#emc | Logs for 2008-06-29

[00:34:25] <a-l-p-h-a> my lathe and mill haven't been really ran in almost a year now. the lathe got to pump out one thing during Christmas for a present for someone.
[00:37:43] <toastydeath> =(
[00:51:24] <a-l-p-h-a> thinking of making something... http://www.zestuff.com/otherapparel/jewelry/553/#additionalImages for shits and giggles.
[00:51:32] <a-l-p-h-a> need to find some stainless steel hex stock.
[01:14:37] <toastydeath> ha
[01:20:07] <a-l-p-h-a> hex stock fun! will need to buy some stock, cut it down to 3/4" segments, and drill it out, and then chamfer the edges... find a nice big lobster claw, and aircraft cable to tie it all together. :)
[01:20:50] <toastydeath> or just cut it off in the lathe
[01:21:00] <toastydeath> good time to build a bar feeder.
[01:21:15] <a-l-p-h-a> yeah... that would be nice.
[01:21:22] <a-l-p-h-a> but umm... I have no ability to do so.
[01:21:26] <a-l-p-h-a> it's just a one off.
[01:21:31] <toastydeath> ?
[01:21:39] <toastydeath> no ability to build a bar feeder?
[01:21:44] <a-l-p-h-a> bar feeder. yes.
[01:22:41] <a-l-p-h-a> http://shanalogic.com/item.php?item_id=233 this is kinda of cool too.
[01:23:04] <toastydeath> indeed
[01:31:54] <chr0n1c> make some herringbone ;)
[01:33:43] <a-l-p-h-a> dunno what herringbone is.
[01:34:17] <chr0n1c> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=205829975&listingid=19727832&dcaid=17902
[01:35:06] <a-l-p-h-a> I want hexstock.
[01:35:39] <chr0n1c> why not just buy bulk standoffs?
[01:36:51] <a-l-p-h-a> looking for a source
[01:37:30] <chr0n1c> http://electronic-components.globalspec.com/Industrial-Directory/pcb_spacer
[01:39:07] <a-l-p-h-a> digikey!
[01:39:18] <chr0n1c> ohhhh
[01:40:06] <chr0n1c> it says digikey has 19.000 items in the standoff category :o
[01:40:12] <a-l-p-h-a> omg.
[01:40:17] <a-l-p-h-a> it's fuck'n expensive!
[01:40:36] <a-l-p-h-a> $2 each, for stainless steel ones... 1/4" x 3/4"
[01:40:58] <chr0n1c> there has got to be a cheaper source
[01:41:09] <a-l-p-h-a> fuck, I hope so...
[01:41:12] <chr0n1c> i don't think dell pays 2 bucks a pop for them ;)
[01:41:32] <a-l-p-h-a> I don't want aluminium... I don't like that idea of aluminium touching my skin on a constant bases.
[01:41:35] <chr0n1c> i'd guess there is someone selling them for pennies somewhere
[01:42:00] <chr0n1c> maybe you are better off making them yourself if you ahve a cnc ;0
[01:42:11] <chr0n1c> have*
[01:42:12] <a-l-p-h-a> turret isn't CNCd.
[01:44:14] <chr0n1c> ... so yeah i always wanted to know how they do the herringbone links
[01:59:04] <a-l-p-h-a> I can't find a cheaper place... wow.
[01:59:07] <a-l-p-h-a> this is insane.
[02:01:44] <chr0n1c> a-l-p-h-a, http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/KeywordSearchResultView?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&searchType=k&searchValue=standoff&categoryId=355050&rscount=63
[02:06:05] <chr0n1c> i just watched Shallow Hal... if jack black wasn't in that movie it would have been poo
[02:23:10] <a-l-p-h-a> hmmm...
[02:23:19] <a-l-p-h-a> I think I just ate my sister's best friend's pizza.
[02:23:21] <a-l-p-h-a> oops.
