it says i should be able to run win2k and catia on the linux box
well the catia is my stretch
but it need an image of the host drive... where would the BOOT linux image be??
I saw that the other day but forgot what they said
dang this weapon is dirty :/
question. for a trapezoidal profile we have max cruise speed and max acceleration
does the trapezoidal imply that we will always use the max acceleration? or that we use constant acceleration?
so we start over... virtualBox OR VMWare???
dmess: try both
[07:45:32] <anonimasu> http://www.emco.co.uk/pct105.htm
I like the crossslide idea
ted hyde reply is very good!
can someone look at my xorg file and tell me why my comp is slow and monitor acting funny ?http://paste.org/index.php?id=4283
looks ok to me, what do you mean comp is slow and monitor acting funny?
do you need v4l ?
don't know what that is
alex:you were helping me thrusday with my resolutions
alex:i uninstalled the via driver and edited my xorg file to add nocc? or something like that
alex:but what i added is not in there
then you probably did something else in the mean time
or you pastebin'ed another file..
be careful and make notes of your changes
alex: i didn't do anything other then uninstall via and edit that file
alex: my resoultion is working(1024x768)and others
the file at paste.org is the file at etc/x11/xorg.conf
piasdom, you still have not stated what "my comp is slow and monitor acting funny" is
well,when i go into alex, the mointor has diagonal lines
hard for me to discribe what it looks like
that looks like a wrong speed setting
on the monitor >
izua is now known as Guest3680
Guest3680 is now known as izua
where can i post an image ?
i have a screeshot of my monitor
this is what i get ... http://omploader.org/vd3M1/Screenshot.png
that looks unlocked but for short periods, monitor cannot lock to freq you have set
how do i set the freq ?
that I dont know see ubuntu forums about setting monitors
although it could be an addressing problem, driver not matched to video card
remember to restart X after doing changes to xorg.conf. ctrl+alt+backspace
if you end up with a terminal, type "startx"
I bet that's a problem with opengl
piasdom: try running glxgears from a terminal instead of emc2/axis
and see if it looks the same
if the screenshot utility produces a picture like that, it's not a problem with the horizontal and vertical frequency being incompatible with your monitor. in that case, the screenshot would look perfect but a photograph would look distorted.
if applications that use opengl do that ("glxgears" is another one that is installed by default), then you have a software problem with opengl. if you installed some third-party video driver and then removed it, my first bet would be that its removal process left something wrong.
* jepler runs out the door to go to the office
ok...i reINSTALLED ubuntu gain and now my desktop is hugh....what do i need to add to the xorg.conf file to fix my resolution ?
something like nocc...don't remember
got the resolution fixed...thanks for ya'll help
now i need emc running
why does it look for toolchangers...i don't have one...error log at http://paste.org/index.php?id=4285
sysfs: duplicate filename 'parport_pc' can not be created, running a second copy?
I don't see any real error yet ... it must be hidden
archivist:no...just the one
what config did you run, and what was the error?
the flash screen comes up then i get the error screen
I didn't see any mention of toolchangers in the log you posted
we don't use flash
SWPadnos:at the end
not flash....the popup :)
I don't see any occurrence of the letters "tool"
this is odd..
the face I machined dosent have any high/low spots -_-
nothing to scrape
scrape the machining marks away
that's actually what you have to do
* anonimasu sighs
machined surfaces don't spot well, you have to mark them up once with dykem and scrape it off
that's disturbing :)
it might be my paint too,,
im using somekindof permenent marker that's super wet and dries slowly
cant get dykem here :/
"paint"! engineers blue or alcohol
no i am not talking about spotting compound
i am talking about using like, a sharpie
to put a dried layer on, so you know where you've been
you cannot SCRAPE with a sharpie
* anonimasu nods
alchohol leaves a thinner residue than engineers blue
saw that tip in a scraping article in an IBM book I have
you can't see alcohol until you've already scraped the thing down
i tried it
well is for final
i just noticed that it didn't paste the entire log .it didn't give the end
try pasting only the end (it looks like you have a bunch or EMC runs there)
[16:48:50] <piasdom> http://paste.org/index.php?id=4286
it is still cut off
or try pasting only the end of the log, not the whole thing
put the end WAS there :) brb
take out most of the beginning before hitting "send" :)
SWPadnos:i acn only get the whole thing brb
wait a sec
oh, is this an upload of a file or a place where you paste the text into an edit box?
