#emc | Logs for 2008-05-16

[00:02:29] <dmess> a friend from the UK tells me there aer legal KITS to put that engine in MANY 4 wheel cars
[00:06:29] <dmess> tomp2.... you a gear head??? gimme your e mail
[00:07:39] <tomp2> i love machines, not much of a gear head wiht e-bikes and 1990 honda wagovan , but tompDASHtagATsbcglobalDOTnet
[00:10:09] <dmess> chk..tag??
[00:14:01] <dmess> a good friend is into e-bikes ..... could i send him your e-mail???
[00:14:25] <dmess> addy that is
[00:16:51] <dmess> sorry tomp2
[00:45:10] <tomp2> tag is right, np
[00:45:46] <tomp2> tag is the Airtight Garage or Tom's Arbeit Gruppe as you wish
[12:37:26] <ALS> Hardy install? when I use the partitioner in manual I made a / mount 10224mb and made a swap 360mb and no /home could this be why I get bad cd or hard drive error?
[12:44:09] <jepler> ALS: 10GB for the root (only) partition and 360MB swap should be perfectly acceptable.
[12:48:33] <ALS> I shouldn't have to go to advanced to choose boot loader should I?
[12:49:54] <alex_joni> no, default foo should be ok
[12:50:16] <alex_joni> morning jeff
[12:50:55] <ALS> and Its the last hard drive 110 gig deep
[13:04:33] <jblb> hi
[13:04:47] <Guest382> hi !
[15:33:28] <cradek> * cradek cringes at "everyone I know shares my one license for this commercial software using ssh" on the list
[15:33:54] <archivist> hehe
[15:35:58] <archivist> I wish I was rich enough to buy licenses, till then its open sauce for me
[15:44:28] <tom1> What video driver am I using? I'm on Hardy Heron, and I see no driver listed listed in /etc/X11, except xorg.conf says 'Configured Video Device' and 'Default Screen'... whazzat? what happened to entries like vga,nv, etc?
[15:53:33] <jepler> tom1: it looks like the following command will tell you (at least, on my system it identified the driver as intel): grep "Loading.*drivers" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:53:57] <jepler> tom1: you can still switch to vesa by inserting the line 'Driver "vesa"' in the Device section.
[15:57:50] <tom1> the only hint to your video driver is hidden in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, now why is it so doggy in 8.04 and snappy in 6.60?
[15:58:03] <tom1> jepler right, i found it
[15:58:09] <tom1> will try vesa now
[15:58:23] <tom1> thx
[15:58:42] <cradek> the trend is to autoconfigure more and more of X, to make it easier when you change video cards, mice, etc.
[15:58:59] <tom1> this is way easier :)
[16:09:46] <tom1> now in vesa, that worked, thanks.
[17:44:43] <K`zan> http://wrlabs.shacknet.nu/~vw/MyMachineShop/PipeDreamMill/PDM-V2/
[17:45:15] <K`zan> Reworked Z axis and addition of the flex shaft - replacing the dremel. Will be testing it today...
[17:52:05] <archivist> cat has no captions
[17:54:37] <archivist> what are you intending to make on the machine
[17:59:54] <tom1> I get unexpected realtime delays when i run emc2 (simaxis,tkemc or mini).
[17:59:54] <tom1> I have matrox mga millenium and vesa driver.
[17:59:54] <tom1> Following notes on wiki, i have disabled apm acpi smi and irqs for vga and usb.
[17:59:54] <tom1> Dmesg shows "[ 148.183309] 66: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay: check dmesg for details."
[17:59:54] <tom1> When i search for similar on web, i see others get '6', not '66', any significance?
[18:07:26] <alex_joni> no
[18:07:31] <alex_joni> tom1: run a latency-test
[18:07:36] <alex_joni> and look for overruns
[18:11:20] <tom1> ok,. can do, but this happens when i run emc2
[18:11:22] <tom1> [ 148.183331] In recent history there were
[18:11:23] <tom1> [ 148.183334] 802020, 803354, 801910, 798507, and 807939
[18:11:23] <tom1> [ 148.183337] elapsed clocks between calls to the motion controller.
[18:11:23] <tom1> [ 148.183346] This time, there were 3471498 which is so anomalously
[18:11:59] <SWPadnos> what speed CPU?
[18:12:18] <tom1> 6x133 comes to mind...
[18:12:33] <SWPadnos> 800MHz, and this is the servo thread?
[18:13:01] <SWPadnos> (looks like it, with the 800k clock "normal" period)
[18:13:10] <tom1> dont understand, the msg didnt identify thread
[18:13:22] <SWPadnos> no, it wouldn't - just wondering
[18:13:57] <tom1> ran stock emc2, asked for sim axis, did not copy/edit anything
[18:14:23] <tom1> will try latency test too
[18:14:51] <jepler> at 800MHz that's about 4ms; pretty severe if it's real.