[02:23:23] <a-l-p-h-a> hahaha
[02:39:41] <chr0n1c> is she hot?
[02:40:06] <chr0n1c> i mean smart
[02:42:27] <a-l-p-h-a> both accounts.
[02:46:50] <SkullWorks_PGAB> But I must assume she is Canadian ( and therefore safely out of reach)
[02:51:53] <a-l-p-h-a> yes she is.
[02:51:59] <a-l-p-h-a> she's half german and half chinese.
[02:52:03] <a-l-p-h-a> interesting mix.
[02:53:25] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I bet
[02:54:57] <chr0n1c> so whatever happened to the emc1 people?
[02:55:17] <chr0n1c> the page hasn't been updated in forever
[02:55:19] <a-l-p-h-a> they got culled.
[02:55:41] <SkullWorks_PGAB> if they were smart - they upgraded and are not EMC1 people anymore.
[02:56:03] <a-l-p-h-a> jmkasunich, you kicking?
[02:56:04] <chr0n1c> well, i meant the people who were maintaining it
[02:56:33] <chr0n1c> last edited 2006-05-05 16:59:09 by host-84-9-111-118
[02:56:55] <jmkasunich> a-l-p-h-a: I'm here
[02:58:18] <a-l-p-h-a> jmkasunich, what's going on?
[02:58:26] <a-l-p-h-a> played much with the mesa these days?
[02:59:30] <jmkasunich> no mesa work in ages
[02:59:51] <jmkasunich> doing some stuff with the software encoder module, to allow low ppr encoders to be used for lathe threading
[03:01:03] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I think the last EMC1 holdout is Paul C. the man behind the BDI CD - now he's just a behind who spends his time complaining rather than write any new code.
[03:01:30] <chr0n1c> ohhh...
[03:01:42] <a-l-p-h-a> hey hey... lets be civil.
[03:05:38] <chr0n1c> how long should the real circut board milling / emc2/axis video be? (the same program from my ink/paper video on real pcb) i have 1 hour and 45 mins of cutting...
[03:05:50] <chr0n1c> ... i'm getting ready to edit it
[03:06:36] <chr0n1c> youtube is only ten mins max (i think i can do longer vids on there though)
[03:15:36] <a-l-p-h-a> I think the criteria was 100 megs uploads.
[03:18:08] <chr0n1c> http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en-ie&answer=55743
[03:19:17] <chr0n1c> http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en-ie&answer=71673 <- i have an old guru account so i can do longer than ten as well..
[03:19:31] <chr0n1c> but how long is too long for a pcb cutting video?
[03:33:51] <chr0n1c> anyone ever check out tomgreen.com?
[03:34:29] <SkullWorks_PGAB> http://www.snotr.com/video/1366 - 14 seconds...
[03:43:13] <[1]a-l-p-h-a> [1]a-l-p-h-a is now known as a-l-p-h-a
[03:55:20] <toastydeath> anyone have a ti-89 and a hp 50g
[03:55:24] <toastydeath> or maybe just a 50g
[03:58:11] <chr0n1c> would an emulator work?
[03:59:01] <toastydeath> no, i'm looking at buying one
[03:59:05] <toastydeath> to replace my ti-89
[03:59:12] <toastydeath> but i guess an emulator could help.
[04:07:43] <cradek> I was going to suggest a used HP 48GX but amazingly they sell on ebay for over $100
[04:10:47] <toastydeath> i am not happy with how my 89 handles differentiation
[04:11:05] <toastydeath> and have read that the 50g does everything in that regard a little better
[04:11:46] <chr0n1c> http://www.google.com/search?q=hp+50g+emulator
[04:13:01] <toastydeath> cool
[04:18:04] <chr0n1c> never put an endmill in a drill chuck...
[04:18:19] <chr0n1c> lol, i was just watching some youtube videos...
