I may have asked this before, but is there a place online that sells cheaply the bits that go in a lathe?
The cutting thingies.
Also, are you supposed to grind these yourselves, or are they pre-ground?
you can buy pre-ground carbide bits, but it's better to get HSS blanks and grind them
Where should I buy these?
And ccan you re-grind them or does the tempering go after a while?
you can buy them from msc
well, supposedly you can grind HSS red hot and not affect the temper, but i try not to do that
and the temper stays unless you burn them
then you have to grind out the discoloration
don't put water on it when you grind at least
enco had bits on sale, lemme see
what size shank?
hm anyway this should be about right: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=383-5224&PMPXNO=942328&PARTPG=INLMK32
That's pleasantly cheap.
you need to know what size, though
They're all pretty cheap.
indeed, but you don't want to buy a 3/8" shank the toolpost would most enjoy a 3/4"
and the inverse, as well
I'll vheck it out before ordering.
muriatic acid dip gets rid of the burn marks in HSS
who cares what it looks like
fenn: first thing I had to do was convert cxf2cnc to inches :-)
gr, wrong channel
hello, I am a first time user and I am having difficulty getting EMC to run on my computer. I have an error file that EMC generated - is there anyone I can send it to that may be able to look at it and help me out ? This is the 3rd computer that I've tried to run EMC on and it always kicks me out after I select the generic PWM seletion.
i'm trying to set my resolution(again)..when i run displayconfig-gtk...it doesn't save my changes
and when it starts..i get fatal: Module battery not found
probably #ubuntu is better for operating system problems
I use the menu programs to set resolution etc
that just gives me two options...640x480 and 1280x1024
it's set at 1280 and it's look like 640
i have to move my cursor to the edge of the screen to move the desktop
then it is not set to 1280
or desktop is set larger
do you know why in the terminal after i start displayconfig...i get 'fatal:module battery not found' ?
desktop larger ? ...can i change that /
like I said I use the graphic setup not the ones in terminal
i don't see an option to change the desktop
often in Linux systems its not a good idea to use multiple setup systems, they conflict
ohoh...so i have multiple setups ?
you're saying terminal and preferances
no what Im saying that, terminal v graphics setup program
battery is part of acpi maybe you have an app witch use it
don't know acpi
and rtai kernel doesn't have acpi
how do i get out of this acpi ?(don't know if i do have)
i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and been having these problems
ubuntu 8.04 from the emc live cd ?
whenever i go to system,preferences,screensaver i get logged off
in a terninal ?
archivist..i appreciate your help
ubuntu 8.04 from the emc live cd ?
xchat is not installed
you can get acpi by running an official kernel
don't know how
xchat can also have your favourite channels and sign on for you
piasdom: teh battery message you can disregard
it's not important
piasdom: can you say again what the problem is?
* alex_joni wasn't following..
his desktop size and screen resolution
archivist: I'd rather he says it :)
my desktop is bigger then my screen
i have to move the curor to the egde to move the desktop
and running displayconfig doesn't get saved
you can try xrandr in a term
archivist:thanks for xghat
i don't have time to explain it, I must go to the university
piasdom: any ideas what the sizes are?
it's says 1280x1024 current after running xrandr
ok, so probably it didn't detect your monitor as 1280x1024
deafult connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
did you install using another monitor?
nothing changed but the new install
try pressing ctrl+alt+'+'
(if that gives you an odd resolution, hit it again until you are at a proper one)
doesn't do anything
try going to : system->Preferences->Screen resolution
when i do that...i get logged off
kicks me right out
kick out of what
yea...scared the h*** out of me the first time :)
have to login again
closes the session
sesssion of what
and the login screen is too big and i can't move it..i just type my name and pass
everything shuts down
an di get a login screen
X shutting down?
all i know is i login and nothing is running
think i should try dl'ing another copy of ubuntu ?
hmm google that symptom
how can i find what i'm running ....edgy?
that is odd.. never seen that
it must me me :)
I can't imagine what you can do wrong to cause that :)
so i'm using hardy ?
thought i found it
you're using Ubuntu hardy heron 8.04
but some comment that is true in edgy might apply
that's the lastest stable ?
although in ubuntu it's not called stable
debian has names like stable, testing ...
