rayh: Has anyone been reccording your classes? I can't get there till Thur evening and wanted to hear your stuff.
JymmmEMC is now known as MrAsshole
MrAsshole is now known as JymmmEMC
i have one little problem with emc2, please help!
please state the nature of the problem
EMC == Emergency Machine Controller? :)
* archivist reads survey results wish it was easier to find31.91% more links!! for google to find
are there 8-phase stepper motors is use nowadays?
dimas_: somewhere, probably...
is it oblosete solution? is there 8-phase stepper driver or 8-phase mode in available drivers?
there is microstep in most modern drivers for normal stepper motors
I think it's not only microstep but 8-wire motors that may be unusual today
am I right?
I have motors with 8 wires, I dont call them 8 phase
coils are in pairs and can be series or parallel connected
what your motors are?
[09:21:12] <archivist> http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Stepper-Motors
second one down
download data for connection details
thanks, and I will check agiecut's schematics later today
acemi_ is now known as acemi
Hi atex57 sorry I missed your question. No we were not able to get recording.
hope all is well on your end :)
Yep. Doing great.
I hear that the tooling is arriving today so that Roland can make his motor mounts.
cradek has been working on the gcode
SWPadnos got EMC2 talking to a frequency drive using modbus yesterday.
It was great to see it running a program and spinning the spindle using serial.
the modbus stuff sounds nice
Yep. I've already got a project for it.
so what's a good way to talk to embedded devices over 300'ish distances? preferably using cat5?
The lab with Steve's PMDX-112 is really awesome for learning HAL.
Sweeper, Does this need to be real time?
rayh: not really
Sweeper: ethernet probably
either copper or fiber
gah. ethernet modules are spendy D:
Sweeper: two cans on a string?
and also complicated to talk to :v
that's what I use
I was hoping there was some nice bus protocol I could use
100kbits at 1200 is plenty
that's 1200 METERS
you only need a voltage shifter
most micros have a serial port
I think I shall use it for home monitoring/automation
there are some existing protocols for that
usefull if you need existing sensors
don't remember the name though..
eh, I'll be haxing my own
modbus runs over it
I got this awsome pdf about making your own sensor packages
[11:55:19] <alex_joni> http://www.parkwayreststop.com/archives/2714
YEA! SheetCam works on 6.06 now
bbl time to slop the hogs and walk the dog
trip day today.
might have to ford a few rivers ;)
where a gps comes in useful, find new route when blocked
oh - it is already in the truck :)
I first used one driving in France around striking truck driver roadblocks
a gps can find a different route, but won't know if it's blocked
take the boat down the lake
yes - but it is easy to find other routes to get there.. I am sure dad will update the maps right before we go.
Skunkworks: Are you going down 61 to the Quad Cities?
we nomrally take 61 thru dubuque and davenport
actually - we may take 35 down (I don't know if we have decided)
that ends up in debuque also
61 is a simpler route. Holler if you see road problems. I will be taking 61 down tommorow.
skunkworks: don't forget to bring water
cradek: that is on the list. Thanks :)
you're coming tonight?
so he said
good morning alex
we are keeping a list of task bugs for you to fix when you get back.
cradek: yes. we should be leaving this afternoon
anything we might have - you guys might need?
