dynafile... air powered rotary device..
no touch the part
for the love of god.
We had a whole run of parts with a burr nobody noticed
and they'd have been scrap if we couldn't touch them by hand
same here.. so now all the rads and chamfers ARENT spinning and have flat spots...
this country is selling us to china.... in laws..
or more recently.. 9 of our machines going to Romania... in the next 6 months
D you wanna go help set them up|??? NOT
LawrenceG: You are using the contactors to control the outlets, correct? If so, why not use SSR's instead?
that really sucks man
dmess: I might :P
i've seen a lot of guys just start their own one-man shop and avoid regulations
at least here in america
the bigger places have a hard time beating prices because the little guys get a lot of the advantages of the overseas people
contact email@example.com mention my name..
guys running a few screw machines on little jobs
but can they maintain the regulatory stuff NADCAP/ CGP / ITAR / ?? there are many
big companies can't run the screw machines because they have too many restrictions and need to buy a 300k-500k lathe to even get a fraction of the output
i don't know what regulatory stuff they avoid by being one-man
and certainly not what canadian regulations would apply
i do landing gear... Transport canada and the NAVY are registered/attatched to my stamp
if you aint on the list... SORRY
makes ya think 2 times... or 3 .. need an extra sleep on this one..
f/18-c/d main gears are mine to make spares for.... for now..
i recall you mentioning that
halcmd save > saved.hal quit halcmd -I -F saved.hal is missing some values that were setp'd ( hal users manual 11 28 2007 sec 2.3.5, the amplitude of 5 became 1 )
tomp2: unfortuantely you get that behavior when parameters are converted to pins
as they were for siggen and have since been for other types
er, other components
thanks, now i know. is there src for the document i i want to submit edits?
sure.. it's in cvs under emc2/docs/src/
[01:41:20] <jepler> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?BeyondWiki
tomp2: you'll need lyx for that
argh i remember lyx
for a http://cgi.ebay.ca/48-3-8-16-Lead-Screw-w-Delrin-Nut-for-CNC-Router_W0QQitemZ230196442940QQihZ013QQcategoryZ57122QQcmdZViewItem
should I go half inch or 3/8's acme rod ?
for a 48 inch peice
30 bux is a hell of a deal
[02:10:38] <jlmjvm> http://pastebin.com/m22a77e81
jepler:could you take a peek
were at a stumbling point
what were wanting to know is how to add a write button,and the box still stay open
using tkSimpleDialog.Dialog as the basis for your screen limits you -- a dialog normally dismisses when one of its buttons (e.g., cancel or OK) is clicked.
if you don't want that behavior, you should use something else (e.g., Toplevel or Frame) which does not have the behavior you don't want.
there is a poll button commented out that could be used,currently it writes when you hit ok,want the poll button to write and ok to close the box
so use toplevel of frame?
disregard last question
well you could also create additional buttons that have different behaviors if that's what you wantr
whats better 1/2-10 acme or 3/8-16 for a 49 inch peice ?
just want to have 1 button to write,and 1 to close the box,then you could set several tools without having to restart it every time
so it need to be redone with Frame and a button added with a def to poll and write,correct?
10-30-2005, 03:32 AM
I would go with the 1/2-10. The 3/8-12 will start to whip at a lower speed than the 1/2-10.
that is one way you could do it
this is actually writing to the table file right now
how would you do it,or whats the simplest way with what we have
my nasa buddie wanted me to ask you,says hes reached a wall
but i think hes done well for less than 2 weeks in python
.3125 Bearing Blocks
is that a good number ?
I read that .65 is better
Anybody @ their keyboards?
make blows up i built new rip after sudo apt-get install lyx latex2html
and then did make clean then cd src
then ,.configure --enable-run-in-place --enable-build-documentation
then make && sudo make setuid .
The computer shuts off during the 'Executing blah epsropdf blah' part. 3 times so far, and near 5 gig free.
shuts off is correct
no traces in messages, syslog or userlog
tomp2:I'm not very familiar with EMC yet but I wonder why must you compile?
i wanted src for new docs, wanted to contribute some edits to hal documentation
that require make with a diffecrent set of cmd line swxs
I'm glad to see EMC merge with git
I'm sorry merge would be a bad word lol
Is your install special? What edits are you providing?
i just used the new docs, followed them, didnt get the result listed on the document
so some edit might be useful to others reading them
i could keep notes as i went thru them
and submit edits
If you don't mind me asking, what results did you expect and what did you get, condensed version.
