it's crazy if you even read the analysis
you're an engineer
i believe it mindlessly!
you could poke holes in that analysis all day
Jesus would drive a hummer
and you can't argue with jesus.
i think jesus would drive a labaron
wwjd means "what would jesus drive" ?
they let some mighty strange people in this channel
were is the evil Rayh to boot you crazy ppl
driving a hummer, obv
I hope he's driving it downhill, driving it uphill costs about $10 a mile
like the one guy who has the VW bug with the jet engine and gets 15 gallons to the mile
wreckedexotics.com says they have pictures of crashed hummers
but I don't see them
I'm trying to figure out what to use for the z axis on my pc board router
and can anyone suggest a source for couplings like mcmaster p/n 60635K1 in metric bore?
they dont look very rigid
fenn_ is now known as fenn
well i meant the engine block
i mean the pinhole disc coupling aka "schmidt coupling"
eric_U: looks like the bore is supposed to cover a range of sizes?
Morning Ladies anf Gentlemen
there are no gentlemen here
ruffians and scalawags 0only
Well, I just was giving the benefit of the doubt
If I wanted to see when the box was rebooted, lost pwr etc, which log would I typically look at?
the kernel log usually gets a crapload of messages when the box boots
Crap, looks like debian defaults to only a weeks worth of log files
Hmmmm weird... uptime says 123 days, yet mrtg says 24 days.
07:50:20 up 123 days, 9:48, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
The statistics were last updated Saturday, 7 June 2008 at 7:50,
at which time 'banshee' had been up for 24 days, 17:52:11.
Hitting the gun show today, hopefully they'll have some toys there
Buy Ammo! ( While you still can.)
SkullWorks_PGAB: Actually, that was my exact reason for going. Secondly if they have anything else I may wnat.
SkullWorks_PGAB: There's a bill to limit ammo purchases in Calif, same with you?
* SkullWorks_PGAB uses an empty 100lb Powder keg as a clothes hamper.
no not here yet...
SkullWorks_PGAB: and 20 full kegs to mount the washer on?
SkullWorks_PGAB: Oh, you just heard about the bill?
I do have 2 Dillon's ( a XL650 and RL450)
SkullWorks_PGAB: I was just wondering why you said buy ammo while I still can.
yeah - I grew up in the L.A. area, still have many friends there.
Thanks to the lottery I got a priceless college education.
Now that I think about it, that's a lot of ammo.... 9mm, 38, 25, 22, 10ga, and I have nfc what the winchester takes, never fired it.
CA started pouring money into the schools and they created some great (but short lived) programs.
Yeah lottery helped our schools my ass.
OMG - Your a 10ga. shooter too!
SkullWorks_PGAB: Welllll, sorta kinda.... I can't take it to "public" ranges though.
Same with the winchester
but back during Reagan - The defense industry was in full production - the colleges had work/study placement programs that gave you real world training - none of that type of stuff is being made now.
The winchester was a real working gun at the time with the Texas Rangers, and well during it's usage part of the SN had been rubbed off, so I'm leary of taking it out in public.
I had a 38 S&W like that - but there was a 2nd serial# stamped inside - under the top strap.
This thing has had so many repairs done to it over the years... The stock has copper wire wrapped aorund and soldered where it split once. So unless I "unsolder" it I can't remove the stock.
2008 - 1884 = long ass time =)
What ammo does a winchester rifle use?
joedj: libogc-20080602 here .. you may be right
is that a ball and cap gun??
heh, no. lever action
it should have a chamber guage stamped on it somewhere??
looks like it might be 38-40 WCF-caliber
I'll have to pull it out and look
or measure the bore
that age im guessing 30 or 30 caliber
could be a 30-30
Maybe I'll ask around at the gun show today
theres a thought... 8-)
oh wiat, it's NEXT weekend, damn.
[15:24:46] <JymmmEMC> http://www.tsgunshows.com/index.htm#
looks like that would be fun
I'll have to see if it'll be cheaper to buy at the show or at the local store... 1000rnds of 9mm (target stuff) is $200
that sounds pretty good to me
Jym - try 44-40
SkullWorks_PGAB: Is that a range ?
they fit and shoot out of a 410 shotgun
measure the bore
no 44-40 is a cartridge
like 30-30? But what do the numbers represent?
yes... and can be fired from a 410 guage shotgun
diam x length?
dia and black powder charge
.4440 dia. chamber bore
no - smaller
let me grab a book
listen... a 303 has a round .303" in dia... a 30-06 is .3006" dia... follow me
Dmess - both 303 and 30-06 use .308" projectiles...
the 303 is the bore before being rifled
shotguns is different...but the inside of your riffling is 303
30-06 stands for Caliber 30 adopted (19)06
shotguns its the # of lead balls of that dia. to make a pound...
except for the .410... go figure
OK - a 44-40 uses a .427" bullet, the case is necked down a bit, the shoulder is .927 to 1.017 from the case head.
