self assembleing trojan horse?
Anyone have a 9V battery that puts out 10V by chance?
BlackMoon: But you have a laytex fetish, so you don't count!
battery potential is limited by chemical makeup and has a very narrow tollerance
why do you need 10v
and 9v's are just 6 1.5v cells
eric_u: cuz 9v aint enough?
I ask because lipos put out 11.4
12.6 at full charge
for 3 cells
as in Li-Poly's?
you abbreviate your way, I'll abbreviate the way the rest of us abbreviate
does it have a 9v battery clip?
I think the a123 cells will get you closer to 10v
lipos have the advantage that you can get them in a lot of different sizes
and put your own battery clip on there
9v bat has the advantage of $0.12 battery clip =)
yeah, but they don't put out 10v
enjoy recharging that.
... and why is 10v 'needed'
might be a problem for some people
you do know battery voltage falls majorly with discharge/load anyway
you can charge a123 with a voltmeter and a 12v supply
... and wtf is a a123?
button cell battery
brand of lefeo4
a123 is the battery that's going into the chevy volt given that car has a future
quick charge rate, high discharge rate relative to other chemistry
SWPadnos: You placing a digikey order any time soon?
JymmmEMC, I don't have specific plans at the moment, but there probably will be one in the next few weeks
SWPadnos: Ok, nm =)
@$%#$@#$ cheap lazy suzy's don't use ball bearings :(
Hello! I need help with parallel port pci card installation. I have looked through the Wiki here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?NetMos
but am still confused.. lspci -v lists Communication controller: NetMos Technology with I/O ports from cf00 to ca00. Is this really plug and play? Do I only have to specify loadrt hal_parport cfg="0xcd00" and the read and write functions? Thank you!
The symptoms include that I am not even able to toggle EStop
ok, never mind
sorry. figured it out on my own
the problem was the cfg="0xcd00"
^^^ Proof that the EMC Self-Help Program really works!
I try to run emc2.2.5 under ubuntu 8.04 and I get the error message:
emc/usr_intf/emcsh.cc 3813: can't connect to emc
Guest916: can you pastebin the complete error log?
the output from dmesg is also interesting
[11:02:28] <Guest916> http://pastebin.ca/1268525
hmm.. really odd
can you put the config dir somewhere?
I see you copied the sources from somewhere to your /home/sztaki/emc2.2.5 dir
did you compile with run-in-place?
another strange thing is that: /home/sztaki/emc2.2.5/scripts/realtime start runs, but there's no messages in dmesg
did you maybe configure for simulator?
what's the output from uname -a ?
I compiled it --run-in -place
the output for uname -a is:
Linux sztaki-desktop 2.6.24-16-rtai #1 Tue Sep 30 22:54:33 EEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
ok, so far all looks good
can you try to run 'scripts/realtime start' and see what happens?
are you sure you sent the right dmesg portion?
ok, I try
ok, started without error message
and look for rtapi
rtapi 33412 1 hal_lib rtai_math 22532 0 rtai_sem 22016 1 rtapi rtai_fifos 25760 1 rtapi rtai_sched 102160 3 rtapi,rtai_sem,rtai_fifos rtai_hal 38180 4 rtapi,rtai_sem,rtai_fifos,rtai_sched
rtapi is insmoded
ok, that looks ok
try scripts/realtime stop
to unload everything again
then try running one of the sim configs..
is it important wich sim I start?
because I have a motenc lite card
and I already changed the motenc.ini-file and the .hal files
I figured you have a motenc card..
can you put the motenc config dir somewhere?
where can I put it?
I will try to make an ftp connection
can you email it?
ftp doesn't work from here
does sim/tkemc run?
ok, I see your problem
currently you only have a reference to loadrt.hal from your ini file
but in the loadrt.hal you have everything commented out
(in the mean time I got the right loadrt.hal via email :)
try moving the loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT line up
just after loadrt trivkins
do you really need 5 encoder and 5 stepgen modules in addition to the motenc?
I also notice you have the .tbl file missing
I've got a issue :)
trying to figure out how to add a M code to the big mill
I want a g-code for mist/air cooling
or well, air to clear off chips :)
besides M8/M7 ?
oh, M07 isnt implemented
[13:20:49] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//gcode_main.html#sub:M7,-M8,-M9:
yes, I know
but, I dont have the M code in the control
ah, non-emc2 control?
* alex_joni blinks
if it were emc it wouldnt be a issue really
well.. convert it then
you will be assimilated!
heh, I'd rather have a newer heidenhain control then emc sorry :/
add code that would make emc nicer then
pay! you should work for the pleasure!
anyway replacing a working control that isnt old would be completely insane
pay the supplier for an upgrade to get the facility you want
archivist: working out how the plc works is fun too
archivist: I have the big tech book :p
I have a cheese roll
cradek: you around?
no, I'm sleeping in
LOL, I was at a buddies machine shop the other day and was watching him run his Anilam lathe and they have the coolest thing
I think it was G73 with a W1
you could define the profile and the amount to rough off and that was the W1 part
and the G73 defined the usual feeds, depth of cut etc.
took him about 2 minutes to lay out a profile with several componets then cut it
sounds neat - I wish we had something like that
you could have several profiles and call them with different W numbers from the same G73
if you want more info on it next time I'm over there I'll get some...
