dogfishguzzler: 'aptitude show rtorrent'
has anyone here ever used automator?
I'm gonna have to break into the christmas bud to make this pain go away
how come there's a wake of silence in here everytime I send more than 5 entries in 5 minutes?
sounds like a party in #emc
probably reverse rate limiting
new rule: no more depressing questions
I think I can do that
what are we classifying as a "depressing question"
but before the rule is ratified, where should I bury my dog?
somebody else's back yard
* dogfishguzzler is way ahead of eric
oh oh i got one
somebody else's FRONT yard
depressing headline of the day: pitbull kills boy's make-a-wish pony
Holy shit, wait till my wife finds out her duran duran is gone
better queue that up first.
dogfishguzzler: go torrent it! pirate power!
freakin' horses name was tombstone
[00:09:24] <eric_U> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=pitbull+%22make+a+wish%22&btnG=Google+Search
* dogfishguzzler will regain his library
i am so glad everyone seems to be replacing high quality old cnc iron with the same brand with faster rapids
lots of apparently good machines with lower spindle and rapid speeds? sign me up
lots of good brands, same age as the machines at work, and the machines at work are still damn accurate
and we sure don't baby the ones we have
no way I could afford even that much for one.
some dudes pay that much for manual machines
older and in poorer condition
plus these machines come with boxes of tooling
unfortunately, on the salary of a pharmacy tech it's hard to afford something like that.
but that's more like, when you've got a career going and you've got money to dedicate to a hobby
i'm waiting for that point myself
on my 3rd career.
this has to be the typo of the day: Birds kill millions with bird flew...
has to be multiple typos.
[00:35:06] <toastydeath> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-bird-anti-bird.jpg
[00:37:18] <jmkasunich> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-cat-pwns-dog.jpg
dog will remember that forever
dogfishguzzler: did your music files live in ext3?
scarred for life!
another scar: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-horse-in-car.jpg
looks like that kid really scared him.
who scared whom more though is the question of the day..
that poor horse will probably never take a carrot from a kid in a car again.
it looks like they all just FREAKED...
humans should know better than to scare poor animals :}
that horse isn't scared
just saying hi
the hooman on the other hand....
needs fresh pants
the horse looks to have some jag reflex goin.. i wonder what the inside of the vehicle looked like afterwards??
nah, thats just horse laughter or a yawn or whatever - they do that open mouth thing a lot
let us dream..LOL
jmkasunich, the horse psychologist.
and cnc tech...
[00:48:11] <jmkasunich> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-curious-cat.jpg
Sonic, take 3
experience comes from bad judgement...
i have 1 at work (hard copy lost the electronic one.)... a bald eagle and a cat on the railing of a deck... the CAT is approaching.. the caption is .... overconfidence......when everyday failure Just isn't enough
firefox is pathetic
so fix it
crashes every 3 hours
you sure that's not your X server?
no, because I can pkill firefox-bin and reload it
I've got FF on Windows systems, several versions of Ubuntu, and RHL, and I don't think I've had that problem
and I leave it running for days
sure, anything can run for days if you just "leave it." Try opening 12 tabs at once, 6 of which have flash.
I generally have 6-20 tabs open, and I use it actively almost continuously
and I leave it running overnight, and it's still fine in the morning
I'm what you might call a power user ;)
that's not to say that there are no problems with Firefox, but I do have a strong data opint that tells me that you may have some bad configuration or something
I haven't done anything specific to make it work here, so I'm not sure what could cause the issues
how many plugins do you have?
there are some issues with the plugin system that cause memory leaks.
I've got Adblock, Flashblock, Better Gmail 2, SwitchProxy, and User Agent Switcher
8 plugins, one of which is disabled since the last update
so, it's either FF, flashplugin-nonfree, or some other plugin, or the freakin' gecko rendering engine itself.