Ok, so what does the "44" and the "40 represent?
.44" is the dia of the case at the mouth with a bullet seated. and used 40 grains of black powder
just like 380 acp
ah, hmmm, 40gr dont seem like much
380 is the dia of the case mouth
well - 9mm uses about 5gr of smokeless
45acp uses 5.5
I just bought a box of target, which is like 138 grain
thats bullet weight, not powder weight
I always thought that was powder
they rarely tell you what powder or how much.
factory loads are just sold - they don't want someone trying to duplicate there load, then have problems and try to sue them for bad info.
we use to do our own loading at the gun shop i worked at...
i use to hunt with my moose masher .303 loads....
I use one of these to make ammo for my subguns http://www.magmaengr.com/item.php?id=33
we prep'd and delivered all the weapons used in the rambo series of movies...
yeah I like it - that and buying powder by the case (4x8lb kegs) is the only way I can afford to shot thoses bullet hoses.
SkullWorks_PGAB: Let me guess, you store the poweder kegs near the open-flame water heater, right?
only the empty ones...
heh, how much powder is in each keg? 40lbs?
normally 8lbs per keg
ah, ok. you burry the or anything?
[16:13:32] <SkullWorks_PGAB> http://www.eaglebit.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EB-190-00280&Click=12666
- Netmos PCI dual paraport
still have 1300lbs of lead ingots stacked in the corner of the kitchen
its a very small pile
OT: is MathML supposed to work for rendering math in HTML with current IE or FF browsers?
are the right fonts installed and such?
hm, maybe it's just wordpress that doesn't like mathml, this page seems to work ok http://lwlss.net/FrequencyExample.mml
awallin: looks like it's been years since w3.org tried to answer that question: http://www.w3.org/Math/iandi/
-- my impression is that mathml is not that lively.
awallin: try mathbin
wait thats pretty much all latex
gezr: thanks, I'll try that.
its nothing that solves math, just a way to input it
you would think that math would already be in latex
open office has a math application as well
I need the images for blog posts. There's a latex plugin for wordpress but that requires latex installed on the server (my ISP doesn't have latex)
with openoffice math, you can export them as pdf
and save them as mathml
I was just searching for ways to get svg into latex, and saw a reasonable number of packages to do the reverse
it's all fenn's fault, he got me started with inkscape
my son has been catching ants to feed to his carnivorous plant
for a vmware ubuntu install, are there ready-made non-realtime sim packages of emc2? or do I need to compile from source?
yes, see http://www.linuxcnc.org/dapper/emc2-install-sim.sh
fenn, thanks, I'm just upgrading my vmware install to hardy
ah, then i dont know if it works
well, there was a diference between 15ft lbs and 26lbs, meant almost stripping out a tapped hole, well, I did strip it, but not bad enough that its not going to work
awalli1 - Could you put more specifics about your spindle motor VFD combo on your blog?
Nice work BTW.
SkullWorks_PGAB: yeah, if you remind me often enough. Do you mean the VFD-motor connection or more about the way emc2 controls the VFD?
actual motor and VFD combo, mainly
awalli1: vmware what? workstation? server? fusion?
actually I took a pic of the jury-rigged spindle encoder today... let me dig it out of the phone
might also add the snip of code that had the G33.1 in it for the 5 hole sequence.
JymmmEMC: server I guess, the program I use for running ubuntu as a guest os on top of winxp
awalli1: WEll, it could be either, I was just asking which it was.
fusion == mac
jymmm is a vmware nerd
It really is pretty awesome
On my MBP, I have 3 XP VM's + two CentOS VM's. I can backup, copy, and move the VM's to any box (even live) and it's done.
here's the encoder that enabled the now-oh-so-famous youtube rigid tapping videos: http://imagebin.ca/view/PmwSYlCX.html
looks professional doesn't it? with a piece of plastic tubing as an axis coupler...
Not sure if an update is a "good thing"? Take a snapshot, upgrade, if it does bad things, restore the snapshot.
iv been leary of upgrading too
dmess: Well, this is with anything actually. Either production, or just tesitng in a dev environment
If something ever happened to our 8 cpu box, we cna toss up individual boxes and a VM to eahc box and we're up and going again.
hey you python guys. if i modify pyvcp_widgets.py, do i need to recompile emc2?
no, don't think so
what changes are you planning?
thanks. you're the right guy. i want a rectanglar LED.
i want to replace create_oval with create_rectangle.
the led shape could be made an option for the <led> tag, either round or square
or do you really want the rectangular with different height and width?
i like big visible shapes that fill an hbox or a vbox.
