hmmm, still can't see the files in the file browser...
I'm trying to download java jdk from IBM, and their registration process isn't working
good night all
and to all a night good
what smells like smoke are you burning something ?
oh nm thats me
someone light a fire under my ass
how's it going?
pulling my hair out
I got a cd that I can't seem to see the all the files on
the cd is owned by root, I've tried every way I can think of to do it
it has Dev-C++ on it
how was it generated?
came with a book on C++
I even copied it to my windoz box and used the network to copy it to my LInux machine...
you can't access it, even then?
I can see some files but not the Dev-C++ install file.
is it a Windows executable?
when i copied it from my windoz box it won't execute it
it must be
did you try wine?
if it's an *.exe , you might want to try wine then
I'm using wine pretty successfully here
crap, on page 395 it says it is a windoz file
running autocad, vectorcam, etc...
I have to go and download the linux one...
if it's an exe just to uncompress the the files, then it should be easy enough for wine
anyhow did you look at the truetype-tracer file?
I've used ttt before. it's great
are you writing a tkinter gui for it?
I want to add some funtionalily to it
like where to place the letters and what size
so I'm brushing up on C++
you can set the size in the g-code globally
but yes, to add that at the gui would be cool
yes, I see that but I have no idea what scale is what...
I might port it to python dunno at this point
in python the GUI would be easy for me...
DanielFalck:is wine part of ubuntu,or does it have to be added?
you can add it by using synaptic
k,will check into that,did you ever do anything with the tlo program i pasted awhile back
I got side tracked a bit
[00:48:00] <Unit41> http://18.104.22.168/~metix/mypad/100_1531.jpg
did you do any more with it?
I had fun playing with python interacting with emc though
no,its being used full time in a machine shop environment however,and on my mill,and on the trade school mill
you gonna be at the fest this year?
hammerschlag: what program is that?
hammerschlag: I won't be able to make it. Wish I could
a program that writes your z axis position to the tool table
i can post it if you wanna play with it
please do that
there are a bunch of python bindings to emc that you would be interested in BigJohnT
[00:52:40] <hammerschlag> http://pastebin.ca/906835
I need to dig a bit, but hammerschlag (jljvm) has some of it in his code
then the stuff like s= emc.stat()
or I mean s.position
I'm guessing you need to run this from EMC?
no, you can have emc running and then issue the commands from a seperate python process
somewhere, I have some notes and I can't seem to find them
i just made a launcher in my lower toolbar,position z axis,fire up tlo9,enter tool number,press enter
also an option for diameter and gauge block height also
hmmm, I get an error on line 19 s.poll()
I think it is because the configuration is hard coded...
hmm,its working here,im running 2.2.3
I'll have to look at it later, the dinner bell rang and I'm never late for dinner except when I drink too much...
have a good 1
I'm no programmer by any means but figured .#3=0.0003125 (Scale) in TTF output =1 inch text height
did you try different fonts?
Just finished dinner , looked through folders at the .ttf examples
is that for the capitol letters of the default font?
Yep capital letters
For the default output anyway
* BigJohnT hears the dinner bell again, it never rings more than twice...
DanielFalck:do you think mastercam or surfcam would run in wine?
I don't know anything about how a dongle would work with wine, so I couldn't tell you
I run MC X in a virtual machine
but I have autocad2000, rhino3d sp2, vectorcam9.3, intellicad2000, progesoft v8 running under winde
are you using qemu?
dont know what that is
then what are you using for the vm?
VMWare Server , XP virtual machine My box has only 1gig memory and does well
SkinnypuppY34:did you get your mill going,havent talked to ya in a while
Daniel have you not used VMWare Server ? It's super simple and saves open sessions
no, haven't tried it. I have used qemu , which is a vm
I have been using X and Y with steppers , Keep loosing auctions on a ballscrew to drive the spindle Z ...
I had tried qemu and VM's built and ran fine but MC just would not install onto a qemu XP machine, I forget the error
do you have to run a dongle?
