he was at the fest?
damn. missed another one
or did I meet him?
dunno. his name is Phil
how close to Stevens Creek are you?
never heard of it.. let me look
ummm - really... in WI?
I think that's what it's called anyway
I can't find it.. yahoo is finding me stevens creek road in long lake wi
oh - Stevens Point
that I have heard of
about 150 miles north east of here.
ok, so a ways away
east north east..
my wife will be there, and maybe me too, in early August
there's a recumbent bike rally
ah - you sure come to wisconsin a lot.. ;)
well, since her family is in Manitowoc and Ripon - yeah :)
[00:17:08] <SWPadnos> http://www.hostelshoppe.com/recumbent_rally.php
What is a "recumbent bike rally"
we just had s and s bike rally here their 50th. (in lacrosse)
it's a gathering of people who have or are interested in recumbent bikes
bikes that you sit like your in a recliner.. (seriously)
here's a cool one: http://www.flevobike.nl/content/view/16/79/lang,en/
I think that's the only bike I've seen with the chain internal to the frame
Hmm - and I'd be a pariah if I had one cause I'd just HAVE to mount a little 2 cycle motor on one... Green power meets blue smoke... :)
But still @ nearly 180MPG I can claim less carbon stomping than driving my Mustang GT...
at 22MPG (in my Jeep Grand Cherokee) I can probably claim less carbon footprint than your Mustang GT
I may have you beat - I get 19-23 city but hwy mileage is 27-29 @ 70mph
idling in Overdrive
I'm sure it would help if I had a 4-speed transmission
ah yes mine has the 5spd manual
factory set shift points on the GT autos is weighted towards performance not economy
my 2.4Liter Nissan truck can't beat the GT's hwy mileage
yeah, at highway speeds it's the shape that matters
it gets a flat 25mpg - city or hwy
unless I try to keep the crusie over 75mph then it drops to 20-21
made that mistake on the last cross country trip
yay, I got the holes tapped on jepler's mill's new table
jmkasunich: also I noticed my tapping head is JT6, the same as your QC30 find at HGR
if I had noticed that earlier I might have saved myself a few hours of work
(assuming I could get the existing one off...)
what was the few hours of work? making an arbor?
tapping six thousand holes on the drill press
but with one tap, without breaking it!
yes aluminum, 10-32
piece of cake with tapping head in drill press
I only had one tap, spiral flute - they seem pretty weak
(spiral flute taps do make me cringe a bit, I much prefer spiral point unless the hole is blind
nope, through, but I didn't have the spiral point tap that would have been much better
I guess I need to get some
that is the kind of job that I would defer until the tap arrived
I have a bunch of 1/4-20 - I try to use that whenever I can
I tried to talk him into it, but he wanted 10-32 so he can use sherline clamps and stuff
which I agree is a very nice feature
"sure jeff, order the tap from McMaster"
btw, I also discovered that unlike the HF drills, USA-made 135 degree split point screw machine drills drill the right size hole in the right place
it's a nice couple of features for a drill to have
lol, i can sharpen a drill to cut dead nuts hole sizes for you by hand on a grinder or belt sander ;)
that I'd love to see.
i'll show ya someday ;)
the machinist handbook has an awesome section on drill bit points and sharpening
i combined a few of the techniques to come up with my own sorta split point thing
i could take a few pics of the drills i have at work, i haven't had to resharpen any of the set i have here because i am the only one who uses them ;)
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'nother stupid question for the night, is there a terminal program that installs with 6.06 BDI ?
got emc up and running just need to program my servo drives now...
router PC is miles away from internet
do you mean EMC in a terminal
just like hyperterminal for windows
I don't know
what do you want to do?
just program my PID settings via serial link
serial is basicly in by default on linux (or was) connect to /dev/tty
I can d/l a prog if needed just easier if there is one loaded by default
I will give it a go
so many years since I did it
* BigJohnT is still rubbing eyes and on first cup of joe
_epineh: I'm just wondering why you don't set the PID settings on the computer with EMC?
