make sure it stays below 11200 and doesnt have 100ms spikes every 64 seconds or whatever
playing solitare glxgears and has the screensaver app on as well showing flying components, reached 11722
seeing no nasty spikes
loading more games pushed it to 13100
I do not understand something in c++ at all right now
fyi i do not understand ALOT of c++ right now...:)
by stating the problem, most likely you will see the solution
* archivist just understands the C part
or Fenn will
well, its related to classes, I have my class defined in my header, and then class functions in class.cpp. but for whatever ever reason main.cpp just will not accept it, but if I put all the functions into my .h file, everything is fine
likewise Arch... and have forgotten alot of that even
and when I sent my code to a friend with a linux box, it worked fine
with the 3 files
ahhh its a winBlows problem then... or not..
I dont know
they'll deny it... did you send a report off to m/sft
I want to say yes it is, but what ive been writting should work with .net or g++ ..
hahaha, ide rather ask my grandmother for support
but does IT work well in M/crap
gezar: does it work if you add function prototypes at the top of main.cpp?
I pulled the code functions out of the c file, and plopped them into the header and it works
Fenn is support.. I;m comic relief...
fenn, it does if I put them in the .h
no, prototypes in .cpp
here, mind if I paste to rafb.net/
not at all
no, were assigned to use .h .cpp, and then a main.cpp
header is http://rafb.net/p/GZgO8v74.html
heh gotta love that OOP stuff
class functions is http://rafb.net/p/miuia272.html
gezar: show the main.cpp too
dumped the entire file into this buffer, had to clear it out, main.cpp link comming
[00:34:29] <gezar> http://rafb.net/p/P7J3ue92.html
and are you compiling it correctly?
im sorry about the way
ie gpp main.cpp classes.cpp
that main is missing the main function, yeah, well, hmm
you know, I never thought about that
you need to have a #include "myheader.h"
hmm how do i download raw text from rafb
in the other cpp file..
anonimasu when I do that, it becomes bad
this may be an issue with compile directives, like your saying
let me try and re order the files in .net
are you coding .net?¤"#!Q
* fenn had to use .NET last night :(
c# or c++?
I like .net alot actually it works really well
(c# that is)
I dont know if it is compiling main or the cpp file firest..
it shoudlnt matter it's in the linking the fun stuff starts to happen anyway
they both should point to the header so it shouldnt matter
well, in the format that I pased to you guys it works
but the fact that you cant have your header in your mstuff.cpp is a issue
I just wont be satisfying the requirement to have the functions in a seperate cpp file...
oh, I remember..
your use of the header file and stuff are wrong..
you should stick your class into the header file and just #include it..
as it's just a container until you create a object with it..
well, originally, I had just the class in the header, then the fucntions in accounts.cpp,
the including "accounts.h" and accounts.cpp" in main
you should keep it in a .h, as you need to reference it ot be able to create the object..
thats what I have done now
does it work?
the way its pasted works
the class func file is commented out, and I added it to the end of the header, that doesnt meat the requirements however, but Im unable to see past it
uh, why dosent it meet the requirement?
no no no, don't put functions into header files, unless they're trivial inline functions (in the class definition itself)
SWPadnos: you missed that that's what he's doing
yeah, exactly SWPadnos, thats what is not working
I saw that, but you (anonimasu) said "you should stick your class into the header file and just #include it."
thats the only way, I can get it to compile as is
which I interpreted to mean "put the function implementations into the header"
which is wrong
you need to tell the IDE to link the two object files together
oh? how do I do that?