OHH, I see, you mean edits to the docs?
okay, so whats the problem with submitting those?
you need the src, the src is in lyx format, it is not part of the std package.
you edit the src, submit it for approval
gotta go try again
I didn't realize the doc changes were in the src. Wouldn't that be a CVS problem?
<--doesn't know just asking
I don't tinker with src, I'm not a coder
its hotdog or hotdogwithmustard, two different requests. one is subset of other. the retrieval method is not a problem.
The difference between CVS and git go much deeper than retrieval.
I'm out of my realm here, I'm only offering suggestions.
ok, and i dont know git
One of the problems with CVS is that anybody can effect the entore tree, which is why EMC is moving away from it, so I assume.
git is much more controlled in that fashion
Again, I'm talking out of my ass. I have no idea what your problem is
Wish I could help
np ok, did new make clean, then make && sudo make setuid lets see if i disappear in maybe 5 minutes
God knows enough people have stepped forward and helped me
lol, is that why you bounce in and out and in and out
Good luck bro
* Dogfishguzzler crosses fingers for ya
CC [M] ...
0 stray cats
Executing command:epstopdf --outfile='19_home_tomp_emc2_2-branch_docs_src_hal_stepgen-block-diag.pdf' '19_home_tomp_emc2_2-branch_docs_src_hal_stepgen-block-diag.eps'
i did ^S to search if disk or mem is full...
df sez /dev/hda3 8167196 3792152 3960168 49% /
system monitor sez 154 of 488meg in user mem, and 0bytes of 1.4gig swap
i got loads of resources... i bet ^Q will release the proces and it'll die again
you got makefile issues, I'd bet my left nut on it
yep, it dies during epstopdf with src of blahG76blah
4 times is enuf, bye
<--It's shake n' bake and I helped!
is anyone around that can help with an installing emc2 on a Dell Inspiron 8200? I used the .sh script provided on a newly installed 6.06 LTS
this was the debug output - http://uoregon.edu/~jgarman/crashoutput
- i've been comparing my old core_stepper.hal file with the one in the newly installed emc2 demo_step_sl and there are some differences I don't understand - thought that might be the issue
I have to go for a bit - be back later
i looked and have no idea, if that helps :)
hey - thanks for telling me... :-)
if you have no idea - then I don't either - but I will continue my exploration
it's something to do with rtai and kernel modules *shrugs helplessly*
could you tell us the output of 'ldd /usr/realtime-2.6.15-magma/modules/emc2/motmod.ko'
here is a question -
er, nevermind ldd doesnt work on kernel modules
this was not a Live CD install?
can I use machine configuration files that I used to use for emc2(2.0.5) in this newly installed version emc2(2.2.1)
can't believe the kernel guys whine about a lpgl license
thats not the problem then - I can run the demo files - when I start emc and select demo_step_cl it starts up fine...
at least one kernel module is not being loaded
eric_Unter: your correct this wasn't a Live CD install
what are the differences in core_stepper.hal?
does the old one not have trivkins?
kinematics seem to be missing
no - it doesnt hace trivkins
I noticed that earlier
looks like you have to explicitly load emcmot now too?
anyway, try adding loadrt trivkins to the top of core_stepper.hal
i guess you're supposed to follow this document when using old config files: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UPDATING
ok - I added the trivkins load - is there something else I should add - what is the emcmot you just said
ok - I will use that doc - I guess... :-)
I should have looked for it before bugging you guys...
wow - I think I am going to put this off till the morning - maybe it would be easier to just make a new configuration with the wizard - thanks for your help
Okay I have a easy question. The Live cd isn't installing on this old computer I found. What would be the best ubuntu version to install THEN add EMC to it?
of course that's the same version as the live-cd, and you may not have enough ram for ubuntu's pretty pretty installer
another option to investigate is debian, which is much less piggy, but also "not supported" meaning you will have to do more work to get it to work
ah, another finn
i've been meaning to ask, are there lots of fat people in finland?
Dogfishguzzler: you can also try by starting with Xubuntu 6.06, then adding emc2
So I have no option for a text based installer on the 6.06 version?
As far as Debian goes, if I go that route, should I expect problems?
you should always expect problems :)
I've been using slack for years though. So I have some history with install problems. Although I must say not many.