Chatzilla, CustomizeGoogle, DOM inspector, Foxgame, googlebar, googlebar lite (can probably get rid of one of those :) ), prefbar (disabled) and talkback
also java from Sun
and of course flash, acrobat reader, etc.
this is NOT fair
run memtest lately?
are you running deep blue or something?
nope. what's this memtest?
this is my 7 year old (nearly 8) Windows 2000 computer
[01:14:19] <SWPadnos> http://www.memtest.org/
you boot with it, it doesn't run from within the OS
let it run overnight
many distros have memtest as part of the install disk image these days too.
yep, including the EMC2 liveCD
but it's a somewhat older version, which doesn't recognize modern-ish chipsets
get 1.70, the bootable ISO or floppy image
memtest86 or 86+?
the link I gave you
86+ looks like it'll take forever, considering that it's running at 800 MHz speed
you should le tit run overnight, no joke
5 or 6 passes would be good
sure - it's something to do when you're not trying to use the computer :)
I just used
this is so frustrating, because it should run at 2GHz, not .7 Ghz.
I just used it to find an error in my brand new Corsair XMS memory - very useful
I wonder how long it would take me to move a wall
depends on how big of a wall
oh, no dear, that wall was always there
and what its hilding up
just a stud wall with drywall
not holding anything up
eric_U 37 seconds.
eric_U 3.7 seconds. Car, reverse, hit gas pedal
wall moved =)
after prep time
trick is getting the car in the basement
step 1, steal 50 feet of det cord.
eric_U oh no it's not =)
park car in living room, surround car with det cord.
and having enough car left to hit the wall
the trick is getting the car *out* of the basement
eric_U never said we wouldn't move OTHER walls too =)
SWPadnos: There ya go!
getting it out is easy too.
that wasn't part of the problem statement
case of dynamite
explosives solve nearly every problem.
well, you can kill two birds with one stone. you get a new tool, and the house loses a drywall: Sawz-All
Dalran: what the hell... coulda saved a car and used the explosives to move the wall
I'm thinking it will go faster if I just move it
SWPadnos: not in 3.7 s
what's the fun in that?!?
have the sawzall though
Dalran: well, you need somethign for the getaway car to get a safe distance from the falling debri
I meant in not using car.
I didn't say use your OWN car.
it would be better if I used a truck
that's what neighbors are for.
Dalran: my bad
everybody loves trucks
problem is, my wife would notice if I cleaned up the basement enough to move the wall
she would notice if you blew a hole in the floor of the living room too.
but, give her your credit card and send her shopping.
solves that problem.
I wish I had a CNC mill
[01:35:14] <eric_U> http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/attachments/fg42/78136d1196739688-50-extra-300-cnc-part-making-001.jpg
that way I could mill the PC boards I need to make my CNC mill
too bad we dont know anyone with any machine tools
what boards do you need?
to bad I'm too impatient for that
$33/board rapid prototypes
its just a simple board - 3 opto-coupled inputs, two relay outputs and a charge pump
I'm building it on perfboard as we speak
oh, go to Radio shack and see if they still have some proto boards on the markdown rack :)
get out the wire-wrap tool!
what's a charge pump?
I hate wire-wrap
heck, some even still have ferric chloride kits.
charge pump turns low voltage into higher voltage.
charge pump is a ckt that needs its input to constantly be toggling, or the output turns off
ie, a watchdog
its used as a safety cutout, if the puter dies, the input stops switching and the estop chain drops out
I was curious how you made it
diode, resistor and a cap?
that's probably the simplest circuit you could use
74CH14 takes the parport signal, and ensures it swings rail to rail
but not the one jmk would use ;)
two diode and two caps are the pump
and a threshold detect?
the pump output will be around 8-10V, and will be applied to the gate of a mosfet
oh, direct drive to the "switch"
I have some 0.3 ohm mosfet arrays, 4 in a SIP, so two will be running relays and one will be on the charge pump output
you are using steppers?
I know, charge pump is maybe a bit overkill
but it will also kill the spindle motor
did you guys ever figure out that mesa fpga board?
I still intend to do HW stepping on my machine
but I need to get it running first
so you are planning on using the mesa for that?
