#emc | Logs for 2008-11-10

[00:00:11] <dmess> it says i should be able to run win2k and catia on the linux box
[00:00:30] <dmess> well the catia is my stretch
[00:01:15] <dmess> but it need an image of the host drive... where would the BOOT linux image be??
[00:02:20] <BigJohnT> I saw that the other day but forgot what they said
[00:03:36] <BigJohnT> dang this weapon is dirty :/
[00:18:43] <izua> question. for a trapezoidal profile we have max cruise speed and max acceleration
[00:19:04] <izua> does the trapezoidal imply that we will always use the max acceleration? or that we use constant acceleration?
[02:28:44] <dmess> hi all.....
[02:29:29] <dmess> so we start over... virtualBox OR VMWare???
[04:32:58] <JymmmEMC> dmess: try both
[07:45:32] <anonimasu> http://www.emco.co.uk/pct105.htm
[07:45:46] <anonimasu> I like the crossslide idea
[09:38:18] <archivist> ted hyde reply is very good!
[12:03:49] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[12:17:45] <piasdom> can someone look at my xorg file and tell me why my comp is slow and monitor acting funny ?http://paste.org/index.php?id=4283
[12:19:05] <alex_joni> looks ok to me, what do you mean comp is slow and monitor acting funny?
[12:19:22] <alex_joni> do you need v4l ?
[12:20:37] <piasdom> don't know what that is
[12:21:05] <piasdom> alex:you were helping me thrusday with my resolutions
[12:24:00] <piasdom> alex:i uninstalled the via driver and edited my xorg file to add nocc? or something like that
[12:27:39] <piasdom> alex:but what i added is not in there
[12:28:35] <alex_joni> then you probably did something else in the mean time
[12:28:52] <alex_joni> or you pastebin'ed another file..
[12:29:11] <archivist> be careful and make notes of your changes
[12:29:47] <piasdom> alex: i didn't do anything other then uninstall via and edit that file
[12:30:59] <piasdom> alex: my resoultion is working(1024x768)and others
[12:33:42] <piasdom> the file at paste.org is the file at etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:34:55] <archivist> piasdom, you still have not stated what "my comp is slow and monitor acting funny" is
[12:36:16] <piasdom> well,when i go into alex, the mointor has diagonal lines
[12:36:45] <piasdom> hard for me to discribe what it looks like
[12:37:19] <archivist> that looks like a wrong speed setting
[12:37:33] <piasdom> on the monitor >
[12:37:35] <piasdom> ?
[12:38:35] <archivist> hfreq
[12:39:47] <izua> izua is now known as Guest3680
[12:40:17] <Guest3680> Guest3680 is now known as izua
[12:51:33] <piasdom> where can i post an image ?
[12:51:41] <fragalot> omploader.org
[12:52:10] <piasdom> i have a screeshot of my monitor
[12:52:19] <piasdom> fragalot:thanks
[12:53:19] <fragalot> yw
[12:56:41] <piasdom> this is what i get ... http://omploader.org/vd3M1/Screenshot.png
[12:58:36] <archivist> that looks unlocked but for short periods, monitor cannot lock to freq you have set
[12:59:01] <piasdom> how do i set the freq ?
[13:00:16] <archivist> that I dont know see ubuntu forums about setting monitors
[13:01:41] <piasdom> archivist:thanks
[13:03:13] <archivist> although it could be an addressing problem, driver not matched to video card
[13:05:02] <izua> remember to restart X after doing changes to xorg.conf. ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:05:26] <izua> if you end up with a terminal, type "startx"
[13:08:51] <alex_joni> I bet that's a problem with opengl
[13:09:12] <alex_joni> piasdom: try running glxgears from a terminal instead of emc2/axis
[13:09:16] <alex_joni> and see if it looks the same
[13:09:51] <jepler> if the screenshot utility produces a picture like that, it's not a problem with the horizontal and vertical frequency being incompatible with your monitor. in that case, the screenshot would look perfect but a photograph would look distorted.
[13:10:58] <jepler> if applications that use opengl do that ("glxgears" is another one that is installed by default), then you have a software problem with opengl. if you installed some third-party video driver and then removed it, my first bet would be that its removal process left something wrong.
[13:12:06] <alex_joni> hi jeff
[13:16:58] <jepler> hi
[13:17:05] <jepler> * jepler runs out the door to go to the office
[13:19:07] <anonimasu> :)
[14:59:33] <piasdom> hello again
[15:01:23] <piasdom> ok...i reINSTALLED ubuntu gain and now my desktop is hugh....what do i need to add to the xorg.conf file to fix my resolution ?
