sounds like it can only be used as a 'indexer;
sounds like its a programmable indexer
I've seen those haas tables that have a control
wondered how they worked
talking about the ones that have their own display
the one we have at work is integrated into the Haas control
i like the little haas tool room mill
eric_U: I think the table indexes and that's all. the control waits for it to finish.
cradek:have you used any pci express vid cards?
not with emc. I don't have any pcix machines yet
me either,but prolly fixing to build another box
even with agp machines I often use an old pci card
I have a bunch of old matrox stuff that works great with realtime OS
millenium II, G400, G450, etc
would that still work on a new mb that had a pci slot
instead of using a pci express
sorry I don't know for sure
seems likely though doesn't it
seems like it should
[00:23:17] <jlmjvm> http://www.cmicomputer.com/product/arrival.htm
i can get that at a local store
I never buy new computer hardware... :-)
atleast for emc :)
be sure to avoid nvidia. other emc users have said they are trouble.
have nvidia geforce4 on 3 different boxes right now
no realtime problems?
I sit corrected then
i think there is a prob with the faster nvidia cards
Best buy has a day after thanksgiving portable for 235 dollars or so.. celeron though. I just can't bring myself to buy it (standing in line and such) It would not be that much of an upgrade. I think Iam going to spend what I spent on this one 5 years ago (about 1000 dollars)
i have a geforce titanium 4800 that gives a reltime error
celerons suck don't they? tiny cache?
i just got 1
I think that was what jepler was using to run his mill, celeron 1000MHz or thereabouts. it really sucks.
plus it is wide screen mumble X800 - which isn't that much more than my 1024X768
seems much much slower than my P3-1000
this was a laptop from walmart
celeron 1.73 m
skunkworks: I absolutely love my thinkpad desktop-replacement type machine (A31p)
it has everything right about it
I bet you can get one for $400
I have not really started looking yet. but this thing is starting to show its age. Cd rom just stopped working now.
maybe even less, I don't know
what kinda computer is it
It is an inpsiron 2650 - bought in 2002ish. 1.7ghz mobil pentium 4
I just put a new keyboard and battery in it
1.7 GHz P4 is a new machine!
you big whiner
I really would like more screen area
that is really my only beef. this thing has done very well
the thinkpad is 1600x1200
where can you get those for 400?
I got mine at boeing surplus
they're on ebay but buying a laptop there is always a pain
thought you knew where some were,was fixing to sell my acer
found a write up about it,looks pretty heavy duty
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if I had a good source I'd buy another one
those cost 3500.00 new
with both batteries it'll run over 3 hours too
yeah I'm not surprised
it is NOT light or ultraportable or anything like that...
but I don't care about that
i may try 1 of those pci cards this weekend
ooh - I like the nipple mouse.
my first portable had that (toshiba)
no battery, no wifi, no bluetooth
those are all add-in cards
it is a pain to get the antenna up into the screen - so it's best to find one with wifi already in it
(I put it in mine)
I didn't like the nipple mouse at first, but now I'm used to it. The keyboard is excellent for a laptop.
I LOVE IT!!! http://stanleyfubar.com/
I can't believe they can use that.. i wonder if they had to pay the movie (what movei was that?)
some reason I thought patric swazey was in it
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WIERD news of the day ,
Mayor Resigns, Claims Abduction By Satan Worshippers
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cradek: do you have any other 5axis ngc files besides "cone"?
I find myself using TrueType-tracer a lot, so I have my own script to customize the output. Is there an easy to invoke it from my own python? the installed version is a binary file without any python API.
truetype-tracer is written in C, not in python.
jepler: thanks, that explains a lot.
I will try using python's commands.getoutput('truetype-tracer "a string"') instead. This is probably a good solution for any utility, python ones.
the subprocess module is a bit better if "a string" has any characters considered special by the shell
jepler: thanks for the tip (I don't speak python very well, yet).
this variation (untested) should work no matter what characters are in 'text':
return subprocess.Popen(["truetype-tracer", text],
(don't forget to 'import subprocess')
jepler: its beautiful, it works
[03:19:36] <jmkasunich> http://jmkasunich.com/pics/hybrid-mill.jpg
would you buy a mill from this man ;-)
I got an email from someone who saw my Van Norman website
apparently that thing is half van-norman, and he wants me to help identify it
Is this where I go to bother the hell out of you all with annoying newb questions?
I have an error message on a new mahcine.
or machine rather.
Starting emc2 server program
realtime system did not load
So which hole do I plug with my thumb?
are you using the live-CD?
I loaded it onto a spare P4.
I have a Amd 2500+ which it was running on with no issues, base period was too high.
but you started with the live-CD, and installed it... you didn't build your own RTAI or install on stock Ubuntu or something like that?
So I used this because of the slotted video card.
Nope. Loaded live installed.
rebooted fine onto hdd.
I've run mine with a p4 and a amd 2.4 I did have to loose the nvidia onboard vid on one to get decent latency
bad latency is one thing - realtime not even loading is something else
I understand. A reinstall maybe?
Is a P4 more than adequete?
p4 should be plenty
plenty of folks use p3
a reinstall is a bit radical, more of a last resort
...I am a man of action not results...
I don't think we've seen the error message yet
"realtime system did not load"
maybe there is an error in dmesg. they hide sometimes.
yeah the error will be earlier than that, I bet
Maybe having a goofy window open in the wrong place? I am multi tasking.