I was working on lots of mesa stuff in the spring
but I had a major interruption over the summer
(I got divorced)
did you say something?
hey new rule, no depressing posts
like the one I made above about the pitt bull eating the kid's make a wish pony
my machine ran (under cnc control) for the first time this weekend!
there - un-depressing
did you make a penguin?
right now its only working in lathe mode
still gotta hook up Z
that gets confusing - the motors that are X and Y in mill mode are Z and X in lathe mode
will it work as a cnc lathe?
(its a shoptask 3-in-1)
I've seen it
right now I'm trying to get the jogwheel hooked up, but its one of those domino things
the wheel is gonna mount where the existing spindle motor switches are
what kind of jogwheel?
so I gotta get the spindle motor contactors working
hence the relays I'm perfboarding
what kind? the jogwheely kind... 100 detents per rev, little crank handle
that you found in the trash....
the company I work for used to do CNC controls, but got out of that business a few years ago
did you get sold off?
when they cleaned out the developement lab an amazing pile of stuff went out the door
no, they just decided to focus on other things that were more profitable
one of the guys at work used to work at a place that closed, they threw tons of industrial stuff away
(I think the other players in the CNC biz were cleaning their clocks)
I thought you told me you were at ab/reliance
well, AB now, they sold off reliance to baldor
AB did CNC controls back in the day
but you didn't get sold with them?
I started with reliance, doing drives
the drives part got absorbed into rockwell / AB, and the motors part of reliance is what got sold
mostly induction motors?
also DC, but thats a shrinking business
I'm trying to find some brushless that I can afford at work, pricy
I'm going to smoke them :)
baldor seems to have the cheapest motors
you mean generic 3-phase 1-50HP motors?
I don't know anything about that side of the market
eric_U, what's "pricy"? :)
SWPadnos: more than anybody wants to pay with their own money
$1k - $3k
he did say it's for work
it's more than I want to pay with someone else's money
ok, that's a bit much. what power range are you looking for?
considering I'm planning on smoking them
or are you just convinced that's what you'll do?
I was hoping for 1/2 horse
so a 400W AC motor is enough
do you need absolute encoders?
SWPadnos: you have something in mind?
has to be pm
* jmkasunich has a new project on the back burner, looking for a spindle motor in the 1/2 kw range
ok, aren't all (modern) AC motors permanent magnet?
most AC motors are induction, by about 100 to 1
just wasn't sure what you were thinking about
servo motors are mostly PM tho
sure - I mean AC servos
I have some Yaskawa motors/drives here, 50 and 200W, 3000 RPM cont, 5000 RPM peak
the line goes up to 4kW or something
peak RPM? I guess that makes sense for motion control
I'd want continuous though
these are relatively expensive, but not too bad for units without the absolute encoders (those add $500 or so)
what spindle speed would you want?
spindle speed doesn't matter at all
also, 200W isn't enough
that was for jmk
its gonna get belted to the spindle, so I have some latitude
I want to spin tools from 3/8" down to 1/16 or less, so I'll probalby have multiple ratios
I've been thinking about putting a servomotor on my mill
it's still $2k or so for the motor/drive combo
hmmm - you may needa drill speeder or something
whatsa drill speeder?
Tapmatic has a 6x one I think (sometimes comes up on eBay
spindle speed multiplier
I was actually thinking of a light duty high speed spindle mounted next to the main one
probably crappy if it's acalled a drill speeder though :)
yep, or as one person linked to recently, a die grinder attached to an NMTB tool holder :)
put a large pulley with a stubshaft into the main spindle collet, and belt drive the subspindle
so far I have 8 ball bearing slides, and I just bought the table today
fordom tool with the shaft running through the head
[02:06:25] <jmkasunich> http://www.smalltools.com/product_details.asp?cat_id=237_10&prod_id=67629
I'm planning a stationary table, and small but rigid gantry
work envelope around 12 x 20 x 10 or so
those things are nice, pre-mistaked
actually it doesn't have any divots on it
the hole in the middle is threaded, for an eyebolt
(it was intended as a sub-table for a large machine)
see, that's what you do after you drill a hole by mistake
heh - "I meant to do that"
would be nice to be able to lift it off the table
I thought you were supposed to drill it all the way thru and then stamp "oil" next to it
the table weighs ~125 lbs
my goal is to have the machine break down into chunks that I can put in the truck
probably be best to lift it mechanically
and bring it to the CNC workshop
heh - that's the pattern for 7-segment calculators to say "SHELLOIL" when you hold them upside-down :)
iam new to emc
i try to retrofir a big machine
a horizontal machine center
ah yes, from Argentina
anyone ever deal with a ycm 40?