[15:01:47] <piasdom> something like nocc...don't remember
[16:33:59] <piasdom> hello all
[16:34:36] <piasdom> got the resolution fixed...thanks for ya'll help
[16:34:47] <piasdom> now i need emc running
[16:35:32] <piasdom> why does it look for toolchangers...i don't have one...error log at http://paste.org/index.php?id=4285
[16:38:10] <archivist> sysfs: duplicate filename 'parport_pc' can not be created, running a second copy?
[16:38:22] <cradek> that's "normal"
[16:38:34] <cradek> I don't see any real error yet ... it must be hidden
[16:38:38] <piasdom> archivist:no...just the one
[16:38:57] <SWPadnos> what config did you run, and what was the error?
[16:39:10] <piasdom> the flash screen comes up then i get the error screen
[16:39:11] <SWPadnos> I didn't see any mention of toolchangers in the log you posted
[16:39:18] <SWPadnos> we don't use flash
[16:39:26] <piasdom> SWPadnos:at the end
[16:39:42] <piasdom> not flash....the popup :)
[16:39:48] <SWPadnos> heh
[16:40:05] <anonimasu> jmm
[16:40:09] <SWPadnos> I don't see any occurrence of the letters "tool"
[16:40:10] <anonimasu> this is odd..
[16:40:25] <anonimasu> the face I machined dosent have any high/low spots -_-
[16:40:29] <anonimasu> nothing to scrape
[16:40:35] <SWPadnos> darn
[16:40:40] <archivist> hehe
[16:41:02] <archivist> scrape the machining marks away
[16:41:18] <toastatwork> that's actually what you have to do
[16:41:31] <anonimasu> * anonimasu sighs
[16:41:32] <toastatwork> machined surfaces don't spot well, you have to mark them up once with dykem and scrape it off
[16:41:48] <anonimasu> that's disturbing :)
[16:41:59] <anonimasu> it might be my paint too,,
[16:42:16] <anonimasu> im using somekindof permenent marker that's super wet and dries slowly
[16:42:30] <anonimasu> cant get dykem here :/
[16:42:34] <archivist> "paint"! engineers blue or alcohol
[16:42:43] <toastatwork> no i am not talking about spotting compound
[16:42:43] <anonimasu> alcohol?
[16:42:50] <anonimasu> alcohol based
[16:42:51] <anonimasu> ?
[16:42:51] <toastatwork> i am talking about using like, a sharpie
[16:42:55] <anonimasu> yeah
[16:43:01] <toastatwork> to put a dried layer on, so you know where you've been
[16:43:05] <toastatwork> you cannot SCRAPE with a sharpie
[16:43:09] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[16:43:16] <toastatwork> k
[16:43:24] <archivist> alchohol leaves a thinner residue than engineers blue
[16:45:28] <archivist> saw that tip in a scraping article in an IBM book I have
[16:45:44] <toastatwork> you can't see alcohol until you've already scraped the thing down
[16:45:50] <toastatwork> i tried it
[16:46:02] <archivist> well is for final
[16:46:05] <piasdom> i just noticed that it didn't paste the entire log .it didn't give the end
[16:46:30] <SWPadnos> try pasting only the end (it looks like you have a bunch or EMC runs there)
[16:48:50] <piasdom> http://paste.org/index.php?id=4286
[16:49:17] <cradek> it is still cut off
[16:49:32] <cradek> try pastebin.ca
[16:49:35] <piasdom> i know
[16:49:38] <piasdom> ok
[16:49:51] <SWPadnos> or try pasting only the end of the log, not the whole thing
[16:49:57] <piasdom> put the end WAS there :) brb
[16:50:11] <SWPadnos> take out most of the beginning before hitting "send" :)
[16:50:29] <piasdom> SWPadnos:i acn only get the whole thing brb
[16:50:36] <SWPadnos> wait a sec
[16:50:40] <piasdom> k
[16:50:58] <SWPadnos> oh, is this an upload of a file or a place where you paste the text into an edit box?
[16:52:31] <piasdom> it's the error popup
[16:52:49] <piasdom> it pops up when i start emc
[16:52:50] <SWPadnos> the popup doesn't submit the text to a website, you do
[16:52:55] <piasdom> yes
[16:52:59] <piasdom> http://pastebin.ca/1250392
[16:53:12] <SWPadnos> you either do that by pasting the text and sending it, or copying it to a file and uploading it
[16:53:20] <piasdom> but i can't do cont c or right click
[16:53:45] <jepler> #
[16:53:45] <jepler> Mini.hal:74: pin 'icontrol.0.tool-changed' does not exist
[16:53:52] <jepler> OK, ^^^ if you read carefully, there's a typo
[16:54:10] <jepler> you need "iocontrol" you wrote "icontrol"
[16:54:26] <piasdom> i didn't write that...i used setpconf
[16:54:40] <SWPadnos> typo alert ;)
[16:54:54] <SWPadnos> stepconf outputs the correct spelling on all other systems I've seen
[16:55:06] <SWPadnos> did you edit any of the files yourself?
