well im off to see bob dylan... be back later with hearing loss im sure...;)
tell us if he sings in tune yet, been trying long enough
that part of his appeal.... any onw can do a BOB song...
hi all... im back... no opening act.. just 2 solid hours of bob dylan and his band.... ;)
measure - design - draw up - lathe - mill - drill - saw - tap - finished, working prototype in one evening
it's nice when all my tools (and I) just work right
ya gotta love it when ya make a plan... work it.... and IT works...
Hey I have a general question for ya all... If you could have sf.net be anything you wanted, what would that be?
wow, hard question
Didn't mena it to be =)
But would it be the same, diffenrent, add something, change something, take somethng away, etc.
the bug tracker would be much better
they would have a variety of _reliable_ source control systems to choose from
mainly it would be like it is, but better
their site would not be full of advertising
it would have a wiki and other web hosting so we don't have to come up with it
is it the ads or more UI ?
UI == The look and feel of it
UI = User Interface
I know I know
sorry, I don't understand what you're asking
what is "it" in "is it" in your question?
Example, google has a lot of ads, but I dont think ppl have an issue with them due to the UI
oh you mean their website?
it being the look and feel of sf.net itself
it's neither totally look-and-feel nor ads
most of the specifics I listed above are functionality
ads are just a minor irritation
cradek: so more too many ads per page? overall?
I don't care about ads - the other things are much more important
okey, anything else you might change/add/remove?
if you're asking about look-and-feel of a web site, or the functionality and usefulness of the sourceforge services?
I meant 'are you asking ...'
cradek: anything at all really.
JymmmEMC, I have a couple of things for SF :)
SWPadnos: go for it
well, I don't like the new "web2.0-ish/Vista-ish" look and feel
I'm curious about how the results of the survey are going to be used...
"Shilts was charged with ... felony discharging bodily fluids at a public safety worker"
SWPadnos: so slimline somewhat like google does?
the "at-a-glance" thing isn't useful to me, and colapsing all the things you can access (downloads/screenshots/help/...) by hiding some of them until you click something just doesn't work for me
lol @ cradek
JymmmEMC: minimalist gets my vote
support for other RCS besides subversion
not necessarily minimalistic, just don't change stuff to match the Windows look-du-jour
that's what it looks like to me anyway - shiny buttons with bright colors, everything's a graphic when it doesn't need to be ...
fenn: are they only svn now?
i dont really pay much attention, actually
I don't think so
but i assume things like github wouldnt exist otherwise
So overall SF.net in what they are now is fine, just polish it so to speak?
well, reliability has to be excellent, which I'm not sure it is
yeah the mailing lists take a dump every couple months
SWPadnos: whats not reliable and since about when?
our mailing lists still go through SF, and sometimes mails are delayed (for some people) by hours or days
the mailing list interface sucks overall
Well the mailing lists had some hickups, but that's stated in the announcements page
there should be an option to not allow anonymous bug reports
I'm not sure if CVS is reliable now, but you may know that access problems were the reason we moved CVS away from SF
their ML archive search etc is totally unusable
is something like TRAC available? (don't know that we would use it though)
SWPadnos: for bug tracking?
no, it's more like wiki-ish markup for code notes
it integrates nicely with SVN
I guess it does do bug tracking too
there should be a url like http://sf.net/lists/emc
instead of the random number url you get now
oh, add lxr or something like it too :)
isn't it something like sf.net/emc/lists/ now ?
gmane is so superior to sf's ML archives
SWPadnos: hey that actually works
it redirects to mail/?group_id=6744 though
fenn: is that such a bad thing?
JymmmEMC: if i dont ever see a url, how am i supposed to know it exists?
fenn: ask SWPadnos =)
maybe there is no URL
SWPadnos: remember that movie "the net" where there was a little pi symbol? what was the url to that?
I never saw that movie :)
I have a friend who got (even more) paranoid after seeing it though
oh, actually I think I did see part of it
heh, I remember that
if you look at http://trac.edgewall.org/browser
you can see the wiki-like features of trac that I think are cool
it hot-links wiki words, changeset numbers, and bug numbers in the commit messages
heh - a perfect (though not very bad) example of SF mailing list issues
Jack Coats just sent two emails, one in reply to the other
I received the reply a few minutes before the original, and both of them came ~10 minutes after they were sent
that's not a critical example of the problem, but I have seen the same thing with delays of several hours to even a couple of days (though those could be a relay retransmit delay thing)
SWPadnos: Try not to confuse greylisting ( a very necessary evil) with periodic server hiccups with misconfigured sending servers too
JymmmEMC is now known as MrAsshole
MrAsshole is now known as JymmmEMC
good morning :)
we are in the other side of the earthling
do you know what software could do 3D design and generate G-code on linux..? ..preffered is opensource one
im having problem crossing from windowsXP to Linux, i might need one
Fi514: hmm.. there are a couple mentioned here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Cam
ok. ill go there
cursed be EMC. :p I wanted the "help", so i hit F1,.....
fragalot: heh :)
is there a way to "define" the tools?
tool table? its a text table you edit
and where might that be located?
I would have to read the manual to tell you
* fragalot reads it
they really sent the scraper :)
you a happy boy then
teir email template was messed up
I passed a physics test toda
well, im 90% sure it's better then just passing
if you get that feeling, usually you end up getting dissapointed
it was easy though :)
there was one hard question in the whole test
to calculte the energy of a thing sliding by some photocells
(how much energy was converted to heat)
well, heat /IS/ energy, so you just calc. the joules & yerdone.
joules are lacking here
oh.. I got the time difference
the time it took to pass the photocells
I derived the velocity out of that
ie, how much was lost during the slope..
thats the idea.
that's gotta be friction :)
I know there's a neat wa of caclcing it with the F=mgh
damnit why won't the X axis work
the enable pin works,.. lets try pulsing the step manually
Nope, thats not it either
all thats left is the current limiter gone bonkers :(
AND I think i just found a bug in EMC2.. keyboard jogging, if i hold 3 down, and 2, then keep holding 3, but quickly let go of 2 and hit 8, the Y axis doesn't change direction like it should and keeps on going
could be the pc & keyboard too tho :p
yep, current limitation on the X axis is shot, which means i get to tear the PCB out again (sigh) and then spend quite some time trying to find the issue :'(