_epineh, man getty and also lookup minicom
BigJohnT, my drives are Elm Chan based, step/dir input they have PID settings onboard
archivist, cheers, will have a look
I couldn't get /dev/tty to work, I must point out I am a linux noob :-)
/dev/tty0 or 1 and see gety man
k, I will try again...
/dev/ttty0 is the device you connect too
or 1 or.....
_epineh: /dev/ttyS0 probably for COM1 (in dos)
_epineh: check that /dev/ttyS0 is there
ls -al /dev/ttyS*
I was trying the other ones by typing sudo screen /dev/tty0 - is that right ?
try ls -al /dev/ttyS* first
then if ttyS0 is there, just run "minicom"
and it's got some text/graphical interface where you can set port & params
yeah ttys0 is there
I don't think I have minicom, tried that earlier
gotta get it
sudo apt-get install minicom
I had a little problem accidentally unplugged the keyboard lead a little, got a little radical for a while, so many terminal windows opening automatisally
won't I need internet to do that ?
_epineh: sure you do
but you need internet for most anything these days
hence getty (bit harder to drive though)
lol ya, router is in shed, with no internet...bummer, ah well I will d/l it an install tomorrow
try getty /dev/ttys0 9600,np,1 or whatever your setting/port are
no luck, thnx any way, I will get minicom happening tomorrow, been a long day
gotta go to work in about 6 hrs, should probably get some sleep :)
thanks all !
anonimasu: capital S
I meant archivist: capital S
in /dev/ttyS0 (not /dev/ttys0)
alex_joni, I have lc and UC on this box
lc and UC?
lower case upp case
15:25 < archivist> try getty /dev/ttys0 9600,np,1 or whatever your
and alex note caveate "or whatever your setting/port are"
yeah, well.. newbies don't know how to go from ttys0 to something else (based on whatever your port is :)
I cant know whats on his box :)
serial was allways a b***d
ahh.. I get it
I date from those days with serial terminals and all the fun RTS DTS CTS DTR.......bit and bauds, wrote a seral terminal in assembler for dos
I was trying to forget it all!
archivist: I bet you do ;)
I remember doign bit-banging serial on stupid pics in assy
that's a nightmare :D
my last serial pic was a remote control
* alex_joni hates pics
PICs that is..
horrible but cheap
the last one I had, went through some serious underclockign
it worked on 50Hz for a couple of cycles :D
you certainly need a logic analyser developing PIC software
50Hz and 230V directly on the PIC was fun to watch :D
the compiler is also utter crap
I had a big lookup table for some conversions
and it never complained the lines are too long
instead it just took a couple of the subsequent lines of code as part of the table..
hehe, sounds like the Acorn C compiler I did a printer driver with for Riscos
serious bug in the switch case construct, it only used short branches, add line, crash!!!
PIC has issues with carries(it doesnt) on the program counter, hence tables dont work over page boundaries
yeah, I think I hit that one too
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does the dropbox still exist and if so where?
dave_1: I was told no a while back
oh darned I committed something a long time ago and wanted to take a look at it.
it streamed gcode and kept track of modals.
was used for restarting a program.
in the middle
I was thinking about combining using it in a script that did a cat with the output of that and the rest of the program.
don't think I still have the source
that was a couple of machines back
you should ask Sweeper
try that again. you should ask SWPadnos
off to look on another machine bbl
[19:43:26] <rayh> http://www.linuxcnc.org/dropbox/
will get you there dave_1
Hi guys... I'm playing around with my rotary table in Axis and I find it difficult to use: whenever I need to rotate a turn, my program needs to remember the current A axis position. Is there an easy way to home the A axis from the gcode? thanks
Hugomatic: I'm not sure what you mean by 'remember'
the dropbox (or at least most of it) is at http://www.linuxcnc.org/dropbox/
Hi cradek. Well, I mean if I want to make a second turn, I need to program "g1 a 720"...
oh - I guess I could have read a little more :)
But I'd like to say "g1 a+360"
g91 g0 a+360 will go one full turn positive, no matter what the current position
sounds like a job for either incremental - or o-words..
cradek: exactly what I'm looking for, thanks
so would g92 a0 / g1a360
be sure to switch back to g90 when you want absolute mode again
but that might blow up after a long time
* skunkworks_ waits for cradek to yell at SWPadnos
SWPadnos: what do you mean? a "joint following error"?