[16:55:10] <piasdom> no
[16:55:23] <piasdom> just went thru stepconf
[16:55:47] <SWPadnos> then I suspect you have problems with your disk drive
[16:55:56] <piasdom> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO :)
[16:56:04] <jepler> regardless of the cause, you should correct the problem by editing the file Mini.hal and correcting the spelling
[16:56:26] <piasdom> jepler:thanks brb
[16:57:29] <piasdom> that did it :):)
[16:57:41] <piasdom> thanks or ya'll help
[16:58:31] <jepler> this is a bug that was fixed in release 2.2.6. after installing from cd you should use the update manager to get the latest emc bugfixes.
[16:58:39] <jepler> revision
[16:58:40] <jepler> date: 2008/05/31 15:51:45; author: jepler; state: Exp; lines: +1 -1
[16:58:40] <jepler> fix non-working configuration if "onscreen prompt for toolchange" was disabled
[16:59:06] <piasdom> jepler:thanks....going to check update
[17:00:33] <SWPadnos> oh good, maybe it isn't the hard disk
[17:00:51] <SWPadnos> (I thought it might be due to the essentially random other problems you seemed to have before)
[17:01:12] <jepler> it's hard to imagine a hard disk problem that manifests as single-character deletions in files
[17:02:12] <piasdom> i think the ramdom problems was due to my random dumnest :)
[17:02:20] <jepler> bbl, back to work
[17:02:37] <piasdom> but i reinstalled ubuntu and did make any changes
[17:02:47] <piasdom> thanks again jepler
[17:08:01] <archivist> anonimasu, http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalog/Stuarts_Micrometer_Blue_Engineers_Marking.html
[17:25:55] <anonimasu> hmm
[17:25:58] <anonimasu> iab
[17:26:26] <archivist> micrometer blue
[17:27:22] <anonimasu> now the question is where to get it in sweden
[17:30:37] <anonimasu> hmm.. this paint of mine works better
[17:31:32] <archivist> you must have a real engineers supplier up there
[17:32:02] <toastatwork> linseed oil and pigment
[17:32:07] <toastatwork> art supply store
[17:32:20] <toastatwork> should sell prussian blue
[17:32:46] <archivist> I dont know of any other purpose made make of blue
[17:32:53] <anonimasu> hmm
[17:32:55] <toastatwork> ?
[17:33:03] <anonimasu> I wonder how my whiteboard pen works...
[17:33:06] <toastatwork> made make of blue?
[17:33:17] <archivist> stuarts
[17:33:20] <anonimasu> nope..
[17:34:05] <anonimasu> my red works _ok_ but it's hard to get free once it's stuck..
[17:34:54] <toastatwork> seriously man, art supply store
[17:34:57] <toastatwork> has everything you need
[17:35:02] <toastatwork> the oil and the pigments
[17:35:30] <anonimasu> pigments?
[17:35:32] <archivist> they are ground for clour not particle size
[17:35:39] <archivist> colour
[17:35:51] <toastatwork> archivist: that's why they specifify prussian blue specifically as the pigment
[17:36:00] <toastatwork> because, for whatever reason, it winds up the right size for scraping
[17:36:08] <toastatwork> as least that's what machine tool reconditioning says
[17:36:47] <archivist> well for £2.6 plus post I just get the real thing :)
[17:36:55] <toastatwork> indeed
[17:36:58] <anonimasu> Yes, but you are not in north sweden -_-
[17:37:18] <archivist> the post could work from here to you
[17:37:27] <toastatwork> archivist: pigment = color
[17:37:34] <toastatwork> prussian blue is a very fine powder
[17:37:40] <archivist> there is an ebay seller for it as well
[17:37:55] <archivist> toastatwork, Im fully aware
[17:38:05] <toastatwork> archivist: i'm not talking to you
[17:38:17] <toastatwork> i was respondng to anonimasu's "pigments?"
[17:39:39] <anonimasu> hehe, question is if I can buy it locally
[17:40:13] <toastatwork> you'd have to actually go to the art supply store to determine that
[17:40:17] <toastatwork> or call them up and ask
[17:40:38] <anonimasu> closed for today :/
[17:40:44] <toastatwork> ownt
[17:40:56] <anonimasu> Cotman Prussian blue ½ kopp
[17:41:36] <anonimasu> aquarel paint..