I have a version that came with a book that doesn't do g-code out so not certain what it would do with a dongle though the VM does do usb printer fine
jepler: there's no character width info. i'm just going to find the max of all the endpoints and call it that, arcs be damned
fenn: ah, that's terrible!
(I mean, that there's no width info.. If your simple approach to finding width works, I'm not going to fault it)
eh its not that bad
i do wonder why the # sign is off so much
how's the er.. mini-fest?
Chris and John are doing stuff with an encoder+scale machine that they couldn't otherwise do
steve and I are doing the same things we could do any day but don't
it is nice to see stuart's shop, and he's taking pretty good care of us..
there's a recent bug concerning offsets in effect at emc startup that has us scratching our heads...
a different one from what i was talking about earlier?
no, it could be the same one
i think your analysis made sense
well -- I may have opened up a separate can of worms from the one you actually encountered.
in the case of the bug I'm talking about, when emc starts and the G54 offset is nonzero, the interpreter is using the offset if you MDI or run the program, but the DRO in axis shows the coordinates without the offset applied
the stat buffer seems not to reflect the offset
im sorta getting good at this c++ stuff
however im going to fail my next math test :(
john and chris have some positive results on rotary encoder + linear scale PID, so now we're breaking for dinner and probably for the night
one of them'll explain it sometime, it's over my head
[04:46:43] <SkinnypuppY34> http://imagebin.org/14062
what kinda mill is that?
truetype tracer output?
yep cut with a #1 center drill
I'm frustrated right now, one of my drives is acting up
flashing red led on a drive that only has a green/orange led according to the manual
Sounds like fun ... Im just glad its warmer
what drives are you using ?
where you at, it isn't warmer here
I'm using electrocraft ddm brushless
I've only used geckos, haven't had much shop time lately either
SkinnypuppY34: aww you arent gonna try my new font script?
I hope I win this ballscrew on ebay in two days for the quill , been just using xy steppers with manual z
what does your script do?
Did I miss something fenn ?
it traces .cxf fonts, many of which are single-line so you can cut the actual letter
[05:03:56] <fenn> http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/cxf2g-scripts.png
I haven't been keeping up with the list daily lately
Thats pretty cool fenn ! ! !
cxf is from geda?
from qcad, though i believe many of them are hershey fonts
here's the script http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/cxf2cnc.py
and the fonts http://fennetic.net/pub/irc/cxf_fonts.tgz
the spacing between letters is not right yet
I'll have to try it
Cool fenn I'll check those out too !
Perhaps I should install qcad
Cool Fenn !!! http://imagebin.org/14064
you showoff with the working wireless
Do I detect a lil 802.11 jealousy?
I hope that drive has a fuse on the power section, I had a wire come loose
Under 2.2 isn't there a gui rt test?
sorta. there's a script called latency-test that does the same thing as the rtai latency test suite, but gets different answers..
I got a VIA VB7001g mobo tonight (it's a uATX board), want to test it out
you know about the rtai live cd right?
18348 ovl max so far
I'm using the emc 2.2 live cd
Well, the RT Test + GLXGears bug still exists =) heh
Crashes X like a 737 with have it's wings gone!
how about a C-130 with it's wings gone?
how about like a f-16 with half its wings gone?
doesn't work with an f-16, f15 can fly without one wing
some guy did it
ah yes an f-15
could someone post this to the wiki http://pastebin.ca/907104
FUCKED UP RESULTS 5 minutes later... http://pastebin.ca/907108
Could someone post these to the wiki for motherboard test results - it always screws up when I try.
you could plot the results and see how long between monster latencies
and try to correlate them with something
wonder if that board has something like the smb?
don't know why intel didn't do a better job with that interrupt
oh, let's have our system management take many milliseconds to complete an interrupt, nobody will mind
one event if I'm reading it right
JymmmEMC: even the first ones were bad
you don't want *any* overruns on a RT machine
(might try to see if there's a SMI you can disable on that machine..)