(I will be keeping tabs on here until we leave)
I would have asked for a 4-48 die the other day, but then I realized I have a lathe
alex_joni: I was joking actually
oh, even better :)
but if you feel like fixing some task bugs, let us know
well.. depends on what you consider a bug
if you say task concept is a bug, and it should be reorganized.. then I might not feel like fixing it :D
yuck, I see that nobody has filed a bug report for the one we were talking about - using resume from line doesn't turn the spindle on [and maybe doesn't do other things like turn on coolant]
guys, boss guy has magically forgot the agreed up price range we talked about at 1st interview
so for first paycheck, CAD design, CAM programming, CNC operation, $150K holz-her router thing
cuz he also forgot when i said 'yeah no way i would have taken that other job if the money mattered at that point in my life'
paid last guy $18/hr
and i have to do 3 hours a bus a day to get there and back
jezus fuck if i wanted quicky-mart wages i would have found a closer job
so i talked to him about it yesterday in the morning
and hes like ill tell you whats up in an hour, said something in between $12-13, which i wont stay for, because thats not really fair for just CNC operation alone =(
so yeah no word all day yesterday, even tho we talked all day
they almost have no clue whats up with that machine, either, heh
they post to machine and post to file, when they output from CAM program
but then they close out the serial terminal editor, before doing ANYTHING rs232 related
because whats actually going on is theyre saving the files to the machine on an networked drive
not archiving them
when i saved the file to my work directory for backup, it fucked shit up because next time they tried to post to the machine theyre like WHY DIDNT THE FILES POST
all their files posted to my project working directory
sounds like a boss as well clued to wage rates as here
i had an electronics QA tech job for $10/hr
when i was in school
because money didnt matter to me i wanted to learn how this guy ran his test lab/little warehouse
so he thought he could pay me that
1st interview, him: so how much?
me: low/mid 20s?
AND THEN we had a dialog, maybe 3 or 4 minutes, about how people come in asking for like $14 or $15 and hes like 'but thats insane, thats not enough!'
shady mfkr, if i stay its for $15 with agreed up raise schedule to im at his old guys rates, mostly because everyone else in the company seems cool, and even bossguy is cool except for this
anyway, grrr, etc
is it normal to MDI M6T# and for the machine not to load the tool length offset?
i had to be like D# to get it to load those
i dont think the has or bridgeport or fadal things were like that, but i dont think i did a ton of MDI
im pretty sure you didnt write the gcode for them like that
and i think S word went on the spindle enable block
anyway, this NUM Trace controller shit is horrible, i miss emc on my fairy mill at home
uh - a ladder...
does anyone have any experience with Smithy's EZ-Trol
I think the guy who wrote it is here
It looks great. Is it open source?
not as far as I Know
It looks mach-like,
it has the 2 things that are missing from EMC from my point of view, conversational and lager dro's
larger dro's that is
s would be good too
hang on, someone who knows is on the way
EMC2 has come conversational stuff in development
fusion_crank, meet mshaver
mshaver, meet fusion_crank :)
glad to meet you
he may be able to answer your question(s)
I hope so
I hope so too!
what did you want to know?
I am looking for the EZ-Trol modification of EMC2
I like the larger DRO's and conversational programing
It's available from Smithy when you buy their system
there-in lies the problem, I already have a system, I just want to buy the software
I think that you should call sales at (800)476-4849. Ask for Kerry. I don't think we've sold just the software before, but I don't know why they wouldn't. Of course I'm not in sales...
I have a call in to them, I don't know if I spoke to Kerry. I am waiting on a return call. I was doing my homework in the mean time.
I hope the price isn't too high
It looks great
I'll call them & tell them to wake up & call you back! Can I reference a name?
thank you for your help
I'll call now. If you have any other questions after you get it, I can answer them, or connect you with the programmer who knows all.
mshaver: is smity there?
Yes, sort of. We didn't bring any machines to exhibit, but several folks are here to soak up the atmosphere ;)
fusion_crank: I just tried to call, but can't get thru on my cell. I'll send an e-mail to Kerry instead. If you don't hear back from them, fell free to call me at (443)789-4628.
this intrwaweb thing is pretty cool, I'll bet it takes off some day
emc2 big dro http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?PyVCP
This looks very interesting, but probably above my level of expertise. I'll have to study it at length.
I have another question regarding the Shuttle Express. I asked this on CNC Zone and was told it can't be done. I'd like to interface the Shuttle express with EMC2. I use it with my demo if Mach3 and its great.