(Ubuntu is derived from Debian, so the solutions you find might just work)
i'm thinking of try to dl another copy and try again
won't help much I bet
this ain't windows.. if it doesn't work teh first time, there is no reason for it to work the second time
or after a reboot for that matter
try following these advices: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=817142
back up any valuable stuff first
and also read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
is there any difference between hardy and drake ?
i ran stepconf and think i got the mill working right.when i start mymill i get an error listed at http://paste.org/index.php?id=4043
49 pages :(
I think you have done the install twice
it's complaining about duplicate files
oh...where are the mymill files...i'll go delete
stop stepconf before running axis
no not running now
where does it store the mymill file ?
i did go thru the conf a number of time...don't it overwrite ?
I dont expect a problem with them
let me try a reboot
need to anyway
nooo reboot is for windaz
but i did an update and it says i need reboot
ubuntu is just as windowsy as.. windows
my systems only reboot if i get a new kernel :o
don't see much diff...except for the terminal stuff
what do you have ?
same as you, probably
well,brb and thanks
there was a kernel update yesterday (/me not rebooted yet)
obviously, you reboot whenever you want to
not often :)
omg I can't believe I forgot to pick up a parallel cable
after i rebooted,i got into axis...when i turn it on i get joint 0 and joint2 om limit switch error...what's that?
piasdom: do yo have limit switches?
then you need to disable limit switches
and it's on 0 and 2 not 1(guessing 1 is y)
in stepconf ?
if there's such a option es
( I never used stepconf)
thanks...don't remember one but will look
no option to set limit switch...where do you set limit anonimasu ?
there is - set the pins that are limit switches to not connected (or whatever the optoin is)
in what ?
stepconf I assume he's talking about
it's not in stepconf that i can see
Who needs limit switches anyway. *cough*
i don't have any
My rig won't have any mainly because it's not strong enough to do any damage anyhow :p
that, and I have lots of play in the work area
i looked at emc status and it shows limit at 3 0 3
piasdom, input/output settings are on the page titled "Parallel Port Setup"
in stepconf ?
If your machine doesn't have something (like limit or home switches), then make sure that no inputs are configured for those functions
stepconf helps you to set up configurations fro simple machines, EMC2 is what runs the machine. they're different programs, used at different times
whenever we talk about setup, we're talking about stepconf (or a text editor) to manage the configuration of EMC2
regarding some of the other questions you've had (on the user list):
1) there's only one scale variable in stepgen-created configurations (called SCALE)
no INPUT_SCALE or OUTPUT_SCALE
the number used is calculated from information you enter into stepconf, such as gear ratios, screw thread pitch, and microstepping settings on your motor driver
i'm in stepconf now and looking at port setup
SWPadnos: since you have all the answers: why isn't there anything good on tv?
2) stepconf will not create a configuration for you out of thin air - it knows nothing about your hardware. you have to enter accurate and meaningful data to get a usable config
do i change the direction of x and z ?
piasdom: do you see something about "limit switches" ?
if so, set those to "not connected"é
hold on, lemme power my machine up
fragalot, because of the consolidation of ownership of the multitude of stations, and a desire by the ruling class to provide us with "bread and circuses" so we don't notice we're being drived to our doom
pins 1 to 15
SWPadnos: my god, you really DO have all the answers >.>
piasdom, you only need to change the direction if the axes move in the wrong direction
What is my purpose in life?
and don't you dare to say "42"
* anonimasu nods
i do have both limit and home xyza
nah.. that's the answer to life, the universe and everything
err, I mean, to invent a flying car that uses clean antigravity technology
a single person don't count
piasdom: That's the one
* fragalot powers his machine down again >.>
I should probably hook a mouse up to make m y life easier :p
it doesn't halt on it's own
and if i push the power button, it keeps on blinking till I either reset it, or pull the plug
piasdom, the thing that may be a confusion here is that stepconf is not telling you about your machine, it's asking you about it, but has some defaults entered already
you can keep the button pushed for 4s to power it down
you have to change those defaults to match your setup
all of them
alex_joni: thats what I'm doing >.>
fragalot: the RT kernel has ACPI disabled
which thus disables the nice shutdown
atm i'm powering it down nicely, and then holding the button.