[12:18:14] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?FixingDapperSMIIssues
what directory do you normally put a shell script file in ubuntu 6?
looks like /bin
yea, I compiled my first c++ program!
hurray for U :)
to bad it probably isn't the last as well :P
LOL no I'm pretty sure it won't be my last
BigJohnT: good morning
BigJohnT: what are you working on?
changing the oil on my wifes 1/2 car
it's a Yaris
and looking for a font picker in python
something that gets a list of fonts installed on your computer and you can pick one
alex_joni: Does it matter if it's a VIA board w/ via chipset?
alex_joni: I was using the livecd 2.2, is SMI disabled on 2.2.2 liveCD ?
I don't think so
the link alex_joni sent shows how
skunkworks_: I dont' even have a hdd connected =)
I have tested some via chipset motherboards with no problems. Mainly the most common issue tha I have run across is the onboard shared memory vidoe cards
and lately 'power saving' setting in the bios
Oh, I forgot about them
time to go play with natural gas. wish me luck
no - new range
dont forget the soap
already took care of that :)
Gawd, I WISH I had a gas range, fscking electric POS
well gas stove at least
dave_1: was that to me or skunkworks_?
our old stove was electric
skunkworks_: You'll love gas!
this is 'dual fuel' - gas top - electric oven
skunkworks_: Goes it have a grill too?
skunkworks_: You know I think that works kinda well, convection oven?
with a fan inside it
yes - that is what I read. more consistant
gas top electric oven is the way to go ... or better yet convection oven
no hot spots in a convection oven
JymmmEMC:I have 2 different mills running with a via chipset,also have another on the way from newegg as we speak
jlmjvm: which board?
This is what I bought last night: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=490
lemme get the link from newegg
While it says it has a paraport, the fucking board only has the holes and is missing the header pins
[17:00:59] <jlmjvm> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130064
certainly not a lot of $$
why not order a connector?
anonimasu: There is no pins on the board to connect to, I'd have to break out the soldering iron
jymm: Yes, that was what I implied..
anonimasu: I didn't see any mention of paraport in the BIOS, so I'm a bit leary.
ordered the board,a 2.6gh single core cpu and 2gb of ddr2 800 for 153 bucks delivered,already have everything else for my secondary box
the pic I'm looking at says parallel port/LPT ... so what am I missing?
But as far as that goes, I didn't see serial port either. Might need to update the BIOS.
the one jymmm put up ... ends with 0064
opps sorry jlmjvm put up
don't know if the AM2 socket takes 32 bit AMD's ... but you can always run the 64 in 32 mode
I wanted a uATX board, then I can install it in the chassis with the rest of the controller.
I was planning on running it headless, then using a crossover cable and a laptop with remote GUI
[17:11:11] <JymmmEMC> http://www.zshare.net/image/76962152705cc8/
just wanted to let ya know ive had good luck with via chipset
jlmjvm: Appreciate it, it's not chipset tha'ts usually the issue as much as the whole mobo combination
what kinda mobo do you have
Ok, in this one the header holes are empty, in mine they're filled.... http://www.zshare.net/image/7729057d7b9238/
SWPLinux: you alive ?
so, your board is shit, huh?
SWPLinux: Seems to be
that's a bummer
it has a connector for an sm bus
so they probably took intel's approach of using a slow 8 bit processor to manage the system
People trying to dream up new uses for there Asus EEE pc
why not feed a g101 with it?
wonder what was going on with the 1800 overruns
O_o why do people always seem to want to have small, cute control systems for largeish machines
the amount of space a PC takes in a machine shop is nearly insignificant
I dont get it either
if you have a space limit I can see it
space inside a control cabinet is almost always limited
even if space in the shop isn't
tell me about it
or if you have a small machine to control in a small shop
get a full tower ;)
This is fscked that this mobo won't work, maybe I should go back and buy the intel mobo and see how it'll do
you should get a via m10000
fenn: The problem is that this is and the intel one are the inly uATX boards they have on the shelf, so if neihter work cna't easily return them.
if it doesn't work because it didnt come with a parport as advertised, how can they say you can't return it?