i think thats what my machine actually is.
i planning to make a cross link bettewn the funcions vs impus output, a 3d MAZE!!!
juanjo: the biggest machine I'm aware of with EMC is the Mazak at the CNC workshop
[02:15:06] <jmkasunich> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNn-Yr7it5s
we have the toolchanger working, and got rigid tapping done last year
(june of this year actually)
that project gets worked on for a week or two each year
so progress is slow
i see the details and basically my machine is a litle more complicated
but the total time needed to do the retrofit is probably a few man-months
here is us working on it in June: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5q1rVKYLTQ&feature=related
ok. i undertand , you working only 2 week a year??
sorry for my english is very poor!!!!
right - the CNC workshop is an annual gathering of CNC people
the owner of the machine "donated" it, to be retrofit with EMC
the existing control was broken
ok so you come to this workshop, and implement your "house " work
in 2005 we started - removed the old control, installed the PC, and tried to get the old servo amps to work properly
but they didn't work right - too old
so we replaced them
i see a lot of guys!!!, where is this workshop?
in 2006, we got the motion control working and made the first cuts - the toolchanger was partly working
in 2007 we got the toolchanger working better and added rigid tapping
it is in galesburg, Illinois, USA
(a few hours by car from chicago, Il, USA
illinois a great place to see!!!
most people there are from the USA and canada, but we had one guy from china, at least one from england...
near form Champaing?
[02:22:09] <jmkasunich> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=galesburg+Il&ie=UTF8&ll=40.90521,-90.219727&spn=4.574583,8.64624&z=7&iwloc=addr&om=1
several times i be invited to the mack cormik plaza in Hydraulics events
maybe you should come next year: http://www.cnc-workshop.com/
i assit a few times as invided lecturer to the FiU (florida international University) in miami
thas be nice. assist to the workshop!!
i own a Hydraulic Shop , and designing special equipments for customers
it would give you a chance to see EMC on a large machine, and help to decide if it is right for your large machine
most of the EMC developers will be there
ist a great idea
june is a good month to travel for me
the machie We use to make Big bushing for the Sugar mills industries
you are located in the American Cornbelt
the CNC workshop is, yes
in fact the shop is surrounded by fields
the sprinfield is the same of the Simpsons??
i see several citys familiar for me, i was a licenced HAM operator, when young
[02:30:38] <jmkasunich> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=galesburg+Il&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=40.951252,-90.48563&spn=0.035719,0.067549&t=h&z=14&iwloc=addr
and seveeral times i contacted with hams in several cities
looked in the map
the buildings in the center of that picture are where the workshop is held
(this is a closeup of the actual place)
lots of corn and soybean fields all around ;-)
what do you dudes do at the workshop
wikipedia says that Springfield is a fictional city in an unspecified state http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_%28The_Simpsons%29
I would assume they build things with crazy metal working machines?
i thought last time they sat around on computers and used the mill table as a coffee bar
ahh evary time i asked where is the simpson place!!!! mys boys likes sympsons
ok, your contry is a big place, too big to see all in one live!!!
you can see the good parts in one life
ie. skip North Dakota, etc
North Dakota is ok in the summer
I grew up in Fargo and will never go back
that's cheating then
my parent's took me across the border into MN when I was born
Springfield Vermont was chosen as "the springfield" when the Simpsons movie came out
SWP: that makes sense
the pictures of springfield don't really look like Illinois
when i see this for a servo ( 72volt SEM ) what does sem stand for?
