#emc | Logs for 2008-12-02

[00:26:20] <JymmmEMC> Hey how is newegg for buying/returning/exchanging?
[00:28:50] <BigJohnT> never had to return/exchange anything I purchased at newegg
[00:29:25] <jepler> I got a case with a bad psu in it from them. they wouldn't replace just the psu, and I didn't care to pay for shipping the whole case back to them, so I said "fuck it".
[00:30:34] <JymmmEMC> jepler: they wouldn't pay for return shipping?
[00:31:04] <jepler> * jepler tries to remember
[00:31:08] <jepler> I'm not sure now
[00:31:19] <jepler> maybe I'm mistaken about tht
[00:31:39] <jepler> at the point that I wanted to do the rma, I had all the components in the case (including a borrowed psu) and didn't want to take it all out to return it
[00:31:46] <jepler> it's been two years, gimme a break :-P
[00:31:56] <JymmmEMC> I never said anything! LOL
[00:32:07] <JymmmEMC> I was jsut curious is all =)
[00:32:29] <jepler> heh
[00:32:38] <JymmmEMC> I NEVER buy anything amil order (except ebay), but they even beat ebay price on a NAS box right now.
[00:32:50] <jepler> well just for you I looked back into my old e-mail. It doesn't look like shipping was the issue, just my wanting to only return part of the item
[00:33:25] <JymmmEMC> The whole it's already build damnit and I'm not gonna do this all over agian over a damn $40 PS
[00:33:35] <jepler> exactly!
[00:34:03] <BigJohnT> * BigJohnT goes to process some deer meat
[00:34:10] <jepler> in principle I could have tried the manufacturer for a psu replacement but I was too lazy to and I imagine the warranty is expired by now
[00:34:11] <BigJohnT> talk to you guys later
[00:34:27] <JymmmEMC> heh
[00:34:31] <jepler> see you bi
[00:34:44] <jepler> BigJohnT
[00:34:50] <jepler> * jepler grumbles at his irc client
[00:34:52] <JymmmEMC> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822102004
[00:35:42] <JymmmEMC> Ok, it's not the fastest thing in the world when it rebuilds, but it's all in a single tiny cube, and there are hacks to get sshd on it
[00:36:06] <JymmmEMC> 5 drives, RAID6
[00:37:27] <jepler> * jepler wonders why it has 5 drive bays and 5 SATA II c onnectors but only 4 HDD power and activvity LEDs
[00:37:33] <jepler> oh well, some things man was not meant to know
[00:37:34] <jepler> bbl
[00:37:39] <JymmmEMC> where you see that?
[00:38:25] <JymmmEMC> jepler: Oh, those are just power, and system status. Each drive on the left side has two leds
[00:38:40] <jepler> JymmmEMC: in the specifications tab
[00:38:44] <JymmmEMC> so it's 14 LEDS + the 1x16 LCD display
[00:38:49] <jepler> LEDs: ... "4 x HDD power" ...
[00:39:04] <JymmmEMC> I had one of these in my hands for a couple of days
[00:39:18] <JymmmEMC> took the whole thing apart
[00:40:00] <JymmmEMC> made 4+1 hot spare then yanked a drive =) Tossed the drive back in and it started rebuilding the RAID
[00:41:01] <JymmmEMC> jepler: http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/Thecus_5200Pro/5200pro13.jpg
[00:41:26] <jepler> so the description is wrong and there are 5 HDD power LEDs?
[00:41:47] <jepler> seems to me that would make sense for a 5-drive raid enclosure
[00:42:02] <JymmmEMC> http://www.armari.com/images/991H.jpg
[00:44:37] <jepler> oh looks like you can install ssh on it: http://www.onbeat.dk/thecus/index.php/N5200_Module:_SSHD
[00:45:02] <JymmmEMC> Yep, they have all kinds of module add-ons
[00:45:11] <jepler> (nowadays I prefer sshfs for remote filesystem access instead of nfs)
[00:45:23] <jepler> anyway, bbl
[00:45:26] <JymmmEMC> it has iSCSI =)
[00:45:37] <jepler> that won't help me when I'm on wifi
[00:45:58] <JymmmEMC> I think it accepts a wifi USB stick too
[00:47:36] <dmess> who knows hou to set a usb port to full power in order to charge a blackberry device??
[00:47:40] <dmess> how
[00:47:51] <JymmmEMC> dmess: you install the BB drivers
[00:48:04] <dmess> there are no linux drivers
[00:48:47] <dmess> a few progect in the works .. but all wip
[00:48:49] <JymmmEMC> dmess: google... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190938
[00:49:17] <JymmmEMC> dmess: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=648040
[00:50:30] <dmess> YOU THE MAN..." again "... ;)
[00:50:43] <JymmmEMC> thank google, first hit
[00:52:16] <dmess> oh why give them credit... ; )
[00:52:29] <JymmmEMC> I'm just the messenger
[00:52:55] <dmess> yes ive been that before and been shot at alot too
[00:53:35] <JymmmEMC> But I shoot back!