[17:42:11] <toastatwork> if you decide to go and mix your own this way, it needs to be the powder, not pre-mixed paint
[17:42:46] <anonimasu> hmm..
[17:42:57] <anonimasu> I could buy solid paint
[17:43:01] <anonimasu> and smash it..
[17:43:10] <toastatwork> uh.
[17:43:26] <toastatwork> maybe you should just keep looking for pre-mixed spotting fluid
[17:43:27] <toastatwork> lol
[17:43:58] <anonimasu> toastatwork: I'm in sweden damnit.
[17:44:13] <anonimasu> it takes me 12 days to get a book from the us -_-
[17:44:16] <archivist> we dont know the swedish term to google
[17:44:29] <piasdom> bbl
[17:45:08] <toastatwork> then buy a couple tubes so when you run out you aren't stuck waiting next time =)
[17:45:37] <anonimasu> tey call prussian blue "berliner blue"
[17:46:14] <toastatwork> make sure it's the same thing and not just the same hue, because as archivist pointed out, particle size is critical
[17:46:15] <archivist> I havnt finished a tin of stuarts in 20 years
[17:47:36] <archivist> anonimasu, I wish you had mentioned a couple of weeks ago, saw some for sale at the show I went to
[17:49:02] <anonimasu> tink thoose toolfastdirect are serious?
[17:49:20] <anonimasu> I mean, is it sane to pay them by cc
[17:49:20] <anonimasu> :p
[17:49:26] <archivist> should be have not used them
[17:51:46] <anonimasu> hmm..
[17:51:47] <archivist> * archivist searches their site, in business since 1955
[17:53:49] <anonimasu> should be safe enough
[17:55:08] <SWPadnos> hnmmm. I wonder if this guy will go through with the sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190264780876
[17:57:41] <anonimasu> hm.. UPS carrier service -_-
[17:57:43] <archivist> not as shiny as the last one :(
[17:57:52] <cradek> reserve not met...
[17:57:57] <SWPadnos> nope, but a bit cheaper (if he decides to sell)
[17:58:12] <SWPadnos> yeah, that's why I wonder
[17:58:24] <SWPadnos> the description implies that he's fed up with relisting the thing
[17:58:42] <SWPadnos> maybe he'll sell if I let him keep the computer and Galil card :)
[17:58:55] <archivist> hehe try it on
[17:59:13] <cradek> argh, why is aluminum plate still $5.50/lb?
[17:59:45] <archivist> supplier bought when the price was high
[18:00:05] <cradek> metalexpress and enco both have about that same price
[18:00:13] <anonimasu> hm..
[18:00:14] <cradek> I was expecting maybe half that
[18:00:27] <anonimasu> I end up buying 4 tins to meet the minimum order-_-
[18:01:21] <archivist> ew find something else to get
[18:01:29] <anonimasu> £105.35 micrometer :p
[18:01:45] <anonimasu> http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalog/moore_and_wright_25_digital_micrometer_large.JPG
[18:02:35] <anonimasu> oh, I can buy a scraper too
[18:02:58] <anonimasu> http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalog/ECLIPSE_99b_scraper_large.jpg
[18:03:00] <cradek> ha, $9.50/lb at speedymetals.com
[18:04:14] <jepler> cradek: sounds like you should pay $5.50 and say "thank you"
[18:04:16] <anonimasu> 19.17£
[18:05:20] <archivist> anonimasu, I have the old wooden handle version of that
[18:05:52] <anonimasu> works well?
[18:06:37] <archivist> only carbon steel iirc needs sharpening more often
[18:06:41] <SWPadnos> huh. Alu is ~90 cents/pound at the moment
[18:07:03] <cradek> SWPadnos: yeah but can you buy it for that?
[18:07:07] <fragalot> buy buy buy?
[18:07:14] <SWPadnos> well, if you want a few thousand tons, probably
[18:07:19] <SWPadnos> http://www.kitcometals.com/
[18:07:26] <fragalot> do it, wait, then sell it again
[18:07:53] <archivist> anonimasu, I must admit its been used more for restoring (getting rust off) than the proper job
[18:08:02] <anonimasu> :)
[18:08:33] <archivist> beats wire brush for some jobs
[18:08:58] <archivist> cast iron steam engine joints etc
[18:10:05] <anonimasu> swoop..