it's the error popup
it pops up when i start emc
the popup doesn't submit the text to a website, you do
[16:52:59] <piasdom> http://pastebin.ca/1250392
you either do that by pasting the text and sending it, or copying it to a file and uploading it
but i can't do cont c or right click
Mini.hal:74: pin 'icontrol.0.tool-changed' does not exist
OK, ^^^ if you read carefully, there's a typo
you need "iocontrol" you wrote "icontrol"
i didn't write that...i used setpconf
typo alert ;)
stepconf outputs the correct spelling on all other systems I've seen
did you edit any of the files yourself?
just went thru stepconf
then I suspect you have problems with your disk drive
regardless of the cause, you should correct the problem by editing the file Mini.hal and correcting the spelling
that did it :):)
thanks or ya'll help
this is a bug that was fixed in release 2.2.6. after installing from cd you should use the update manager to get the latest emc bugfixes.
date: 2008/05/31 15:51:45; author: jepler; state: Exp; lines: +1 -1
fix non-working configuration if "onscreen prompt for toolchange" was disabled
jepler:thanks....going to check update
oh good, maybe it isn't the hard disk
(I thought it might be due to the essentially random other problems you seemed to have before)
it's hard to imagine a hard disk problem that manifests as single-character deletions in files
i think the ramdom problems was due to my random dumnest :)
bbl, back to work
but i reinstalled ubuntu and did make any changes
thanks again jepler
now the question is where to get it in sweden
hmm.. this paint of mine works better
you must have a real engineers supplier up there
linseed oil and pigment
art supply store
should sell prussian blue
I dont know of any other purpose made make of blue
I wonder how my whiteboard pen works...
made make of blue?
my red works _ok_ but it's hard to get free once it's stuck..
seriously man, art supply store
has everything you need
the oil and the pigments
they are ground for clour not particle size
archivist: that's why they specifify prussian blue specifically as the pigment
because, for whatever reason, it winds up the right size for scraping
as least that's what machine tool reconditioning says
well for £2.6 plus post I just get the real thing :)
Yes, but you are not in north sweden -_-
the post could work from here to you
archivist: pigment = color
prussian blue is a very fine powder
there is an ebay seller for it as well
toastatwork, Im fully aware
archivist: i'm not talking to you
i was respondng to anonimasu's "pigments?"
hehe, question is if I can buy it locally
you'd have to actually go to the art supply store to determine that
or call them up and ask
closed for today :/
Cotman Prussian blue ½ kopp
if you decide to go and mix your own this way, it needs to be the powder, not pre-mixed paint
I could buy solid paint
and smash it..
maybe you should just keep looking for pre-mixed spotting fluid
toastatwork: I'm in sweden damnit.
it takes me 12 days to get a book from the us -_-
we dont know the swedish term to google
then buy a couple tubes so when you run out you aren't stuck waiting next time =)
tey call prussian blue "berliner blue"
make sure it's the same thing and not just the same hue, because as archivist pointed out, particle size is critical
I havnt finished a tin of stuarts in 20 years
anonimasu, I wish you had mentioned a couple of weeks ago, saw some for sale at the show I went to
tink thoose toolfastdirect are serious?
I mean, is it sane to pay them by cc
should be have not used them
* archivist searches their site, in business since 1955
should be safe enough
hnmmm. I wonder if this guy will go through with the sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190264780876
hm.. UPS carrier service -_-
not as shiny as the last one :(
reserve not met...
nope, but a bit cheaper (if he decides to sell)
yeah, that's why I wonder
the description implies that he's fed up with relisting the thing
maybe he'll sell if I let him keep the computer and Galil card :)
hehe try it on
argh, why is aluminum plate still $5.50/lb?
supplier bought when the price was high
metalexpress and enco both have about that same price
I was expecting maybe half that
I end up buying 4 tins to meet the minimum order-_-
ew find something else to get
£105.35 micrometer :p
[18:01:45] <anonimasu> http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalog/moore_and_wright_25_digital_micrometer_large.JPG
oh, I can buy a scraper too
[18:02:58] <anonimasu> http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalog/ECLIPSE_99b_scraper_large.jpg
ha, $9.50/lb at speedymetals.com
cradek: sounds like you should pay $5.50 and say "thank you"
anonimasu, I have the old wooden handle version of that
only carbon steel iirc needs sharpening more often
huh. Alu is ~90 cents/pound at the moment
SWPadnos: yeah but can you buy it for that?
buy buy buy?
well, if you want a few thousand tons, probably
[18:07:19] <SWPadnos> http://www.kitcometals.com/
do it, wait, then sell it again
anonimasu, I must admit its been used more for restoring (getting rust off) than the proper job
beats wire brush for some jobs
cast iron steam engine joints etc
I hope they dont take 4k eur off my card now -_-
yay purchase went through
well, I guess there's nothing to do more then wait for the book on scraping and the scraper :p
I tried some scraping toda
it seems that if you have a _ok_ surface it goes pretty fast
and if it isnt.....months turn into years.....