Dogfishguzzler: there's an alternate install CD for 6.06
i would suggest not trying to use slackware for emc
that one is text-based
I found Xubuntu, not the live cd. I want to grab it with bittorent but Im afraid if I do that I'll just end up with the live cd again.
fenn:I'm off slack, ubuntu has impressed me so much I quite slack about 6 months ago.
hang on a minute
Well its apt-get that really impressed me lol, I love it
that's debian in a nutshell
[12:45:53] <alex_joni> http://ftp.cw.net/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
Dogfishguzzler: I'd start by trying that one out
here's the torrent: http://ftp.cw.net/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
alex_joni: Thanks thats the link I have already, I was hoping I could get a torrent for it but for some reason I think I'll get screwed trying it that way.
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/copy_and_run_fr.lyx: French translation
Man usually I get blazing fast downloads with BT but I guess I'm only connecting to one peer cause it's dragging ass.
This is the first time that BT it moving at 5kb/sec and ftp is pulling @ 600 kb/sec.
[14:01:41] <alex_joni> http://www.mediablog.cz/story.php?id=5679
Any of you guys ever hook up old 3.5 floppy drives to EMC? The stepper will only do one step. Can I overcome this?
I dont mind reading, but I don't know what to read.
how do you command the stepper?
I mean.. what kind of drives did you build/install?
Well all Iv'e done so far is to jumper from paraport to pins 13/14 on the floppy drive. I load EMC with the stepper inch config and if I jog my x axis I get movement but its only one step.
Im using the boards in the floppy drives themselves
you need to see if they use step/dir at all
I suspect they use phase drive
I'm new to EMC and this is something I can do with out spending any money and it lets me learn.
but it depends how many phases your motor has
How can I find out?
The pinouts Ive seen didn't include a direction pin.
how many wires? only 2?
then maybe it's quadrature
[14:44:32] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/2.2/html//hal_rtcomps.html#sub:Stepgen-Step-Types
so how did you hook up step/dir to 4 wires?
I didn't do anything except take the covers off the drive and remove the head so the lead screw can move freely. I didn'y disconnect the motor from the board at all. Hold on I'll show you.
[14:47:42] <Dogfishguzzler> http://lh4.google.com/compuslave/R1FnXhsomII/AAAAAAAAAiU/gbr6bGMkG5c/s800/dead_floppies.jpeg
[14:48:21] <Dogfishguzzler> http://lh6.google.com/compuslave/R1Fv2BsomKI/AAAAAAAAAik/zcNR_5oTrNE/s800/paraport.jpeg
[14:49:02] <Dogfishguzzler> http://lh6.google.com/compuslave/R1Fv2BsomJI/AAAAAAAAAic/anFZMCvf4S8/s800/cable.jpeg
I don't think that will work
damn, and that link looked so promising.
The one you threw up
Dogfishguzzler: I suggest this: 1 get the motor out of there
I want to build a driver and control circuit but I've been unable to find schematics for a quick and dirty one.
2. get or build a driver
sometimes it's as easy as using a L293 or similar circuit
3. if 2 is hard, go read on stepper motors & control (wikipedia is a good starting point)
the 'driver' you need to build is actually just an amplifier
if you try to move the motor directly from parport, it'll probably just burn your parport (too little current)
so you need something simple like a transister driven from parport, or an amplifier circuit (like L293 or L298)
then you can command the motor using 4 phases from emc2
(in order to get the motor spinning you will also need to identify the phase order, else it will just sit there and vibrate)
If I had to build this circuit from scratch, how much do you think it would cost?
you need a L293D (the D one already has protection diodes inside, some wires, a DB25 connector, and some test pcb)
Youv'e been extremly patient and helpful but I wish to test that patience and ask if you might direct me to a schematic.
[14:56:25] <alex_joni> http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/may98/steppers.html
So Ill need two of those for each motor since I have 4 wires right?
[14:57:16] <alex_joni> http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ih/doc/stepper/control2/flpystpr/flpystpr.txt
(refering to the link you just showed me)
one of those for each motor
Oh I see the coil is two wires, duh
Dude your awesome
that's probably as easy as it gets
I got plenty to read on now, thanks
np.. remember that giyf :)
[14:59:27] <alex_joni> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=giyf&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
BTW the xubuntu install is progressing nicley on my old harvested dumpster box.