[00:54:24] <dmess> me too... and i still have places for the b@#ies
[00:55:22] <dmess> are there any Moose where you are
[00:55:54] <JymmmEMC> Only stuffed with a HU-MON instead
[00:56:07] <dmess> send me an email at mes_for_fun@yahoo.com i have some thing for you to see
[01:11:56] <JymmmEMC> dmess: http://tinyurl.com/5fjkcw
[01:28:43] <dmess> sweet how'd you do that...LOL
[01:31:04] <JymmmEMC> dmess: http://tinyurl.com/6rm9kj
[01:32:04] <dmess> get it right I'm a gummba not goober
[01:32:15] <JymmmEMC> lol
[01:32:41] <JymmmEMC> just go to the main site
[01:33:03] <dmess> yhat what we always called my sons as they grew up pullin' bonehead moves
[01:33:40] <dmess> it just grew on me... ;)
[03:19:43] <mdynac> whats up people...
[03:22:38] <dmess> my 14 yr old son just recieved his Ubuntu 8.10 cd from the Netherlands..... he wanted the original... go figure
[03:23:11] <mdynac> might be a collectors item someday....
[03:23:59] <mdynac> they do make good coasters
[03:25:11] <dmess> i have too many of those... i started buying cdrw's when they were thousands of dollar's
[03:25:59] <dmess> it'll be in the boys album im sure
[03:29:01] <dmess> the fact that my IP printer may work with his machine.. is a bonus
[03:29:27] <mdynac> shouldn't be a problem
[03:30:15] <dmess> my 6.XX sees it but it just dont come out
[03:30:25] <mdynac> hmmmm
[03:30:48] <mdynac> i run Slackware 1.1 here, i love it....
[03:30:52] <dmess> unds up lookin paused
[03:30:56] <mdynac> 12.1
[03:31:35] <dmess> i wanna run a lathe on here too so EMC2 is a necessity
[03:32:11] <mdynac> i have emc on 2 other machines
[03:32:50] <dmess> and this box has been stble for quite some time other than MY 6 month brainfart
[03:33:55] <dmess> im not the biggest on compiling stuff
[03:34:04] <mdynac> i c
[03:34:34] <mdynac> i have a debian etch box but the recent updates borked it royally....
[03:34:37] <dmess> im an APT programmer.../ cam programmer
[03:35:18] <mdynac> have you tried qcad and cam expert???
[03:35:20] <dmess> g-codes -r-us
[03:35:33] <dmess> cam expert??
[03:35:44] <dmess> open source??
[03:35:47] <mdynac> i use a text editor to write gcode.....
[03:36:06] <dmess> have you see VAPT??
[03:36:07] <mdynac> its made by ribbonsoft not open source....
[03:36:52] <mdynac> i am a component level electronic tech, i just happen to work exclusively on edm
[03:37:12] <dmess> use a text editor to program a 5 axis machine over 3-d geometry
[03:37:25] <mdynac> i repair, modify, update most of the electronics on these machines
[03:37:34] <dmess> hmm EDM
[03:37:42] <dmess> wire or sink??
[03:37:43] <mdynac> i usually cut squares and circles!!!!
[03:37:45] <mdynac> both
[03:37:51] <mdynac> hole poppers also
[03:37:56] <dmess> so have i
[03:38:15] <mdynac> i only write simple stuff to test with....
[03:38:18] <dmess> what machine?
[03:38:37] <mdynac> ANY edm
[03:39:29] <mdynac> mits, sodick, japax, charmilles, fanuc, brother, chmer, handsvedt, you name it
[03:40:17] <mdynac> i subcontract for EDM Network
[03:41:26] <mdynac> i'm actually a radar tech, but i fell into this 15 years ago by accident, i found no one in the business doing board level repair on these machines....
[03:41:49] <mdynac> its all "stop and swap"
[03:42:09] <mdynac> at 2-5k per board it gets expensive...
[03:43:54] <dmess> we had quite a few chrer at 1 place... i was in
[03:44:02] <mdynac> i successfully did an Andrew wire edm with emc2 about 3 years ago
[03:44:19] <dmess> really... and pwm??
[03:44:22] <mdynac> chmer = haas of edm
[03:44:31] <dmess> si
[03:44:56] <mdynac> boatloads o atmel avr's in them....