I'm assuming you're using some MS IDE (like VC++)
you probably need to create a project and add both "units" or whetever MS calls them to the project
the way I had it, works with g++
yes, g++ is smarter ;)
let me change it back, and check the error
c++.net is a blasphemy. c# is much nicer
actually, if you just compiled both cpp files, but didn't generate an executable, then g++ wasn't trying to link at all (and therefore didn't give you any errors)
c++.net is like c++ with random bits of c# stuck on top to cope with the framework issues
error C2653: 'Account' : is not a class or namespace name, let me try to build seperately
but if you compiled as someone suggested, with both cpp files on the same line, then gpp would be spart enough to use both object files in the link stage
gezar: hold on and I'll see if I remember how you do it in vs
on the same line?
btw, if you use the add class wizard it make both a cpp and a header file for yo
let click in the solution explorer and click add class
on the same line: <anonimasu>ie gpp main.cpp classes.cpp
where did you get that error? (on which cpp file)
and on what line
line 6 of the func file
oh, you need to include account.h in the account.cpp file as well
let me do that again and show the error
otherwise the compiler doesn't know the class definition
a tone of redefinitions
let me see if I can figure out
you shouldn't have the functions in the header, only the class definition
the header must be included in the class.cpp file, and all the functions should be there
I dont have them now, let me re paste
[00:51:51] <gezar> http://rafb.net/p/gWEaR634.html
there is the header, the the class.cpp file is just the functions, with an #include"accounts.h"
gezar: you are messing something up
you forgot to delete the Account::Account() function
I added a header file to my project
made a class and added inline void test(); into it
I have the deconstructor ~Accounts()
then I wrote my function in another file
this worked on a linux box, the proper way, It just wont compile in .net
if that file you just pasted is the header, then you forgot to remove the Account::Account() function
and you'll get "duplicate function definitions" if you didn't forget to uncomment it in the Account.cpp file :)
oh my, give me some time to re fix this
SWPadnos, some googling for a new toy I have and I came across your kiosk computer, have you put emc on it and tested the touch screen part
okay, if I have my .h, and my .cpp with an include to the .h, and then in main.cpp just including the .cpp same types of errors, if I include the .h in main as well, it over defines everything
it works fine, but I think the latencies aren't great for software step generation
it's also only 800x600, and the motherboard can't go much further (even if you can find a display to replace the one on it)
Im getting 13100 at the moment
I had it around 6000 before, but that was on an older 2.4 kernel based BDI
and 1200x1024 screen on mine
I think it's in the 16000 range now
gezar: as you are inlining your stuff into the class I dont think you should include it into your class.cpp
hmmm, must be a differnt computer
seems a usable toy though
I'd be surprised if you had a 12" 1280x1024 screen
P4 1.8 G
you'll be inlining the stuff into it anway on compile time.. so adding the header file to the file it's referencing gets funky ;)
SWPadnos: kiosk computer?
SWPadnos: do I have one?
mine is a celeron 500 with integrated video driving an 800x600 LCD with touchscreen
no CD-ROM, notr any place to put one
SWPadnos: Oh, that one, nm
no USB (but there's supposedly a 1.1 header)
it does have 4 serial and 2 parallel ports though, and 2 PCI slots
SWPadnos: I thought they were talking about the artigo
I have usb and cdrom 2pci and 4 serial
omg, Ive got it i think
ok, so not the same thing :)
look at panel pc
yeah ive got it
I have the industrial 19" mount one
which they dont have on the site
archivist: ah, ok
anonimasu : you were right, how it works the way it does Im yet to understand, but im 4 hours behind now, and things seem happy
SWPadnos: you know the DUBM thing they did to that artigo?
SWPadnos: No usb in the back if you install it in a 5.25" drive bay
this is great, just have a .h, the functions.c including the .h, and then main.c no including any thing
SWPadnos: the pico ITX
heh, right :)
nope, I have the main.c including the header as well, but now its working
the main.c needs to include the .h as well
* anonimasu yawns
so ive had contact with an adrionio board? they are pretty neat
goodnight anonimasu and thank you
glad to be of help ^_^
see you anonimasu
this is creepy I'm starting to enjoy phsyics problems like jymms :P
heh, they're fun aren't they
anonimasu: It's called thinking OUTSIDE the box =)
I'm soon finishing with my basic phsics course and the world's making alot more sense now ;)
err very soon I'll be finished with it
oh JymmmEMC, I scanned through that paper you linked
anonimasu: It's all relative and sucks =)
SWPadnos: jeeeees =)
* archivist stuffs JymmmEMC back in his box
note that they were shining 1W/cm^2 of UV on that stuff
uv is different from normal light too
SWPadnos: Ok, so I need 440 3ph with 100a main =)
that's 10x the amount of total energy in sunlight, and I'm not sure how many more times the amount of UV in sunlight
[01:11:43] <anonimasu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet
SWPadnos: I think to solve this I'm going to have to go organic
I just don't feel like going through the exercise of figuring out hwat amount of energy is in which parts of the spectrum :)
heh, could be
like cockroaches ;)
oh, it's calculated alread
SWPadnos: Like plant life
SWPadnos: Even if I had some fiber and make it act like a rubberband when light hits it
but there isnt
anonimasu: I'm not sure about that
just get a drunk to sit by the window. whenever it gets light, they'll roll over one way, when it gets dark, they may roll back
But I know someone that would
JymmmEMC: I think you are pushing it..