[14:59:42] <jlmjvm> http://pastebin.com/d8b72ac3
Ahh lol, yeah I love google but I guess I wasn't asking nice enough.
alex_joni:theres the latest on the tool offset button,check it out
Dogfishguzzler: no sweat.. was happy to search for you :P
(at least I knew what I was looking for :)
Will do, I have hope again! Thanks!
jlmjvm: seems like you're getting there
slowly but surely
jlmjvm: I also started writing python a couple weeks ago, so I'm not the best critic :)
but looking at it, it seems like it should do what you want..
it actually works
it will write to the tool.tbl
i have tested all 25 tool lenghts and dia in mdi after they were loaded
Hey one more quick question, do you think I can L293D @ radio shack?
yeah, they should probably have them
it's one of the most common ICs for driving motors
Thats freakin awesome
if they don't then they surely can suggest something similar
but when you hit ok the box goes away,want to make the tlo button write the table and the box stay open till you close it
alex_joni:any thoughts or input you have are always appreciated
jlmjvm: sorry.. no thoughts really, would have to try it for that, and my emc2 machine is down atm
jepler told me last nite it prolly needs to done with Frame or Top Level instead of tk simple dialog
alex_joni:Sorry, I have one more question. The triangles on the schematic, whats that, also where is says motor volt, what's that mean?
All four wires on the motor are shown connected on the schematic so I can't figure out where 'motor volt' is supposed to go.
that's the power supply for the motor
you can use 5V in your case
Yeah I just saw that, I guess the 5V is what the chip needs and pin 8 would the motors power?
probably so.. (closed the schematic already)
if you're moving smallish motors, you can safely use 5V for both
I have some tiny ones from floppys but two bigger ones from a printer. Since youve showed me this Ill probably try both.
Im off to buy parts :D
I really doubt you can get the L293D at radio shack.. You should be able to go to thier site and see.
alex_joni:it also works with axis sim
just tried it
wow - looks like they don't sell any digital IC's anymmore. Or thier site sucks.
skunkworks: it sucks
anybody have a program for tool zero
what do you mean?
a way to automatically set tool zero. after you change tools
I've seen plenty for mach
I do that with a tool length sensor (a switch on the table)
generally uses a contact pad.... yes
the gcode that I use was distributed with recent emc2 releases but in case you do not have it you can get it here: http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/nc_files/tool-length-probe.ngc?rev=1.4
thank you.. I've just started looking for it.
really it's just a special case of probing. You can do anything you want with probing.
I'm new to emc, but pointed in the right direction for the most part.
TravisW:what kind of machine are you using with emc?
jlmjvm. I'm running a sieg x2 mill, cnc4pc-bob, gecko-320s
just a little home benchtop
im working on a progran that sets tool lengths,jog to position,enter tool #,hit ok and it writes the length to the tool table
[16:20:28] <jlmjvm> http://pastebin.com/d8b72ac3
what I was just looking at cnczone was a progam that after you put in a tool
it will z down onto a touchpad. ground thru a probe port, then auto set Z to 0
all this, from a seperate screen, so you wouldnt have to load/reload each time.
also had a pause to check with 123 block
this is just a dialog box that writes the input to tool table,has gage block option
[16:24:17] <TravisW> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36099&highlight=aussie+tool+zero
that link is the general idea
the main point for me, is easy to use, almost automatic. When I need a tool change, I'd like a script to be executed automatically after a pause.
tool 1 done, return to z+2, pause to tool change. hit the play button, automatically go to xy for contact pad to set 0 (or ontop of projet), z down to pad, set z0, return to last position, and start program.
suppose I know what I want it to do, but I'll just need the time to get it right.
jepler:does what i have now need to be redone with Frame or Top level?
jlmjvm: only if you want the frame to keep open after you push a button
just made a couple changes,now it goes away completely after you hit ok
will worry about frame later,gonna just enjoy whats working for now
03lawrenceg 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/stepconf.py: hookup missing spindle encoder signals
03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/stepconf.py: merge from TRUNK: spindle encoder setup
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/Master_User_fr.lyx: French Translation, (ini_homming_fr and mill_canned_fr missing in pdf)
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/ (4 files): French Translation, (ini_homming_fr and mill_canned_fr missing in pdf)
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gcode/ (main_fr.lyx mill_canned_fr.lyx): French Translation, (ini_homming_fr and mill_canned_fr missing in pdf)
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gui/axis_fr.lyx: French Translation, (ini_homming_fr and mill_canned_fr missing in pdf)
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/hal/ (intro_fr.lyx tutorial_fr.lyx): French Translation, (ini_homming_fr and mill_canned_fr missing in pdf)
I got the documentation to build, it seems to be a thermal issue on a laptop, just odd it always happened at the same file conversion.
