#emc | Logs for 2007-10-31

[00:30:31] <SkinnyPuppy34> Hey everybody
[00:32:43] <dmess> http://www.cameronsteel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=9
[00:33:48] <dmess> prez called today...needs to talk to me...... i left there almost 3 yrs ago..... yuts up eh???
[01:06:37] <SkinnyPuppy34> Woah, didn't realize small involute cutters sold for so much !
[01:06:37] <SkinnyPuppy34> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290173617764&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123
[01:36:29] <fenn> SkinnyPuppy34: they're not involute, but rather cycloidal
[02:14:46] <jmkasunich> grrr
[02:15:45] <toastydeath> ?
[02:15:51] <jmkasunich> network problems
[02:16:10] <jmkasunich> I went to bed sunday night, and only a few hours later my connection died
[02:16:25] <toastydeath> oh
[02:16:30] <jmkasunich> monday and today I was away (at a paper mill)
[02:16:45] <jmkasunich> come home and it's been fubared all that time
[02:17:53] <jmkasunich> seems like maybe it is my router - I connected directly to the DLS modem and used pppd to connect
[02:18:08] <toastydeath> hmm
[02:20:42] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: brand?
[02:20:49] <jmkasunich> netgear RP614
[02:20:54] <jmkasunich> a classic ;-)
[02:21:32] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: Ah, I've heard some nasty netgear storys depending on model. If you get one of the linksys WRTxxxx you can install OpenWRT on it.
[02:21:58] <jmkasunich> this one has served me quite well for multiple years (I can't even remember when I installed it)
[02:22:05] <jmkasunich> I think it just has old
[02:22:18] <Jymmm> yeah, mine is there too I think.
[02:22:57] <jmkasunich> I've been thinking about getting one that has wireless capabilities, since my work lappy has wireless
[02:23:00] <jmkasunich> maybe now I have an excuse
[02:23:17] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: the WRT are wireless with 4port switch
[02:23:32] <Jymmm> b/g
[02:23:56] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: http://openwrt.org/
[02:24:40] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: full linux on your router box =)
[02:24:50] <jmkasunich> heh
[02:27:13] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1133202177241&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=7724139789B01
[02:28:12] <Jymmm> With the OpenWRT installed, it's technically a 5 port switch with vlna capabilities
[02:28:20] <Jymmm> 6 if you include the wifi
[02:29:03] <Jymmm> and if you crack the box open, you can install a serial port
[02:29:02] <jmkasunich> a few ports are handy
[02:29:15] <jmkasunich> the existing one has 4 ports (plus the wan port)
[02:29:54] <jmkasunich> hmm, I wonder if my webserver still works even tho I'm using ppp instead of eth0?
[02:30:28] <Jymmm> jmkasunich: I'm at work, and am ALWAYS willing to "test" the bandwidth for ya =)
[02:30:54] <jmkasunich> jmkasunich.com
[02:30:59] <jmkasunich> don't test it too hard
[02:31:12] <Jymmm> I'll be gentle
[02:31:22] <Jymmm> it's up
[02:31:36] <jmkasunich> thanks
[02:32:11] <jmkasunich> I've been getting multiple disconnects per day for weeks - I wonder if the router was the cause? (I've been blaming my ISP)
[02:32:14] <Jymmm> WOW, that almost looks fake http://willepadnos.net/jmkasunich/wood-duck-male-1058m.jpg
[02:32:31] <jmkasunich> I think I'll leave this connection up for a day or so and see what happens
[02:32:46] <Jymmm> what's yout MTU ?
[02:33:01] <jmkasunich> not sure
[02:33:14] <jmkasunich> all my configuration stuff hasn't changed in ages though
[02:33:29] <Jymmm> if it's 1500, and you are using PPPoEm that could be the issue especially if the ISP made changed on their end.
[02:34:20] <Jymmm> change it to 1492 (or 1490) and see if that helps
[02:34:57] <jmkasunich> I used pppoeconf to set up the pppoe link that I'm using now, and I think it did set the mtu to 1492
[02:35:13] <jmkasunich> I have no idea what the router was using, I'd have to switch back over to find out
[02:35:16] <Jymmm> see what value is setup in your router.
[02:35:19] <jmkasunich> which I'm not gonna do today
[02:35:39] <jmkasunich> * jmkasunich is kinda burnt out
[02:35:45] <jmkasunich> long couple of days
[02:36:04] <Jymmm> Oh I understand that one... I'm on ch4 of DNS&BIND
[02:36:19] <jmkasunich> heh, sounds like loads of fun
[02:36:37] <jmkasunich> I was at a papermill trying to keep drives running
[02:36:41] <Jymmm> Hey, it's a WHOLE lot lighter reading than my CCNA is.