well.. the alternative is probably missing steps during running the machine
hm, compile acpi as module ;)
SWPadnos: ok . i need to find out what the pins are doing
and insert when you are shutting down :p
anonimasu: not an option
alex_joni: why not?
some ACPI parts can't be compiled as a module
you need to have them in the kernel to load other ACPI modules
I wonder if you can call the ACPI shutdown thing somehow anyway
you could short certain pins of the cpu at specific times by hand..
but it's tricky to do that fast enough
needs to be just right, y'know...
that's like intecepting electrons you dont want on the bus..
[18:16:16] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/ampmessagain.jpg
skunkworks: the motor shaft should be blurry in the picture
alex_joni: why should it?
if it's not blurry, it's because it's perfectly aligned. :p
you can see the red led is lit. (disabled)
my scope can't measure the steps,.. 'cos it's lame.
or maybe it isn't that clear ;)
it's a handheld digital scope with only one input. Need I say more?
or is that 1 working input?
it's from velleman
[18:23:34] <fragalot> http://omploader.org/vbXg1
oh. cool looking unit (slow but cool :) )
looks aren't everything, sadly
depends what your plans with it are
I found out that i can't do anything with it if it goes above 5kHz
it's plenty for looking at a single parport pin, for example :)
and it's fairly useless for analog signals.
SWPadnos: no,.. it's not.
it shows approx 1 spike, 1 px wide,.. every 20 seconds or so..
oh, is the triggering not so good?
I wish i had kept my money and bought a used analog scope
SWPadnos: it's digital,.. slow sampling rate
10 MHz is fast enough for a parport, in theory (the parport can't change mor ethan ~1 million times a second)
SWPadnos: no, it's 2Mhz
2 MHz bandwidth, 10MSPS
still enough (in theory) for a 500 kHz signal
think i got something, but when i run a program.it says it will exceed limits x.25 y.125 these are correct
Those are soft limits
piasdom, what travel limits did you set in stepconf?
not limits...actual movements
piasdom: you probably didn't home and the limits are set wrong
SWPadnos: Well, I haven't managed to make it display the step output when jogging /VERY SLOWLY/
on each axis page is a pair of entry boxes where you enter the minimum and maximum travel extents
it could use a higher resolution display too...
x is 8 y is 4 z is 4
but y could b4 5
let me go look
we tested one of these before: http://www.ece.ndsu.nodak.edu/ece/academics/courses/ece375/notes/alp/b-user-g.htm
it was pretty neat
I bet, it sure looks nice
even the display looks ok
it was OK, but not much better
it's handheld, can't expect the same quality as you get from an analog HAMEG....
it was meant as a bridge device between a logic probe and a scope, and it fit there pretty well
Hameg isn't exactly the paragon of quality, IMO
maybe good for the money though
chauvin arnoux ftw
SWPadnos: I'm quite fond of them in school
I'm sure they work
Quite well :p
they are neat too. FLUKE also..
my needs are sometimes - a bit needier :)
fluke is quite nice indeed
but damn expensive if one of the fuses blow :p
less than if there were no fuses
(somebody in my class managed to blow one on a .1pA signal... couldn't even measure it..)
cool - a color scopemeter
hmmm what's the isolation on that thing?
I would probably buy this if it weren't so damn expensive
[18:34:50] <alex_joni> http://www.chauvin-arnoux.com/produit/Famille_detail.asp?idFam=1873&idPole=1
4 channel 100MHz isolated
'To request a price quotation, you need to sign in. Then indicate the desired quantity of products ...'