[04:21:21] <toastydeath> don't put a drill in a drill chuck for that matter, if it can be helped
[07:41:01] <_epineh> hi all
[07:41:51] <toastydeath> hai
[07:44:47] <_epineh> I have a quick question, to make an output active low in stepconf is it just a matter of selecting invert ?
[07:48:36] <toastydeath> i have no idea, sorry
[07:49:13] <chr0n1c> _epineh, that sounds logical
[07:50:33] <_epineh> k, thnx, I think I have more problems then...
[14:08:14] <Roguish_> Roguish_ is now known as Roguish
[15:11:19] <skunkworks> this tabletpc gets very hot running ubuntu+realtime. Poor thing isn't used to running flat out.
[15:11:50] <skunkworks> hasn't locked up though - maybe the cooling is designed correctly
[15:32:44] <renesis> something will prob fail eventually
[16:21:12] <Roguish_> hey all, all you with personal websites, what application do you use to set the sites up with? Joomla or ??????
[16:21:31] <JymmmEMC> textpad
[16:22:18] <BigJohnT> word
[16:23:18] <Roguish_> really? seriously?
[16:23:46] <BigJohnT> me?
[16:23:58] <Roguish_> ya, you.
[16:24:10] <BigJohnT> yep really I use word
[16:24:24] <Roguish_> ok
[16:26:41] <skunkworks> linuxcnc.org uses joomla - ask alex
[16:35:17] <a-l-p-h-a> joomla... ack
[16:35:21] <a-l-p-h-a> i really do not like it.
[16:35:28] <a-l-p-h-a> at least from what I've seen of the background to it.
[16:50:15] <alex_joni> I usually use notepad :P
[16:50:25] <alex_joni> or mcedit
[16:50:31] <alex_joni> but for linuxcnc I used joomla
[16:50:49] <alex_joni> Roguish_: other well liked apps are wordpress
[17:02:59] <renesis> #cms has something simple, kinda medium skill level
[17:21:33] <Roguish_> that's me, simple and uncomplicated.
[17:58:03] <Roguish_> question: does setting LATHE=1 do anything besides modify the AXIS display graphics?
[17:58:30] <alex_joni> Roguish_: nope
[17:58:45] <Roguish_> ok, thanks.
[17:58:50] <alex_joni> np
[17:59:39] <Roguish_> any chance AXIS will display rotation axes moves? i have an X, Z, and C machine (vertical lathe).
[18:00:36] <Roguish_> my vismach looks fine, but AXIS displays all the moves without the C rotation.
[18:02:17] <alex_joni> I think it does that already in TRUNK
[18:22:17] <Roguish_> i'll update and check.
[18:31:47] <skunkworks> the 'cheap drives?' thread from mariss on cnc zone finally blew up. He initally set the target price of $29 per axis. Now after designing them - He changed it to $61 per axis. seems to be some upset people now. ;)
[18:33:14] <anonimasu> heh
[18:49:02] <alex_joni> well.. 29$ I wouldn't trust
[18:49:44] <anonimasu> they are 31 in 1000qty
[18:50:14] <anonimasu> or maybe it was 5000
[18:50:15] <anonimasu> :p
[18:51:00] <SkullWorks_PGAB> Well he did add alot more functions than the stripped down barebones he initially proposed
[18:51:48] <anonimasu> the reason for the price increase is the shipping and handling :/
[18:52:14] <anonimasu> AS IT SEEMS
[18:52:18] <anonimasu> err as it seems..
[18:52:38] <SkullWorks_PGAB> and while the G250 is nice to be able to replace a blown driver in a G540 - I figure most people will want the G251 with the screw terminals.
[18:53:17] <SkullWorks_PGAB> those cost more in parts and assembly
[18:53:28] <anonimasu> I dont see the need for ultra cheap drives.. I'd rather see really good drives at modeate prices..
[18:54:53] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I think thats what he ended up with
[18:55:51] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[18:56:38] <SkullWorks_PGAB> 1/1o stepping morph to full step, midband rez damping, 3A 50v with no safety net.