[03:45:04] <dmess> but sunk us a few million worth of molds
[03:45:43] <mdynac> which model? (i'll tell you what went wrong with them!!!)
[03:46:53] <mdynac> i never said they werea bad machine...
[03:47:37] <dmess> we had a fe.. i dont remember the full CNC was a sweet machine the 6 months it worked.. then went down for 1-2 months... then someone would get it running again
[03:48:38] <dmess> work for 6-10 mo and then loos its 486 brain again
[03:48:43] <mdynac> pwm77 ???? what is that
[03:49:23] <dmess> spark power with emc...
[03:49:44] <mdynac> the andrew has a manual generator
[03:50:24] <dmess> and what regulated or bounced it?
[03:50:48] <mdynac> like any other wire edm, the gap voltage
[04:16:43] <mdynac> ?
[05:10:31] <notranc> 6lbj
[11:18:11] <F151A> ar there any way to program FPGA to be Bus Controller
[11:18:50] <F151A> i know mesa did this already
[11:19:35] <archivist> first define what bus!
[11:21:16] <F151A> pci bus
[11:21:57] <F151A> some says...pci did not do realtime, but as far as i know, mesa connected to PCI-bus ...
[11:22:42] <F151A> it has something to do with 'quartus II' and'xillinx' stuff
[11:22:45] <archivist> google the FPGA makers for examples
[11:23:24] <F151A> i already do it, but... kind of im in the forrest
[11:24:02] <F151A> just perhaps any one would have 'some' clue on it... me to start with
[11:25:26] <F151A> im droping to the juggle of google
[11:27:26] <F151A> thnx in advance ...in case im forgoting this words
[11:28:37] <F151A> (every thing all of u, says, is important to me)
[11:29:02] <archivist> you have to decide what you are doing/trying do do, in order to search sensibly (I dont know what you are doing)
[11:29:36] <alex_joni> * alex_joni agrees
[11:41:30] <F151A> :) im trying to revive ISA-BUS era on modern-easy-tofind-pc-already-have-one
[11:41:49] <F151A> to have realtime data aquire
[11:43:06] <F151A> without to much mesa-card ...cos i already depent on mesa
[11:44:21] <F151A> mesa mean= long term delivery package
[11:44:34] <F151A> :) just thats
[11:44:42] <F151A> for now
[11:45:14] <F151A> ok, imagine medical equipment
[11:45:43] <F151A> has automatic machinary
[11:49:15] <archivist> if medical equipment fails, the suppliers get sued
[11:49:35] <F151A> no pain no game
[11:49:59] <Paragon> Hello All...
[11:50:10] <F151A> cnc fail, blow up the whole factory, we also get sue
[11:50:31] <F151A> hallo Mr.Paragon
[11:50:40] <F151A> :)
[11:53:42] <Paragon> As some of you maybe aware a purchased an old Beaver mill recently. On further inspection I have noticed there is a hair line crack along the rear t-slot about 2.5 to 3 inches long :-( My concern is that it will break if I need to clamp in that area. What can be done to fix an issue such as this. I know it's difficult to advise without viewing the table but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
[11:56:37] <F151A> could it be able weld?...
[11:56:57] <F151A> have to go
[11:57:02] <F151A> thnx
[11:57:05] <F151A> to all
[11:59:19] <archivist> there are cast iron repair people around, else get money back
[12:00:11] <archivist> from people who stitch to proper cast iron welders
[12:02:23] <archivist> and two methods of welding, stick with nickel rods (less good), and gas with item red hot (best) but that will require refinishing slides
[12:03:03] <archivist> Ive seen the result of the gas welded and its good
[12:03:25] <archivist> not cheap either
[12:03:47] <archivist> cheaper to get another milling machine
[12:04:21] <Paragon> archivist: Sorry i just got dragged away for a moment.
[12:05:51] <Paragon> archivist: 'cheaper to get another milling machine' Don't say that ;-)
[12:06:37] <archivist> else mill chunk out, make fitted chunk
[12:08:20] <archivist> was the price right because of the crack or is it of merchantable quality
[12:09:14] <Paragon> That could be an option but I am not too sure if I have enough surface to be able to get a good fixture. The table also has a small number dings not surprising due to it's age 55+ Years. I was thinking of using some metal putty to clean them up.
[12:10:06] <archivist> sound like its had a hard life
[12:10:21] <Paragon> I never notciced the crack until I had purchased it and acepted delivery.
[12:11:59] <Paragon> Other than the above the machine is in good condition overall. Spindle runs true and quiet and the ways are in good order.