The README in the lyx documentation for the emc docs says "The Lyx files must be in a version understood by lyx and Ubuntu Dapper as well as the lyx-to-html converter. This is 'version 221'. "
Thats misleading... the file >format< must be '221' and the file format idenitifed as '221' is what you get with the Lyx retrieved by Synaptic ( which is Lyx version 1.3.7 Tue. Jan 17, 2006 ).
So don't go hunting Lyx 2.2.1 ;)
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/ (ini_homing_fr.lyx stepconf_fr.lyx): French translation corr previous broken files
merci, Tissf, you did a >lot< of work
jlmjvm: I just tried your tlo script- nice
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/Master_User_fr.lyx: French Translation 221
i just made a launcher for my tool bar,now it opens with one mouse click
DanielFalck:r u the guy working on the industrial gui?
not at the moment. I'm learning python right now
but I do want to set up a more 'fanuc like ' gui for our shop
thought your name was familiar
me and my friend are learning python also
I'm into python programming for apt/cam a lot now
it's a lot of fun. You can do a lot real quick with it
sure can,although were not really quick yet
its kinda addictive,lol
makes me realize that there's so much potential to do things, but also makes me realize how much I don't know
I run into an 'out of range' error with your script when I attempt to put in tool offset 8
i hear ya,would like to get to a point someday of making my own cam system,so much is possible
but in the morning when i go to train some people how to set up their bridgeport,they will be getting to use the tlo box for their tool offsets
mine is working for tool #8
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/ (Master_HAL_fr.lyx Master_User_fr.lyx): remove empty author tag, causes some warnings
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/ (4 files): remove empty author tag, causes some warnings
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gcode/ (coordinates_fr.lyx main_fr.lyx): remove empty author tag, causes some warnings
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gui/axis_fr.lyx: remove empty author tag, causes some warnings
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/install/ (compiling_emc2_fr.lyx installing_emc2_fr.lyx): remove empty author tag, causes some warnings
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/hal/ (intro_fr.lyx tutorial_fr.lyx): remove empty author tag, causes some warnings
hello, Can anyone helpme with using halui in axis?
DanielFalck:is tool 8 still giving a problem?
yes. I downloaded the version that you first mentioned in pastebin.
did you add extra slots to your tool.tbl?
i made mine have 25 tools
ok, now it works
I had to edit the table to add the numbers first
no problem now
cool,ive tested mine all the way thru tool #25
I think I see what happened. I had tools 1-6 and tool 32 in the table
yep,had no place to put it
I just added tools 7 and 8
jensor: ask your question .. someone might just answer :)
then when I added tool 9 through your script- it overwrote #32 ,which isn't a problem
I opened hal pins and under halui under joint the pin halui.joint.0.is-selected always shows false. The coresponding pins for joints 1 and 2 behave the same.
so , I just need to pre populate the table to begin with
yep,i think im gonna make 1 with 100 tools,should be enough for a boss bridgeport,lol
so you have someone set up at work with emc on a bridgeport?
just brought an old boss back to life for shop,training starts in the morning,and another mill at a local trade school also
and i have a boss here also
ive done 4 mach controlled mills,but everythings gonna be linux from now on
did you have any problems with mach?
biggest problem was people being able easily change things,like the config files,lol
emc is superior in all aspects
that's good to hear. I've never even looked at mach
great Mazak horror story... They use Win XP
or anything on windows since 1999 anyway...
what happened with the Mazak?
had the lathes on the network for easy program access
XP got out thru the firewall and windows update ran
i did a wireless network for 12 mazaks recently
Xp rebooted while the machines were running
I am trying to figure out the halui interface. I am running axis. under axis I select Machine from the menu and and then select "Show Hal Configuration", then select Pins, then Halui, then joint and then I find that for all joints the pin halui.joint.?.is-selected is always false. Why doesn't it indicate true on the selected one?
oh my ....
i put these on a seperate router with no gateway to the internet
they had to isolate the cnc program server - Windows has many backdoor methods of phoning home.
have 95,98,200,and xp working flawlessly
well so far anyway,lol
I still do all my serious Win work in W2K
bout the best they ever made
i still use it some
I have a W95 (we called version D) cd here somewhere
we hacked it up and put in the USB support from W98SE
and some other tweaks
Skullworks,did you try that tlo program yet?