experimental stuff isnt stuff you can use yet
anonimasu: What's to lose?
unobtanium is always nice..
Hmmm.... if light is really radiation.... can light act as a filter to other types/forms of radiation?
well, either a filter, or enhancer?
radiation exhibits the property of superposition
SWPadnos: Could you say rephrase that in "dumbass" please
which means that different "bits" of radiation don't interfere with each other - they just cross and go their merry ways
(though you will see interference patterns, which are used to make holograms for instance, since multiple waves that are in phase or our of phase hit and are absorbed by the film)
I was thinking cesium and light =)
still not mechanical energy, but just pulled that one out of my ass =)
says "sunlight" so might be thermal
well of course it's possible, it's just that nearly all processes for doing it convert the light to an intermediate form, such as heat or electricity
(I say nearly all because of the paper you linked earlier :) )
SWPadnos: I didn't actually *READ* that paper, just gave you the link to it. Way over my head =)
heh, yeah, it is a bit in-depth
I only scanned it - was busy trying to find a good replacement motherboard :(
did you find one?
several. just trying to choose one
it'll take weeks to get the thing RMA'ed through Gigabyte, and I'm past the 30 day NewEgg cutoff
though I should try them anyway
SWPadnos: HAWT DAMN! http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/07/light-sensitive-shape-shifting-plastic-drives-motor/
SWPadnos: Now to get my paws on some!!!
He LOOOOOOO Tokyo.... Come in Tokyo!!!!!
I'll go get some for you if you pay for my flight :)
I think I'll write them instead =)
Already found the researchers email address =)
SWPadnos: oh shit... heres a video if it doing it's thing.... http://www.res.titech.ac.jp/~polymer/
JymmmEMC: but I hope you realize that it requires pulsed light to do any work like that
no, it uses UV on one side and daylight on the other
UV makes it contract and daylight makes it stretch again
ah I miseed that
still unusable since you need UV to make it work (but the existence of sunlight on the other end would make it spin)
so you'd have to use a friction thingie like a speedometer to make the lever move only when the motor is turning
SWPadnos: Dude! That's what filters are for!
well, that may work - use a very good UV-pass filter on one end, maybe a UV-block on the other
but it's very inefficient they said, so you'd have the same total energy problem as before
it doesn't need to be much
even if you need 1 watt, and the mechanism were 100% efficient, that would be a couple of square inches (not much)
the average small-ish solenoud is 6-12W
SWPadnos: but then you have no idea what he's moving either
but you're getting there. give it a few years :)
what mass :)
SWPadnos: could be a needle valve
that dosent negate the fact that it has a mass :p
that requires pressure, and that means you have to re-pressurize the stuff every night
and I just gave proof that it HAS been done.
opening a needle valve between STP and STP does no good :)
I think I mised what jymm is goind to do with the valves
JymmmEMC, needs a lobotomy on his vagueness
he never said
yeah.. he probably wants the patent
and everyone else to work it out for him
that's not a problem though, if he could be more specific about what he's moving and how fast and what it getighs
he just doesn't want us to know how lazy he is. he could just as well get up every day and let the birds out of the cage :)
SWPadnos: You are COMPLETELY wrong there!
SWPadnos: They let themselves out all on their own!