[18:57:07] <anonimasu> safety net?
[18:57:32] <anonimasu> uh.. I pay 24.1 eur for a allegro.. LMD 18245
[18:57:32] <SkullWorks_PGAB> but then, almost no other stepper drives have a safety net either.
[18:57:48] <anonimasu> and about 37 for a gecko..
[18:58:53] <anonimasu> 12.9eur is the difference.. -_-
[18:59:00] <anonimasu> between a chip and a complete driver..
[18:59:00] <SkullWorks_PGAB> Safety net like he built into the "V" series
[18:59:05] <anonimasu> oh I see
[19:00:46] <SkullWorks_PGAB> a loose / intermittent motor connection will smoke most driver chips - T "V" series you can pull the cables out while its moving without any damage
[19:00:56] <anonimasu> yep
[19:01:24] <anonimasu> I know.. I were just wondering over the term you used for it :)
[19:03:10] <alex_joni> skunkworks: what was the thread named?
[19:03:41] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I need to go clean house - I need a clear path to move my gun safe (ich real work!)
[19:04:14] <anonimasu> google for mariss + cheap drives
[19:04:46] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51083
[19:06:38] <fenn> heh i thought that said 'i need to clear a path to my gun safe'
[19:06:45] <alex_joni> oh, at cnczone..
[19:07:30] <alex_joni> I thought the grcko group at yahoo
[19:07:34] <alex_joni> gecko even
[19:10:04] <SWPadnos> get 50, then sell them on eBay once the price goes up
[19:10:49] <alex_joni> 82 pages? are you kidding me?
[19:10:58] <skunkworks> heh
[19:11:05] <alex_joni> people have too much free time
[19:11:05] <SWPadnos> I skipped to the end, and I'm going backwards now ;)
[19:11:38] <SkullWorks_PGAB> It looks like he's going to hold the $29 price as a 2wk intro special...
[19:12:53] <SWPadnos> heh - I like this signature line: "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. - Mark Twain"
[19:15:39] <alex_joni> heh
[19:37:31] <awallin> this weekends machining: http://www.anderswallin.net/2008/06/iom-fin-and-rudder-moulds/
[19:38:29] <anonimasu> got a better closeup of the surface finish?
[19:38:35] <anonimasu> * anonimasu is curious
[19:39:43] <awallin> hm, not at the moment. I think Jari said the smaller mould had a better finish, it's run with a 4mm ball-nose. The bigger was run with a 6mm ball-nose so the program wouldn't take forever
[19:39:57] <anonimasu> ok
[19:40:01] <anonimasu> what kind of feeds/speeds?
[19:40:47] <awallin> the finish pass was at 1000mm/min with the spindle maxed out at 5400rpm
[19:40:51] <anonimasu> ok
[19:40:52] <anonimasu> :)
[19:40:55] <awallin> a 10 or 12k spindle would be nice...
[19:41:00] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[19:41:04] <anonimasu> I've found a source for one
[19:41:17] <anonimasu> but they are like 1000eur and 1500eur for the vfg..
[19:41:20] <anonimasu> vfd..
[19:41:25] <awallin> these were 2-flute cutters, we should get some 4-flute ones I think
[19:41:53] <anonimasu> but they go to 15krpm too..
[19:57:33] <SkullWorks_PGAB> 10-12K spindle may require new bearings with air/oil lube cooling vrs grease.
[20:01:39] <toastydeath> srs
[20:13:12] <tomp> awallin: nice molds, i see no sprue, so i guess these aren't injection molds. how do you use them?