[02:36:43] <jmkasunich> 1400 tons per day
[02:37:16] <Jymmm> I've re-read ch1 of CCNA three times so far. You have to learn itthe CISCO WAY
[02:49:46] <jmkasunich> http://www.demagcranes-ag.de/images/home/presse/bildarchiv/industriekrane/xl/39281-7.jpg
[02:50:01] <jmkasunich> similar to the place I was at
[02:50:12] <jmkasunich> although the mill I was at was much dirtier
[02:52:50] <Jymmm> I wonder if they have ever ran out of toilet paper?
[02:53:09] <jmkasunich> heh - you wouldn't want to use the stuff this place makes for that
[02:53:20] <jmkasunich> its the paper that becomes the outer skins of corrugated cardboard
[02:53:27] <Jymmm> No doubt, but would seem funny
[02:53:27] <jmkasunich> 100% recycled
[02:53:34] <jmkasunich> 1400 tons a day
[02:54:09] <Jymmm> must stink
[02:54:15] <jmkasunich> actually it doesn't
[02:54:24] <jmkasunich> because they use recycled feedstock
[02:54:47] <Jymmm> oh, not the pulp from newspapers and such
[02:54:46] <jmkasunich> virgin mills use lots of chemicals to convert trees to pulp, recycle mills use far less stinky stuff
[02:54:51] <SkinnyPuppy34> Ever been in a town with a dogfood plant? That stinks
[02:55:28] <Jymmm> ah, gotcha
[02:55:50] <jmkasunich> I was at a pulp mill years ago that was nasty - they started with trees and made food grade "pulp" (very thick soft paper)
[02:56:16] <jmkasunich> as you walk into the plant you cross some railroad sidings
[02:56:31] <jmkasunich> car 1: 80,000 lbs chlorine
[02:56:45] <jmkasunich> car 2: 120,000 lbs ammonia
[02:56:47] <Jymmm> slowly leaking
[02:56:53] <Jymmm> oh fuck me
[02:56:59] <jmkasunich> car 3: 30,000 gallons sulfuric acid
[02:57:05] <Jymmm> dumbasses...
[02:57:16] <Jymmm> at least put some space between em
[02:57:31] <jmkasunich> they give you a pocket size respirator during your safety training
[02:57:49] <Jymmm> WTF?!
[02:57:52] <jmkasunich> "if you hear a siren, put this over your head and get outdoors and upwind NOW"
[02:58:11] <SkinnyPuppy34> Kind of like get under your desk if the atomic bomb drops
[02:58:21] <Jymmm> If you hear a siren, place your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye
[02:59:04] <Jymmm> So, now you can't breath, and your skin is starting to get eaten away... lovely.
[03:00:15] <jmkasunich> they had a thing at the exit of the parking lot...
[03:00:31] <jmkasunich> pipes up both sides and across the top, and a weight operated valve
[03:00:39] <jmkasunich> you drive your car thru it and it washes it down
[03:00:58] <jmkasunich> to wash off the acid mist that settles on your car in the parking lot
[03:02:12] <jmkasunich> that was about 15 years ago, and that mill was ancient then
[03:02:26] <jmkasunich> the one I was at today was only built about 15 years ago
[03:02:29] <jmkasunich> much nicer
[03:05:55] <SkinnyPuppy34> http://youtube.com/watch?v=84ixje9kQ6o
[03:08:35] <fenn> uhm.. shouldn't we have robots doing that kind of stuff? come on now
[03:09:22] <SkinnyPuppy34> Looked like a suicide mission to me
[03:10:31] <Wowbagger_> cradek: installed fine last night after getting sources.list set up properly.
[03:10:51] <Wowbagger_> Haven't configured it or attached it to the mill yet though... something for another day.
[03:20:53] <Jymmm> http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40204628.html
[03:25:59] <LawrenceG> hey Jymmm ... whats shakin?
[03:28:36] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: ME!
[03:28:39] <Jymmm> lol
[03:29:09] <ds2> Jymmm: you felt it?
[03:29:41] <Jymmm> yep
[03:29:49] <toastyde1th> toastyde1th is now known as toastydeath
[03:29:50] <LawrenceG> yea... what effects did you have... anything falling down?
[03:30:04] <Jymmm> Nah, felt about 4.6 where I'm at
[03:30:09] <ds2> hmmm didn't feel a thing down here
[03:31:01] <Jymmm> ds2: stay off the waterbed next time
[03:42:07] <SkinnyPuppy34> Here's a CNC controlled gatling gun !