Sure, I could solder on header pins to this board, but still have the issue of not seeing anything in the BIOS paraport related.
fenn: no, no, I CAN return this board, that's why I buy retail instead of mail order.
jymm: did you google for adding a header?
anonimasu: It's not adding the header, it's the BIOs support.
anonimasu: did you see the photo?
i returned a bad mobo to newegg once and my money was cheerfully refunded,some retail shops in town here wont even do that,they want to give a store credit
Let me power it back on and see what bios ver it has, maybe I just overlooke dthe paraport settings in it.
Yeah, I dont even play that game. Fry's gives you 15 days.
i hear ya,gotta have people that stand behind what they sell
jymm: Yes, but did you google for the same board?
JymmmEMC: you cant be the only person alive with that issue
anonimasu: Nothing at all, no mention of missing paraport headers. The board was just released in Jan
you should return i
and get a board with a parport
Since I dont need paraport on the back plane, having a header would have been awesome.
SWPLinux: Gawd this 1U PS is a noisey lil thing
I think I mentioned it might be ;)
whoo hoo - tap in the gas line without a hitch ;)
passed the soapy watertest
I made the mistake of downloading a 64 bit version of some package
uninstalled it, but it seems to have flipped some bit somewhere
getting "64 bit version not supported" errors
SWPLinux: Yes, yes you did. But did you really have to? LOL OH, does your uATX PS have a 12V plug as well?
SWPLinux: Output 12V (the 4pin molex), not input
Teh other bummer is that this via mobo has sata + ide, the intel uATX only has ide.
the picoPSU I have does have 12V output, the ones that run on 12V just expect you to use the supply directly
SWPLinux: That's kinda strange due to one needing the correct molex plug
they make the connection for you, but the power comes directly from the 12V supply
FEATURE REQUEST: Could someone add the RT Test as a script to the next build and and the script the the EMC menu as an option?
I'm getting some of those power supplies in the plug for my robot
SWPLinux: why not?
because I said so!
SWPLinux: I know where to bury the bodies.
actually, it should be adesktop icon when the liveCD boots, but not for the installed system
SWPLinux: No no I dont mean in the EMC gui menu option, just X menu option
right - I know that
APPLICATIONS > EMC > RT TEST
SWPLinux: You're killing me!
it should be very obvious on CD boot, but it shouldn't need to be all that obvious once the system is installed
I could care less on install, but it would be nice just in case someone missed it
JymmmEMC: if you'd like to submit a .desktop file to add it to the menu, it could be included
SWPLinux: Do you REALLY want *ME* to create a script?
I think not
not a script, a .desktop entry
wth is that?
that shuold be all that's necessary for latency-test
it's a menu entry
by the time you explain it to me you could of had it done and commited for the next build
oh, I don't know how to do it
neither do I
I think you could edit the menu and add an item, then look in your Desktop directory for the file
Ok, how in the hell is cradek or jepler (can't remember which) is getting less than 8000 latency?!?!?! I've not been able to get that low on any system I've tried in the last 2 years.
Besides glxgears (due to the bug), what else can I use to test with for latency?
you can do almost anything that stresses the system
run a browser
anything video related?
drag large windoes around the screen
I'm running a browser already, dragged windows around the screen
start programs, stop programs ...
in general, do stuff :)
Wooops, there it is.... 218166 nS and overruns even with pwr mgnt (mostly) disabled. Ok this board is going back.
is that latency-test or the RTAI kernel latency test?
not that it matters much - 218 us is way too long
RT test from the wiki
SWPLinux: I never could find the gui test
terminal, then "latency-test"
it pops up a window - that's the extent of the "GUI-ness"
DanielFaleck: you around?
SWPLinux: Yeah, found it, thanks. This really sucks... just can't find a board that performs well. Have you ?
has anyone for that matter?
but not for $70 with CPU
<7500 nS ?
sure, how about 200-500 ns?