[18:10:12] <anonimasu> I hope they dont take 4k eur off my card now -_-
[18:15:58] <anonimasu> :)
[18:20:16] <anonimasu> yay purchase went through
[18:21:37] <anonimasu> well, I guess there's nothing to do more then wait for the book on scraping and the scraper :p
[18:21:44] <anonimasu> I tried some scraping toda
[18:21:46] <anonimasu> y
[18:21:56] <anonimasu> it seems that if you have a _ok_ surface it goes pretty fast
[18:22:35] <archivist> and if it isnt.....months turn into years.....
[18:22:50] <archivist> * archivist joking
[18:23:36] <SWPadnos> "the hours seem like days
[18:23:37] <SWPadnos> "
[18:25:09] <anonimasu> lol
[18:26:59] <archivist> woot just got moneyz for my cnc helical
[18:28:56] <anonimasu> haha
[18:33:14] <anonimasu> hm, I think scraping could end up being therapheutic..
[18:33:20] <anonimasu> (slightly obsessive)
[18:33:22] <anonimasu> once you start
[18:48:09] <anonimasu> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=uHF7TtHVSWE&feature=related
[18:49:40] <anonimasu> it looks like it's not too hard with a carbide scraper ;)
[18:57:57] <piasdom> ok..now wheni go thru stepconf...the machine doesn't move when i use test.....is there a sample conf for sherline somewhere ?
[19:38:24] <mhop5> testing only
[19:38:52] <piasdom> i know...i will have to adjust to my michine
[19:39:08] <piasdom> but i don't know where to start
[19:41:20] <piasdom> i seem to remember that my motor step/rev was 400..but it's not working
[19:41:42] <anonimasu> well, read on your motors
[19:41:46] <piasdom> tried 200...400... 800....1600 :)
[19:41:49] <anonimasu> or check the p/n and google it up
[19:41:52] <anonimasu> *sigh*
[19:41:54] <anonimasu> you cant just guess it
[19:43:19] <piasdom> i know...all i can fine is the step angle is 1.8
[19:43:48] <izua> and if a full revolution has 360 degrees..
[19:43:52] <piasdom> don't know what o do with that :) musch less any of this other stuff :)
[19:44:09] <piasdom> 200
[19:44:17] <piasdom> i tried that
[19:44:32] <piasdom> i;ll set it at that and change other settings...thanks
[19:44:47] <anonimasu> piasdom: well, that's a good start
[19:44:54] <piasdom> :)
[19:44:57] <anonimasu> 360/1.8 = 200 steps per rev
[19:45:07] <anonimasu> do you have any idea if the driver is microstepping?
[19:45:30] <piasdom> anonimasu:thanks
[19:45:58] <piasdom> looking
[19:48:08] <piasdom> i found my notes...max vel is .3 and max acc is 30
[19:49:13] <anonimasu> ok
[19:49:14] <alex_joni> sounds a bit high (accel)
[19:49:17] <anonimasu> what about microstepping?
[19:49:32] <piasdom> set at 2
[19:49:44] <anonimasu> ok. that means you ahve 1/2 the step size
[19:50:14] <anonimasu> so 360/1.8 * 2
[19:50:19] <piasdom> that has to do wih my step time ?
[19:50:28] <anonimasu> nothing it's just that you end up with 400 steps/rev
[19:51:59] <jepler> (if you know the SCALE value that worked right, you can just enter that value for "motor steps per revolution" and enter 1 for microstepping, pulley, and leadscrew)
[19:54:04] <piasdom> don't know where to find the scale ?
[19:54:12] <jepler> I meant if you have it from your old inifile
[19:54:28] <piasdom> ok
[19:54:28] <piasdom> lml
[19:54:32] <jepler> if you don't have it, then the goal of the axis configuration page is to help you compute it from values you may know
[19:54:38] <BigJohnT> piasdom: take a look on page 8 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_Getting_Started.pdf
[19:55:42] <piasdom> scale at 16000.0 ?
[19:57:34] <piasdom> and i've been trying to get the scale to that..but i have to put the step/rev to 800
[19:59:50] <anonimasu> why have you set the steps/rev to 800?
[20:00:09] <piasdom> to get my axis scale to 16000
[20:00:34] <piasdom> that's what in my old ini file
[20:01:09] <anonimasu> ok
[20:01:13] <anonimasu> and that's right?
[20:01:26] <BigJohnT> what kind of drive do you have?
[20:01:43] <piasdom> sherline stepper motors
[20:01:51] <fragalot> Ford C-max.
[20:01:53] <fragalot> * fragalot runs
[20:02:05] <piasdom> oops
[20:02:57] <BigJohnT> piasdom: how many turns does the stepper make to move the axis one user unit?
