What ya think? Dot Pitch a lil big... http://www.emprex.com/02_products_02.php?id=279
25.5@1920x1200 is fine
my Dells are 24" and the same res, the extra 1.5" isn't that much
turning ss2140 today
though it seems like hard to find cutting data :)
the insert one?
err ss2142 that is sorry
there is a general machining book
forgot the title
its about choosing inserts speeds machines allsorts
if you can remember it drop me a msg
* anonimasu will check if he has it
* izua found a blank CD
grey colour book
in your face, fate! (this thing can be burnt at 16x max)
anonimasu, on the site I can find the application guides which includes materials but no deep linking :(
archivist: I have the books but I have no idea what they call it
what the steel?
anonimasu: did you check with machinist toolbox?
I find it as a structural steel, and with suffixes a stainless
"high strength low alloy (HSLA) structural steels that are covered by ASTM A 572 or ASTM A 1011,"
[11:17:30] <archivist> http://www.abc.se/~m8010/nya-stalb.htm
I found a ref. to S420M
so 420 is the flow limit in N/mm^2
and N means normalized, M is thermomechanically treated
(if you're there)jepler:i noticed that wine does the same as emc...
jepler:and that i don't have helvetica font loaded...which emc uses
piasdom: wait, your problem has returned? last I knew, you had determined that everything was OK when you booted the live CD
everything worked in the live cd...but not from the harddrive
did you reinstall
not yet...guess i will
but does emc use helvetica fonts ?
yesterday I showed you specifically what fonts it was using. but it uses only fonts that are installed on the live cd, and all fonts installed on the live cd should be copied during the install.
also, your screenshot shows the word "File" appearing on the menu, but no items appearing inside the menu -- but both the menubar and the dropdown menu use the same font
so I don't see it being a font installation menu
jepler:so i need to reinstall
er, font installation problem
but I don't have a real theory about what it could be -- your video driver was affected by an update? a configuration item you changed after installation? beats me.
jepler:thanks...bbl....off to reinstall
cradek_ is now known as cradek
hopefully this works...if not...i'll just keep it :)
jepler:thanks for all the help
you might want to verify the CD before you install from it
cradek:i ran from the cd already...all looks ok
run != install
fragalot:from a terminal ?
piasdom: that was not a command :p
what will that do ?
that's insane. 30 bytes?
How do you deal with incoming packets? the MTU is ~1500 bytes
that's 30 bytes of internal storage
ie, other than the packets
alex_joni: yes, it lacks it
alex_joni: hm, still cant find it in machinist's toolbox
a literal toolbox? or some sort of software?
[14:19:05] <skunkworks> http://www.machinist-toolbox.com/
[14:19:08] <anonimasu> http://www.machinist-toolbox.com/
oh - 'in machinist's toolbox' Sorry - late night election camp fire.
[14:21:35] <anonimasu> http://www.coromant.sandvik.com/sandvik/0110/Internet/I-Kit1/se02673.nsf/Alldocs/Information*Material*2ADownload*catalogues
* anonimasu likes the idea of wiper inserts
ah technical reference :) /me wonders how many of us are downloading at the same time
it's lots about turning and surface finishes and stuff
I think thats what I have at home, but an older version
* archivist updates :)
with docs like that one likes to use the inserts
I wonder if I should do some 3d contouring someday soon
I have this press form I need to make
What's an semi-common material that can take direct heat, doens't outgas, and can be machined fairly well?
direct heat being somewhat fire proof (if possible) or around 400F
maybe even 300F
fenn: does it come in sheet form?
$ or $$$$$$$$$
how about mild steel?
what are you trying to make?
BigJohnT: A heater for cockatiels
I have NiChrome wire already
so, add chemical corrosive to that list
cooker at that temp
archivist: the temp is a fire-prevention thing
jymmm why not just get an aquarium heater?
fenn: they are plastic, and Tiels LOVE to chew plastic
do they like to tear stuff up
get a glass one
BigJohnT: Oh yeah
done correctly the wire will heat sink to plate temp and never get above warm
fenn: No, this ifor the floor under their big cage
jymm: embed it in concrete
fenn: I considered that, but rather use a bit lighter material, maybe terracota, plaster, etc
something that radiates better
add black concrete dye :)
graphite is pretty hheap
but I guess that depends on grade.
graphite is very conductive
I have nfc what concrete is going to hold up in a thn <1" thinkness
SWPadnos: I forgot about that part =)
me too, when I was making the balloon poppers :)
i lo0oed for low temp devicesto heat seed sprouting, best i found was just lo watt light bulbs under a box
SWPadnos: Ah, =)
tomp: Problem is no place to put it safely
graphite 25c/lb for 'house' grade
tomp: conductive =)
12" or 16" Ceramic Floor tile sandwiched together
yes, with the wire looped around in between
low volt transformer and lots amps and run current through cage wires
electric stove element between two tiles
even if the wire melts, the heat transfer rate of the tiles would prevent it from getting too hot
(unless it's red hot for a long time first)
floor radiators? copper tubes in concrete? the technology is off the shelf with closed loop temp control
fenn: I have aorund 400K feet of NiChrome
Jymm would it be easier to just freeze dry it?
oh. send me some
BigJohnT: freeze dry what exactly?