JymmmEMC: are these problems are read about with VMware Tools and Ubuntu 8.04 real, or can I just go ahead and install vmware tools?
Roguish: if this light ever lights - run!
something like that.
also, how do i center the current LED in an hbox?
center the current LED?
I don't remember if there is anything for centering. probably not. try reading the tkinter docs
12:58 < Roguish> thanks. you're the right guy. i want a rectanglar LED.
omg software widget leds?
i thought you guys were doing something fun =(
python virtual LEDs...
didn't I see that on a star trek episode?
there is 'justify' under standard options, but it is not listed as an option in frame.
how 'bout in the xml?
there might be a list of allowed options in pyvcp_widgets.py you could add justify there and try it
all pyvcp widgets inherit from tkinter, so if justify is an allowed option for a tkinter frame, then it should be possible to try it fairly easily with pyvcp
I'm still setting up my vmware server and 8.04 but I might take a look later
it is not listed in the options for 'frame' http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TkCmd/frame.htm
could you use a 3x3 grid layout and put the widget you want centered in the middle cell?
* awalli1 is rebooting...
Um I have no idea of what problems tthat you read about, as I didn't read them
Though, I probably wouldn't run ubuntu on xp, as much as xp on ubuntu
or XP in any nix for that matter.
Are Jon or Jeff online?
awalli1, yes, guess i could do it with a table.
Roguish: ok... let us know if you make any successful mods to pyvcp_widgets
kirk_wallace, who wants to know?
I have been working on my inductor heating problem through e-mail and thought being on realtime might help.
with 50kHz PWM from the m5i20 my three PWM amps from Jon never get even mildly hot (this is the heatsink, I haven't touched the inductors)
awallin, wasn't that you who wanted the 100-MHz timebase added to the Mesa PWM?
SWPadnos: yes, exactly. Jon suggested I use them at 50 kHz and peter W produced a 100 MHz clock config very quickly for me
the 100 MHz fpga configs are in cvs but you have to load them yourself with m5i20cfg
I have a Pluto at 19.5(?)kHz and 53 VDC for the motor supply. The inductors got hot enough to slightly discolor the varnish.
my DC supply is around 80 V and I guess the motors draw something like 2-4 A routinely with up to 10 A momentarily
that's probably too hor
It hot enough that you absolutely know you shouldn't touch them but you want to anyway.
awallin: I have no idea what problems you read about
and others feel compelled to say "don't touch!"
SWPadnos: FYI... linksys has a 23p mgnt switch with rate shaping for $450
JymmmEMC: something about the newest vmware server having vmware tools not very compatible with 8.04, but maybe that's fixed already
SWPadnos: 10/100/1000 =) with two miniGBIC ports even
kirk_wallace: did you look at the PWM with a scope? did you make sure it's pwm all the way and not flat-lining at either logic '1' or logic '0' when commanded pwm is either at 0% or at 100%
SWPadnos: Even has mac/ip/service ACL's too
SWPadnos: per port or vlan
was taht typo? is it 24 port?
I only used a voltmeter to do a sanity check.
SWPadnos: they have both 24 and 48 port verions
yes, "taht" was a typo :)
SWPadnos: either learn typo or read the damn link =)
kirk_wallace: are you monitoring the commanded PWM ? does it go near 100%? or are the inductors heating up even when the motors stand still?
I was thinking a WRT54GL would do shaping, but with only four ports.
I read the link after asking, of course
kirk_wallace: not out of the box, maybe via OpenWRT
this is out of the box
it's a managed switch
Oops, I meant with OpenWRT. I don't know about anything else.
The ONLY thing I don't like about it is has Telnet and TFPT
SWPadnos: Heh, the default baud rate on the serial port is 38000 too =)
of course :)
at least it's not 9600
SWPadnos: That' always been the defacto standard
Whats this serial port connector on my car? Well set term to 9600 and find out!
yep - lots of things default to that
black box with db9 connector??? toss on a 9600 terminal and connect
I've seen 9600, 19.2k and 38.4k on various things
SWPadnos: When it's crap like that, bugs the crap out of me as is it baud rate, straight, null, custom pinout, etc
SWPadnos: Like cisco console cable... fuckers jsut fliped it instead of using a null modem
so I have to carry around all these adapters
s9/25 pin, DCE or DTE, null modem, gender, hardware/software/no handshaking, then you get into the baud rates, start/stop bits and parity
thousands of standards to choose from!
all one low price!
8N1 is usually same across (for the most part)
I remember a serial break-out box that did all of the pin sorting for you.
or 7E1 ...