[18:15:26] <tom1> i never ran latency test from installed, only run-in-place, checking wiki...
[18:16:29] <tom1> found it
[18:17:46] <tom1> running
[18:21:58] <tom1> oops, run gimp and now have 6572 overruns, new mobo time?
[18:22:37] <tom1> was there ever a recommended hdwr list? or similar?
[18:31:48] <tom1> the bottom of this page has some mobos that have passed some tests http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Hardware_Requirements
[18:56:10] <Hugomatic> Thank you for the Hardy Heron Live CD. I am downloading it right now. Is there any plan for a 64bit version as well?
[18:56:37] <tom1> and rt hardware evaluations here http://www.rtai.dk/cgi-bin/gratiswiki.pl?Hardware
[19:00:22] <jepler> hugomatic: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?64BitSupport
[19:15:53] <dimas_> hi all
[19:16:17] <dimas_> I have one L297 driver board soldered
[19:17:20] <dimas_> cold I connect it and others one by one to the interface board and test and tune from computer
[19:17:39] <dimas_> what should I read about those steps?
[19:28:16] <K`zan> Where does the Hardy Heron Live CD live? If it was posted, it scrolled off. Perhaps my wireless might work with that ?!?
[19:33:15] <Hugomatic> jepler: thanks. K zan: you can find the link in the news section of the linuxcnc.org home page http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj07-i386.iso
[19:35:51] <K`zan> Hugomatic: :-), duhh, thanks, long night :).
[19:37:48] <dimas_> * dimas_ is reading Integrator Manual..
[19:46:50] <jepler> dimas_: yes, you can run emc with just one motor actually connected, and tune the current, velocity and acceleration of just that motor.
[19:47:27] <jepler> make sure you observe the instructions of your motor driver regarding changing the current settings and attaching the motors (e.g., some chips will fry if you adjust the current limit while the motor is attached, or if you (un)attach the motor while it's powered)
[20:00:09] <dimas_> jepler: thanks
[20:00:47] <dimas_> I still need to solder an interface board
[21:06:19] <dimas_> halcmd: addf freqgen.update_freq slow
[21:06:20] <dimas_> halcmd: addf freqgen.make_pulses fast
[21:06:50] <dimas_> are these lines from Integrator Manual not correct?
[21:07:33] <dimas_> freqgen.update-freq freqgen.make-pulses passed
[21:08:33] <SWPadnos> ug - those lines are correct, if you use freqgen (I think)
[21:08:47] <SWPadnos> what did you do, and why do you ask if the manual is incorrect?
[21:09:20] <dimas_> halcmd: addf freqgen.update_freq slow
[21:09:20] <dimas_> HAL: ERROR: function 'freqgen.update_freq' not found
[21:09:20] <dimas_> <stdin>:23: addf failed
[21:09:20] <dimas_> halcmd:
[21:09:33] <SWPadnos> oh, that would explain it :)
[21:09:37] <SWPadnos> one sec
[21:10:32] <dimas_> just passing through examples in hal tutorial
[21:10:59] <alex_joni> dimas_: take notes where you need to type different things
[21:11:06] <alex_joni> we'll update it then..
[21:11:20] <SWPadnos> freqgen is deprecated anyway, so that should probably be changed to stepgen with ctrl_type=v
[21:12:07] <SWPadnos> those should be hyphens instead of underscores
[21:12:21] <SWPadnos> oh - duh. that's what you were saying :)
[21:12:29] <dimas_> yes
[21:12:54] <alex_joni> I think at some point all things changed from _ to -
[21:13:14] <dimas_> alex_joni: wiki notes?
[21:13:33] <alex_joni> dimas_: whatever is easier for you, an simple email is also enough
[21:14:52] <dimas_> ok
[21:46:31] <alex_joni> * alex_joni is off to bed..
[21:46:35] <alex_joni> good night all
[21:50:23] <tom1> gnite alex
[21:50:58] <tom1> maybe those who have running systems could fill out this wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TestedHardware
[21:52:45] <tom1> i only found Ray's jetway systems ( single pci slot but ultra lo power ) actually say they ran emc2. there's gotta be others, and the devs must have some of those.
[21:53:10] <tom1> make that 'ran emc2 with lo latency'
[22:14:05] <tom1> i dont doubt lots of people run emc2, i just have to replace a system and needed a suggestion. isaw nothing wrong with this unit when i got it.
[22:49:53] <tomp2> np, cleared 2 partitions on another box that runs 2.4 ok, got faster processor, more mem & no onboard vid, heh, will stamp an FDA approval on it if it flies
[22:50:42] <tomp2> gotta get some install cds next, bye
[23:00:47] <K`zan> looks like I got some flaky ram in the second stick, is 512M enough for EMC?
[23:11:34] <fenn> plenty
[23:13:05] <K`zan> fenn: Thanks!