JymmmEMC: if you provide a example, "the needle weighs 12grams" we dont need to guess as much
especially the parrots. they can just grab the latch and open it
at least they have brains then
SWPadnos: they dont have a cage
at least I still have all my eyeballs
SWPadnos: keep mucking with me and we can take care of that =)
well, it's getting way too late for me
late for me too, but Im installing now
hehe my coordination is failing
it's a sign that it's time to slepe
schlepp to sleep
SWPadnos: Had a thought....
SWPadnos: What if I were to introduce Azobenzene into a rubberband? The good Dr was attempting to have pure mechanical energy from light, I'm just trying to get some mechanical motion from light
it could work. I don't know
it would be nice to be able to just use a prism to split the UV to one end and "the rest" to the other end
If Azobenzene contracts with daylight, it might contract a rubberband, then use the properties of rubber itself to reform to it's "natural" shape
SWPadnos: the prism idea sounds good
it seems that they had to expose it to normal sunlight to get it to relax though, which is the hard part
your energy source (sunlight) provides both the contraction and relaxation
which means (to me anyway) that you want something that stays "active" when it's moving, and becomes "inactive" when not moving
SWPadnos: well splitting the specturm sounds like a nice idea. even could have a colamiater help too
like the speedometer-like thing I mentioned - it returns from spring force
dman it, I can't find if Azobenzene is on the control substances list
Nice.... Experimental carcinogen, equivocal tumorigenic agent.
LOL... Therapeutic Uses: insecticide
that suonds therapeutic
[02:02:20] <JymmmEMC> http://chembank.broad.harvard.edu/chemistry/viewMolecule.htm?cbid=1122
from wikipedia: "According to the 1858 method, nitrobenzene is reduced by iron filings in the presence of acetic acid. In the modern synthesis, zinc is the reductant in the presence of base."
acetic acid is vinegar
you might be able to convince some unsuspecting chem student to make some for you :)
Not nitrobenzene, Azobenzene
[02:04:08] <JymmmEMC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azobenzene
yes. to make azobenzene, you reduce nitrobenzene with iron filings and vinegar
(from that wikipedia page ;) )
but where do I get nitrobenzene
well, there's the rub :)
SWPadnos: Hey fscker... Nitrobenzene is highly toxic (TLV 5 mg/m3) and readily absorbed through the skin.
it looks like azobenzene is used in aniline dyes
SWPadnos: DOUBLE SMACK!
what, you thought this would be SAFE! ???
oh, it will relax on its own after a while
so you don't need the blue light to do it
SWPadnos: Just becasue you cant' decide on a mobo, doens't mean you have to kill me now! Eeeeesh, enny meeny minny moe for crying out loud if you can't decide!
well, it has to support the Phenom X4 and at least 8GB RAM, or I don't want it
don't ask me to choose between a fast computer and your life :)
you get 286 or nuttun!
no 16 bit for you!
I've got a MILLION-86. muahahahahahaha
(he says, in his best Dr. Evil voice)
I wonder what azobenzene in it's pure would do when exposed to light?
not much. I think it's a liquid
it may work as a hydraulic fluid though
SWPadnos: I'm thinking a very thin (mass surface area) air-tight (vacuum?) container that displaces air
main hazards: toxic
air-tight but not UV/light-tight ...
Ok, so I need a hazmat suit
SWPadnos: sandwiched between two panes of glass
glass blocks about 95% of UV though, unless you get special glass
I'd have to have a glass blower make the cintainer for me
with a special formulation of glass
not just a special shape
I still need to get my hands on this stuff first =)
heh, yeah. didin't notice any distributors in a quick google search ;)
lewin1 is now known as lewing
[02:15:25] <SWPadnos> http://www.parchem.com/
Heh found the MSDS
[02:16:25] <JymmmEMC> https://www.ultrasci.com/ultra/catalogmsds.aspx?productnum=33819030
$36 for 4mL
R20/22Harmful by inhalation and if swallowed.
R45May cause cancer.
R50/53Very toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment.
R68Possible risks of irreversible effects.