*sigh - rolls eyes*
i like stove elements, mega watt , lo inductance, lo ohm & cheap
fenn: I have from 18Ga to 40Ga NiChr =)
ok maybe a bit ahead of the schedule
jymmm perhaps you should look into microkeratomy/brain digitizing, you know, so you can upload your birds into cyberspace and just run them on an embedded processor
how do zoos ( avi-whatevers) do it?
fenn: What are you talking about?! They EACH have their own website and blog
get a cat, they have something to catch and eat , saves cage building
then get a dog, to eat the cat
ot: haha, freshmeat lists a chinese version of scrabble. chinese is not alphabetic or phonetic, it cant work. chinese is pictographic. one character = one word.
maybe you have to make sentences ;)
that little pecker
no wonder why you can't type
"The building of words is not based on letters, but radicals instead."
fenn: They have their own computer and everything
jymm are you really a bird?
SWPadnos: Nah, I couldn't type for crap way before them
oh. like me then
ah radicals makes sense, even chinese wont know how to play it tho, only westerners know the chars are made of 'parts'
BigJohnT: SQUAWK what SQUAWK
I can type 80 words a min if I can remember to hit the space bar but it doesn't make any sense
does it roam your place? i always wanted a greenhouse house with plants and animals.
BigJohnT: learn thai, phonetic but no spacesinbetweenwrods
that took 6 tries to quit hitting the spacebar
I can type 80 WPM also
* archivist spots atyop in the middle
at least, I think most of the letter combinations are words
in some language
yea like farfrompooping
that is some german word i think
Alex your missing all the fun
our perl factoid from #mysql
the nice thing about perl is you can just slam your fists at the keyboard at couple of times, and you have something that runs and does something, you just wont know what and the maintenance of it will be impossible
the german word farfellnoogie is rubbing the head of the nestle's quick dog
VW used "farfegnugen" or something that sounds like it
Oh, any thought on "chew-proof" sleeving for the power cord (18ga lamp zip cord)? REAL armor cable, like on pay phones, is too expensive, and 1/2" flexable conduit is just too bulky/ugly
how long do you want the cord to be?
does it have to be flexible?
Can NOT be zinc plated, roughly 6ft or less
nail it to the perch so it cant reac the power cord
I'd just get the right length of armor cable from Home Depot/Lowe's
come from under the cage with your power cord
they don't stay in the cage
fenn: would prefer it to be so it can be moved, cleaned, etc
yah i make farfenugen joke, too obscure
3/8 flex is not too ugly
BigJohnT: Isn't it zinc coated?
you can get it in aluminum
has the wires all ready in it
BigJohnT: Never seen it in al, can it be terminated easily?
BigJohnT: Really? got pic?
it's a PITA, but you can run the armor diredtly into an industrial NEMA-style round plug I think
yes, we used to use it to wire up light fixtures in suspended ceilings
that's the stuff they have at HD/Lowes
they make connectors for the flex
SWPadnos: I never seen the stuff like on pay phones in HD/Lowes
it's not quite that flexible
something like this but without the plastic coating http://www.networkcablingmag.ca/images/stories/2008/NCMayJune2008/hcm24strandarmouredfiber.jpg
fenn: Heh, I JSUT saw this... http://www.offshore-technology.com/contractor_images/rock/rock3.jpg
but still no clue where to get it locally
73145K1 at mcmaster carr .50 a foot
fenn: The plastic coating is fine, easier to clean, just need to terminated between sandwiches floor tiles is all
i thought plastic was chewable
look at medical and at food supply electrics ( hose down water tight, food safe )
fenn: Sure, but the main idea is not to electrocute themselves
oh, expect expensive for that stuff
i wonder what this is for http://www.coloradowireandcable.com/images/coreshot.jpg
liquid-cooled high power stuff maybe?
why do the birds get near the electrical fittings? design that out, transmit warm air.
they don't stay in the cage, so any wire anywhere is a target
Ironically, I found an electric dog water bowl at walmart years ago.... It was for outdoor use to prevent the water from freezing. They put a 6ft long coiled spring around the electrical cable
tomp: This are free range Tiels =)
tomp: These are free range Tiels =)
ok, so i'm in an airport, most recepticles are 1) few 2) no cords at all, cords are temporary and watched
tomp: this is primarily for night time use
simple, just move into an airport
like dog water bowl is a oil pan heater available at farm supplies.