[03:42:07] <SkinnyPuppy34> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxvI7Sem7c
[04:41:02] <toastydeath> i wonder if anyone has a manual swiss lathe
[04:49:53] <toastydeath> mazak integrex, anyone?
[04:49:55] <toastydeath> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZcFMjLmjZc
[04:52:38] <toastydeath> if god had a lathe, it would be an Integrex.
[04:55:11] <SkinnyPuppy34> Hey toast, that is pretty cool.
[05:02:25] <Rabbitbunny> anybody happen to know of a CAD package that runs on linux? I'm never installing XP again so i'd be kind of nice to already have my other PC set up to do everything.
[05:02:56] <Rabbitbunny> Ubuntu 6.10, but I may move to 7.10 later.
[05:02:58] <toastydeath> Pro/E has a cam component to it
[05:03:10] <toastydeath> if you are looking for the full shebang
[05:03:16] <Rabbitbunny> cool.
[05:06:53] <SkinnyPuppy34> Anyone else making chips tonight?
[05:07:08] <ds2> potato, silicon, or ? =)
[05:08:34] <fenn> plastic chips
[05:08:51] <fenn> and i'm eating chocolate chips :)
[05:08:53] <SkinnyPuppy34> they all sound tasty
[05:08:52] <toastydeath> i made some chips earlier
[05:08:56] <toastydeath> mild steel plate
[05:09:05] <SkinnyPuppy34> 6061 here
[05:09:11] <toastydeath> cutting out an 11" flange cover
[05:09:16] <toastydeath> bolt holes, etc
[05:09:20] <fenn> tuffak polycarbonate motor mounts
[05:09:33] <toastydeath> ON A POORLY LIT HAAS VF-0
[05:09:48] <fenn> WITH MY BARE HANDS AND TEETH
[05:09:53] <toastydeath> i think something's dicked on that machine's spindle
[05:10:09] <toastydeath> it sits at 45% load with the spindle just idling
[05:10:44] <toastydeath> the tool release sounds like a gunshot and the machine shakes
[05:10:53] <SkinnyPuppy34> Got a bucket of 6061 chips, what should I clean this with b4 putting in a crucible? TSP?
[05:10:54] <toastydeath> and one time, the spindle stalled completely for no damn reason in a light cut
[05:11:01] <fenn> eating chocolate chips i mean. i do have a crappy drill press and bandsaw to make use of
[05:11:09] <toastydeath> Do you have to clean it?
[05:11:26] <fenn> you dont have to clean it
[05:11:29] <SkinnyPuppy34> Not sure thought I'd ask
[05:12:28] <fenn> might want to pack it into nice sized bricks first though
[05:14:01] <SkinnyPuppy34> Anyone else here have a coal forge?
[05:14:14] <fenn> coal is nasty
[05:14:37] <fenn> or do you use coke and just call it coal?
[05:14:45] <SkinnyPuppy34> yeah it is that. Got a blacksmith friend that uses it
[05:14:53] <SkinnyPuppy34> some coke other is low grade coal
[05:15:24] <fenn> i have a cast iron coal stove
[05:15:39] <fenn> about now would be a good time to finish it
[05:15:48] <fenn> but i'm lazy so i'll just be cold all winter i guess
[05:16:01] <SkinnyPuppy34> keep busy you'll stay warm
[05:16:22] <fenn> yeah schlepping around freezing chunks of aluminum keeps you warm..
[05:16:24] <Rabbitbunny> Pro/E isn't going to work, I'd have tp pay for it.
[05:16:47] <Rabbitbunny> to*
[05:16:58] <fenn> Rabbitbunny: welcome to the club
[05:17:16] <SkinnyPuppy34> yeah we have so many cold iron things in the bs shop it won't get warm with the outside in midday
[05:17:20] <Rabbitbunny> I already have AutoDesk on a very nice payment plan...
[05:18:39] <SkinnyPuppy34> Back to the mill ...
[05:22:31] <fenn> wow.. watch this around 1:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLC25KbCTxs
[05:23:30] <fenn> i'd call that high speed machining for sure
[05:29:04] <Rabbitbunny> says they're down for maint.
[05:31:00] <fenn> that's just what they want you to believe!
[05:31:18] <SkinnyPuppy34> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn3Z4Zucj5Q
[12:24:02] <jepler> good morning
[13:10:50] <cradek_> cradek_ is now known as cradek
[13:26:37] <alex_joni> does cia.vc work for any of you now?
[13:46:02] <fenn> not sure what you mean. i can see the web page
[19:32:08] <a-l-p-h-a> a-l-p-h-a is now known as levank