Yes, I know is a carcigenic
I did say HazMat suit earlier, didn't I ?
yep, and it's an environmental hazard, which doesn't dissolve well in water
1mL == 0.2 teaspoons
[02:23:11] <SWPadnos> http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/ProductDetail/SIAL/424633
5g or 25g, $27.4\30 and $109.00 respectively
that's in the crystal form
Though I wonder if crystal or liquid would be better?
you need a container with two layers of glass?
you can always dissolve it if you need to, but I imagine getting back to crystalling form would be harder
SWPadnos: hows methanol in evaporating compared to denatued alcohol?
recrystallization is pretty easy provided you don't form an azeotrope
note that all the mechanical thingies were "polymerized" - that means converted to a thin film and then stuck to something (more or less)
and rotovaps are cheap on ebay
JymmmEMC, do you mean at dissolving the stuff?
I don't know, but I'd use whatever they use :)
SWPadnos: I can get azobenzene in a menthal solution
I saw that, or you can get crystalline azobenzene and methanol, and dissolve it if you need to
I'm just not familure with menthanol in how fast it evaporates
I AM with denatured alcohol
it evaporates fairly quickly.
it evaporates quickly, like other alcohols
* JymmmEMC peers over at the gallon of denatured alcohol
which is actually good - that may deposit a film of azobenzene onto something if you spread a solution and let it dry
if you buy a rotovap, you can pull off the alcohol fairly quickly and do it in a sealed environment
we're talking a few ml of solution at most
I think the concentration is pretty low too - one site said something like 10 micrograms/ml
the link yuou gave said 99%
vs the Sigma Aldritch one that sells 5g of crystal (about 4.6 ml) for < 4ml of solution
that's the crystal, not the solution
I'd rather have the crystal
if you don't have a problem just buying the crystal, most chemical suppliers don't ask if you have the permits.
toastydeath: It was just finding the stuff =)
* toastydeath shrug
just trying to help =)
SWPadnos: in crystal form, when exposed to light, do you think it expands and contracts?
toastydeath: it's all good =)
I wouldn't imagine the crystal doing that, but I don't know
SWPadnos: What I'm thinking is just have a vial of the crystals, then attach a tube to it with a bladder on it
light hits the crystal, the bladder contracts. remove the light, the bladder expands
yeah. I don't know if it's a requirement, but the experiments you found all had a coating of the stuff bonded to a substrate (generally a flexible plastic)
basically displacing the air in the sealed system
SWPadnos: remember the barometers you made in grade school with a jar and balloon?
I think the important part there is that there's a mechanical link between the two benzene rings and the substrate, such that when the molecule switches to the contracted arrangement, it pulls the substrate (and adjacent molecules) along with it
sure, it could work - it's sure easy to try
yeah just need some membrain
noo pc plays daisy on real hardware :)
noo box on da web :)
all the updates , now I can go home to bed
note due to age they nare out of copyrightyes but you wont get though the door with a camera
oops wrong kb
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2008-11-15.txt
I sense that logger_emc has been up since 2004-10-18Z21:33:17
In math, what do you call A and B ? A / B = c
divisor and ?
a or b?
heh lazy bot was off a few days
terms I think
ah.. divisor is an integer which evenly divides n without leaving a remainder.
I just know that i call A "num" and B "den" in my scripts
well, I now know what to call my functin =)
I call them variables
well, I need to break them down further =)
* archivist breaks JymmmEMC down further as he wishes
some cryptography routines
well, they can be called terms or variables
but those aren't the proper mathematical terms
divisor and dividend are what you are looking for though
In mathematics, a divisor of an integer n, also called a factor of n, is an integer which evenly divides n without leaving a remainder.
dividend / divisor
[12:49:11] <JymmmEMC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisibility
hmmm, dual menaing
no single meaning
dividend, b the divisor and c the quotient.
see last item for what I mean: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Adivisor
well, terms are what you use in algebra, or variables
so, what's wrong with dividend and divisor?
he doesnt see the single use in the wp article :)
success 0 stray cats were added.
should we get joint following errors on sim models
playing with fresh trunk and max5gui
using RT "sim/xxx" configs?