I hear free range tastes better
That would be expensive.... $100 each for the HLS express pass
i'd like free roamin birds at airport :)
Hmmm, maybe I'll hit the local electrical supply after work and see what they have in stock.
we get short lenghts of flex amoured cable at the local scrap yord
* BigJohnT off to deliver a machine to the customer bbl
archivist: we dont have many industrial scrap yards around here, just metal recycling, and not that much of a selection.
I wont move over there then
archivist: Though, we have crap loads of electronic/computer surplus
I would be in those every week
* archivist checks logic analyser on fleabay
that reminded me
all right. I gave away my minivan today. woohoo!
I have 2 vans available both without MOT
the guy drove this one away ;)
and scrap price has dropped :(
yeah, I think I would have gotten $100 for it from the scrapyard
better to give it to someone who can put it to good use, and who needs it
I would like a few pennies to put towards toys like a logic analyser
I need a faster one
looking at a 1670G
technically I sold the van, so I should go spend the dollar on (most of) a cup of coffee :)
nice analyzer, but could be a little slow if you want to do ARM stuff any time soon (ie, before replacing it)
but sitting at £102 at the moment
oh, then an excellent deal
I doubt it will stay that cheap
well I don't have a tractor trailer to move a bigger one
or a place to put it ;)
been watching this for a month or two slowly dropping in price http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270297990381
hmmm. yeah, 8.2kW. I think that's about the total service to my house
(actually, it's the total for the sub-panel I put in the garage, but who's counting)
dont have to run full power cuts :)
oh come on, what's the point then? :)
neighbours may complain of lights dimming
8kw cuts are heavy cuts.
production cuts ;)
"I think there is a board in the back that is problematic."
spindle on that was 5.2KW
I wonder where the other 3kW goes
big servos I guess
we have one of them but HNC version did have fanuc control, waiting to be upgraded to EMC
1kw each for the servos then 1kw for the control -_-
hmm metal removal.....
how about this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360095752564
thats upsetting... cant have
it only costs twice as much as my house
aah only pocket money :)
(assuming a little bit for shipping)
[18:55:34] <SWPadnos> http://cgi.ebay.com/Denford-NovaTurn-CNC-lathe-Great-condition-many-extras_W0QQitemZ110306094238QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Lathes?hash=item110306094238&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1208%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
of course the reality is that this little Denford would do 99% of what I'd want to do also
ok, food time, bbl
jepler:i reinstallled ubuntu and couldn't get internet and my mouse took about 2 or 3 seconds to go across screen...
back in debian sarge
piasdom: you fail linux 101
piasdom: taking what you say at face value, it's clear that there's something wrong. but I remain at a loss to help troubleshoot it.
how do i shot web
also ubuntu was way slow for me, as well, but not that slow
piasdom, two questions: 1; did you use the same CD as before (1a; did you run the media check first?) and 2) how did you reinstall - specifically did you install over a previous installation or did you use the whole hard disk?
(and yes, people are allowed one reference to the Monty Python "Spanish Inquisition" sketch)
jepler:used the cd i downloaded just before install
jepler:formated the whole disk
jepler:didn't run media check
what are the specs of the PC you're using (CPU, memory ...)
jepler:sherline comp....added 2gig(had 256)
jepler:not sure of processor
that says nothing, Sherline has been selling computers for about 10 years, and I'm willing to bet they're not all the same
jepler:anyway to check ?
are you talking to me?
and they're not much help
the motherboard is k8m800 micro am2
I have had mouse slowness as well, I reboot buntu to fix (make sure mouse is connected during boot)
Im connected via kvm switch hence mouse/driver gets confused
archivist:my mouse is wireless and din't have trouble before
works great now
mine is wireless
archivist:i rebooted a number of time and reinstalled three time hoping it was something i did wrong
been fighting this all day
have u checked to see if the CPU is being used by anything to make the system slow? run top from command or something, or is it just the mouse sorry to join half way in
"works great now"!="been fighting this all day" you give us mixed messages, its hard for us to understand your problems
roberth:np...just me use this comp
archivist:i'm in debian now,not ubuntu
piasdom, please run the media check on the Ubuntu CD. You do that by selecting "media check" from the boot menu when you boot from the liveCD
SWPadnos:ok.....i WILL get back to ubuntu...jst can't have the machine down so long
you can test the CD on any PC
SWPadnos:but i will run the check
piasdom, where are you from/ what is your spoken language
though doing it on the one that you're having problems with will also check the drive somewhat, so it's good to use that machine
SWPadnos:didn't hink of that...only have this one..
i'll do that now....brb
archivist: looks like his IP address is allocated to Louisiana, USA
is it a language problem or !
clearly there's something weird going on
but if what I'm hearing is accurate (live cd works fine, installed version does some different freaky thing each installation) I just can't make any sense out of it
* archivist not sure which side of the chair though
slow mouse is just a probe/boot and confusion in the driver
hnmmmm he mentioned having 2GB RAM, but I think at least one release of the 8.04 live cd had a problem on some >1GB memory systems. but that should be the same on CD or installed...
suggest booting with mem=800M on grub kernel commandline..