jlmjvm: thanks for the tlo program. I have an idea for a similar script
with a text box showing the tbl file
read the current file, place it in the text box, then write the whole thing when you're satisfied with it
with all the same buttons and entry boxes that you have
did you make a launcher for it yet?
did you add it to the axis gui?
its too cool,1 mouse click,and dont have to minimize screen
no,lower screen toolbar
this might be useful for someone: http://cgi.ebay.com/Xylotex-3-axis-stepper-motor-controller-Used-but-good_W0QQitemZ150190695874QQihZ005QQcategoryZ71394QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
not me - too much stepper stuff here allready, I want to go all servo anyway.
not recommending it :)
I'm still happily bottom feeding for high end brushless servo systems on ebay
I need to breakdown and order encoders
you have the cliftons? hard to keep other people's hardware straight sometimes
I'm going to redesign the rear moter endcaps (bearing support etc) to have an enclosed fluid tight area for the encoder and a terminal strip in a seperate area for the motor windings to go directly into a flex conduit.
I have Ametek's
I am trying to figure out the halui interface. I am running Axis. I select Machine from the menu and and then select "Show Hal Configuration", then select Pins, then Halui, then Joint and then I find that for all joints the pin halui.joint.?.is-selected is always false. Why doesn't it indicate true on the selected one?
The pins for halui.estop.is-activated, halui.machine.is-on, and halui.mode.is-manual, and halui.mode.is-mdi all respond true or false according to the condition. But no response from selecting x,y, or z on halui.joint?.is-selected.
[19:01:08] <Skullworks-PGAB> http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007062621461319&item=10-2351&catname=
Camtronics sells these same units - modified for the E2 encoders for BP conversions
jensor: you want hal pins to show which axis is selected inside AXIS?
but they are all open - not coolanrt safe and the encoders he offers have no index
check the axisui.* pins
Skullworks-PGAB: they look way too small for a bridgeport?
DanielFalck:new rev in pastebin
[19:06:49] <jlmjvm> http://pastebin.ca/803885
about 600 oz/in
ok, I'm working on one now too : )
I'll check it out in a bit
shows current z pos when turned on ,instead of the number 11
and camtronics uses 3:1 reduction
just removed a typo basically
crdek: It looks like I see the pins there that I need, Thanks. But I still wonder why they didn't respond under the halui.
axis should show encoder changing even if the machine is off, correct?
I'm using them direct drive on X/Y and 1.5:1 reduction on Z for a mini mill
eric_U: yes with machine off, command position tracks feedback position
otherwise, when you turn machine on, you get a position jump or following error
thats how i could tell mine were working
that's a good idea
something wrong with my mesa/wiring
my servo drives only put out 3v, but that should be enough I think
to be clear, they only put out 3v on the encoder outputs
alex_joni:No luck on the l293d or anything close. Radio shack is'nt in that business anymore. They are all about overpriced remote controls and trying sell you a cell phone.
I found one local company that may be able to help but until tommorow I wont know.
eric_U: the encoder outputs should come out of the encoder. If they have a 5V supply, then 3V means a lot of loss somewhere. If your servo drive is connected to the encoder ( some are ) then try checking without connecting the encoder's outputs to the servo drive ( to see if the servo drive is pulling the level down ) In a TTL system 3 volts is 'undefined' and will cause erratic position feedback.
it's working now. I'll have to check the voltage
my drives have an encoder pass-through
right, it uses encoder like a tacho for internal speed loops ( or maybe can do positioning)
the important thing would be integrity of the signal for the device it passes thru to.
If its to the parport for instance , 3V is very iffy.
sinusoidal brushless motors need the encoder
I wasn't happy with three volts, but 2 different drives put it out.
electrocraft -- they are supposed to be putting out differential, negative side never changes
do we know buckie? http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=374278#post374278
oh, well, back to the coal mines
i went to electrocraft but only found motors, not drives. The mesa stuff was made to run off 3V and is 'compatible' with 5. maybe that helps ( thats close to what 'Buckie' did. )
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/ini_homing_fr.lyx: fix some Lyx strangeness (can't have indexes_like_this, must separate by blank spaces not _)
btw: did you know differential means you reference (put gnd lead of measuring device) to the neg and read the pos ( with pos lead of measuring device, usually a scope). never from pos to any other reference (like system gnd or 0V ... they are irrelevant )
I was reading it in differential mode
it's just that the schematic reads like there is an inverter on the reference
electrocraft was bought by ab, don't know if you can find the manuals on their site any more. They used to have a helpful link
does the schematic looks like it creates the differential? by inverting a copy ? then it should swing to the power supply rail of the inverter.
