#emc | Logs for 2008-11-28

[00:59:30] <JymmmEMC> I got those $5 turkeys one year and deep fried like 5 of them... 35minutes each
[01:00:05] <JymmmEMC> Hey, the oil is already hot; kept trying to find other things to deep fry too!
[01:07:59] <cradek> I did a similar thing too, but I was dipping stuff in chocolate
[01:08:12] <cradek> which I heartily recommend
[01:08:34] <JymmmEMC> We found that red potatoes are the BEST THING EVER to deep fry in peanut oil!
[01:08:53] <JymmmEMC> The best fried potatoes I've ever had in my life
[01:09:12] <JymmmEMC> sprinkle with a lil seasoning salt afterwards
[01:09:39] <JymmmEMC> cradek: I'm a slat over sweet kinda guy
[01:09:43] <JymmmEMC> salt
[01:11:07] <JymmmEMC> Hey, i have shared samba folders on this box, but there's no SYSTEM > ADMIN > SHARED FOLDERS menu option, any ideas?
[01:11:36] <dmess> has EMC2 been hooked up to a REAL japanese macine yet?
[01:12:39] <dmess> bcz im lookin' at doing a demo... but i dont want to over-sell
[01:12:55] <cradek> dmess: have you retrofitted a machine with EMC2 yet?
[01:13:58] <dmess> no but 1 an OKK is going to junk... i need a fighting chance to save her
[01:14:29] <dmess> its a 6M
[01:14:46] <dmess> dual pallet workhourse
[01:16:55] <dmess> what kinda PC card could and would handle it all or in pieces
[01:17:41] <cradek> that's too open a question to answer. without knowing what kind of IO it has/needs and what kind of drives, whether it has encoders or resolvers, etc etc.
[01:17:44] <dmess> the 6m is a full colour monitor...
[01:18:38] <dmess> servo... fanuc... encoders..
[01:18:45] <cradek> I meant to (very gently) suggest that if it's your first retrofit, and it's complex, the limitation will probably not be EMC2, but will be your own learning curve and/or skills
[01:19:16] <dmess> not MY 1st retro
[01:19:25] <cradek> I meant first with EMC2
[01:19:30] <cradek> brb
[01:19:32] <dmess> 1st with EMC yes
[01:20:12] <dmess> or 2nd it the hardinge beats it
[01:21:42] <dmess> EMC (3-4 yrs )is new to me not rebuilding or making machines work
[01:26:44] <dmess> i'd semi love ripping the fanuc brain out and add EMC
[01:28:10] <dmess> the fanuc handles a lot of probing macros that are all CUSTOM made.. ;(
[02:23:44] <toastydeath> i kind of think that fanuc macros must be what asm programmers feel like
[02:23:56] <toastydeath> anytime i use any macro stuff on a control and it works I just cackle
[02:24:05] <toastydeath> v. frankenstein-ish
[04:33:04] <renesis> toastydeath: gcode is totally like asm for kids
[04:33:30] <renesis> i learned gcode and core programming the same semester
[04:35:12] <renesis> i think really the only hard part of gcoding was figuring out what for of retarded the diamater comp entry was
[04:35:27] <renesis> *form of retarded
[04:54:54] <toastydeath> renesis: i'm not talking g-code
[04:54:58] <toastydeath> i'm talking g-code macro
[04:55:04] <toastydeath> g65
[04:55:28] <renesis> what syntax is it
[04:55:43] <toastydeath> G65 H** P#xxx Q#xxx R#xxx
[04:56:02] <toastydeath> the H word defines the operation (definition, addition, subtraction, etc), there's about 30-40 of these
[04:56:02] <renesis> oh so its varable coding?
[04:56:09] <toastydeath> and then P/Q/R are the arguements
[04:56:10] <toastydeath> yeah
[04:56:39] <renesis> yeh thats more like mnemonic asm
[04:56:42] <toastydeath> like like G65 H28 P#101 R#102 R100
[04:56:57] <toastydeath> is like saying "if #101 is greater than #102, goto 100"
[04:57:06] <toastydeath> i think it's 28 anyway, it's up there somewhere
[04:57:39] <renesis> <3 asm
[04:57:42] <toastydeath> lol
[04:58:10] <renesis> really, if you need silly words like if, then else, while, etc, to do conditionals, gtfo
[04:58:18] <renesis> !
