WHO know of horizontal/rotary boring mills??
jig boring mills too
i NEED a list..
thats about all you need to look at, they are pretty much the standard bear on jig/boring mills, moore
dmess: are you talking odd mfg's
or do you need the standard fare like G&L, Lucas, Devleig, etc
gezr: Moore never made a boring mill
Porteba, Tos, Wotan are a couple more mfg's off the top of my head
Titan, I think
Mitsubishi made a couple
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I wonder when they left
als oh, yeah, I did great in school, thanks for asking Ithink
now to work on the sugar cube machine? or summer school
summer school starts morrow, been working on a bike, ill p ost the pics, sorry about messytyping, got gloves on, painting
I have no excuse!
[16:02:13] <gezr> http://picasaweb.google.com/dagezar/K100Restoration
thats pretty much up to date with things
getting parts in on wensday to allow me to finish putting the engine together
im still not happy withthe exhaust cover paint job, its a ceramic paint in a gloss, and it reallyhard to get that gloss look withoutthe beads showing up
i have afew funny spot on it, so i guess ill take the gloves off and be happy
I alreadystripped it once
and talked some about the sugar cube mill yesterday, I think I can do it here at home, but ill have to break the pieces up into smaller bits, no big deal
so Ill have x and y machined as seperate parts, then pin/screw them together
was trying to keep the base one solid piece but if I break it up, Ill be able to use a box style way, with T type hold
and im going to shoot for .001-.002 play between surfaces, and run them on a film of grease
or oil, grease may be too thick
./end wall of text
oh, I had to toss out ubuntu, I dont like it at all, so ill be needing to do a compile after all
did yo udecide you don't like Ubuntu, or that you don't like Gnome?
its Ubuntu, Ive been a debian user for a long time, and I didnt like the way in which ubuntu had some things limited
I tired to merge it over to debian sid, and ended up with breaking some things
well, that's bound to happen ;)
there are some packages and placements I didnt like
BigJohnT: the probe I have IS a MP700
ubuntu is great, dont mistake that, I just do a lot more with my linux boxes,
oh - no worries. I'm just curious
so I have to relearn cvs, all the good stuff,
then I can get to work on fixing things :)
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2008-05-30.txt
jepler: my module is not simple python module
it is simmilar to yours emcmodule.cc file
I don't wan't to modify yours but test my own in source tree of emc\
micges: oh, I must have misunderstood what you said.
micges: refer to src/emc/usr_intf/axis/Submakefile to see how other Python modules are linked. Or, consider adding support for the additional nml messages inside extensions/emcmodule.cc rather than in a new module
roughly: add your source file(s) to PYSRCS (line 6 in my copy), then add a new rule similar to $(EMCMODULE) (line 22 in my copy), and add that to PYTARGETS (line 39 in my copy).
jepler: this was useful thanks
BigJohnT: I also emailed renishaw for information about the receiver options. Looks like I need either "OMI" or "OMM"+"MI12" to go with my MP700
BigJohnT: now I will start preparing myself so I remember to continue breathing when I see their prices
you know it's bad news when they hide the prices so you have to ask
it's a health risk to publish them
Yea, I hate that with a passion
me too. I just go on to another company if at all possible.
so ive got my aluminum blocks out, and im looking at machine size stuff atm
or hot wire it :)
I have thought about that, but I would hate to take it apart
helicopter john took his apart!
it cost him $980 to get it put back together
but he didn't MEAN to...
what did he do? just smash it into something?
"Note how my Haas VF3 effortlessly attempts to mill steel with my Renishaw wireless probe"
I wonder if dial indicators or probes cut better
how fast we going to spin it?
I wonder if anyone wants to sacrifice their indicators and probes so we can find out
I always put the machine in neutral before I insert my (very nice) DTI
all in the name of science, of coure
so im looking at my aluminum, and im thinking my machine is going to look really ugly
because who knows what brain malfunction I might have
gezr, that's what anodizing is for
we recently powder coated some aluminum. it looks very nice.
of course anodizing is better (harder) but if it's for looks, this is much easier
dimensional stability is a bit better with anodizing
doesnt aluminum aneal at 400deg?
I don't know
we did bake it at around 400? 450?
i know you can heat treat it in a oven
7075 is 775 degrees
[17:03:22] <SWPadnos> http://www.suppliersonline.com/propertypages/7075.asp
there are probably other alloys listed there
BigJohnT: you there?
so your really good with solid works?
Im having trouble with my machine design here
well, not really, what Im having trouble with, is I dont want to cut my aluminum
dont really want to make a mistake
I guess how it looks shouldnt be something for me to worry about?
plan on making a mistake or two - it's more fun :)
mistakes are called experiance
and the amount of stock you're looking at is pretty inexpensive
if you make no mistakes, you aren't learning anything
im taking the nasa approach to this
or doing anything
would rather land then bounce
I mean, ive got a nice 1x3x8 inch piece of aluminum
3x3 is going to take up the Y axis and the wings to mount it to the X
NASA breaks a lot of stuff before they build anything useful - it's intentional
ok, soft gooey stuff
its not the material im worried about, its like this, the motors, are 1/3 the size of the way surfaces
I guess I should just get to it
leave it bulky and nasty
go go gadget haxsaw. afk
go get em gezr
omg not owning a saw sucks
we cut 6061 with the table saw if < 0.500" thick
was there a change to G64 that now also allows belnding of arc moves? Will that be in 2.2 anytime soon? or just for 2.3?
I favor a getting it into 2.2.next.
So we have it at Fest.
ok. I have a machine and G-code where it could make a difference, so would like to test it when it's available in a release (maybe not wise to run a machine with TRUNK ?)