* archivist joking
"the hours seem like days
woot just got moneyz for my cnc helical
hm, I think scraping could end up being therapheutic..
once you start
[18:48:09] <anonimasu> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=uHF7TtHVSWE&feature=related
it looks like it's not too hard with a carbide scraper ;)
ok..now wheni go thru stepconf...the machine doesn't move when i use test.....is there a sample conf for sherline somewhere ?
i know...i will have to adjust to my michine
but i don't know where to start
i seem to remember that my motor step/rev was 400..but it's not working
well, read on your motors
tried 200...400... 800....1600 :)
or check the p/n and google it up
you cant just guess it
i know...all i can fine is the step angle is 1.8
and if a full revolution has 360 degrees..
don't know what o do with that :) musch less any of this other stuff :)
i tried that
i;ll set it at that and change other settings...thanks
piasdom: well, that's a good start
360/1.8 = 200 steps per rev
do you have any idea if the driver is microstepping?
i found my notes...max vel is .3 and max acc is 30
sounds a bit high (accel)
what about microstepping?
set at 2
ok. that means you ahve 1/2 the step size
so 360/1.8 * 2
that has to do wih my step time ?
nothing it's just that you end up with 400 steps/rev
(if you know the SCALE value that worked right, you can just enter that value for "motor steps per revolution" and enter 1 for microstepping, pulley, and leadscrew)
don't know where to find the scale ?
I meant if you have it from your old inifile
if you don't have it, then the goal of the axis configuration page is to help you compute it from values you may know
piasdom: take a look on page 8 http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_Getting_Started.pdf
scale at 16000.0 ?
and i've been trying to get the scale to that..but i have to put the step/rev to 800
why have you set the steps/rev to 800?
to get my axis scale to 16000
that's what in my old ini file
and that's right?
what kind of drive do you have?
sherline stepper motors
* fragalot runs
piasdom: how many turns does the stepper make to move the axis one user unit?
then you have 200 steps per rev on the motor and
and 4 for microsteps and
leadscrew is 20
i got the lead at 20
200 x 4 x 20 = 16,000
pulley teeth is 1 and 1
i have that...but i have to keep clicking jog to get it to jump one tooth :)
max vel is .3 and max acc is 30
are you jogging in AXIS?
not AXIS but the test screen in stepconf?
want a snapshot of what i have ?
where can i post an image ?
hmmm image something... let me look
[20:10:39] <BigJohnT> http://imagebin.ca/
[20:11:38] <piasdom> http://imagebin.ca/view/gwXwrp.html
that looks ok
so when you "Test this axis" it won't jog?
4800 Hz is ok?
there might be an enable on the drives which isn't put high during test..
dunno about the Hz Alex
seems a bit slow to me
just moves a tooth of the gear i thing
thing = think
in the test window?
jogging it the test win of stepcong
then lower your speed down real low like 1 and test again
i set vel. to .1 and acc to 1.0
might be as Alex suggested
if i hold the jog down,it doesn't move..if i click,it just barely moves
if i click it about 10 to 15 time,it moves maybe .002"
sounds like you have the step and direction lines switched to me (been there done that)
hm, scraping seems like fun
if you click 16,000 times does it move one inch?
(the little I tried with my crap file was fun)
at the begining of stepconf ?
BigJohnT: didn't click that many times :)
on your parallel port setup page how do you have the axis configured?
which axis are you testing?
disabled a axis
looking at the sherline web site the show X step 3 and X direction as 2
sorry, wrong window
mine is backwards :)
swap then try again
BY GOLLY YOU GOT IT :)
thanks a lot BigJohnT
as they say down in Arkansas SWEET!
<----grinnin ear to ear :)
gotta go ttul
piasdom: fixed your display issues?