[04:59:11] <renesis> but yeh i gotta find a project to practice c more
[04:59:19] <renesis> asm on an arm is just torture
[04:59:39] <renesis> they got mad creative with the extra like 26 bits in the opcode words
[05:00:22] <renesis> like, yeh fuck conditional opcode well just make them flagat the end of the opcode word =( =( =(
[05:00:49] <renesis> then there is this silly shit with the immediate values
[05:01:37] <renesis> you dont get another 32b word in one case, you get a section of the opcode as the value, then another section is how much to shift the value
[05:02:08] <renesis> so you can make tons of values, except valid ones are kinda random after the first shift =(
[05:26:58] <toastydeath> renesis: i have never, ever played with asm
[05:27:08] <toastydeath> i have just looked at some code and decided, "hey, that looks difficult"
[05:41:44] <renesis> you just have to learn the opcodes
[05:41:49] <renesis> then its ridiculous simple
[05:42:12] <renesis> and with macro and call based coding, you can make the top level code way easier to read than c
[05:42:32] <renesis> basically like a plain text list of tasks seperated by linebreaks
[05:43:07] <renesis> its def worth learning if you fuck with 8bit platforms
[05:43:30] <renesis> at that level, c compilers like to add alot of bullshit code to cover its ass in all situations
[05:43:32] <toastydeath> i don't
[05:43:35] <toastydeath> i'm a homeless machinist
[05:43:41] <toastydeath> well, not homeless at all
[05:43:50] <toastydeath> but i don't mess with electronics or anything that would have an 8 bit proc
[05:43:52] <renesis> yeh pob not a big deal for you, heh
[05:44:32] <renesis> but yeh, if you fuck with board level digital design
[05:44:51] <renesis> its like having a computer from 1990 on a chip for $1
[05:45:08] <renesis> with better architecture
[05:45:21] <renesis> i dont really have any desire to learn x86 asm
[09:07:27] <anonimasu> hello
[09:10:05] <alex_joni> hi
[09:14:09] <anonimasu> what'
[09:14:11] <anonimasu> 's up?
[09:14:35] <anonimasu> I'm writing a program to machine a spindle mount for a mill
[09:17:26] <alex_joni> cool, doing various things :)
[09:17:35] <alex_joni> not really sure myself what
[09:20:01] <anonimasu> http://imagebin.org/32353
[09:20:46] <anonimasu> it's missing a few holes and stuff :)
[09:44:21] <alex_joni> yay alibre :P
[10:40:22] <anonimasu> programmed and all now ^_^
[10:41:54] <fragalot> www.omploader.org/veXZ1 Well,... that's not good....
[10:42:53] <archivist> what nut runs gentoo
[10:43:38] <fragalot> me?
[10:44:56] <anonimasu> heh
[10:45:50] <archivist> spending your days wasting time waiting for compiles
[10:47:14] <fragalot> archivist: it's not as bad as it's made out to be
[10:47:30] <fragalot> you just run the updates in the background on low priority
[10:47:51] <archivist> but but but my system is a nonosecond a week faster than yours.....
[10:48:29] <fragalot> I don't care about the speed part
[10:48:45] <fragalot> the community is great, and so is the system, as it forces you to know what you are doing, unlike ubuntu
[10:48:46] <archivist> what then
[10:49:37] <archivist> I still see a lot of support issues from gentoo users a few chans
[10:50:15] <fragalot> haven't had much issues about that, currently got a whole group of people looking at my kernel issue
[10:53:00] <fragalot> it's just, in Gentoo, if you don't know what you are doing and how the system works, you can't even get it to install, which weeds out a lot of the "help, my computer froze but i'm not going to give any details about it as it doesn't concern you" people
[10:53:51] <archivist> just had one of those in #mysql
[10:55:11] <fragalot> just had somebody in ##kernel saying "hi, iSCSI does not work. Maybe it has to do with kernel?" and then went afk
[10:56:13] <alex_joni> lol
[10:56:43] <alex_joni> * alex_joni swallows a remark about the emc users list
[10:57:26] <archivist> hehe
[10:57:34] <alex_joni> fragalot: I thought ubuntu was supposed to be orange
[10:57:36] <alex_joni> not gentoo
[10:58:01] <alex_joni> archivist: that didn't amuse my stomach
[10:58:55] <fragalot> alex_joni: hmm?