Huh. I closed all other windows and it opened.
that is probably not the actual pattern
Who came into my root and fixed this?
my cat Sprinkles
she's the smart one around here
Ok. is 20 micro seconds lag ok?
Well thank you gentle men.
And ladies. and sprikles.
I'll let her know
well, it's not her fault
fault? she fixed his computer!
we've got 75% of a wall between the garage and shop now...
all the outside work is done? siding, roof, door, etc?
surprisingly, some 2x4 and some drywall makes a wall in pretty short order
the siding is not done unfortunately. it's too damn cold now.
I don't know if tyvek would last the winter, but it might
maybe we will still get the siding done (this weekend)
but also, maybe not
there will be a warm spell sooner or later
we finally got the snow today too
we had snow earlier, but the last tow days have been in the 50s
if the pattern holds, we'll have that shortly then
Wish we had some snow<seldom seen> it was almost 70 today
I bet a full day at 50 deg would finish the siding
I would expect your weather preceds ours - things generally move west to east
whoever told me to use 5/8ths threadrod and a gear is a genius
canadian tire stocks that stuff
and the gear can be plasma'd out
fenn: japanese steampunk watches http://www.eager-beavers.net/products/shouhin_guide.cgi?temp=TMP0
2 girls for everyone
If I had a second one I would donate my eardrums ;o)
where can i found info about emoTASK
foo fely foofoo
ZaaN: what kind of info?
about the internal architecture about amcTASK
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ZaaN: the source code is the primary reference. there are other notes in http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.2/html/code_Code_Notes.html
but they are not rigorously kept up-to-date.
jepler: we had a longer chat about this.. he /msg'ed me
jepler:i found some python videos for newbies,would it be worth my time to start watching these,or is what im wanting to do gonna take someone with years of python knowlege?
[15:18:38] <jlmjvm> http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=pythonOzsvaldIntroToPyResources1&fromSeriesID=27
the task (read a file, replace a number with another number, write a file) is one that should be fairly simple
but it's hard for me to put myself in the mindset of someone without years of programming experience
so far i can change the labels on some widgets,and make it open the var instead of the .tbl,and prolly reassign some key
havent been able to get any new widgets on the gui yet
thats my mindset
I seem to remember some discussion about whether to run an APIC with EMC2 or not to run it.
Can I get a bit of help on that?
what's your goal?
root_window.bind("P", commands.task_pause) im wanting to use the spacebar for this
have tried "Spacebar" but it gives an error
I'm setting up a PC for Sherline using EMC2.
Was working through the bios.
It's an Athalon 64 with via bridge and display driver.
They had left on some of the power management
and the Legacy USB
But I know there had been some discussion of APIC
well.. APIC is needed for SMP usually if I remember it correctly
and in order to work it must be set as an option at compile time
But it does not get in the way of real time?
I just looked at the kernel config for the install and APIC is not set.
So probably the issue is mute.
Thanks for that hint.
it only matters if the RTAI has been compiled for APIC, but it doesn't find any
then it won't start at all
alex_joni:how do you get emc to come out of step mode?
jlmjvm: try pause
(in the latest TRUNK version there's still a slight bug in AXIS, you need to press pause 2 times to resume the program)
what would the correct syntax for the spacebar in python
alex_joni: RTAI compiled for APIC.... isn't that an oxymoron?
i can change my pause to almost any key but the spacebar
JymmmEMC: RTAI compiled with APIC enabled
it appears that "Space" is the correct syntax,and emc runs,but the space bar wont pause it,however every other key i tried does
sounds like a movie player :D
stupidly enough, Tkinter accepts this: root_window.bind("Space", ...) but the binding only actually triggers if you type "S" "p" "a" "c" "e" really fast. no kidding.
jepler: ROFL.. what were they thinking?
root_window.bind("yes I'm really sure I want to home the machine", ...)
and the replay: "Okey, if you say so...." <sounds of carbide snapping, and the smell of smoke fills the room"
alex_joni: seriously, why would RTAI be compiled with ACPI enabled... doens't make sense
(other than to disable it)
I didn't say ACPI
I said APIC
and it wasn't a typo
[21:21:39] <alex_joni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller
alex_joni: ah, that makes more sense.
ACPI is usually bad for RT
Yeah, that why I said it being an oxymoron
I had a system that had ACPI enabled and ran just fine (to be able to shut it down completely)
but it's a luck thing imo
At work, we have "public computers" which are really live XP cd machines. One cd drive is INSIDE the case, and then a burner on the outside. No hdd at all. I'm giving my gf a new computer for xmas, and I've been trying (for years) to get her to really look at linux. I'm thinking of tossing in a hidden internal cdrom drive with a knoppix cd inside as well =)
jepler:that works great both ways,pause and pauseresume
Other than not being full sized, this is kinda cool... http://www.weirdstuff.com/mas_assets/altimages1/24207.jpg
i kept trying "<Space>" and would get an error,and "Space",no error with it but no binding either
this is too cool,now you can be in step and just hit the spacebar twice to go back to auto
jlmjvm: well.. it should be only one step
that is with the pauseresume
I mean only one time to hit pause to come from step to auto (e.g. resume)
now it falsely first sends a pause commands, then the resume
if i changed it back to pause i would have to hit space,then resume to go back to auto
YOU HAVE TO HIT PAUSE TO COME OUT OF STEP
sorry for the caps
it's the same button
I do this: run a program, press pause, press it again, it runs further
ahh.. I see what you mean
the key asignment is different
but using the GUI button it just works
k,never tried the button
i do like how this works now
ive still never been able to put a widget on the gui
good night all
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