it's the same drive as the ultra3000
I have to look at the chip it's something like am26blah
manual is downstairs in the man-cave
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/gcode/mill_canned_fr.lyx: remove stupid markup from chapter, lyx export really breaks if those are present
eric_U: sure looks like ttl outputs. section 2.45 of manual http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/in/2098-in003_-en-p.pdf
03alex_joni 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/config/stepconf_fr.lyx: change picture size to fit pdf page (the commit also borks up all lineendings.. seems lyx2lyx and lyx from dapper don't agree on where to put the linebreaks)
03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/debian/changelog: note new fix
Hey guys, I'm compiling EMC and It wants path to RT or --use-simulator. What is the real time thing about, can I just use sim?
Dogfishguzzler: do you want to run a machine or see what it's like
I want to run a machine
Crap, so I need to download more packages don't I ?
Then you need RT, do you have RT ( did you install from the live CD ? the easy way to do it ;)
Live CD kept puking
So I nstalled xubuntu now Im doing EMC seprate
it's likely easier to fix the puking than to build an rt kernel, what did you see happen?
This is on a non networked machine, I'm have to burn cds on this box and put them in the other
ok, can the destination machine boot from a cd?
I was just super slow during installl and hangs up during different times, I tried about 8 times and each time it would hang at a different spot
It was super slow*
got 512meg ram?
I dont think so, let me see how much it has brb
min is 256 and that means no silly video stealing a few meg
lmao 192 megs
read the minimum requirements before continuing, looking for url...
tomp2: for ubuntu you need at least 256
but xubuntu should be ok starting from 128
The OS is running fast and great
that's why I suggested it to Dogfishguzzler
Dogfishguzzler: xubuntu you mean?
ok, i dont know where the live xubuntu cd comes from or how to guide you Dogfishguzzler
I'm not afraid to build emc but I dont want to have to bounce back and forth grabbing packages every ten minutes
Dogfishguzzler: you don't need to bounce forth and back..
It's on the cd?
Dogfishguzzler: in theory it should be possible to apt-cdrom add the live-cd (with emc2 on it)
and apt-get install emc2
it should also pull dependencies..
then stick the CD in
(err.. the other way around..)
Okay apt-cdrom add worked but apt-get install emc2 says it can't find package and I know its on there.
only the packages in "pool/" on the cdrom can be installed in this way. emc2 is not one of those packages.
So Im gonna have to build it
well that won't make you happy either, as there are many packages required to build emc from source that aren't a part of xubuntu
Yeah Im already seeing that
is more mem an option?
Is there such a thing as xubuntu with emc live disc?
Not right now tomp2
03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/debian/changelog: bump version
Dogfishguzzler: you could also try to get the packages from the web
start with the packages from here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/dapper/emc2.2/binary-i386/
the two things that will end up taking the least time are: add more RAM so the emc2 live cd will install; or temporarily move it and put it on the network
Yeah thats what Ive been doing but I have to burn them then put them on the other computer, no network on the other computer
maybe install to hd while hd is in another host machine?
Dogfishguzzler: can't you temporarely put a network card in it?
tomp2: that leads to trouble sometimes
Lemme try some of these from that last link.
you will need many packages, not just the "emc2" package. you should read about "apt-offline" to find out how to have apt help you find what packages you need
but that is assuming you won't take my earlier advice
03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/VERSION: bump version after release
03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/configure: bump version after release
03tissf 07TRUNK * 10emc2/docs/src/Master_User_fr.lyx: French translation update
DanielFalck:heres a better version,limits the number of decimal places
[22:22:02] <jlmjvm> http://pastebin.com/m4ed8f0fb
jepler:thanks for the info earlier this week
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03tissf 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/docs/src/gcode/ (coordinates_fr.lyx main_fr.lyx mill_canned_fr.lyx): French translation
03tissf 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/docs/src/gui/axis_fr.lyx: French translation
03tissf 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/docs/src/hal/ (intro_fr.lyx tutorial_fr.lyx): French translation
03tissf 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/docs/src/install/ (compiling_emc2_fr.lyx installing_emc2_fr.lyx): French translation