[20:15:16] <SWPadnos> the upper edge of one of them hada sprue
[20:15:39] <SWPadnos> oh - bith halves seem to have it
[20:16:01] <SWPadnos> both
[20:16:01] <tomp> i see the runner now, thx
[20:16:02] <SWPadnos> sure
[20:16:07] <tomp> squint squint :)
[20:16:12] <SWPadnos> just squash lead in there, it'll melt ;)
[20:24:25] <chr0n1c> http://youtube.com/watch?v=8e9faI0Zpj4 <- the cnc circuit board milling video, 10 minutes, no rap music in this one!.. (damn i need a better camera)
[20:29:33] <toastydeath> and rap music
[20:31:00] <tomp> the 1st big rap song "Rapture" Blondie 1981, 1st and last rap song i ever liked
[20:31:11] <SWPadnos> heh
[20:31:38] <anonimasu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaVr89FO_FE&feature=related
[20:31:40] <anonimasu> holy crap!
[20:40:38] <chr0n1c> i'm trying to learn artcam so i can do that kinda 3d milling
[20:44:14] <tomp> anonimasu: nice, wonder what the real runtime was like. was on a 'bridgeport clone' and i have no idea of the meters traveled.
[20:44:43] <chr0n1c> i've cut up to 50 ipm in aluminum with a cutter about that size
[20:44:53] <chr0n1c> *in the face vid
[20:45:27] <SkullWorks_PGAB> reminds me of the Tombstone I "Engraved" - 779,000 lines of G-code.
[20:45:36] <tomp> how many feet/meters do you think are in the passes from the vid?
[20:46:13] <tomp> (how many jellybeans in this jar ;)
[20:47:09] <SkullWorks_PGAB> The word Engraved comes from the job title of one who make grave markers and headstones.
[20:47:48] <anonimasu> tomp: yeah
[20:48:01] <anonimasu> tomp: im still pondering if I can get that kind of code running on my machine :p
[20:48:22] <chr0n1c> i should make mini tombstones for model train cemetaries
[20:48:23] <SkullWorks_PGAB> Guess laser etching Zippos just helps speed up the process...
[20:48:46] <chr0n1c> bahh! engrave zippos ;)
[20:49:26] <anonimasu> tomp: it should work :p
[20:49:51] <SkullWorks_PGAB> hey $5 is $5.
[20:51:00] <anonimasu> the tool wear costs more then you make at selling a engraved zippo -_-
[20:53:10] <SkullWorks_PGAB> Laser dude - Type in the text - push start - its all over in under 10 seconds.
[20:53:23] <tomp> engrave: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/engrave
[20:53:27] <anonimasu> yeah..
[20:54:09] <chr0n1c> how fast do you think a carbide bit wears out, lol i could do a hundred zippos with one bit...
[20:54:25] <chr0n1c> ok, maybe only 50-75
[20:54:31] <tomp> anonimasu: need a gcode2heidenhain translator?
[20:56:11] <SkullWorks_PGAB> about 30 with a 60 degree "D" in non-chromed brass zippo bodies
[20:56:29] <anonimasu> * anonimasu nods
[20:56:35] <SkullWorks_PGAB> (powder coat or Teflon finish)
[20:57:05] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I get mine re-ground for $2 ea.
[20:58:04] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I make up new blanks from broke 1/8 and 3/16 Carbide endmill shanks.
[20:58:05] <chr0n1c> well, i'm working on rigging up a dvd laser diode to the z on this thing ;) maybe we'll do some laser etching soon...
[20:58:17] <SkullWorks_PGAB> sweet!
[20:58:38] <SkullWorks_PGAB> about 420mW ?
[20:59:35] <chr0n1c> not sure... i gotta buy a diode still!
[20:59:52] <chr0n1c> i did a buncha research and planned out how i'll mount it so far...
[21:00:21] <chr0n1c> and i think i can set up a lever switch at whatever depth to turn the diode on when it hits
[21:00:48] <chr0n1c> then when z backs off the diode will turn off till z come back down to cutting depth and hits the switch again
[21:01:11] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I need to buy a Surefire IR flashlite - to use as a flood light for doing night videos...
[21:01:49] <SkullWorks_PGAB> the little IR diode in the vidcam is only good for about 10 feet.