I was told it can't work with EMC and that doesn't make sense to me. If it can be made to work with mach, it should be able to be made with EMC2. Why does the OS matter?
fusion_crank: surely it can be done, it all depends on how much effort you want to invest on it
as it is now, there is no simple connect and configure though
(for some reason that eludes my memory)
fusion_crank: I was the one that replied to you on cnczone. (samco)
safe trip samco
thank you for the reply
I wish I had the background to figure out such a problem
it is such a slick tool for touching off a setup
fusion_crank: see here http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/2112
here is my problem with joy pads, you can move 2 axis at once, when I am touching off, I only want to move one.
is there a way to make it so you have to hold a button to select an axis and then the direction at the same time to prevent the 2 axis move?
I read that article, I wonder how Mach overcame this problem
conventional jog-wheels that output quadrature pulses work very well with emc2
are there any tricks you use for touch-off and setups while using a joypad? I have one, but it just seemed odd and clumsy.
fusion_crank: yes you can move only one axis at a time with a joypad as well as select the speed
how do you move only one axis of you inadvertently push the joystick a little of 90 degree angles?
most joysticks are 'digital' (buttons under the stick) fewer are analog ( pots under the stick). the button type wont notice anything minor off '90 degrees'. the analog ones can be used by software that ignores small values.
both can be used by software that ignores other directions or only applies to one direction
I use my mill to do cnc and manual machining. If I am cutting a groove in a part, I don't want the cut to wander. I only want to change axis when I intend to
so set a larger dead zone in the center?
disengage the cnc, use gib locks, just like on a real mill or get complicated
you could still have the dro while cranking
archivist : btw i found a replacement IPM module in the UK for 30 quid brand new!
if your cnc mill does wander when you do cutting you probably shouldnt mill with it..
* anonimasu has been there before :p
where axes got pulled out of position making the edges ~
and me, stopped fixed column properly , restarted
I bought bigger servos :)
no, by wander I mean I am cuting a groove in the x axis by pressing the x axis joystick and for a moment my thumb wanders up in the y just a bit and so does the mill
I was to keen to play, the column was just clamped to the base
fusion_crank: if you want the cnc to mill the slot, just issue feeds and a G01 blah command. the cnc's just is to eliminate wandering or stop with an error
and, you can write software that only moves the one axis despite your thumb's errant ways
* anonimasu nods
jog is only good for setting up parts .)
Oh, but it is so convienient for cutting too ;-)
except for the wandering bit
I would only jog with a defined key that only moves what I want
fusion_crank: sorry customers came in for a visit
fusion_crank: use the two joysticks for X and Y and use buttons for Z
ooo, I like that!
as in my example on the wiki site use the speed buttons as the enable so if you move a stick nothing happens unless your finger is also on the speed button
which wiki is that please?
EMC wiki! step by step here http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Simple_Remote_Pendant
* BigJohnT goes back to work
Thank you all for your help. Gota go! Bye.
anonimasu: I use the jog buttons on my mill to cut all the time... squaring up an edge and things like that.
I use the feed override to get the cut speed (defaults to 40 IPM) and it only allows you to jog one axis at a time...
we have a toy cnc here where jog buttons is the only safe way (needs emc upgrade)
you just have to convince the manager to let you do it!
I need to get the owner to let me be the owner
that's even better :)
he says yes anyway, but I dont like messing with things I dont own
or dont get paid to do
I dont think an upgrade is much work on it at all as its just a crap controller to be replaced
i have a tiny screen on this eeepc. isnt virtual screen size handled by Xconfig? i cant find anything like it ( i used to use virtual screensizes back when)
good night all
changing to a virtual screen size wasnt very intuitive. the man xorg.conf would make you think it was adding "SubSection "Display" | Virtual blah blah | EndSubSection" but its that plus "Modes blah blah blah in the subsection plus setting gnome's Screen Resolution 'wizard' plus a hard reboot ( log out/in & ^altBKSP has no effect)
(hardy har har 8.04)
im stayin put with what i have working till i get another box..