I don't know if it was G73, but I read about a roughing cycle where you'd give it arguments representing the N numbers of the start and end of the profile or something like that
like P123 Q234 means the profile you want roughed is from N123 to N234
that would be kind of like using O codes right
sort of, but it does a lot more than cut along the profile - it roughs out a region that's rectangular on the "outside" (+X, +Z) and the programmed profile on the "inside" (-X, -Z)
is that the kind of behavior you're talking about too?
it roughed out the profile in straight lines even if the profile was different diameters, not sure if it is the same
yeah that's what I'm thinking too
I wonder if all lathe controls have something like that - seems useful.
I don't know but I can ask him... he as several cnc lathes
I'll try and get a better discription of it for you.
let me whip out a drawing to show you what I saw
[14:19:43] <BigJohnT> http://imagebin.ca/view/QP7f_bT.html
the line with the circle and arrow was the lead in move
the rest of the plain lines were the profile
the last line with the arrow only was the amount of material to rough off
the horz lines are the rough cuts
ok so it would rough to the left - after each pass did it move out a bit and rapid back to the right?
the profile was saved as a W number to be used in the G73
I wonder if it could handle the harder case where X goes back in somewhere along the path - like think of a ball shape
he could pick from some standard shapes like horz lines, vert lines. angled lines. arcs etc
for that you could not cut it all with the left-cutting tool
I would bet that you just define two W's one for the left cutting tool and one for the right cutting tool
oh sure - neither one would be the full profile - you'd just figure out how much could be cut with each tool yourself.
the other neat thing the Anilam did was chamfer from the MPG
he hit a chamfer button and the X and Z moved at a 45 to the spindle
as he cranked the MPG back and forth
(you could do that in HAL)
then he hit the Z button and moved the tool a bit to the left and pressed the C button to chamfer a bit more
he had three buttons to select what the MPG controlled X, Z, and Chamfer
ok let's make a deal - I'll do the chamfer thing, you do the roughing cycle
the G73 roughed and finished
ok don't forget to have it finish too then
let see we need this for V2.6
no V2.6, it might take me a while to brush up on my C
I've gotta run - thanks BigJohnT for something to think about
ok see you later
any folks around at this hour?
got a consideration regarding an idea i've got
i guess at least some of you got some experience of real world cnc milling
my design idea looks like this, http://www.carmi.se/misterstarshine/img/sliders.png
wonder if those 'sliders' would be utterly difficult to mill in steel for example
not impossible, watch making quality work
made some futile experiments today
but i haven't even got a mill but tried to attach a small xy table to a drillpress
and tried with a 1mm drill that was deeply inserted into the chuck
drill press is far too sloppy for that sort of work
result was a mess and drilled snapped too
are there cutting tools down to 1mm diameter?
i believe high spindle speed is required then
and extremely slow feed
1 mm end mill is not too expensive
a good precision cnc mill is though
I use 2mm end mills here some times
missing from drawing is thickness and shape of connecting gusset
actually the gusset will be filed down by hand afterwards
and thickness should be around 2mm
and accuracy needed, because there is more than one way of making
eg squashed tube parted off and soldered in pairs
probably toasts any electronics he makes :)
similar to MagicSmoker then?
alex_joni: how hard would it be to add something so we could open a python file with a button on a pyVCP panel in AXIS?
like you do with file/open...
I must have a repair session one day and get some of my toys working again
archivist: when your done come on by and you can help be rebuild my tractor
not done much tractor work
me neither but it is not hard on the old ones
well try had cranking a single pot 20hp tractor
from what I've seen at the local harvest festival if you don't know what you are doing you can get your arm broken.
[17:45:00] <archivist> http://www.ytmag.com/articles/artint117.htm
evil toys to start
or it just won't start :/
mine is a late model with electrics :) and it is younger than me by a few years
yes it is a 1956 model
hmm younger than me too
the tractor? or what I want to do in AXIS?
archivist: here is a picture of what my tractor would look like if it had a new paint job http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9828/fergy_f40_dl.jpg
alex_joni: what I have in mind is if I could open up a g-code generator from a button on the pyVCP panel instead of doing a file/open... search for the python file thing
that would make it much easier to have g code generators at hand... something along the lines of what I was talking about with cradek this morning
archivist: this one is exactly like mine even painted the wrong color like mine http://www.tractorshed.com/gallery/tphotos/a2366.gif
dont quite look like the grey fergies over here
no, you guys have the TE 30's and such which is a slightly older tractor
fergyland is aboout 5 miles from here
the F-40's were only produced in 55 and 56 for usa only
BigJohnT: not sure I see the benefit for that
what would happen after you ran the g-code generator?
does it write a file? does it pipe to emc2?
can you do this while a program is running?
it pipes the output to emc2.
then by all means you probably need to run fil/open
the advantage is for off the cuff type of work where you program on the fly
or maybe hack into AXIS and override open file with open a certain predefined file
but I can't say how you could do that
I wasn't thinking along that line but rather some hal thingy that you could use
to do a file open with the proper path and name in the config somehow
can you do 'O100 call' from MDI yet?