(but no parallel port)
and $800 or so total
it has a PCI slot, so a mesa card fits nicely
you're talking USC or mesa
not USC, that connects to a parport
I'm talking paraport or external paraport
well you could get a PCI parport card
I have one
I just used mesa instead
the motherboard is $357 (IIRC), plus CPU and memory
SWPLinux: then add in the cabling too iirc
I didn't think any intel architecture could get under 1microsecond latency
and you need to use a core2 CPU with the experimental SMP RT kernel
and then load down the other core with a do-nothing CPU hog
and then you get sub-microsecond latencies
SWPLinux: What dat was the show again?
4/18 is the session, the conference starts 4/14 I think
I just neede it in writting so I cna scroll back =)
Ok, *IF* I use this board and the ext paraport card I have, do you think I'd still have shitty latency?
the latency has nothing to do with the motion hardware you use
is the mesa drivers still funkish?
MEsa works great, but not for steppers yet
SWPLinux: STOP suggestions things that I cna't use dad burnit!
ya killing me! lol
you'd still have shit for latency
so what your saying the inly thing I can use is USC at this point
but it might be OK since you only need 1ms interrupts
no, the USC will be exactly as shitty as a Mesa
or more ;)
isn't that what it was designed todo, get past the parapaort issues?
the latency will not change based on the motor controller you use
however, the latency you need may change
specifically if you use something that lets you use 1ms interrupts instead of 20 us interrupts
SWPLinux: And in my case, what would that be?
I think at this point, the only "production-ready" stepper controller that would let you use 1ms interrupts is the USC
ok latency-test just jumped to 216K
the 7i43 might be there though, I'm not sure
you'd have to ask seb_kuzminsky
he's the guy who committed the 7i43 driver, which may include stepgens
but like I said, you'd have to ask him
WOW I can hear again
lunchtime - bbl
Just curious... Does a paraport driver in ubuntu need to be installed to use paraport under emc?
I see it in dmesg is why I ask
along with bluetooth and other things
you guys are gay
cept for cradek
Unit41: If we are, you made us that way
and if cradek wanted to be gay thats 110% ok
but you gotta stop dancing around or someone will flip out
haha sorry im just pissed off :/ plus i hate when i cant remember any conversation I read
[19:51:37] <Unit41> http://22.214.171.124/image.jpg
I worked in a nuclear power plant and didn't grow tits
Funnier than chix with dix
yall having a good sunday?
we were until Unit41 showed up
JymmmEMC, I think the ubuntu parport driver probably shouldn't be running
eric i hate you. did you follow twingy here ?
might be a diff eric too
can someone help me setup emc2 ?.....loded but won't run
did you install from live cd?
no kubuntu then source.list emc
could some one please kick Unit41 in the nads?
there is a wiki entry about doing that, but it's not recommended in general
did you set up the real-time kernel?
should i use debian ?
unless you have special needs, you should use the liveCD
not sure....adapt manager installed
emc doesn't include the real-time kernel afaik
the live cd that came with it(debian) i can't get to work here
what is the error message you are getting, something about modules not running?
the liveCD I'm talking about is ubuntu
gezar, how's the math homework going?
EMC2 - pre-2.0.5
Machine configuration directory is '/etc/emc2/sample-configs/sim/'
Machine configuration file is 'tkemc.ini'
FATAL: Module rtai_hal not found.
FATAL: Module rtai_fifos not found.
I stopped it last night, got frustrated, and started on the compsci midterm program, 3.5 pages of code so far, 5 functions or so, and its looking really nice
FATAL: Module rtai_shm not found.
yeah, you don't have the real-time kernel
FATAL: Module rtai_sem not found.
piasdom2: have you ever built a linux kernel?
FATAL: Module rtai_math not found.
FATAL: Module rtapi not found.