[20:31:42] <fragalot> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/amazing-pictures-lolbirds.jpg
alex:found a command that brought up a win that let me chose my display and res
alex:thanks fo your help...looks like i'm up and running now :)
(for everyone :P)
alex:i was that big of a pest ? :)
could have been less though :P
SWPadnos: You want a 8port 10/100 HUB ?
* fragalot hides
i know and appreciate all of you :)
* fragalot feels appreciated
<3 that feeling
this linux is a headache when you first start :)
no it's not
i'm not the brightest apple in the orange tree
all that matters is that you got on your way
now you have the powers
i know more...a step
and good people like ya'll
[21:04:48] <fragalot> http://omploader.org/vd3Rw/Screenshot.png
if only that worked....
the problem, however, is the power history thingy
and every channel i've asked in sofar, just;.. ignores the question :p
lets try asking in #ubuntu and see how they react when they see the kernel name on the right
same like the other channels :p just ignore me
wish i could help you,but i have no idea what that is(not the power thingy)
fragalot: I think the Power History shows something useful on my laptop with the ubuntu 8.04 generic kernel
yes, it does
well, I dunno about useful, but it does show some kind of graph
jepler: it works on another laptop
Jymm, I was thinking of something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817111031
[21:24:07] <alex_joni> http://www.jonramvi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/toshiba-harddrive.jpg
spinning magnetic platters are the wrong technology
that technology is ridiculous
"IBM Racetrack Memory is an experimental non-volatile memory device under development at IBM's Almaden Research Center by a team led by Stuart Parkin. In early 2008 a 3-bit version was successfully demonstrated"
so by early 2018 they should be up t a kbit or so
my book's shipping
I've started dreaming up a lathe again :p
"Racetrack Memory uses spin-coherent electric current to move the magnetic domains along a nanoscopic permalloy wire about 200 nm across and 100 nm thick. As current is passed through the wire, the domains pass by magnetic read/write heads positioned near the wire, which alter the domains to record patterns of bits"
[21:32:40] <jepler> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racetrack_memory
I don't even understand this; it must be area 51 tech
am I to understand that it's not the wires that move, but the charge on the wires that moves?
* alex_joni is still waiting for TESAROM
I was just going to say it sounds like bubble memory but with 1d 'bubbles' instead of 2d
jepler: I don't understand a lot either, but I do understand 15kV needed for 1 cm long parmalloy racetrack
that's pretty ridiculous
alex_joni: what's TESAROM?
tesa ROM. and tesa WORM.: Multi-layered optical data storage based on polymer films
it was an idea started aroudn 2001
it should have been finished by 2003-4
they use a rotating laser inside a tape roll
by focusing the laser you could make a bubble
they calculated about 3.5GB on one roll
huh, I guess I never knew what bubble memory actually was either
what crazy things you can do with physics..
in other "stupid technology you don't need" news: VMWare Promises Multiple OSs On One Cellphone
"yeah, I bought an iphone but I'm running wince and android on it through vmware"
who runs OSX on apple hardware anyways
3/4 mac users I know use either XP or Vista
I run ubuntu on mine
yes, thats the other 1/4th
except for the bogus keyboard layout and cyclops mouse, it's a great machine
I hate those animals,.. what purpose do they serve in this world?
I just did
one flew up my nose
who in the world has a purpose anyway?
we all do
our purpose is to help people like piasdom
without piasdom, we serve no purpose
it's a circular dependancy
there you go..i give purpose
I just took a picture with my camera in a pitch black room
glad i could helps someone
it shows up as if it were daylight \o/
fragalot: daylight black?
fragalot: ir illumination?
the best shade there is
no, daylight daylight
anonimasu: only light in here is the light emitted by the alarm clock, which is at minimal brightness
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,220,000 for daylight black.
all i had to do was open the shutter for 60 seconds
now if thoose damn english people would ship my scraperl..
it might arrive at the sawe time as teh book
it even captured the last image on the tv before i shut it off
longing to learn how to scrape might be insane :p
29 degrees and raining...
we had temporary sleet/freezing/hail stuff a little while ago
I'm hoping for the snow-on-ice that we occasionally get
oh, rather stay home and machine stuff?
doesn't look like the weather will cooperate with that though.
the temp is dropping like a rock here... down to -2 overnite
we had a high of 5 today with 40km/h n/w winds
yeah, but you're in Canada so that's warmer
good night all