[21:02:40] <chr0n1c> what are you doing vids of at night? or maybe i don't wanna know ;)
[21:02:44] <SkullWorks_PGAB> IR laser diode is good for almost 1000ft
[21:03:20] <SkullWorks_PGAB> not sure yet
[21:04:07] <SkullWorks_PGAB> maybe moonlite motorcycle racing
[21:04:43] <chr0n1c> you can just get a buncha ir leds and make a diy ir floodlight cheap i bet
[21:04:48] <SkullWorks_PGAB> out in the dunes it almost like daylite under a full moon - but not enough to film motion
[21:05:04] <SkullWorks_PGAB> can do stills just fine
[21:06:21] <chr0n1c> my cybershot won't take pics for sh*t in the dark unless you do the scan mode where it adds the light from three stills together to make 1 with decent light.. but it's always blurry
[21:06:45] <chr0n1c> *even if i use the tripod they come out blurry in scan mode
[21:07:23] <SkullWorks_PGAB> well they make a IR laser with diffuser lense for use with Nightvision rifle scopes that is small and can run 6hrs continuous on 1 charge - its about the size of 2 "C" cells - and could be mounted on the camera mount
[21:07:28] <chr0n1c> video is a no-go in less than perfect full day sunlight
[21:08:20] <chr0n1c> anybody want mcdonalds? i'm making a food run ;)
[21:09:29] <SkullWorks_PGAB> Sony seems to always use IR to improve low light - it just washes out the color the more it relies on IR - nightshooting is pure B&W.
[21:09:40] <anonimasu> :/
[21:09:50] <anonimasu> also allows you to photograph through clothes sometimes
[21:10:42] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I had a SunPak 522 that was notorious for that...
[21:11:11] <SkullWorks_PGAB> gave new meaning to the term Flash photography.
[21:12:00] <SkullWorks_PGAB> Wonder if my darkroom equip is totally worthless now days?
[21:12:27] <SkullWorks_PGAB> who still uses film?
[21:12:56] <chr0n1c> put it on ebay SkullWorks_PGAB, if you're not using it anymore, i'm sure someone will buy it
[21:13:47] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I kinda have to keep it - if I ever want to shoot anything with my 4x5
[21:14:56] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I don't have an enlager that can handle 4x5 but I can still do contact prints.
[21:15:29] <SkullWorks_PGAB> can't take 4x5 to the local 1 hr foto...
[21:15:55] <chr0n1c> digital FTW!
[21:16:49] <chr0n1c> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/29/0625249&from=rss <-- look at this junk, bidding against your own customers?? wtf?
[21:17:16] <SkullWorks_PGAB> yeah - lately I been using the vidcam to shot stills even though they max out at 1.3mp
[21:19:24] <SkullWorks_PGAB> ouch - I have a domain hosted on GoDaddy
[21:19:40] <anonimasu> ew
[21:20:07] <chr0n1c> i told them to go screw a themselves about 2 years ago when the tech support guy told me he had never heard of linux!
[21:20:17] <SkullWorks_PGAB> have not updated it this year - and don't have much on my other domain either
[21:20:39] <anonimasu> godaddy wont accept my mails for some reason
[21:20:49] <chr0n1c> i told him he was either lying to me or a complete idiot and i didn't wanna do business with them over the phone and transferred my domain to bravenet
[21:20:59] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I got %gb space with 5GB transfer/mo. for like $3/mo.
[21:21:04] <anonimasu> hmm..
[21:21:06] <SkullWorks_PGAB> 5gb space
[21:21:15] <chr0n1c> bravenet.com
[21:21:31] <chr0n1c> that's who i use.. a tad slow but i'm not building a youtube...