FATAL: Module hal_lib not found.
piasdom2, we get it, no real-time kernel
ERROR: Could not load 'rtapi'
ERROR: Could not load 'hal_lib'
Realtime system did not load
Shutting down and cleaning up EMC...
sorry for the flood
any online i could fine .............not on the live cd ?
eric_U: thank you for asking for sure bro, that was nice of you, im about to hit the math again, ill finish up the code tuesday before its due
you have to build it yourself
where can i learn that ?
gezar, I know how it is when a class is difficult
piasdom2: how long have you been using linux?
piasdom2, that's a tough one
just got this cnc and thring to learn coding
I recomend you download the live cd, im sure one of the others can link that, and you go from there
You should love the live cd then ! Hassle free
I've been using real-time for years, I use the live cd
i downloaded the live cd and it doesn't boot
ive been running linux for 10 years, and I dont think I could one step build emc2
built so many kernels I hate to even think about it
Will other cd's boot ok ?
kubuntu and cd that came with the cnc
piasdom2, how did you burn the cd?
in window xp
you may have had a bad download
or did you just write the file to cd ?
what application did you use to burn blah.iso to the cd?
forgot...have to reboot to win to find out...but not nero
i burned the iso to disk
not the file iso
if you dont have an iso burner try using something like burnit or another free iso burning utility
Just pop it in a drive and see if there is just one file there named .iso
ooooooooooh...i used poweriso
piasdom2: try using a slower speed setting, its probably just a bad burn or bad download
i mounted the iso then burned it with poweriso
ok...i'll try that thanks
I've had some cheap cd's that needed slower write regardless of what they said and some just failed period
i'll try it in kubuntu to burn it
pisadom if you have ubuntu installed already, you can follow the install instructions at linuxcnc.org
try just using burnit and you shouldnt need to mount the iso
ok thanks all ....bbl
i wonder how many people never get past the cd burning step
I went through 5 cd drives before I got one to boot
don't know what it is with some older drives
yeah, I had to drop the burn speed way down myself
fenn : probably a lot
What gezar said ... I usually do iso about 24
linux cd burning software often tells users about drive burn speed, ignoring media burn speed ( gnomebaker, k3b ,,, ) so i use a 'fail safe' speed of 8x and find something to do while it cooks
oh, and always burn from an iso image ( not file list to cd ) ( yes, i bet lotsa people dont get to a bootable cd, too much voodoo aka 'i do this cuz it worked for me' )
thats what I had to do back in 1998 to get my first emc install running
and no, I have yet to drive an axis with it
wait I have 1 axis that works, but thats it
get on with it
he has to do his homework first
wasted too much money on living, now that im about broke, and going to school, until im done with calculus i dont think ill be doing jack
where's the sugar cube cutter we were promised?
i want my emotional investment back!
its on the burner
the whole iso burning thing probably isn't helped because windows will not do it for you
easy enough in nero
schaum's outlines: calculus worked for me
I always hated schaums
learned cobol that way though
i just have a lot of algebra issues that I have to work through, it makes calculus uber hard
just listen to a lot of bach
hard core techno seems to be working
algebra is the first thing to go
* archivist listens to daisy
sometimes you gotta listen to what you got
I need to get a stepper system going so we can play "Iron Man" on it for my son
set up a shoutcast to g-code stream converter..
or at least arbitrary midi
well look, im about to take my second big test, I made a 46 on the first one, if I manage to get an 80 or better I wont have to drop the class, if I fail this one, ill drop the class, and continue going and take it again :(
I just have issues with tests. period, big issues right now, cause my brain opens up like a volcano, tossing formulas and numbers all over the place
you should practice taking tests then
that and continue practicing on the problems, I spend a lot of time on math, doing tons of problems
I find taking tests is much easier if I know what I'm doing
fake it til you make it baby
yeah, thats the issue, I dont feel comfortable with what im doing, so its rough
which is not always possible
its also theory, so we have to write the theorems, and then work the proofs as well
ton of stuff to memorize
funny thing is, if it's a reasonable test, the professor can solve it in about 12 minutes
if it takes him 15 minutes, there is no way anyone is going to finish in an hour
they should give you whatever time and materials you need
my boss does that, he gets a room at night after dinner, and lets you take 3 hours
when's the last time you had to do calculus on a deadline with nothing but a pencil (besides school)
last time I had to do calculus was in school
it will probably have write proffs of product, quotent, and chain rule, do a problem using the definition of a limit to prove that the limit exists(from previous chapter) some stuff involving trig functions, inverse trig functions, derivatives of arcs of trig functions, write out all trig functions, and their derivatives, stuff like that
by the time im done with compsci and calculus this term, i should be able to understand all of the motion code
I dont' remember having to prove the chain rule, but I don't remember much from '77
i thought godel showed that all proofs were a joke anyway, why do they bother? silly mathematicians
no he didn't
Godel just showed that there are things that are true that can't be proved.