i lives at Nort of Argentina the Citie is Tucuman. nar a 1million population
SEM is a brand
plus, there's a nuclear plant nearby, and it's run just about hw Homer would do it :)
all nuclear plants are run that way
from what I hear
well, if we can't pronounce it, we probably can't run it
the nuclear engineers took over the penn state Mechanical engineering department, 90% freaks
in agentina is only 2 nuclear plants, the near to me is 600 km away!!!!
the Twos are with Argentina Engeniering, also Sell to other countries, like Australia
too bad the fact that I said that is going to go onto the google :)
don't worry, the internet pipes may not be big enough to carry all this data
I searched for something recently, and the logs of this irc came up
so i happy to this!!!!, i remember the 2 mile, and of course chernovil
it's 3 mile :), 2 mile after the accident
Ha ha.. OK o forget the lengt of the island!!!!!
I drive past that place a little too often
do you speed up as you pass?
I figure 3 mile island has reduced the growth rate of Harrisburg significantly
ok...all i also speed up in yor place
if you go past my place, you're lost, stop in and have a beer
at my charge
you owns a CNCs machines?
I have a bridgeport cnc, trying to get it working
I have a Bridgeport manual mill, which may one day get converted to CNC
ok nice machine
and a bandsaw I may just motorize for hte heck of it
yep, mine is
hi,i have a question,how to got velociy plot in halscope of emc2
i cannt found it in that menu
i have a UNIMAT 3 full equiped, and a Prazy MD300 fully with milling head, to use in my hobbyes
wooden ships, and RC, planes and helys
I have rc planes
scutsxg: you use a hal 'ddt' component to take the derivative of any signal you like. In the 'sim/axis' configuration, the Xvel, Yvel, Zvel, Xacc, Yacc, and Zacc signals are created by the .hal files. for other configurations you have to add it yourself.
and i casting a machine to ba a gantry type mill 400x300mmx150mm
i machined the table with the Tslot. i plannin using it with EMC
oh,jepler,thanks you are here....
but the Huller come first, so i learn with the big First
i surf your website,and could you give me some advice or refference source about your biarc interpolation?
ok you have RC planes. i have 37 years of modeling, i 42 yrs old
i cannt understand your code biarc.py...
scutsxg: let me see if I can find one of the papers I read before writing it..
scutsxg: here's one: http://emergent.unpy.net/files/papers/V1Nos1to4_22.pdf
my RC clud is http://www.tucumanradiocontrol.com.ar/
scutsxg: from that paper I followed the first few pages (finding points p1, p2, p3) and then ignored the rest
then I turn the arcs defined by p0, ts, p1, p2, p3, te into two gcode arcs
er, and p5
er, I mean, p4
p0, p4, ts, te can be found from the equation of a spline and its first derivative
oh,thanks jepler,i will read it carefully
the math is not easy for me either
i planning to use the gantry to make models, i take my time to complete it, due i have not place to setup it, until 3 months more when my new hobby Shop is finished, i also have a complete System 3 form Siemens to play
and learn form the germans
everytime, i asked why the Siemes are too complicated in comparation with Fanuc, or Yaznac for example
juanjo: you have a Corsair?
poor ui designers
whe biy, a friend buy a itial made CN lathe the Control was Olivetti, a pain to put in services
not nice plane the Vought F4U, but i not like very goog to flight ward birds
I found a picture of you with your slowstick :)
i preffer patern (i flyes Curares in the 80´s) and later soaring, and now i teah to my child of 11 and 5 ys , the rc modeling, the oldes flyes well a 3d Hely righ now
yes the first flew in Argentina, is can see for my computer, was a success!!!