[21:21:49] <SkullWorks_PGAB> my other domain is on linux servers at PHPwebhosting.com
[21:21:58] <chr0n1c> and if i have a complaint they try everything they can to make me happy
[21:22:40] <SkullWorks_PGAB> PHP is so much easier to use - unlimited subdomains I can add/remove at will
[21:22:46] <chr0n1c> i've used bravenet for hosting off and of for like 10 years almost
[21:23:10] <chr0n1c> on and off* (lol)
[21:23:39] <chr0n1c> if you ignore all the free junk they shove in your face, it's a decent server
[21:24:40] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I lost one of my domains when someone put a prepaid reservation on the name and I didn't renew within 24hrs of the expiration - (could not locate the account password)
[21:24:41] <chr0n1c> i got ftp, free email addys, like 300 gb of hosting space, 600 gb of transfers a month, subdomains, redirecting, domain masking,
[21:25:11] <SkullWorks_PGAB> whats that pkg run?
[21:25:11] <chr0n1c> i just renewd daytonhiphop.com for another year...
[21:25:29] <chr0n1c> it's like 9.95 a month i think SkullWorks_PGAB
[21:25:59] <SWPadnos> sounds a bit like DreamHost, except that you get a lot more space and monthly transfer on DH
[21:26:17] <SkullWorks_PGAB> thats about what I pay for php - but much smaller storage and transfer limits - or so it was last time I checked
[21:26:33] <chr0n1c> i've never even used more than a couple gb a month really.. even with all the music flying in and out of daytonhiphop.com
[21:26:48] <chr0n1c> i hope to get that # up though eventually ;)
[21:27:06] <chr0n1c> (it's coming together slowly)
[21:28:15] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I hide CD.iso files on my domain - backup driver packages for my systems - can pull it down wherever/whenever I need it - saved my backside a few times.
[21:29:33] <SWPadnos> remember - if you switch to DreamHost using my account as a referral, you help to support Linuxcnc.org hosting :)
[21:30:08] <chr0n1c> lol, SWPadnos... i'll keep that in mind for my next domain purchase
[21:30:17] <SWPadnos> excellent! :0
[21:30:28] <SkullWorks_PGAB> nice to have my complete apps suite all on one iso - so a HDD replacement while out of town only requires downloading and burning 2 cd's and I'm good to go.
[21:31:01] <chr0n1c> i did backup my EMC configs to my website in the blog
[21:31:14] <SkullWorks_PGAB> smart move
[21:31:30] <chr0n1c> and i use it to transferr huge music master .wav files to people
[21:31:32] <SWPadnos> actually, their plan is 500GB space, 5TB monthly transfer, $10.95/mo (less if you pre-pay), and they throw in a free domain registration which remains free as long as you host with them
[21:31:47] <SkullWorks_PGAB> SWEET!
[21:32:16] <SkullWorks_PGAB> SWP what would I need to use as a referal to get you the credit?
[21:32:33] <SWPadnos> unlimited users, email accounts, shell logins, host names ...
[21:32:35] <SWPadnos> lemme check
[21:32:57] <chr0n1c> ohh shell logins would be nice, that's abotu the only thing missing from bravenet...
[21:33:22] <SWPadnos> you aren't root, and it's a shared server - so there are some issues
[21:33:32] <SWPadnos> but it's nice - the loggers run on DH for example
[21:34:00] <SWPadnos> either go here and enter no referrer: http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?80098
[21:34:07] <chr0n1c> i miss the server i was hosting here, i had complete control over it, but i switched to dsl from cable and i don't have enough bandwidth to host a server here anymore
[21:34:18] <alex_joni> good night all
[21:34:19] <SWPadnos> or enter thoth@sover.net as the referrer
[21:34:22] <SWPadnos> see you Alex
[21:34:30] <chr0n1c> later alex_joni
[21:35:52] <SWPadnos> hmmm. maybe the email referrer is better. the ?r=80098 link may not be working correctly
[21:41:47] <SkullWorks_PGAB> OK - info is saved for when I have time to play again - as is with these 58+hr work weeks I end up falling asleep reading email when I get home.