I havne't seen anything that out of the box used 7e1
SWPadnos; that's what's so good about standards, there's so many to choose from
SWPadnos: 7E1, is that a telecom thing?
some industrial dtuff does, I think
I think my Cisco router admin port is that way(7e1 or 2?)
Since you are on the subject, does anyone know of a good linux PC to T1 configuration?
maybe look at hardware that works with Asterisk as a starting point
[21:08:41] <SWPadnos> http://www.digium.com/en/products/digital/
* JymmmEMC configs the pxe server
I think I sent them some e-mail inquiries, but got no real information back.
I will be using the T1 for Internet only, and needed to know which of their products would be most appropriate.
Their cards aren't cheap ether.
ah. yeah, I don't really know what works well. I guess I'd take a look at the kernel config page for ISDN or "Other" networking devices
The other thing is, I got this Cisco out of the trash for free, it's plugged in and seems to be working.
Cool! The PXE is up and running =)
Cool! The PXE serveris up and running, and jsut booted off it =)
SWPadnos: Hey, I just found a great use for the artigo box =)
grab the iso, then head over here http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_PXE_network_booting
I want to toss this on a thumbstick then I'll edit the files.
SWPadnos: One semi-screwy thing... either make the pxe server 192.168.1.1 and change the conf script, or make it 192.168.1.5 instead
heh - that does sound screwy
they defaulted to .5 instead of .1 but eh, I guess not to conflist with any router you have on the lan
Hmmm, let me try with 10.0.0.5 and see what happens
fenn: is it flooding near you?
skunkworks: it was a couple days ago
oh - I thought I cought more flooding today on the news.
It is raining hard here again
little bit of hail earlier
was it really hot a couple of days ago?
not that I remember.
ok. then maybe we won't get hail in a couple of days
I guess we're getting someone else's used weather
it got to around 90 today
it has been really cool here
for the most part. a bit humid yesterday - but still not that hot
SWPadnos: Stop stealing the neighbors wifi that has been rooted from some place in russia
uh - ok
been there, done that. why the hell you thin you got crappy weather reports for.... DUH!
see you. it's dinner time ;)
better than hammer time
sam, you ever try to add current limiting?
not yet. been busy. if you go thru my thread on cnczone - someone added it to their circuit. i have not looked at it
[22:48:41] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25929
I found a neat book at half-price books today, for $6
so it normally costs $12?
"Modern Metal Cutting", by Sandvik, circa mid 90's
probably more than that
800 or so pages
all about what actually goes on when metal meets tool
edges, chip formation and breaking, etc
sounds neat but very dry reading
handy when you have insomnia
remember the big chips at mpm?
I just ran across a pic that makes them look small
guy holding a spiral chip, his left hand holds one end, below his waist, the other end is eye height
looks like the chip is about 1-1/2" wide, 1/8" thick, and formed into about a 4" diameter spiral
I made some like that today
well, maybe a bit smaller
lots of 5/8 drilling in steel
lathing on the bport again?
what are you making?
that's what low gear is for. it works so great
more bus tank mounting work
you ain't got that done yet?
jmkasunich: that's a good book- and worth the gloat at that price:) I paid full:<
whatcha waiting for? milking the job?
crotchetyGuy: any recollection of what full price is?
more like second-guessing the design over and over, combined with procrastination
no, not really-
been a while
in fact I specialize in it
also, ever drilled 5/8 holes in a bus frame?
no, can't say I have
jmkasunich: yes, I think it's close competition, but you're at least as good as me at it
I can say it would be unpleasant
rented one of those magnetic drill press thingies
there is no substitute for pressure
it works great but weighs 700lb
there's a reason they call it a drill _press_
well maybe 100, I dunno
how the heck to you place it?
gets f-ing heavy after a while
* jmkasunich failed to recognize exageration
one large guy (I imagine), or two normal people
I bet it would be simple if you were drilling down, not horizontal
about $90 for the weekend rental though, ouch
I saw something on the interwebs years ago - a clamp-like drill portable drill press that let you apply tremendous pressure to the drill tip
such that you could drill tough steel using very low speeds - turning the drill with a crank basically
I bet it doesn't take many turns for a big hole if you have enough pressure
thats the idea
wish I could find it again
if you can drill .010/tooth, that's 12 turns for 1/4" steel
but that's twice what I was doing on the bp
it was 200rpm 2ipm I think
[23:17:21] <jmkasunich> http://www.dogpatch.com/bobp/shop/cole_drill.jpg
ah it screws down
turn the handle a rev, then tighten the hex
[23:19:52] <jmkasunich> http://literature.rustyiron.com/ColeDrill.pdf
hey all, is there a pin, parameter, or signal for the current feed rate? i've looked, but cannot seem to find one.