Juan Ignacio is my son
I have a 12 year old son, I haven't taught him to fly yet
I think this is the only one of my planes on the net: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1499309
[03:11:44] <juanjo> http://www.tucumanradiocontrol.com.ar/fotos.htm
pictures from the club
i own panema
and all surrounding countries!
hi,i have a idea,is emc suitble to control a aircraft,sth like uav
i think not
but I keep thinking that rthal could be very useful
strap a fanuc 0T to it
and use that
Nice plane, i make one very similar, i copied one called treedee, i see in hobby lobby
i do think maybe rcs is not only limited to cnc field
yes, rcs was supposed to be general purpose control
I like this one: http://www.tucumanradiocontrol.com.ar/images/fotosclub/pic23.jpg
My son flyes for 5 yrs old. is 11 now, so was the young pilot in Argentina
but it is very difficult to for diyer to control complex device due to time,money
time is a problem
is a very fast ones, is was from a friend,
you can have a uav for less than $1000 now
hos is a uav, a plane autopiloted?
it is really interesting
ok i see several boards to make it. some cheaps, and other expesives,
simple approach: http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
their site is a little confusing due to all the different choices
locally was a idea to make it to take pictures for the crops
the FAA has shut that down in the U.S., it works well though
there is a software company that uses aerial photos to diagnose crop problems
i will use tarot to diagnose crop problems and make millions
if your method worked, the income would be substantial
WHO NEEDS AIRPLANES
WHEN YOU HAVE UH
nice site,, yes the idea is get different spectral bands to "see" the problems or not, i see a demostration in a farm workshop
Tarot, nice!!!!, Argentina is a Big client, the second exporter of Soybean, and the Fisrt in Lemons, so your maket is awaiting Wizard!!!
i can represnt you? please!!
nice chat, but is midnight in Tucuman, so i goint to sleep!!!
Goodnight sir. and everybody
another lured into the den of iniquity that is #emc!
better than mach
those guys are really dangerous
hey did anybody else get the feeling that juanjo guy made everything he said up
why do you think that?
i don't know, it was a feeling i got
no, but I do have that feeling about you
too much talking, not enough soldering
charge pump still?
and relays and optos
I have an incredible talent for being easily distracted
hey look over there
of course, if I was going to machine a board, I'd still be in eagle right now
it goes pretty fast once you do it a few times
it's probably faster than point-to-point even for one-offs
#2, if you ever need it, is a huge win of course
probably, as long as you aren't a layout freak like me
I don't have the concentration to hand wire a board any more
tried it the other day, it just about drove me crazy
jmkasunich: yeah jepler has that disorder too
or a fine-pitch surface-mount freak like me :)
SWPadnos: I do soics all the time but avoid that smaller stuff
I did a quick board in eagle, it wouldn't rip up and retry for me
dammit, I just had a resistor go awol
jmkasunich: use a diode instead, same size
the 0402-style multi-resistor packs are hard
as are the 0.5-mm pitch QFP
this is 1/4w thru-hole
I must be going blind
one time we were building with 8 pin opamps, and it disappeared. turns out it was stuck in the other guy's shoe
still not worth it to look for it (if you have more)
or you can try the trick we used to use: roll around a bit, you're guaranteed to get it stuck in a chair wheel
I got another one
that'll help you find it too
it was funny when I finally accepted the fact that it's just not worth it to look for those 0603 parts
they cost 0.5 cents, so even thinking about looking for one is a net loss
you have to hire someone in india to look for them
but then the phone call is a loss :)
Indians work for approximately 30% of what we do
outsourcing to them is a net loss in many cases
try fixing watches where you just learn not to lose things that size
yeah, you have to go to Ireland to get cheap labor these days ;)
(I don't lose resistors either, I use the same strategies)
I heard the Irish were doing pretty well
there's a lot of electronic production going there, actually
from chips to boards at least
SWPadnos: electronic bombs?
of course not
or at least, I wouldn't tell you
I was just saying what happened to the wind up clock detonators they were using.
IRA and all that
you mean all those years ago? :)
what, 18 months ago?
snmpd is just kicking my ass
did I say that out loud?
err - say what?
