now I have 4 axis, I really really really really really want 5 axis :)
when they all work it's the cutest dream on the planet...
we had a 7/9 axis boring mill THEY sold for 180,000 canadian
it had 2 pallets z1 and z2
nutating head from HELL and a few mor it would pick up.... it would do ok on r/h parts but most l/h parts went on NCR
I need to get an encoder on the spindle as well then its gear hobbing time
need very good torque/ brake to cut gears.... i think we wiped out a plc on our last gear cutting adveture... its good the next f18-ef cylinder has a scar
or rather autograph..
we call it antiqued
not to the US NAVY you dont...
we make our parts to look old for antique clocks
3/4 " ball nose ... dove in at feed and only stoped when the big RED mushroom was hit
WAS NOT PROGRAMMMED>>>> this is on a Dual Siemens 840 D.... WTF
just noticed your greeting :)
long time no talk to
it's expensive to connect in Europe
(at the Hiltons anyway)
world traveler and all
half of it only (so far :) )
what part of EU were you in?
Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, and Cologne (plus a little town on the Rhine)
I am a pretty extensive midwest USA traveler
I've been to Wichita!
taking advantage of the "special" services allowed substances in AMS? ;)
now you are talking
no, but my wife and I did wander around the red light district a couple of times
great food available there
why were you touring the stoplights?
isn't the inhalations of vapors from a certain fiberous plant allowed there?
well, you have to wait for them to change, you see
takes a while ;)
yes, it was a bit unavoidable while walking down the street
window shoopping is nice though
SWPadnos: I see you are on the brlcad room also
I don't say much there though
do you use it much?
or at all?
I attempted to for a little while (like 15 minutes) - it wasn't enough
it doesn't seem to be all that intuitive for me
It seems a little stilted at first glance.
if you are used to something like solidworks its a hard to use
I'm not exactly used to SolidWorks, but even old (old old) CadKey actually had a UI :)
I have Varimetrix VX - brlcad is different animal
haven't heard of Varimetrix
probably out of my price range ;)
that is doubtful
no pricing on their site ...
that's usually a good indicator that I can't afford it
here's what I have: http://www.cadmax.com/
as long as the company stays in business, I'll be happy
I think it is around $6000 US for the basic modeling package.
quite a difference in price
We bought this more than 10 years ago. It was the companion to our CAM package.
ok, $6k is in the same range as SolidWorks
It used to run on Linux but they removed those packages years ago
yes and similar capabilities
if you are used to Solidworks you will be better with Solidworks - same with VX
VX was much more capable than Solidworks but Solidworks has made a lot of progress in the last few years
brb - phone
does anyone here have a preference on web CMS systems
i want to start a webpage but I don't want a pure blog kind of thing
and I am afraid the static page stuff for wordpress/movable type won't scale over time
maybe it will and i'm just a nancy boy
toastydeath, I live more in #mysql than here and see the questions and comments about many of them
do you know of any packages that have really good static page support, for like howto-type articles?
i want to have a front blog/news page, but most of the tutorial stuff I want to do will be in static pages and I want to keep that managable over time
static? plain html
i'd like to keep it all in one package if possible
i.e. no plain html =)
drupal doesnt seem to get to much hate
but there are so many out there
i will check that one out
plain html is easy to deal with for static pages, pdf pages annoy me
yar, that sucks
search facilities of some of the systems seem broken they often come in #mysql and ask "how to speed up"
hahaha, that i am aware of
"why isn't this working"
meanwhile the server load is like 42.8
where field like '%blah%' cannot use an index
yeah i'm just looking for a quaint little blogging platform thing with an archive where I can put howtos, drupal seems good for that, and wordpress if I can't find anything else
some use a wiki
use a wiki that can be locked down
drupal takes it.
the example pages using it do exactly what i want to do
2 am and home time here
all I can guess is you should put it back however it started
axis useability problem, if you have multiple debug messages and need to stop, focus is stolen by message dialog box and main window loses focus, it even stops the esc key
it would probably be better if the messages went in a scrolled part of axis's main window
can also then see a history of values
[12:24:04] <skunkworks_> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=482614&postcount=42
skunkworks_: oh geez is that "poll" the gift that is still giving?
Oh! Wah! Dat guy is hot s&%t, 'eh!
heez a d00d!
[13:05:21] <skunkworks_> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50787
he has more than enough 'smarts' to make emc work.
instead - he converts it to servos and geckos.
actually, he makes some good points, and has one excellent observation (not about EMC, but about users)
"In this case, I'm a typical consumer, I want instant gratification or I just get frustrated and move on to something less frustrating."
that says a lot
and it's a common affliction
crap - that comes off bad.
how come posts sound worse after you post them? Just a bunch of stuck up emc users.
[14:29:25] <skunkworks_> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=482737&postcount=46
heh. that's why I haven't posted ;)
you have more self control ;)
I have more experience with "angry" emails ;)
I should have atleast said - 'nice machine' :)
oh well.. we don't need any more users - right?
I'll probably post with something that includes "where are your feature requests?"
nah - got enough
I had started the post with a large paragraph saying you could have had bla bla bla bla if you used emc.. and then toned it down. (just not enough)
it's fine. maybe a bit curt, but not inflammatory
is it bad if convincing every cnc hobbyist to use emc instead of mach is not an important goal to me? some of what he says is true. I would not be so bold to tell him that he made the wrong choice - clearly the choice he made is right for him.
I wonder why he didn't use his machine to cut his operator panel.
I don't think the machine is actually running yet.
but it's so simple!
Then any software should be good enough. Let's suggest pysol.