[20:03:03] <piasdom> 20
[20:03:39] <BigJohnT> then you have 200 steps per rev on the motor and
[20:03:58] <BigJohnT> and 4 for microsteps and
[20:04:24] <BigJohnT> leadscrew is 20
[20:04:43] <piasdom> i got the lead at 20
[20:04:49] <BigJohnT> 200 x 4 x 20 = 16,000
[20:05:18] <BigJohnT> pulley teeth is 1 and 1
[20:05:48] <piasdom> i have that...but i have to keep clicking jog to get it to jump one tooth :)
[20:06:21] <piasdom> max vel is .3 and max acc is 30
[20:06:37] <BigJohnT> are you jogging in AXIS?
[20:06:44] <piasdom> yes sir
[20:06:49] <piasdom> in stepconf
[20:07:31] <BigJohnT> not AXIS but the test screen in stepconf?
[20:07:37] <piasdom> want a snapshot of what i have ?
[20:07:39] <piasdom> yes
[20:07:52] <BigJohnT> sure
[20:07:56] <piasdom> brb
[20:08:00] <BigJohnT> ok
[20:10:02] <piasdom> where can i post an image ?
[20:10:25] <BigJohnT> hmmm image something... let me look
[20:10:39] <BigJohnT> http://imagebin.ca/
[20:10:59] <piasdom> thanks
[20:11:38] <piasdom> http://imagebin.ca/view/gwXwrp.html
[20:12:02] <BigJohnT> that looks ok
[20:12:25] <BigJohnT> so when you "Test this axis" it won't jog?
[20:12:30] <alex_joni> 4800 Hz is ok?
[20:12:55] <alex_joni> there might be an enable on the drives which isn't put high during test..
[20:13:36] <BigJohnT> dunno about the Hz Alex
[20:13:59] <alex_joni> seems a bit slow to me
[20:14:01] <piasdom> just moves a tooth of the gear i thing
[20:14:32] <piasdom> thing = think
[20:14:32] <BigJohnT> in the test window?
[20:14:55] <piasdom> yes
[20:15:12] <piasdom> jogging it the test win of stepcong
[20:15:23] <BigJohnT> then lower your speed down real low like 1 and test again
[20:15:32] <piasdom> k
[20:16:51] <piasdom> i set vel. to .1 and acc to 1.0
[20:17:00] <piasdom> no movment
[20:17:44] <BigJohnT> might be as Alex suggested
[20:18:13] <piasdom> if i hold the jog down,it doesn't move..if i click,it just barely moves
[20:19:15] <piasdom> if i click it about 10 to 15 time,it moves maybe .002"
[20:19:17] <BigJohnT> sounds like you have the step and direction lines switched to me (been there done that)
[20:19:28] <anonimasu> :)
[20:19:30] <anonimasu> me too
[20:19:40] <anonimasu> hm, scraping seems like fun
[20:19:53] <BigJohnT> if you click 16,000 times does it move one inch?
[20:19:57] <anonimasu> (the little I tried with my crap file was fun)
[20:20:01] <piasdom> at the begining of stepconf ?
[20:20:22] <piasdom> BigJohnT: didn't click that many times :)
[20:21:14] <BigJohnT> on your parallel port setup page how do you have the axis configured?
[20:21:20] <piasdom> 3
[20:21:31] <BigJohnT> which axis are you testing?
[20:21:34] <piasdom> disabled a axis
[20:21:37] <piasdom> x
[20:22:18] <BigJohnT> looking at the sherline web site the show X step 3 and X direction as 2
[20:23:18] <fragalot> lol
[20:23:31] <fragalot> sorry, wrong window
[20:23:35] <piasdom> mine is backwards :)
[20:23:44] <BigJohnT> rotflmao
[20:23:55] <BigJohnT> swap then try again
[20:24:00] <piasdom> k
[20:25:08] <piasdom> BY GOLLY YOU GOT IT :)
[20:25:22] <piasdom> thanks a lot BigJohnT
[20:25:34] <BigJohnT> as they say down in Arkansas SWEET!
[20:25:58] <piasdom> <----grinnin ear to ear :)
[20:26:05] <anonimasu> :)
[20:26:14] <BigJohnT> gotta go ttul
[20:26:19] <fragalot> \o/
[20:26:56] <piasdom> later
[20:31:09] <alex_joni> piasdom: fixed your display issues?