I dont see any real problems with running trunk but then I compile all the time.
And expect to find a few issues.
You might set up both on the machine.
I'm not sure it qualifies as a bug-fix though
shapping has to be one of the most fun metal cutting way
awallin: I'm running my plasma on pre 2.3 with the G64
alex_joni: it bugged me!
it's not finished yet anyway, unless someone added the G18/G19 code
evening all, btw does anyone know if the HAL can support IO on the cts/rts/dsr/dtr pins on a serial interface?
it's called "serport"
(the driver that does that)
ahh ok cool, i just had a quick scan through the integrators guide but must have missed that, i'll do a quick search, thanks
hmmm. maybe it's called hal_serport?? :)
ah yes i've found the info on the wiki, just what i was looking for, thanks for the pointer
also man serport should tell you something
ok great, i'll give that a try
BigJohnT: if your still there, ill be uploading a photo really shortly
awallin: the change to arcs in tolerance mode will not go in 2.2; it's not a bugfix.
awallin: it'll be in 2.3 unless problems turn up and taking it out turns out to be easier than fixing it.
BigJohnT: whats your email?
arcs are already blended. this change only helps skip through tiny useless arcs.
jet1024 at semo dot net
and does that well cradek
I see you like hershey kissies
wife left me a few out to enjoy today :)
does that give you a better look at it?
the main block with y on it, is 3x3
the other blocks are just fillers
yea, I kinda though made up of smaller blocks
I have something at home that I can share this evening
that looks a bit better then the solid y and x piece, its going to be a bit longer then I wanted but should be cool
if you do it in 3d for me (which im hopping for, make the channel for the screw .75" deep, screw center is about .5 down
ill probably make the bottom of the channel rounded or have a \_/ type shape, not sure yet
\__/ I mean
what I have is just the generic shape/idea you would have to adjust it to the size you need
im thinking for limit switches, just drilling holes into the sides, and putting like a reed set in there
good night all
SWPadnos: ever used ferrites on flatbands for noise? loop thru or clamp on or is it as useful as swinging a dead cat overhread?
what is the program one runs to find out how much real time delay one has. Mine is horrific and I never corrected for it, might b e part of the problem?!?
run latency-test from terminal
& read on the wiki to evaluate the results
skunkworks: Thanks. Something weird about this machine that occasionally makes for a HORRID delay. Gonna see about getting the numbers (as absurd as they are) and see if that helps any,
Looked for it on the wiki, that is why I asked here :).
search latency? i get http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test
np. can be confuzin
[21:07:03] <K`zan_emc> http://linuxcnc.org/docview/html/
- if it is there I'm not having any luck :-(. No idea which of the two numbers (Max Jitter) servo thread or base thread is the one that is important (and if one isn't, why is it there?!?)
" There should be no overruns, and "lat max" should probably be below your BASE_PERIOD setting. "
oh, this is the 2 differnt test scenario, i got caught in that myself....
at the last posted url, use the last posted evaluation
and use the test technique at the last posted url
Interesting (and frustrating:), what I get is a window with those things updating in it - nothing on the terminal useful.
you used http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test
instead of http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting#RTAI_Latency_test,
and yes, you get a pop up
Also interesting, I have onboard video...
some people get away with it, ( sometimes you feel like a nut ....)
It sure seems that this celeron 2G is klunky as hell, my 2.2G AMD runs rings around it.
Was under the impression that the celeron was pretty quick. May be the onboard video that is causing the problem too. Need to track down a PCI card for it - no AGP on this thing.
SO many potential areas for problems.
celerons have tiny cache so their performance is terrible even if they have a high clock rate
Ah, no wonder it was a freebie. Might be better off with that old Thunderbird 1100 in the closet?
I don't know what a thunderbird is
Old AMD, preceeded the Athlon or maybe it is the earliest of the Athlons - 5+ year old machine...
And it takes AGP cards.
don't know, sorry, but couldn't hurt to try it
Might well, that message I get about extreme delays rather frequently I don't like.
Not sure that is the reason that my moves don't move all the way, probably not, but...
realtime errors WILL cause steppers to stall
Took me an hour or so beating hell out of the box to get that huge jitter number before. Will putz and let it run.
I did not see your numbers
I forget what they were but the impression was it was pretty awful.
I never put anything in stepconf for it. Sorta forgot about it with all else that was going on.
servo: 38357; base 47929
civilization is restored!
did you have weather?
I don't think it was weather - it seems like it is gonna storm this evening, but it hasn't yet
power just went out for no apparent reason
(at work and at home)
apt-get source rtai-3.3 ... E: Unable to find a source package for rtai-3.3. Sigh, LOL.
that's not the right name
Sigh, screw it.
look at your installed packages
This damn intel mb goes directly in the shitter. Tired of screwing with it.
BigJohnT: hmm, its oh, it may still be uploading?
its not showing up for whatever reason, maybe the img type?
gezr: does the 3-d cad look close to your picture?
Its not loading for some reason
let me check it
can you see yours http://imagebin.ca/view/e0gNvkt5.html
tif v jpg
I can see a little mill in there if I look at it just right
there's some extra aluminum in the way though
I think you need a mill to mill the mill out of those blocks
or a hacksaw and file, and a lot of patience
let me save it as a jpg and try again
* BigJohnT is going out to the shop
gezr: did you see the second one
BigJohnT: that looks great
thank you, I just got back to the keyboard, filling my head with ideas now :)
there you go then you got the ball run with it
a picture makes it easier to understand...
* BigJohnT goes back out to the shop