what's a terminal client?
somebody who hires you to kill them
this really came out of left field: http://www.gouget.org/druids/screenshots/dsurf1.jpg
yeah - no kidding
what program is that?
it's one that a user just wrote and posted to the users list
michel gouget's "surfacing druid", it's brand new
dies surfacing at the moment, and acts as GUI while doing it (or generates G-code)
does, not dies
didnt think i had ever seen it before
as I said on the developer channel: holy cow!
anybody ever heard of a trumpf laser?
its a major brand, somewhat cheaper than ferranti i guess
i had never heard of it before,met a machinery dealer today that carries that line
may get to go to a service school for them
for those trying to compile the surfacing druid, you need to apt-get install libxpm-dev libfltk1.1-dev fluid, and you need to use an emc2.1* branch
Adam1_: how is it going>
I think I am finally done...
did you do the 1 button zeroing?
not going to bother.
its easy enough to just restart axis
not as nice but it works every time
you don't want to use touchoff?
Adam1_: you got the scales/servos tuned to your satifaction?
yeah tuning is enough for our application
0.001 at 150ipm
error that is
are you going to add a z?
wasnt fun getting that
Yeah I am picking up the quill kit from purolator tommorow
The little bit of pid tuning I have done - I believe it.
actually its the entire retrofit kit, we are snipin the quill, servo and drive from it.
and parting out the rest
So there will be some nice big servos and drives for sale
sounds like a plan :)
what kinda servos?
SEM 140V, 3.2NM, 30A, 3400 RPM, 9.5V/1000RPM Tacho.
Drives to match
what size shaft and length?
shaft is 1inch long by 5/8 I believe.
Not 100% on that
5/8 is what i need
maybe 1.5 long
I can measure up when they are here
I am in B.C. where are you jlmjvm?
well could be worse for distance
on the same side of the world
well if the dims. work out, we can try and work out a deal.
how many you got?
rather sell to you guys
will have 2
what would you put them on?
fixing to have 3 boss bridgeports,series2,i think mine is sold
oh yeah so maybe even the mounting hardware could work for you
its coming off a bridgeport style machine
what kinda machine?
not sure what model
but it use the same hardware as my knockoff J-head
and there are 2 patterns on the brackets i think
Adam1_, was that a manual machine or a CNC?
mine was an old retrofit, Anilam crusader M
the mounting pattern forthe BOSS is quite different from a manual machine
well if it works they are here
though the motor is probably still a NEMA42
I may be interested in one or two, if jlmjvm_ can't use them
I have to go.
SWPadnos:I got the old hurco moving today
no smoke so far
still gotta do the vfd
bleh. so you have to compile fltk2.0 from source
fenn: your stating to sound like a windows user..
* fenn hugs his apt
dont listen to him, little guy
skunkworks: he IS a windows user
not ex-windows, i never used that crap
oh - whatever - everyone knows bill gates invented windows.
yep iirc he was working in al gore's secret research lab
the one with all the tubes
and the internet
um, ok, so compiling fltk2.0 didnt help any..
fenn: apt doens't have a compile function
compiling is for nerds
especially library dependencies
fenn: then why you compiling huh huh huh'
coz i'm a nerd?
no apt-make for you!
the next ubuntu was going to be hungry hippo, but they changed it :(
known_hosts is not clear test for ip address
it appears to be public keys of some sort
I tossed up another server a la dhcp, different keys of course, but I cna't ssh in and I can't reset/clear the existing one
just delete known_hosts
I just want to delete the one.
or copy <mumble> from the old server to the new one
the others are verified
JymmmEMC, so you're trying to connect to a host but its fingerprint has changed and SSH won't let you?
accept the new fingerprint
Yes, do as I say!
gawd that's a long feature list for 2.2
it's been building up pressure for a while
she's going to blow..
toast__ is now known as toastydeath
toast is now known as toastydeath
SWPadnos_ is now known as SWPadnos
anyone know how to configure mdadm?
hey guys, Do you have an suggestions for a z-axis rotary encoder? I have a .250in shaft from my ballscrew that is asking for one.