[20:31:42] <fragalot> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/amazing-pictures-lolbirds.jpg
[20:48:31] <piasdom> alex:yes sir
[20:49:20] <piasdom> alex:found a command that brought up a win that let me chose my display and res
[20:50:22] <piasdom> alex:thanks fo your help...looks like i'm up and running now :)
[20:51:53] <alex_joni> that's good
[20:51:57] <alex_joni> (for everyone :P)
[20:55:14] <piasdom> alex:i was that big of a pest ? :)
[20:55:51] <alex_joni> piasdom: nah
[20:55:59] <alex_joni> could have been less though :P
[20:57:57] <jymm> SWPadnos: You want a 8port 10/100 HUB ?
[20:59:27] <fragalot> piasdom: yes.
[20:59:29] <fragalot> * fragalot hides
[21:00:19] <piasdom> hahahhaha
[21:00:35] <piasdom> i know and appreciate all of you :)
[21:00:50] <fragalot> * fragalot feels appreciated
[21:00:55] <fragalot> <3 that feeling
[21:01:23] <piasdom> this linux is a headache when you first start :)
[21:01:39] <fragalot> no it's not
[21:01:54] <piasdom> to me
[21:02:50] <piasdom> i'm not the brightest apple in the orange tree
[21:03:36] <alex_joni> all that matters is that you got on your way
[21:03:48] <alex_joni> now you have the powers
[21:04:08] <piasdom> i know more...a step
[21:04:27] <piasdom> and good people like ya'll
[21:04:48] <fragalot> http://omploader.org/vd3Rw/Screenshot.png :'(
[21:04:52] <fragalot> if only that worked....
[21:08:54] <alex_joni> irssi ftw
[21:09:13] <fragalot> Aye
[21:09:22] <fragalot> the problem, however, is the power history thingy
[21:09:23] <fragalot> :(
[21:09:36] <fragalot> and every channel i've asked in sofar, just;.. ignores the question :p
[21:10:09] <fragalot> lets try asking in #ubuntu and see how they react when they see the kernel name on the right
[21:12:15] <fragalot> same like the other channels :p just ignore me
[21:13:08] <piasdom> wish i could help you,but i have no idea what that is(not the power thingy)
[21:13:31] <jepler> fragalot: I think the Power History shows something useful on my laptop with the ubuntu 8.04 generic kernel
[21:13:48] <fragalot> yes, it does
[21:13:50] <jepler> well, I dunno about useful, but it does show some kind of graph
[21:13:56] <fragalot> jepler: it works on another laptop
[21:14:17] <SWPadnos> Jymm, I was thinking of something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817111031
[21:24:07] <alex_joni> http://www.jonramvi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/toshiba-harddrive.jpg cute
[21:27:01] <cradek> nooooo
[21:27:28] <cradek> spinning magnetic platters are the wrong technology
[21:27:38] <cradek> that technology is ridiculous
[21:30:38] <jepler> "IBM Racetrack Memory is an experimental non-volatile memory device under development at IBM's Almaden Research Center by a team led by Stuart Parkin.[1] In early 2008 a 3-bit version was successfully demonstrated"
[21:31:09] <SWPadnos> so by early 2018 they should be up t a kbit or so
[21:31:13] <SWPadnos> up to
[21:31:24] <anonimasu> Yay
[21:31:28] <anonimasu> my book's shipping
[21:32:22] <anonimasu> I've started dreaming up a lathe again :p
[21:32:35] <jepler> "Racetrack Memory uses spin-coherent electric current to move the magnetic domains along a nanoscopic permalloy wire about 200 nm across and 100 nm thick. As current is passed through the wire, the domains pass by magnetic read/write heads positioned near the wire, which alter the domains to record patterns of bits"
[21:32:40] <jepler> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racetrack_memory
[21:32:47] <jepler> I don't even understand this; it must be area 51 tech
[21:33:09] <jepler> am I to understand that it's not the wires that move, but the charge on the wires that moves?
[21:33:54] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is still waiting for TESAROM
[21:34:13] <SWPadnos> transcapacitor memory
[21:34:42] <cradek> I was just going to say it sounds like bubble memory but with 1d 'bubbles' instead of 2d
[21:34:45] <alex_joni> jepler: I don't understand a lot either, but I do understand 15kV needed for 1 cm long parmalloy racetrack
[21:34:56] <anonimasu> LOL
[21:35:59] <anonimasu> that's pretty ridiculous
[21:37:24] <jepler> alex_joni: what's TESAROM?