I don't think so, but there may be a bug lurking in the max5 kins - I think there was a problem somewhere when you had tool length comp on, and moved to certain poses
max5triv to be specific
dunno that one specifically
hbm did the logo ok but max5triv fails
just looking to see whats involved to do one to match my machine
ahh, horizontal boring mill
the new visuals :)
I'll bet it has to do with kinematics, and the issues we've got with joint limits vs. axis limits for non-trivkins machines
dunno nuffing about that
heh, and I thikn I've told you about all I know ;)
Paragon, were you the winner?
archivist Just checked, I am a WINNER :-) .... £33.88
I guessed it was you as you buyer nickname is pxxxx
I brought my cooke in today, it has a 6" gap between its feet
archivist: You thought that did'nt you
Ive been offered a Boxford AUD Lathe for £1600 inc vat (dealer) today does that seem a little on the high side?
he has to make a crust. but seen far better prices on fleabay, just never sure of condition
I saw it at Home & Workshop Machinary I know Steve and Chris do a good job on there equipment. I bought my Denford Starmill and Starturn Lathe from them.
Im watching a Denford
Nice Machine! Incidently I think Boxford was started by Horace Denford of Denford Machine Tools.
ah that explain similarity
And the Viceroy stuff also
that one will probably get beyond my current finances till I get a deal done for some parts
archivist: It's a shame! Who the hell invented this thing called money? We should have a resource based economy... :-)
See ... http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
or try reading "The Creature from Jekyll Island", by G. Edward Griffin (if you want more in-depth information on the money part)
SWPadnos: Is it a good read?
it's interesting, for sure. good is a matter of perspective :)
I quite liked the explanation of fractional based monetary system and how money is actually magicaly produced out of thin air.
I wsa annoyed with some of the author's opinions getting in the way, but there's a lot (lot!) of excellent information and references if you can ignore those parts
yes, "fiat money"
Fiat Money ?
that's what it's called
* alex_joni suggests "Making money" by Terry Pratchett
gread read :)
it's actually "fractional reserve banking", but the money created out of thin air is called (by these guys) "fiat monet" - ie, money created by fiat rather tahn an actual creation of value
Never heard it called that. What does fiat stand for?
[17:57:45] <SWPadnos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_currency
it's not an acronym. fiat is a word :)
[17:58:36] <SWPadnos> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fiat
cool. didn't know about that site
like the HF fiat machinery? ;)
I decree that this is actually machinery! :)
not useless lumps of metal and plastic!
I say golems
The thing that astounds me is that for every dollar created a debt is attached to it due to interest charged from the fed reserve. To pay that debt the goverment needs to create more dollars which has debt and so on and on. So inflation will alway occur over time. Are we seeing the beginnings of the end.... Or is this whole thing orchestrated to get to one world goverment / bank ... ?
"gold standard vs. fiat currency, computer simulation, fraud, golems"
fiat currency.. who the hell pays in cars?
once you've finished Jekyll Island, move on to "Tragedy and Hope", by Carroll Quigley
fiats are made of papare there for equal to paper money
(try to get the original 1968 version, not the reprint from the '70s)
or maybe it was 1966 - hold on
SWPadnos: try a Discworld novel once.. I'm sure you'll love it
I take a trip on to the library on Monday if I get the time.
alex_joni, I've read most of them, at least all the ones that came out before the last few years
ah, great :D
manking money is from last year
Paragon, and then, if you're still able to, pick up "A Century of War", by William Engdahl
SWPadnos: Have you seen the Zeiggeist movie?
ys, I have a dozen or so of the DVDs even (to give to people who "need" to see it :) )
Cool.... I only came across it he other week. Completly by accident.