I think you can on TRUNK
you can in trunk can't you
the use halui's mdi and you're done
would that open a python file?
cradek: BigJohnT wants to open a python program which (after human interaction) generates a program
I think of a user that does standard parts and file load is a pain, he needs certain operations feeding to him with questions
oh I probably misuderstood
archivist: check out gwiz
well ignore me then
cradek: along the lines of what we were talking about this morning
yeah file/open is the only way to open a 'filtered' thing
[18:03:53] <alex_joni> http://www.se-ltd.com/~lerman/gallery/v/G-Wiz/
if you could press a button on a pyVCP panel and open up the profile generator for a lathe and do your thing then send the output to AXIS it would be almost as sweet as the Anilam
alex_joni, when gear making its not just a wizard its also the machine settings
BigJohnT: if you can convince jepler it's usefull.. maybe he'll tell you how to do it
and a repeat after first cuts to get closer to size
I know jepler is against the idea of what I need
looks like the g wiz is the same as the g code generators I wrote and put on wiki
similar by the look of it
all we need is some slick way to open the g code generators from the tool bar or something
or gcode to ask questions :)
or open emc from the g-code generators
that's a good idea DanielFalck but I'm thinking you will have EMC open all ready 99% of the time
in the case of gear cutting archivist you could put in your parameters send the g code to AXIS do a test run... measure... open the gear program back up and change a paramater then generate the new code and run
BigJohnT, currently I shuffle the touch off and re run till to size
and set up is edit load loop a number of times
my gcode does all the rest of the looping needed
looks like it could be in the INI file and added to the menu when AXIS is started without much trouble :)
* BigJohnT wanders off to ponder the problem
it might be possible to open a pipe or other "special file", and tell axis to reload it with axis-remote (from an external program, which actually feeds the g-code to AXIS)
mr_boo: thoose would be trivial to make
unless they are 1mm big :p
mr_boo: though spindle speed will be the limit on how fast you can make them
Hi, im looking to use EMC2 to control a 6-8 axis robot
I have a few questions, is anyone online?
Need to be able to set all joints to accept angle values, is this possible?
also Im going to use two gecko 540s
What serial cards are recomended for use with ubuntu?
does anyone see any issues with runnin emc to control 8 axes? any setup tips? Any web pages that are recomended?
yep, I just noticed that
he didn't stick around long
I'm sure the answer to his question would have taken more than 2 minutes
dang there is a lot of code in axis.py
you haven't seen axis.tcl yet
where is that?
I'm sure you'll find it :P
ha it is only 2254 lines of code
after you finish with these I'll tell you about the other files :D
(luckily it's a loong weekend :D)
ok, I just added a User Menu to AXIS :)
ah, that's cheating :P
you need to do it from the pyvcp xml :)
I know it needs to based on the ini file
or from the pyvcp
well I need to get ready to deep fry a turkey
get some more hints lined up for me
ha.. the next hint will involve a nice fluffy bed :D
so how do you add a menu item with pyvcp xml?
fire extinguishers working? ;)
I have no idea :)
I'm drinking beer now in case of fire
jack_ is now known as giacus
hello dear emc hackers :)
what's up ?
how goes the fishing?
hi alex_joni :)
we are fihing :D
* alex_joni is going to bed ;)
have a fun ;)
giacus: will you be online the next few days? or is it a one time visit?
yeah, you too..
I think so
I should be around here
ok.. see you
good night all (and happy thanksgiving where it applies)
buonna notte :)
thank you alex_joni
BigJohnT_ is now known as BigJohnT
* giacus going to listen a great great song!!!!
try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQA4359xbkA
and let me know..
woahhh a guitar orgasm :D
Oh man... missed our italian friend
hey LawrenceG, Happy Thanksgiving
JymmmEMC, hey.... no gobble gobble here.... but I am thinking of gravy and a golden roasted bird
family next door is American... maybe I can score some leftovers!
come on down here LawrenceG you can eat deep fried turkey with us
cool.... can you email me a hot turkey sandwich PLEASE!!!!
BigJohnT, I have never tried df turkey... how long does it take to cook?
I have heard that the 25lbs of french fries cooked right after the turkey are awesum
45 minutes for a 12 pounder
got to go carve it now ttul