I'm trying to see what the isolation rating is
it's about 5k EUR, so maybe 8-9k USD
you can really count occills with that
4 isolated measurement channels, 600V, Cat. III
600V is rated working voltage
hmmm. looks like it's maybe 1000V isolation. bummer
SWPadnos: need more?
it would probably be nice for jmk, or for low power supplies
can ya'll look at this http://paste.org/index.php?id=4044
6500A - that would work for most supplies also
in the HAL config, I see that the "Dir" on pin-02-out is IN.. it is configured as Xdir
is that normal? :p
it's an input from the HAL perspective, since it outputs to a physical pin
input to the driver
SWPadnos: HX0027 probe: 1/1000 ratio 30MHz 20kV-Cat.II
would that suffice?
well, I'm not sure if my client will be buying a lot of test equipment at the moment ;)
but it probably would
might probably be way cheaper to buy a proper probe, than a 20kV rated scope
Sigh, I really can NOT measure the spikes of the Xstep
Xdir works, so it's not my fault :p
SWPadnos: i the output(mill to pc) the limit switch ?
i - is
SWPadnos: Can I easilly make it output wider pulses?
what do you mean by output (mill to pc)
fragalot: you need to change step time
that's what in the stepconf at http://paste.org/index.php?id=4044
fragalot, sure, make the step time larger
I don't see any stepconf there, I only see a list of pins
i changed all those to unused
that looks ok
piasdom: looks ok now
do you actually have spindle control hardware?
i type all the pin that are in my stepconf
no i don't
then put 14 & 16 to unused
then I'd turn off the spindle cw and spindle PWM pins
do you have an A axis?
ok to both :)
right, and disable spindle control (a couple pagesearlier in stepconf I think)
ok, then turn off a direction and a step
right, and change the selection to a 3-axis mill, not a 4-axis (XYZA) machine
it is set to three axis
I doubt it lets you select a direction and a step if it's set to 3 axis
make that "A direction and A step"
SWPadnos: Sweet. I changed the max freq. to 16kHz, and now i can see /THREE/ small spikes popping up at random positions on my scope. >.>
decrease the time per division
that's what i have...chose ate start page
ok - it probably doesn't limit selections based on that, it just changes the axis configuration pages you'll see
and what is include custom PyVCP panel ?
SWPadnos: that's the best i can get out of this lil' scope, :p at ANY time scale, or v/div
you can make windows with controls and indicators, that option will include some stuff to make it easier
so use it ?
piasdom: nothing except the file
SWPadnos: Perhaps I should make a lil' soundcard based scope,... I bet it's more usefull than this thing :p
[18:51:03] <alex_joni> http://pastebin.ca/1228657
piasdom: don't use it for now
later when you are acustomed to working with emc2 you can explore further options
what alex_joni said
yes... i just need this to work
* BigJohnT wonders how to drink a grape slush without getting a brain freeze or a purple tongue???
BigJohnT: put it in the microwave for 7 seconds
that stops the purple tongue?
a straw can
only if you can put the tongue in the microwave for 7 seconds
do you have to put your whole head in the microwave?
only the tongue
tried that but the door switch would not let it run
stupid scope, why did I ever buy this
180 euro down the drain :(
BigJohnT: obviously you need to close the door
you would have lost more if you paid dollars :O
that hurt when I tried that
BigJohnT: it's because you did it wrong
if you do it just right, you won't feel a thing because you're in shock?
that's what I was thinking
how about letting it warm up to room temp, and then snorting it?
Gotta love this.
UPS WORLDWIDE $115.95
Total for order is $177.90
now i get linear move on line 5 will exceed limits ... line 5 > g81 f4 x.25 y.1 r.05 z-.03<
and in stepconf, do i use a neg number when setting the distant travel on z ?
how much travel do you have on your Z axis
but i'm using 4.5"
which linear movement is it's talking about ?
the limits should go from minimum to maximum. if you want the middle of the table to be 0, then on X (for exampke), you'd enter -4 for minimum and 4 for maximum
that's for 8" of travel
ok i get that
yes, he said it's 8x4x4 travels
it should say something about axis then a number, 2 is usually the Z
let me set it ti the middle :)
you may want the soft limits to be a little less than the physical limits
it does BigJohn
i'll go .5" shorter
makes sense :)
not it's saying i'll exceed all my limits from x0y0z0
no no, yo uset the limits OUTSIDE of the physical limits,... otherwise it's no fun. ^_^
I'll shut up now.
even i know better
but that's all i know
well,thanks for all ya'll help...i really appreciate it THANKS
sure. how's it working now?