I bought one of these today: http://www.amazon.com/Powermatic-1660795K-Model-66-10-Inch-Left-Tilt-5-Horsepower-/dp/product/B0000225S4/?tag=bretsreviews4-20&linkCode=asn&creativeASIN=B0000225S4
wrong picture though
there's a button on that screen for "add to baby registry"
that's what I'm talking about
baby needs a new table saw!
baby needs a 24" digital height gauge
I bought my first saw just before my first child was born
baby needs a 2000 square foot heated workshop with 3-phase power and heat
now you're talkin'
and 16 foot ceilings, unless there's a crane, in which case the ceiling height should be 22 feet or so
have to have a crane
the PM66 has a "wide stance" -- don't tell the Minneapolis police
I could live with 1000 square feet if there was a crane
yeah, aisles can be narrower
well, you need the metal shop and the wood shop ...
don't forget the electronics shop
sounds like my basement
oh, well that goes without saying
and don't forget the airplanes
and the welding area
plus the environmental test chamber(s)
welding area is one thing I'm missing
research nuclear reactor
pencil making machine
goes without saying
except you said it
and waffle iron
there is probably a parallel universe where i didn't say it but everyone did think it simultaniously
bathroom with a toilet with two flush handles!
like a nuclear toilet - takes two people to flush
saftey lockouts on industrial machinery
I need one of those Ingersol-Rand compressors with the impellers instead of pistons
we talked to them when we were working on liquid cooled VFDs - they wanted us to make a drive for their air compressors
only problem is that their idea of "coolant" was oil at 80C
that's a good idea
we needed water at 40C
I don't see them having water available
I take it this was for a wind-tunnel worthy compressor
eric_U: no, just an industrial screw compressor - couple hundred HP
heat pump is probably counter productive since the vfd is for energy savings
gawd, that took _way_ too long
neck sore yet?
luck you =)
yeah, I expected it to
I get sinus problems, not so much sore neck
not a bad idea
I don't have that much smoke
just a lil 6" one, could evne be battery operated
more time spent positioning parts, etc, than actually soldering
and more time spent procrastinating than anything else
jmkasunich: LOOK! A pebble on the ground!
mount 2 parts, solder 3 wires, play a game, mount another part...
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swampy doesn't know if he's coming or going
I'm definitely going, to bed
you can play the trebuchet game
[07:41:09] <eric_U> http://www.globalspec.com/Trebuchet/
* alex_joni hugs CIA-24
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If I want to force a parport pin TRUE from the HAL Configuration window using the Test HAL command: what syntax would I use?
an output pin?
setp parport.0.pin-03-out 1
but it only works if the pin is not connected to anything in HAL
if it is, you need to "unlinkp" it first
alex_joni: hmmm, I did that and parport.0.pin-08-out toggled to true but my led on my breakout board did not come on...
I just did pin 02 and it works as expected
my problems yesterday may be due to this
I had a feeling it might be someting here that is why I did not file a bug report yet I wanted to do more testing here first
I swapped the parport out pin to 17 and the M64/M65 works fine! Whats up with my other output pins?
do you know if your printer port is 5v or 3v logic?
if it is 3 - it may not be enough to stear your bob
The_B is now known as the_ball
the_ball: hey - how are things in Norway? (was it Norway?)
how are things going today?
going good,getting my mill back together this week
skunkworks:are you in wisconsin
trempealeau (near lacrosse, wi or winona, mn
are you close to Menomonee Falls
may be there for a couple days after the 1st
other side of the state.. :) what is going on there?
if i buy a seat of synergy will be going up to learn a few things about the software
i noticed tractor supply has a plasma cutter for a decent price,wonder if it could be used on a machine
[14:25:28] <jlmjvm> http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_36332_______14151|14220|14238|36332?listingPage=true
ah - he is on here sometimes I think
the synergy guy,bob?
he told me he knows some of yall
he fixed my video for me one day over the internet
I think he is webadmin or something like that
he's a very nice guy
used to hang around in here
(but that was a while ago)
probably 6 months or mor
called him on the phone,he told me some commands to enter in terminal,then bam he fixed it for me,very nice
for creating synergy - I am sure he is very versed in linux
alex_joni:gonna be getting my mill going again later this week,will the encoder setup be similar to the setup i used in 2.1.7
[15:12:44] <cradek> http://i11.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/cb/ff/2a87_1.JPG
uh, think that parallel is homemade?
something seems unusual about the hole spacing, but I can't put my finger on it
looks almost diagonal.
hard to tell.. It may be just used hard
skunkworks: look at the holes
oh - spacing sucks also ;)
cradek: 94 people have looked at your video
I will make some more when I get the C axis working too
hopefully, videos of cutting some neat parts
it's nice to have a camera that does videos now
start drilling from both ends and work to the middle.
that didn't work.