I liked the older version, specifically during the part with the George Carlin skit
but the new one is good too
its about why aliens invented money - german short movie
I like the beginning of the new one and the middle and end of the first one. The religion bit didn't realy get me and there are concerns that the writer did not quote proofs for the statements (in the religious part)
But over all a must watch!
yes, they do make some leaps and their conclusions about the motivation for doing things aren't testable
however, I have confirmed some of the facts with experts (an old friend who is a mythology buff, and a mythology professor)
I haven't found any of their facts wrong, but of course you run into trouble when you decide you know what another person was thinking based on those facts
(could be right, but who's to know?)
oooh - time for food. bbl
One problem with a resource based ecconomy is that to get to it we need to use the cash based ecconomy (as this is were we are today) so how is the cycle broken. Also if you have ever been to a wedding were there is a free bar people are just greedy and drink either to much or leave there glass somwhere half full and get another ... ;-)
Still a resource based ecconomy would allow us to have what ever lathe we so choose :-)
mibo67: Just watched that short. Very good!
Gotta split Fellas .. off to pub for swift pint :-)
[19:04:11] <fragalot> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_DQjQbtTY
SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
nobody here for a few hours
i've been Ebay'n most of the day.. for x-mas gifts... may work on the lathe tomorrow.. we'll see..
got a pair a sweet guitars for my son and and a friend's son... Martin backpacker's WITH pickups installed factory..
i have an all acoustic 1 and they are SWEET guitars
* anonimasu nods
im currently winning on 5 other ones on e-bay
why do you need 5?
* anonimasu is doubtful of new guitars
OT: I'm attempting to write a custom Base Conversion routine, but I'm having a hard time getting started. I think it's the basic math. I've used a few examples to try and get started but still not getting it.
my best guitar is a batard one :p(old japanese ibanez)
i have alot of family who fell in LOVE with mine this summer.... so for x mas if i can they get 1
it's from 1979 or something(not worth any money though)
jap Ibanez??? i love the ibanez
My best and only guitar is a rubber band =)
it's a electric though
Jymmm gimme the math...
anon.. yeah they sound sweet too my cousin has an '80ish one..
dmess: I just have one of the stock pickups the other one are a active emc, but it's going away soon
That page I get. I even found a one in php already but it chokes when I customize it http://www.geocities.com/oosterwal/computer/numericbase.html
emg makes nice pickups, but they are sterile I think
anonimasu: wind your own =)
JymmmEMC: no, that's not really practical
anonimasu: never said it was =)
[22:33:37] <dmess> http://cgi.ebay.com/MARTIN-BACKPACKER-GUITAR-WITH-PICKUP-GIGBAG-STRAP-NEW_W0QQitemZ200255184761QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item200255184761&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
i GOT 2 coming
dmess: I like it alot, I paus like 150eur for it :)
dmess: Your son's friend is gonna be surprised
so will mine... hes expeting a full acoustic.. and hounding for it
I like that you can play acustic with pickups with dist too
dmess: hit toys-r-us (or the dollar store) and get some plastic baby guitar
what 150 eur worth in cnuck bucks these days.. i was raped to the us dollar on these already...
dmess: hide their REAL presents in the garage or something. pack the plastic guitar in the same size box though.
[22:36:49] <anonimasu> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200274106353&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=200255184761&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4
well they are gonna land at 300 canadian a piece.. ;(
ii like your thinkin' Jymmm
dmess: Or... get all the raw materials to MAKE a guitar, and give them that.
damn.. I missed paul gilbert in stockholm
i sent a pair of earings to my sister up north once in a 3x3x3 box... with 10-12 other boxes in it.... the kids were little then and it turned into a game... of boxes and tape...
duct tape.... LOTS AND LOTS of duct tape
packing tape are better ;)
duct tape only adheres well to other duct tape
it is the ONLY Martin guitar made in Mexico... so how hard would a Kit be??
anonimasu: too easy to cut thru though
packaging tape adheres to everything and leaveas glue ;)
dmess: make aluminium guitars ;)
my 2 sons used it ALL that day... poured syrup in some boxes... with a choclate treat... LOL
i have 2 male fools an 1 female smartie pants in the family
i was at bob dylan this past Wednesday ... with my oldest son.. had a blast
but he didnt play the guitar... organ and harp only...
anon... my sis called on the telephone to ask WTF she was lookin' for.... ;)
all i could reply was the boys hid it...