I think automation direct has good prices on encoders
what kind of PPR?
I can get 2500
how fast do you expect to turn the screw?
and what are you using to read the encoder?
I have a 5i20, and 7i33
ok, so read speed shouldn't be an issue
Ill max it out then no price difference
if you have a 5TPI screw, then you'll be getting 50000 counts/inch
to much of a good thing?
could be :)
the faster the counts need to go, the higher the frequency your cabling needs to support
yeah its a 5tpi screw
what would you suggest?
which also means you can't filter as much noise - it may be more susceptible to RF noise
I am thinking around 250 maybe
I don't know - just pointing out some things for you to consider
so how does 2500PPR correlate to 50000cpi
i would have thought it would give me 12500cpi
2500 should be the cycles per rev, you get 4 times as many edges as there are cycles
unless it's 625 CPR, which would be very strange
something to do with quadrature?
nice job on that druid :)
Adam1, yes - QUAD-rature :)
four parts per cycle
Thanks! I wanted to get some feedback about my Druid...
well I have to choices 100PPR and 360PPR
I haven't had a chance to try it, but I like the look so far
save the 360 for spindle
gives you 1 or 1/4 degree orientation with no error
Thoose are what automation direct has in stock
usdigital probably has more in stock
ever sweat out garlic, not smelling to hot over here
thank you very much for that information
and yes, I have :)
one of the local supermarkets has an olive bar where they also have other pickled things
my favorite is pickled garlic - it's basically garlic cloves that are soaked in oil with hot peppers. mmmm - tasty
(and the marinated artichokes and mushrooms are darned good too)
mgouget: should be $LD_LIBRARY_PATH not $(LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
fenn: you are correct; I mixed makefile and shell :(
now that i have dsurf running, i get: dremc_connect: Error at dremc.cxx:1503.
Can't connect to ''
oh, i have to pick an .ini
fenn: seems like you have not selected your .ini file
ok who wants some servos
with Renco encoders already installed
and matching drives
* fenn pictures Adam1 being swarmed with squealing middle-aged men
pictures coming up in a short bit
mgouget: i'd like to point out that your program does alternating conventional/climb passes
otherwise you would have to start in the center and do a spiral
Fenn you are correct; for the first version, I wanted to play it simple, as there were many many other problems to solve first...
right, it looks like you've got a good start
fenn, I wrote a command-line C program which does spiral pocketing. I can put it on the web site if you want.
ok. have you seen these? http://pico-systems.com/gcode.html
fenn: that was a source of inspiration. Unfortunalely, everything is only in inches...
it should work for mm if you replace G20/G21 codes
it should be unitless internally (I hope)
actually there's no G20 :0
I think the prompts / screens just say inches, but the generated code should be dimensionless
there's also "cp1" or cp2 or whatever it's up to
I think that's in the emc repository (module emc instead of emc2)
i found cp1 rather hard to understand
oh sure, but there are a lot of operations that are great candidates for a druid :)
hmmm "Dialogs Reducing User Indecision/Drooling" ??
woah plain 'cd' returns you to your home directory
The next druid I want do develop will be a Probing druid, able to go at a corner or middle of a round, rectangle or pipe stock, with probe calibration.
mgouget: Nah, make a fermentation druid, then a distilation one
SWPadnos can make his own donut druid
JymmmEMC: I am a knight of the brotherhood of scotch wisky tasters, and a proud member of the Mc Kinlay clan !!!
mgouget: So what you're trying to say is you already have 100 druid in operation as it is
* fenn goes to make a banana smoothie druid
fenn: dont forget the tofu
and pepper flakes
fenn: the program is here: http://www.gouget.org/druids/download/pocket.c
[18:29:39] <Adam1> http://review-space.dgbremner.com/gallery/index.php
Adam1, do you have a close-up of the pinout of the servo connector?