* cradek doesn't have any problem with using g92 within a program
no, eventually (after some days/weeks/months), you might start losing precision when the joint offset gets too big
then again, it's a double in the interp, so maybe that would never happen (for small values of never)
I'm always turning in the same direction for an hour... is it going to be a problem?
not for an hour
but remember to use G92.3 or whatever it is you need to clear those G92 offsets every once in a while
after the program run you'll see A: 360000, and then you can just poke 'home' to zero it
Well, in that case, if I can reset it from the code, it won't be a problem
going to +10000 revolutions during one emc session might be enough to see problems
cradek: how do I poke home?
cradek means you press the "home" button on the GUI
you can't execute the homing procedure from gcode
OK... I know how to do that
sorry, I wasn't being obscure on purpose
jepler: that's unfortunate... I'd like to be able to question the interpreter from the code (getting axis positions, modes, tool number and stuff)
what kind of work are you doing Hugomatic?
I'd like to build electronic kits and robots
something like open source projects for milling machines
anyone in germany? i jsut talke dto my little bro (who is stationed in germany) who happens to be home on leave.. he was telling me about crazy stuff over there
chr0n1c: what stuff?
gefink, like the police and how all german chicks would do anything for an american soldier ;)
sounds interesting, but actually I meant to ask what kind of job involves using the rotary table this way
and he was telling me about some amazing churches with huge pipe organs...
cradek: I don't have a lathe, so I'm using the rotary table instead
yes, we have muchof this
he said his crazy squad buddies go out and get plastered and start fights all the time so he hangs out by himself a lot...
i meant to ask about the music scene over there, but didn't have time.. we're going to lunch tomorrow.. i'll ask then
I'd go to germany for CCC \o
gefink, thank you for the link, amazing!
chr0n1c: i think you can stream german Radio
my little bro was infatuated with rammstein (the music group) when he was younger i think that's part of the reason he ended up in germany...
here's a cool one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_Cathedral
* chr0n1c is about to start milling the midibox_core circuit board!
Hello, I just noticed some strange behavior on my lathe. I ran about twenty parts, and then started checking my g-code file to edit it for the next parts. I noticed that the mouse was jumping around as if the system was under a load.
I bet your backplot has built up a bit. if you clear it (eraser brush icon) does it go back to normal?
I see this a lot. the backplot throws out "very old" moves but maybe it needs to do it a little sooner.
I toggled the AXIS machine power button and the load went down.
hm, next time you get this, run top and see what it's doing
In the system monitor / processes it indicated two process as active, EMC ~ 10% and Monitor ~6%.
That confussed me a little because the CPU load was 90% and no real load from processes.
I wonder if confussed is a word. confused
top uses less resources on it's own when run from a terminal, the system resources adds 30% load to my CPU when i use it
I'll clear backplot and/or use top next time. It's cleared up now though.
kernel processes don't show up in top
is there ztop or something though for the kernel?
i know i saw an alternative somewhere
good night all
good night alex_joni
my cnc machine hd crashed. I want to download a 6.06 or 8.04 image but can't get my cr rw/ drive installed. Help?
cd not cr
davidf, what's the install hiccup?
Well, I had a cdrom installed, and replaced it with a cr rw.
But the computer doesn't see it.
are the jumpers for master slave set right?I
is the power plug in (seriously, i have left the power plug out before and been like WTF!)
hm, there was a problem with that. I installed ubuntu with the hd set as slave I think, and have had difficulties with that since.
I had a cdrom that was fine on this box, but I replaced it withthe cd r/w and it doesn't work.
if the hd and cdr are on the same ide cable, one needs to be slave and one needs to be master, usually the hd is master
lol. yeah it's in. :)
-- is the second ide channel turned on in bios?
I tried sudo mount /media/hdb1
and got can't find hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
does your bios detect the drive?
hmm... I'll need to look and that means I'll have to disconnect for awhile.
I have to run out for a bit. I need to get to a store to pick up a cd.
Thanks, I'll be back soon!