Why is there still nothing on tv?
I wonder if there will be good sales on HDTVs due to the economic slowdown
dno, I just know that i paid a lot for mine, but it's a damn good piece of machinery
good night all
32" panasonic viera, 1200euro
fragalot: what resolution?
see ya Alex
if it's anything below 1900x1080 .. I wouldn't buy it :)
that's a hell of a lot for a 32" (here anyway)
there are good (not necessarily great) 1080p 37" LCDs here for $700
and very very nice 60-75" rear projection DLPs (also 1080p) for $1800-$2500
SWPadnos: note; it's nearly a year old now
oh, that explains it
I recently even found out it runs linux, lol
cool. that's gotta be worth something
have you gotten the wource?
:D I was browsing the menu,.. found the GPL license in there
investigated a bit, and yes, the source is publicly available xD
interesting. I wonder if the mythTV or v4l writers know about it
lol, it's still an expensive tv
it's currently at 990 euro
46" at $1397
the 32" LCD is $550 or so
oh - $950 for the 1080p version
you get what you pay for (altho the difference is often not noticeable)
yeah, this is a 1080p tv
is yours LCD or plasma?
cool - less power and longer life anyway
[19:42:23] <fragalot> http://am-linux.jp/dl/EUIDTV5
^ sourcecode :p
Shame that i can't find the actually applications that RUN on am-linux
my english is starting to suck, perhaps i should go do bed :/
bye. bed to you go now
hi all, i tryed to sign up to the EMC mailing list but i have never recvied an email to confirm my signup or anything else, followed link on EMC contact page for sign up any ideas?
how long ago did you do this?
today, but i had also done it month or so back also never recvied anything then
hmm. do you have any spam software that might trap the messages?
exactly what email address did you give? I can look and see whether it's subscribed.
email@example.com also tryed to use firstname.lastname@example.org so i could better filter mailing stuff into a folder
emc-users or one of the other lists?
spam box is empty
nope, it goes from roba... to rod..., no robert@...
same for the other one - there are plenty of emc@, but not yours
let me see if I can find a sourceforge contact address so you can ask for help
this correct page right, https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
thats odd, ok, i used the .com domain and it came stright throught, where .co.uk ( i own both domains) did not work
looks like this is how you can ask them for help: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001
email@example.com, ctladdr=chris (1
001/1001), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30329, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=
2.0.0, stat=Sent (m9GK8ECh084915 Message accepted for delivery)
no problem sending you mail from here
but I'm unrelated to SF of course
yea, good old SF o well im signed up now on .com
thx for ur helpin out
do you have a POSTMASTER account for the .co.uk domain?
ok, sorry, that's probably the extent of what I can do to help
co.uk is all worded into the .com postmaster i belive
both fully reg domains
there has to be a postmaster account. I don't recall how it checks for that, but it's a basic anti-spambot technique
if you have it forwarded somewhere, that should work, but the adderss postmaster@eherever has to be valid
address, that is
uh - I should stop typoing
yes - I had the same problem recently. Added the postmaster account to my email domain and it started working.
the wunders of the modern internet
553 5.0.0 <>... User address required
I think this might be the problem
u got me
250 2.1.0 <>... Sender ok
250 2.1.5 postmaster... Recipient ok
sorry, I'm on drugs, I don't see any problem
not to worry
[20:29:42] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUmFKOVepYY
without the sound - you really couldn't tell what is going on ;)
yeah I bet
that is only 20v.
(actually my laptop power supply) ;o
(only thing I had here that put out almost 5 amps)
boy - emc2 and hal is neat
I'm sorry - am I preaching to the chior? ;)
I don't hear anything
Ave EMC2, Gratia plena, Dominus technum
i guess that should be EMC2/HAL
spastic_teapot is now known as spasticteapot
skunkworks very cool.. fets get warm?