lets have an auction
I have a the other connector
I'm curious as to whether it matches mine or not
you get both sides of the connection
I'm still curious :)
if you look at the end of the connector, it'll havea number, like 12-9P or something. if you tell me the number, I can tell you if they match
or a photo :)
ok, that matches :)
I wonder if the pinout is the same
Sounds like a Barbie doll
so what do you think
sexy stuff hey
you did a nice job wiring the cabinet
it looks nice. which parts are you selling?
all of it
except the quill kit and 1 drive
do you have mauals (or preferably a link to online manuals)?
we could find links for the drives I bet
I just did a search and didn't turn up much
ok i put the new pics up
I see that. it's the right connector all right
hmmm. looks like single-ended encoders
if you can get me a sheet that shows the pinout of the connector, I'd appreciate it
of course, I should ask what kind of prices you'll be lloking for first :)
One Dollar! One Dollar! One Dollar!
Shipping: $4,325,345.23 USD
bizarre to see single-ended encoders on there
yeah, it is a little odd
the cables are probably very well shielded though
and of course they made the encoder interface board as well, so they're expecting you to connect to known hardware with a known cable
speaking of cables, I had a fun time seeing the length of a cable on a scope, and the difference in waveforms at each end
it's kind of weird to look at the two ends of one wire and see different waveforms
SWPadnos new pics of the drives are up
This is on a HP LCD monitor... Supports High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) to prevent transmission of non-encrypted High Definition content
tdr on cables is entertaining
JymmmEMC: just decline to buy that kind of thing
cradek: Yeah, no doubt... but I still dont get wth their talking about.
encrypted video - yay!
If it sees a HD signal, it won't display it?
it has some "features" that cause it to sometimes not work and then you have to reinstall drivers and buy new versions of windows and stuff like that
so ... decline
cradek: oh gawd
so you can't record stuff by sticking something like a VCR between the tuner/computer and the "TV"
SWPadnos: oh, the old macrovision crap?
actually, it will show HD signals, but what it does it it allows you to watch stuff from an HDCP source
if you have a Blu-Ray drive that's got HDCP, it will refuse to play movies on a non-HDCP monitor
SWpadnos Here is the drive manual http://www.glentek.com/images/manuals/sma7215manreva.pdf
an HDCP monitor will play back "protected" or unprotected content just fine
ah, aa glentek. thanks
as cradek said, don't buy one :)
It's was a HP pc/lcd bundle, but seeing something like that... forget it.
Not that I really want to buy a hp/compaq system anyway
oh, and it's not jus Windows, it's Snoy and others as well - I have no doubt that many new digital players (like DVD, HD-DVD, HD set-top boxes, etc) will require HDCP for hi-def content
that's sipposed to be sony (but I like snoy better :) )
SWPadnos: what's wrong with your typing?
they started that wlak man thing didnt they?
I remember reading that Sony (or snoy) refuses to have p0rn on blu-ray too
good thing I don't feel like I need any of that crap
cradek: you might not need it, but if you are distributing it it might be another story, or even some other content that snoy doens't like.
But who gets to decide what is porn?
once blu-ray recorders hit the market, they won't have a choice ;)
lerman Sony's three floors of lawyers
players are still $300 range.
JymmmEMC: by crap I mean high-def movies and blu-ray players etc
(I sure don't have anything against porn)
heck high-def porn might not be an improvement.
Well, when you get into 42" or larger display, it helps
BTW: Sony is one of the companies that regard their customers' privacy so little that I get spam to an address that I gave only to sony.
My wife received porn spam sent to an address that was only given to Borders.
lerman come on man, even your bank gives out your personal information... and if someone find it, and reports that, they do crap about it.
at least they get to releive themselves
[Sorry for the rant. Back to your regularly scheduled program.]
yeah enough already someone write me a check :p
Pay to the order of: Adam1 $1.00 USD
I would be much more interested if I had ended up with a stepper mill like I originally planned
One Dollar & 00%100
with free shipping
but you pay alot for shipping
psht. I'd prefer 1EU to 1USD
too slow biotch!
btw... I'm Christmas shopping already.