SWPadnos: shut up you
cradek_ is now known as cradek
I think if you come into a thread about emc and say that it is too hard to use (and being a mach user) you should be called - atleast a little bit.
granted - as SWPadnos said - I should have asked for a feature request list to be a bit more nice.
it is funny how every once in a while, some "expert" comes along with a detailed analysis of why EMC/EMC2 isn't good enough, but we've never heard of them, they've never asked for help or made any bug reports/feature requests, etc.
well, you can decide you don't like something, and also not be interested in helping improve it.
that is true
cradek: any new info on the lathe? Controller still not cooperating?
I hated my '01 mustang. I'd tell anyone it sucked if they asked. But I have no obligation to carefully get each of my complaints to Ford in the most useful format for them.
should I ? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200240773481&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
manual lathe? how does that work? ;)
skunkworks_: the control is sort of operational - I have not found the cause of the oscillation quiet yet, and it's been on hold a few days while I ordered a replacement coupler for the feedback module (I broke it)
it should be here today...
neat. so you think it is not the tach/belt/whatever you have found so far?
archivist_ub, Those are nice second op lathes for small parts.
skunkworks_: not sure. I think there's probably more than one problem. I have fixed at one of them so far.
rayh: contemplating for a cnc conversion
now that that one is fixed [loose pulley on the motor shaft] I need to start over with my systematic troubleshooting steps again
I might be a emc vigilante. I sneak into peoples shops and replace mach with emc. Faster than a speeding blue screen.. stronger than a...
... USB cable?
skunkworks_: I'm already doing the tooling search for it... it didn't come with much.
I hope to find a 4 and maybe also a 3 jaw that will fit it
also I don't know how to drill/tap with it yet - I might have to make some holders.
I would not do that cnc conversion. But then that is here in the states.
They are much more expensive than dead cnc lathes
haven't seen a dead cnc yet
If you can get it for the current bit then go for it.
price is about right but its a long way from here
archivist_ub: it sure is a big relief to have a machine with ballscrews and servos to start with. I'd hate to have to do all that work.
cradek I sent you a couple papers on tool holders also.
rayh: that's great, thanks
They show a couple dozen different kinds of holders to slide in the slots.
rayh: I have a nice piece of 2"x4"x6' CRS. maybe I can make some if I can't find them.
You bet. I think some of the dimensions were listed.
there are quite a few on ebay, but so far I haven't seen anything for holding drills/taps
seems like an ERxx collet holder would be a nice hack.
(but then I have to get yet another set of collets!)
since my ER40 would be way way too big
They made a collet system
cradek: you have a nice machine shop now.. You can make a lot of your own tooling :)
mib_13x9f5 is now known as maddash
iv got an issue with the keystick thingie
oo a ukean
can start it once
and it runs ok
close emc and try restart with keystick and it just exits
but all the others (axis tk mini ect) work ok
how are you running it?
(icon, menu, terminal ...)
tryed it both icon and terminal
on 2 different computers
and even the live CD
ok - any messages on the terminal or in dmesg when you try to restart it?
heh - those may be helpful ;)
just the normal emc starting, emc cleaning up and closing
just figured the keystick setup would be nice to check on the machine via remote access
yep - should be ;)
keystick is probably the least maintained UI though, so some bitrot could have set in
hardware neural network
unfortunately, it seems to work on sim, which is all I have available at the moment
i was only testing it under sim
ah well im not overly concerned
im prolly gonna run axis anyway
someone want to take guess on how john made these clear areas within the polygon? http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servostart/howtheheck.PNG
skunkworks, either clearance on the pad or just draw (depends on software)
it shouldn't be pad clearance - the pads are oval and the cutouts are rectangular
is it multiple polygons?
right - but there doesn't seem to be anything there.. (like a box)
no problem doing rectangular clearances
it isn't symetrical though.. (I went thru the clearences and such) I might just have to ask him
are there keepouts in Eagle?
some you just draw a clearance of arbitary shape and it becomes part of the plane entity
I will have to look
I don't think it is clearence because the top now is not attached to the pin and it just has the normal space around it hugging the pad
the Ubuntu Eagle package appears to have some issues: http://cncgear.com/images/screwed%20EAGLE.png
that's with 4.16 light
you can use a 'rect' and maybe a 'poly' in the bRestrict plane to keep a polygon from filling that area
Heh - I am running 5.1.0 light
SWPadnos: that looks a bit odd
at least it knows enough to ask for help
I use whatever package is available in 8.06/multiverse and I haven't seen that behavior
this si on 7.10
I'll stay on 4.x forever because the license I bought apparently won't work with 5.x
there are "negative polygons" - the cutouts could be separate polygons that are subtracted
I stay on PCAD and DOS for ever for a similar reason
I would believe that if I could actually 'click' on the cleared boarder..
There just doesn't seem to be anything there.
skunkworks_: make sure that the bRestrict layer is actually turned on for display
you don't see it until you run the ratsnest.
they become part of the poly
delete in that clear area and it should fill (PCAD does)
actually, "forever" is until I finally make myself learn to use one of the Free schematic/board capture softwares
jepler, Ive had a go with kicad this year
jepler: that was it.. thanks
archivist_ub: I recently tried it too .. I let myself get frustrated, though.
heh yes years of something better colours ones judgement
well - that is just flippin cool
I think in a few years I could be an eagle expert :)
and how many years to be a pcb designer :)
* skunkworks_ giggles at colours
oh - that I can just wing most of the time..
technically - that was my vocation
just hasn't been used for 'gasp' 15 years
Im out of practice as well at the moment, started with tape ups