[11:00:15] <alex_joni> fragalot: your laptop colour
[11:00:59] <fragalot> alex_joni: it's white
[11:01:06] <fragalot> alex_joni: it's the lighting that made it look orange on camera
[11:01:34] <fragalot> well, it's more of a really light grayish beige i guess.. meh
[11:02:23] <fragalot> bbl, soup
[11:02:54] <alex_joni> white?
[11:03:26] <archivist> cream, or standard peecee colour
[11:03:51] <fragalot> Acer 5920 make it out for yourself :p
[11:04:05] <fragalot> now, bbl
[11:13:21] <fragalot> back
[11:25:26] <fragalot> Well, just downloaded all the sources, figured out that the culprit for the dump is iwlwifi, thus, disabling wifi and going to school. Cya
[15:37:32] <archivist> * archivist nearly falls off his chair at the list question "What is the maximum voltage that the paralel port can handle" he wants to measure up to 1000v
[15:38:39] <JymmmEMC> no problem
[15:38:47] <JymmmEMC> you'll measure ONCE
[15:39:11] <JymmmEMC> Yep, the voltage supplied was greater than 12V
[15:39:34] <JymmmEMC> SNAP-CRACKLE-POP
[15:39:46] <archivist> no the computer wont give you an answer... its dead jim
[15:40:17] <JymmmEMC> archivist: Oh it'll give an answer, just the answer will let out the magic smoke as an indicator, no power required
[16:08:39] <alex_joni> http://www.graphpaper.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/bmwbike.jpg
[16:11:13] <archivist> nuts, would take too long to make on a 5 axis cnc
[16:11:34] <alex_joni> reprap ftw
[16:11:38] <archivist> and its a bit fugly
[16:11:50] <cradek> ugh
[16:11:56] <alex_joni> lol @ cradek
[16:12:00] <fenn> how does it steer?
[16:12:13] <cradek> that's a secondary concern
[16:12:20] <alex_joni> it's too cool to steer :D
[16:12:21] <archivist> in the hub
[16:12:25] <alex_joni> but I assume some servo
[16:12:51] <cradek> I don't think form followed function in this design
[16:13:20] <alex_joni> I think it was a no following desing :D
[16:13:52] <archivist> frame flexing is suspension (and failure mode)
[18:44:52] <archivist> are the serial ports disabled by EMC
[18:45:47] <SWPadnos> no
[18:46:30] <archivist> ok trying to get the touch screen working later tonight
[19:33:12] <alex_joni> s/n/u/
[21:34:36] <dmess> hi al
[21:34:39] <dmess> all
[21:39:22] <eric_u1> oh yeah?
[21:46:49] <fragalot> no.
[21:46:56] <eric_u1> that's what I thought
[21:47:47] <fragalot> I just got a cingular 8125 from a friend
[21:48:14] <fragalot> and I have pretty much every type of USB cable in a box... EXCEPT the one I need for this phone :(
[21:48:18] <eric_u1> dunno what that is
[21:48:26] <fragalot> eric_u1: Smartphone/PDA
[21:48:49] <eric_u1> is it a mini-usb?
[21:49:37] <fragalot> one of the many different types, yes
[21:49:47] <eric_u1> I thought there were only 2
[21:49:49] <fragalot> like a squashed USB-B connector
[21:50:16] <fragalot> eric_u1: oh no, I have atleast 3 in my box, this is yet another type
[21:50:29] <fragalot> and no, it's not one designed by cingular
[22:19:22] <eric_u1> it's always strange to see yourself leave the room
[22:22:26] <archivist> you can use the ghost command to kick loose connections
[22:22:52] <eric_u1> that would require me to remember a command
[22:23:23] <archivist> /help
[22:23:48] <archivist> /help ghost
[22:24:33] <eric_u1> using help would require me to remember a command. Do you see where this is going?
[22:30:12] <dmes1> DOH