Just this once .. here's the log: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2007-12-19.txt
rayh: I wish you could see the video of my (not quite finished) 5 axis desktop machine
it's about 1:40 on youtube. I wonder if you could see it with some patience
it is here http://youtube.com/watch?v=0jQy-zc5P6w
just let it buffer for a minute or 30 ;)
I'm just replying to your email :)
I wish I could see it also.
btw, could you /join the board channel for a bit?
what's a quandary?
Chris is that a stacked BC
no, the head tips for B. C will rotate horizontal on the table
Sure is it just plain board or is there a date after?
C on the table, B mounted on Z, moves the spindle
A quandary is a state of confusion.
I live there most of the time.
well.. in that case I'm the source of your m66 quandary
that is a cool video,curious to see how it actually drills in material
thanks. those are g83 peck drill cycles. I have experimental code to allow them in any direction on a 5 axis machine.
super cool,was wondering if you were able to use standard drill commands,g81,g83
whats the programming area concerned with movable blocks connected by lines ( ie: chips and wires )? Is there something more specific than 'directed graph' ?
cradek: does your G83 'tilt' the Z axis or maybe specify the abc angles?
(does it translate the coord system )
tomp2: there is a new plane G17.1 (UV) which follows the tool around (W). These drill cycles are drilling "down" in W.
W is always aligned with the tool on this machine
gotcha, i saw the vid, so W is what i thought was Z, but can lean in 'ZX'
cradek: wonder if you couldn't hijack UVW on a regular XYZABC machine for spatial circles..
Z is always perpendicular to the table. When there is a C axis finished, X and Y will actually rotate
and W is always the direction the tool's pointing
ok, then how about on a simple XYZ machine?
got Z >and< W, didnt catch that, (cnc speak " W is always the direction the tool's pointing" skateboard speak "down is where your feet are")
tomp2: XYZ is the tooltip position in cartesian 'workpiece space'. BC define the tool direction. and yep W is "where the tool's feet are"
I hope to also have U,V where U is "in front of you" and V is "to the right" (the other tool coordinate directions)
geez.. these are quite expensive http://www.microkinetics.com/drivesub.htm
[16:07:29] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48266&highlight=microkinetics
Whatever happened to roll, pitch, and yaw.
we threw them out
rayh: can't use R as it's already used for radius
not sure RPW were ever used in rs274ngc
P is also something
Yes it was.
you can write kinematics to control the machine however you want. The axes you have to work with are XYZABCUVW
There is an ordering to those words.
I thought UVW were specified as parallel to XYZ respectively, but I didn't see that in the spec (I didn't look very hard, but I did look)
SWPadnos: no, I don't think that's correct
secondary linear axes ...
We really have come quite far from the anything axis definitions as NIST had them
but then NIST never really completed the 6 or 9 axis interpreters.
i think this is a (cartesian) convention: X, and rotating about X is A, and par to X is U, Y, and rotating about Y is B, par to Y is V, Z and rotating about Z is C, par to Z is W ( so the triplets are XAU YBV ZCW tho no one lists them in that order )
tomp2: it's called a block diagram
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* BearPerson kicks CIA-24
hmm, at least that works. good.
SWPadnos: Got my BOB done yet?
SWPadnos: Well, get the shit done already, what am I not paying you for?!
03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10infrastructure/farm-scripts/results_cia: removed some leftover code
03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10infrastructure/farm-scripts/results_list: removed some more leftover code
SWPadnos: are ya done yet?
cool, lets see the pic
what did you want again? :)
SWPadnos: turn that 20lbs of lead into gold
Did you know they really can do that now
Just the cost TO do that, far exceeds the amount of gold produced.
well, that doesn't sound like a good business to be in then
an plus - the gold would be radio active
jepler: talking meat? http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/meathead.jpg
whats up everyone
a lot less ozone. <rimshot>