[12:13:09] <archivist> other option, live with errors
[12:14:56] <Paragon> archivist: Your probably right. the machine is to be used for hobby and recreation so it should have an easy life in it's retirement :-)
[13:54:20] <Guest931> Guest931 is now known as skunkworks_
[14:03:34] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[14:07:40] <alex_joni> hi
[18:52:09] <jymm> hola
[18:53:47] <alex_joni> hi
[18:54:18] <jymm> how goes?
[18:57:29] <alex_joni> pretty good
[19:51:16] <toastatwork> ffff
[19:52:29] <jymm> ff
[19:54:14] <jepler> ffs
[19:59:15] <fenn> jepler: does this work for you? git-clone git://git.unpy.net/offs.git
[20:00:06] <fenn> i get git.unpy.net[0:]: errno=Connection refused
[20:02:16] <jepler> o rly
[20:02:21] <jepler> looks like it's my fault
[20:02:35] <jepler> git-daemon didn't restart with the system
[20:02:48] <jymm> jepler: I thought that was SOP ?
[20:03:02] <jepler> I'll have it sorted out in a few minutes
[20:03:58] <jymm> jepler: "Are ya done yet?
[20:03:59] <jymm> jepler: "Are ya done yet?
[20:04:00] <jymm> jepler: "Are ya done yet?
[20:05:14] <jepler> fenn: OK, make that ten minutes
[20:05:37] <jymm> * jymm hands jepler a brewski
[20:10:42] <BigJohnT> jymm make mine an ale
[20:11:05] <jepler> fenn: try it now
[20:11:16] <archivist> * archivist fancies two fried eggs, chips and beans
[20:11:26] <jepler> archivist: mmmm sign me up
[20:11:30] <jepler> (can I have a beer with it too?)
[20:11:46] <skunkworks_> archivist: I don't think it is 'making'
[20:11:58] <jepler> fenn: and thanks for letting me know about the problem
[20:12:26] <fenn> jepler: works now, thanks for fixing :)
[20:13:11] <jymm> * jymm hands BigJohnT a Budweiser American ALE (you're this weeks guinnie pig)
[20:15:24] <archivist> skunkworks, version 17?
[20:19:09] <BigJohnT> jymm I prefer a Hefiweisen...
[20:20:34] <BigJohnT> or a Kolsch or a Witbier
[20:21:32] <jymm> BigJohnT: sounds more like something I'd toss on the bbq
[20:22:28] <SWPadnos> ohh hmm. I should go support my local coffee shop
[20:24:00] <jymm> SWPadnos: as long as it's not StarSucks
[20:24:06] <SWPadnos> no, local
[20:24:20] <jymm> SWPadnos: Yeah, on every corner
[20:24:32] <SWPadnos> their building is about to be bought and torn down by CVS, since we obviously need a new giant pharmacy more than a coffee shop
[20:24:41] <jymm> ... and across the street from each other too
[20:24:45] <SWPadnos> (and other local businesses)
[20:25:00] <jymm> SWPadnos: ah, so no walmart wanted huh?
[20:25:08] <SWPadnos> not here. there are only 4 in the county, and they're all less than 5 years old (maybe <3)
[20:25:20] <jymm> ah
[20:25:34] <jymm> I'd wish they'ld build a Super WalMart near me
[20:25:53] <SWPadnos> we have a WalMart a few miles away, plus two large chain pharmacies, plus a large pharmacy in every large grocery store (and some small ones) - maybe 12 or so within 3 miles
[20:26:26] <SWPadnos> oh well. time to donate a little moolah to the soon-to-be-ex proprietors. bbl
[20:26:36] <jymm> hasta
[20:39:48] <archivist> skunkworks_ is your running yet?
[20:41:05] <alex_joni> good night all
[20:41:14] <seb_kuzminsky> seeya alex
[20:41:24] <alex_joni> see ya seb
[20:45:03] <archivist> skunkworks_ seems to have built and run its tests here
[20:45:11] <skunkworks_> hold on
[20:45:23] <skunkworks_> it actually ended the make finally
[20:45:28] <skunkworks_> (slow computer)
[20:45:43] <archivist> * archivist hugs the fast boxen
[20:53:28] <fenn> jymm: what's wrong with mail order?
[21:08:55] <skunkworks_> archivist: what did you build it on?
[21:08:58] <skunkworks_> os?
[21:09:07] <archivist> ubuntu
[21:09:11] <skunkworks_> darn
[21:09:12] <skunkworks_> :)
[21:09:31] <archivist> Linux hp 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:09:42] <skunkworks_> now my battery is dead. Might have to take this up tomorrow
[21:10:51] <jepler> skunkworks_, archivist: what are you guys working on?
[21:11:09] <archivist> playing with ngspice
[21:11:18] <jepler> ah
[21:17:56] <archivist> toys but too costly for me http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=330289561756
[22:44:25] <fenn_> fenn_ is now known as fenn