[21:38:18] <alex_joni> tesa ROM. and tesa WORM.: Multi-layered optical data storage based on polymer films
[21:38:25] <alex_joni> basicly tape
[21:40:47] <anonimasu> :)
[21:40:51] <alex_joni> it was an idea started aroudn 2001
[21:40:59] <alex_joni> it should have been finished by 2003-4
[21:41:15] <alex_joni> they use a rotating laser inside a tape roll
[21:41:48] <alex_joni> by focusing the laser you could make a bubble
[21:41:57] <alex_joni> they calculated about 3.5GB on one roll
[21:42:05] <jepler> huh, I guess I never knew what bubble memory actually was either
[21:42:14] <jepler> what crazy things you can do with physics..
[21:44:34] <fragalot> alottarainoutside
[21:44:44] <jepler> in other "stupid technology you don't need" news: VMWare Promises Multiple OSs On One Cellphone
[21:45:11] <jepler> "yeah, I bought an iphone but I'm running wince and android on it through vmware"
[21:47:04] <alex_joni> no macos?
[21:49:21] <fragalot> lmao
[21:49:33] <fragalot> who runs OSX on apple hardware anyways
[21:49:43] <fragalot> 3/4 mac users I know use either XP or Vista
[21:50:17] <cradek> I run ubuntu on mine
[21:50:30] <fragalot> yes, thats the other 1/4th
[21:50:30] <fragalot> :p
[21:50:31] <cradek> except for the bogus keyboard layout and cyclops mouse, it's a great machine
[21:51:47] <anonimasu> hehe
[21:52:34] <fragalot> muskeetos!
[21:52:46] <fragalot> I hate those animals,.. what purpose do they serve in this world?
[21:52:58] <piasdom> food
[21:53:02] <fragalot> bah
[21:53:09] <piasdom> try one
[21:53:17] <fragalot> I just did
[21:53:20] <fragalot> sortof
[21:53:22] <fragalot> one flew up my nose
[21:53:23] <cradek> who in the world has a purpose anyway?
[21:53:30] <piasdom> hahahhaha
[21:53:35] <piasdom> we all do
[21:53:41] <cradek> uh-huh.
[21:53:45] <piasdom> k
[21:53:54] <fragalot> our purpose is to help people like piasdom
[21:54:00] <fragalot> without piasdom, we serve no purpose
[21:54:03] <fragalot> it's a circular dependancy
[21:54:06] <anonimasu> :)
[21:54:17] <piasdom> there you go..i give purpose
[21:54:23] <fragalot> woohoo
[21:54:31] <fragalot> I just took a picture with my camera in a pitch black room
[21:54:36] <piasdom> glad i could helps someone
[21:54:37] <fragalot> it shows up as if it were daylight \o/
[21:54:52] <alex_joni> fragalot: daylight black?
[21:55:01] <anonimasu> fragalot: ir illumination?
[21:55:01] <alex_joni> the best shade there is
[21:55:02] <fragalot> no, daylight daylight
[21:55:29] <fragalot> anonimasu: only light in here is the light emitted by the alarm clock, which is at minimal brightness
[21:55:35] <anonimasu> ok
[21:55:37] <alex_joni> Results 1 - 10 of about 9,220,000 for daylight black.
[21:55:40] <anonimasu> :)
[21:55:41] <fragalot> all i had to do was open the shutter for 60 seconds
[21:55:42] <fragalot> xD
[21:55:53] <anonimasu> now if thoose damn english people would ship my scraperl..
[21:56:00] <anonimasu> it might arrive at the sawe time as teh book
[21:56:01] <anonimasu> the..
[21:56:21] <fragalot> lol
[21:56:31] <piasdom> g'nite all
[21:56:42] <fragalot> rofl
[21:56:53] <fragalot> it even captured the last image on the tv before i shut it off
[21:57:00] <fragalot> gnite piasdom
[21:57:06] <anonimasu> longing to learn how to scrape might be insane :p
[22:55:28] <cradek> 29 degrees and raining...
[22:55:50] <SWPadnos> we had temporary sleet/freezing/hail stuff a little while ago
[22:56:11] <cradek> I'm hoping for the snow-on-ice that we occasionally get
[22:56:29] <SWPadnos> oh, rather stay home and machine stuff?
[22:56:50] <cradek> possibly...
[22:57:08] <cradek> doesn't look like the weather will cooperate with that though.
[22:57:43] <SWPadnos> bummer
[23:03:32] <dmess> the temp is dropping like a rock here... down to -2 overnite
[23:04:11] <dmess> we had a high of 5 today with 40km/h n/w winds
[23:04:55] <SWPadnos> yeah, but you're in Canada so that's warmer
[23:09:32] <anonimasu> hmm
[23:26:33] <alex_joni> good night all
[23:26:46] <anonimasu> night
[23:31:10] <BigJohnT> night alex