a second hand motor for A
[10:01:32] <Guest955> is this motor strong??
[10:01:34] <archivist> I perchased direct I did no use the internet
[10:02:05] <archivist> strong enough for a small mill
[10:03:26] <Guest955> the long of my CNC is 1.50m
[10:03:43] <archivist> those are probably too small then
[10:04:28] <archivist> servos probably a better fit for your machine
[10:04:45] <Guest955> I didn't find strong stepper motor
[10:05:50] <Guest955> now i use servos
[10:08:39] <Guest955> have you informations about using Serial Port??
[10:09:20] <archivist> no one uses serial for servos
[10:10:23] <Guest955> yes, it is logical
[10:10:44] <Guest955> is serial good for stepper??
[10:11:11] <archivist> no
[10:11:39] <archivist> serial is basicly not used by EMC2 at all
[10:11:52] <Guest955> Does EMC2 support serial port??
[10:12:02] <archivist> directlu no
[10:12:44] <archivist> far too slow for the servo control loop
[10:14:18] <Guest955> Can I mixed between Serial and Parallel?
[10:14:46] <Guest955> I want to reduce wires
[10:15:00] <Guest955> is there any solutions??
[10:15:20] <archivist> please forget serial
[10:17:38] <archivist> the computer becomes part of the machine why should the amount of wires be a problem
[10:18:02] <Guest955> so, I must use two parallel port??
[10:21:58] <archivist> or a PCI interface card
[10:22:27] <Guest955> how?
[10:22:58] <archivist> look at the mesa cards
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2_Supported_Hardware
[10:25:07] <Guest955> Can I build this card because it isn't sale in my country??
[10:25:54] <archivist> would be easier ot import one
[10:26:06] <archivist> what country
[10:26:35] <Guest955> Algeria
[10:28:44] <Guest955> it is difficult to importing one
[10:31:06] <Guest955> to import this card, I must be out my country for buying it
[10:42:26] <Guest955> thank you very much for your helping
[10:45:42] <archivist> there is normally someone in here who can answer various questions
[11:44:27] <tomp> on a non emc control, i just added a relay to switch the Velocity command from the control to a pot.
[11:44:28] <tomp> The application is to change an orienting angular axis into a spindle.
[11:44:28] <tomp> When under the control, it is an axis, when attached to the pot, its a spindle.
[11:44:28] <tomp> The control has a signal that 'opens the loop'.
[11:44:28] <tomp> This is handy for me but I dont know how to 'open the loop' on an axis in emc.
[11:44:28] <tomp> I think Dallur has done similar.
[12:04:06] <CNC> I have a question
[12:04:19] <CNC> can anyone help me
[12:04:23] <CNC> ?
[12:04:23] <archivist> ask
[12:05:11] <CNC> how to configure 3 servos in EMC2 with using parallel port
[12:06:15] <archivist> note a servo needs an analog voltage to drive it
[12:06:38] <archivist> therefore you need PWM signals
[12:06:56] <CNC> PWM + +Dircetion
[12:09:01] <archivist> and inputs that can count the encoders at the maximum speed they will run at
[12:11:07] <archivist> you could build your own PWM to dc signal drivers or even build your own servo amplifiers
[12:20:58] <CNC> i have in one servo 4 pins (PWM, DIR, Encoder A, Encoder B)
[12:21:23] <CNC> how to configure 3 servos?
[12:22:05] <archivist> would be very easy with a mesa card
[12:22:52] <archivist> it has hardware counting so can work at high speeds
[12:23:34] <CNC> i have a board building Microcontroller Interface
[12:24:24] <CNC> i want to configure my card with EMC2
[12:25:17] <archivist> I dont think you realise the data rates and realtime need of servo control
[12:27:11] <CNC> my card use same principe of L298
[12:27:37] <CNC> I don't have a problem with card
[12:32:36] <CNC> in configuration of L298, we can configure 2 servos
[12:33:03] <CNC> how to add third servo
[12:33:30] <archivist> another chip
[12:34:42] <CNC> can you send me file's HAL
[12:34:44] <CNC> ?
[12:35:28] <CNC> can you send me files needed
[12:35:50] <archivist> you need to work out your needs
[12:37:16] <CNC> I don't undersand??
[12:37:24] <archivist> and whether what you(L298) have can drive your motors
[12:38:24] <CNC> I can drive 2 motors
[12:39:09] <CNC> the problem in using 3 motors
[12:39:35] <archivist> get another chip
[12:39:57] <CNC> chip??
[12:40:07] <archivist> L298
[12:40:44] <archivist> you used thaT PART NUMBER ABOVE
[13:45:03] <mib_8zxjlz> mib_8zxjlz is now known as skunkworks_
[13:46:16] <skunkworks_> hello?
[13:46:24] <skunkworks_> ah - is working :)
[13:46:37] <skunkworks_> logger_emc: bookmark
[13:46:37] <skunkworks_> Just this once .. here's the log:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2008-12-15.txt
[13:46:51] <skunkworks_> heh - linuxcnc.org is down
[13:47:27] <archivist> werks for me
[13:48:59] <skunkworks_> odd
[13:50:18] <skunkworks_> now it is working
[13:51:26] <skunkworks_> or not
[14:01:07] <jepler> skunkworks_: it was slow for me earlier too
[14:03:54] <skunkworks_> yah - I am getting joomla page saying the site is temporarily unavailable.
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