[21:44:38] <SkullWorks_PGAB> I don't need root priv - just FTP and maybe some CGI-bin
[21:45:01] <SkullWorks_PGAB> perl still gives me fits
[21:46:05] <SkullWorks_PGAB> anytime I try to write something I emal a copy to a friend to proof before uploading to the server.
[22:21:38] <fenn> * fenn wonders why mail.splunk.com is mirroring his /pub/emc
[22:57:08] <Guest430> Guest430 is now known as skunkworks
[23:02:13] <LawrenceG> BigJohnT, hey... added my first gcode wizard to your wiki page.... I am a little rusty at python, but its slowing coming back.
[23:02:26] <LawrenceG> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Simple_EMC_G-Code_Generators
[23:04:41] <SWPadnos> cool
[23:05:10] <SWPadnos> but of course, I have a couple of suggestions :)
[23:05:18] <LawrenceG> sure....
[23:05:43] <SWPadnos> it would be cool to have options for a hexagonal hole pattern instead of square
[23:06:02] <SWPadnos> also to have square and maybe oval bounding regions
[23:06:27] <SWPadnos> and to have an option to include/exclude holes that fall on the border of the region
[23:07:43] <SWPadnos> (that's all, except maybe round-rect regions too ;) )
[23:08:28] <LawrenceG> maybe select shape with radio buttons?
[23:08:41] <SWPadnos> yep, not some arbitrary programmable shape
[23:09:16] <SWPadnos> even for speakers, there are oval shapes. square would allow for use in making vent hole patterns (like for a fan)
[23:09:30] <LawrenceG> cocktail hour here.... I'll dream about it overnight
[23:09:34] <SWPadnos> or a drop-down - makes it more expandable later
[23:09:43] <SWPadnos> ok, looks good though
[23:16:42] <chr0n1c> nice looking app, i'll have to try it out!
[23:28:19] <pminmo> good evening...can I set variables in the var file via axis?
[23:29:27] <fenn> in MDI do something like #5001=123
[23:31:04] <pminmo> I was hoping it might have the variable definitions linked to what the variable is
[23:31:23] <pminmo> i.e. what is 5001
[23:31:35] <SWPadnos> nope
[23:32:08] <pminmo> is there a utility or maybe one of the other interfaces?
[23:32:19] <SWPadnos> not that I know of
[23:33:32] <pminmo> ok where can I find the "connection" between variable and specific G-code?
[23:33:43] <SWPadnos> that's in the manual. hold on a sec
[23:36:06] <SWPadnos> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//gcode_main.html#sub:Parameters
[23:37:03] <pminmo> 22.3?
[23:37:10] <SWPadnos> ?
[23:37:48] <pminmo> section 22.3
[23:38:11] <SWPadnos> oh - could be. it's the section on Parameters, which I linked to (the online HTML version)
[23:39:19] <pminmo> I'm using the java plugin, either I haven't figured out how to use it, or it can't use the hyperlinks
[23:39:30] <SWPadnos> ok
[23:39:54] <pminmo> what about G28 definition
[23:40:36] <SWPadnos> go to linuxcnc.org, click Dovumentation, click the PDF link next to User Manual. It's chapter 12.15 there, I think
[23:41:32] <SWPadnos> uh - 12.5, page 134 (151 of the PDF)
[23:41:41] <SWPadnos> I'm not sure where that's set
[23:42:23] <pminmo> I found it, thanks
[23:42:41] <pminmo> looks like a different manual than my installed manual
[23:42:57] <SWPadnos> there are several, the one that's installed may be a more complete one
[23:45:46] <pminmo> I will say there is lots of documentation, but I'm rally struggling with finding what vs where...
[23:45:53] <pminmo> really
[23:46:15] <SWPadnos> yeah, I know the feeling. it looks like BigJohnT is helping with that right now :)
[23:46:45] <pminmo> rays classes helped me a lot at the workshop, but I still funble on things
[23:49:10] <pminmo> thanks SWPadnos, later
[23:49:40] <SWPadnos> see you
[23:49:44] <SWPadnos> good luck