I had a partition size problem with mine on install due to old hardware
[21:26:55] <jepler> http://www.myspace.com/piasdom
yep must be the guy
(been busy reworking the rest of the circuit on paper a bit first, just not too sure about those 2 resistor values)
ooh a change of subject!
something from next door a while ago
jepler: yes plz ;)
archivist: i'm having something worse than a slow mouse here in windows, lol. tablet, with the tip responding about a second too late. >.> stupid cheap wacom
fragalot: it seems you could buffer the voltage from the "dc offset" pot to avoid worrying about the effect of the resistive divider on the output voltage
fragalot: but I'm not sure if that's your question or not
fragalot, I might change to inverting if it was mine
I don't think that will give you a DC offset, it shuold change the scaling away from 1:1
SWPadnos: Yeah, thats what i was thinking, hence asking about on IRC :/
asking in #electronics might be better :)
or maybe it's ##electronics
I dislike that channel for some reason.
never go there myself
it has a few odd ones in there!
SWPadnos:no errors found
ok. that's good
unfortunately, I don't understand how you can have so many problems installing :)
i'm going to try again in the mornin
just so wer
SWPadnos:in the setup there's an option to transfer setting from windows...is that good to do ?
I'd say no, but I've never seen the option so I don't know what it does
SWPadnos:it give me the option to transfer my doc...wallpaper and internet explorer setting
If you install ubuntu as a dual boot on a windows machine - it senses that and askes if you want to transfer users over. I have never done that.
SWPadnos:i did sp this time i won't
SWPadnos:i did this time but i won't next
so you didn't reformat the disk, you installed to the existing partition
SWPadnos:have two disk...completely formated the disk with linux
SWPadnos:even erased the two partitions,then created two more
hmmm. try installing with only one hard disk connected (the one you want to install to)
don't create partitions yourself, select "use entire disk" or however they worded the option
SWPadnos:ok...i'll disconnect the other
SWPadnos:i did that first("use entire disk" but thought it may not have erased all of them
it should have
SWPadnos:i was just trying everyhing could think of
sampling rate of my sound card is 192kHz... Reckon that means it could be used as a scope up to 150kHz without too much issues? :p
well, you definitely should remove the Windows disk if you want to try *everything* :)
fragalot, no triggering options, and AC-coupled only
fragalot, nyquist sample /2 so about 80k
SWPadnos: not even for for general hobby stuff?
archivist: still more than I expected :p kewl
you can't trigger
you probably can capture a lot of information then analyze and display it though
well -- you should be able to continuously sample and then "trigger" in software
check the expected signal levels also, it's probably meant to take 700mV or 1V peak-peak
SWPadnos: well, i've seen the output of my computer at 5Vpp before, lol
y'know, if this turns out to be better than my 10MS digital scope, i'll cry
archivist: let me rephrase that
the digital scope has a crummy low resolution LCD display, can't do analog signals AT ALL, and it's even worse for digital signals
if it's a slow repetitive signal, it might be able to make something from it..
better off with an a/d on the parport
see.. I don't /HAVE A PARALLEL PORT/
* fragalot hates repeating that line :(
if you do a google search for "sound card scope", you'll get a lot of hits
(no quotes, you want the words, not the phrase)
SWPadnos: loads of hits, did a quick search arround, but only looked for apps, not technicalities
[21:55:43] <SWPadnos> http://linux-sound.org/scopes.html
well, i'm off...see ya'll in mornin.....take care and thanks for the help
dunno how many of those are not audio-related though :)
I planned on using "Oscilloscope"
I should fix my digital storage scope
but its antique, with a 68000 micro and 5v peak input
so, its my first time using emc and I'm trying to use the stepconf wizard but I'm getting an error
what is the error?
File "/usr/bin/stepconf", line 1372, in update_axis_params
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
does the latency test run? does emc run if you choose the sample configuration sim/axis?
let me check
SWPadnos: I just played about with a soundcard func gen with my headset, and woke my parents
hold on brb
ok, I solved the first problem and I'm able to make it through the stepconf wizard but I cant load emc with my configuration
also the /sim/axis config wont load
what system are you running on?
then you're on your own at the moment ;)
the precompiled emc2 packages are not for 8.10. they are for 6.06 and 8.04.
see the top of htp://wiki.linuxcnc.org/
ok then, off to install 8.04