well, i need to get at it, i have to know so I can do good, so I can continue
And I knew that (because there are lots of things I can't prove).
it took newton 10 years or so, so I guess I can learn it in a few weeks
gezar: When I was having trouble taking tests, my inlaws recommended taking an aspirin about 1/2 hr before the test. It helped me stay relaxed during the test. Still had to study like hell.
I think ill crank out, and use the back of the test in an attempt to use calculus to prove batman is bruce wane
that or i will have mastered the memorization stuff, and do as good as I can do
im not fearing failure, its just hard, but yall have fun
understanding beats memorizing
well, the better I am with the memorizing, the more ill have to toss at a problem, ie, if I know the law of cubes, then a problem involving a cubed function will be less daunting
all my tests are open note - no memorization involved, you have to understand the concepts
The lerman secret to memorizing prior to a test. I generally found that everything I needed to memorize would fit on one side of an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper.
I would write it all down and carry it wherever I went. As I walked into the exam, I would crumple it up and throw the sheet away.
When I was handed the exam book, the first thing I would do is write down the stuff I had memorized.
That way, I only had to remember the stuff for a few minutes.
WOOHOO HEADLESS BABY! HEADLESS!!!!
stab it with a knife ?
you have issues
* Unit41 retires to his workbench
Nah, removed the video card... boots up!!!
lerman: that is friggin brilliant
so far - no explosions
gas all the way over to the stove
yes - the oven has a fan in it
* skunkworks_ just notices
alex_joni: WOW, hadn't seen you since your last comment, and now a g'night =)
JymmmEMC: was out..
now I'm off to bed
alex_joni: Ah, gotcha
alex_joni: G'Night =)
same to you
won't be around mcuh the next couple of days
moving into a cave?
(going to some customers tommorow, and germany tuesday-thursday)
not sure I'll have much online time
alex_joni: Well, when you hit de, have one on me
see u when you get back
JymmmEMC: a lager?
alex_joni: yep, one of them HUGE ones =)
5l is the biggest oen I've seen
alex_joni: Ok, there ya go.... and a straw =)
roughly a gallon
and a large bladder
alex_joni: YOU CAN DO IT!!!
Care for some sidewalk with that drink sir ?
hold my beer and watch THIS!
BigJohnT: Is that like a 30' pissing contest?
any time someone says that you need to back up a lot
I did some training with ice tea
so the volume is no issue anymore..
(now I only need to start liking beer)
are you a wino alex_joni ?
BigJohnT: so far mostly non-alc.
Watch out for Technoviking ;o) http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzEFMjkI4
While partying in the street
anyone have a clue as to how to get the filename for a truetype font in python?
for example Times is /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-tamil-fonts/TSCu_Times.ttf
store a list somewhere
in pseudo non python exec(locate ttf >ttflist.txt)
*.ttf is better less cruft
right now I'm using self.fonts=list(tkFont.families()) to get a list
however the list is not a match for the file names...
hmmm, I used cmd='locate *.ttf > ttllist.txt'
and got a text file with all the font files in it...
now lets see what I can do with it LOL
the ttf lib has a command to show all the fonts it's aware of, but I dont recal what the command is
is the ttf lib part of python?