I just can't find the phone I want to buy =(
well, I've got to get back to work. Adam1 - if you decide on some pricing, let me know. you can email me at spadnos at sover net
omg omg omg
[19:18:13] <maddash> http://nsa.unaligned.org/hw.php
the end of the internet as we know it? or just another fad
well at least we know they'll never crack the GPS encryption key
it's several gigabytes long
it uses PKI actually
fenn: assuming your tlaking about SPI
you're throwing around too many acronyms for me
fenn: then you not too familure with GPS encryption then.
i'm not too familiar with gps encryption
fenn: Especially not being a citizen, I'd hope not =)
or the NSa ain't doing theri job right (again)
(nuttin person mind ya)
it doesn't matter much anyway, since "selective availability" is useless
I'm not talking SA at all
unless you're in a spaceship or somethin
what are you talking about then?
as the saying goes... If I tell ya, I'd have to kill ya.
i wonder if you can make a brushed motor go faster without destroying the brushes if you put a capacitor on the rotor to absorb the inductive current
rpm rated caps ;)
anyone interested in a 6in glass scale? made by anilam 2540 resolution
amphenol connectors about 20ft of armor cable
and a big box of goodies
I will hand deliver and sing a song when you open the door
wonder if this 1U will still sound like a banchee with the cover on....
Yep, though a tad better
how can i chk permissions on a serial port??
look at /dev/
ls -l /dev/ttyS*
DOH.... im looking for what TTY port i have an x10 controler on... it reports LOTSA tty ports
firecracker IS rs232
really.. i thought it was usb
even has a serial pass-thru too
work for you??
dmess: Under M$, yeah, no problems at all. Havne't tried it under nix
i have permission errors is all with heyu..
dmess: try as root
if that resolves your issue, then you know it's a perms thing
i see... i wanna set a nix system with cams...
oh, cam, I was talking home automation
so wify or i can look in on the kids or each other anytime...
turn on/off/dimm lights
yes... got a nifty remote... in the start up kit i ordered at 3:00pm yesterday and was on my door by 7:10 am this morning
how is the camera?
fairies flew it im sure..
no i didnt buy the cam yet..
Then what DID you buy?
just some modules and an interface i cant make worke.. but im scared of..
try as root yet?
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS0
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 65 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS1
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 74 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS10
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 75 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS11
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 76 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS12
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 77 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS13
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 78 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS14
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 79 2007-09-28 09:47 /dev/ttyS15
well, dont you know which port you plugged it into ?
partial list.. its all the same just different ttys's
the only 1 on this machine... sould be 0
one external, any internal?
probably.... its a p3 board
[20:31:41] <alex_joni> http://www.gatago.com/alt/machines/cnc/17894029.html
might have to go to doz and chk...
or just terminal to the port and try talking to it
how so... in intrieged... old shool we go
I have no idea under nix
what's the url for the product?
cat /dev/ttyS0 ; echo 'foo' /dev/ttyS0
echo 'foo' > /dev/ttyS0
or you can use kermit
it isnt pukinking back errors.. but hasn done anything can i just send off a2 ???
ckermit is the debian package name
or need it be binary??
screen /dev/ttyS0 19200 vt100
hey thanks for locking up my terminal jymmm
but try 9600 instead of 19200
fenn: if you dumb enough to type something random on your comouter that you saw on the internet....
mine didnt puke but thought about it
fenn: and do you have anything on the serial port?
everything i type on my computer is something i saw on the internet...
btw i didnt tye it... cut/past... soooo bad
^ak kills it
control-a then k
didn't lock up on me fenn, I suspect PEBKAC
in dos it was fdisk -mbr that was always fun...
dmess: So, what is the DIRECT url to the product you bought?
[20:42:43] <JymmmEMC> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ncherry/common/cm17a.html
[20:42:51] <dmess> http://www.aartech.ca/product_info.php/products_id/157/CK11A.html
didnt know you were into this... id have asked before i buyed..
the pc interface is branded rca?? good or bad??
it's all made by X10, just rebranded
[20:45:50] <JymmmEMC> http://www.zoneminder.com/
[20:46:19] <JymmmEMC> http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/Ubuntu/all/electronics/x10-automate_1.00-7_all.deb.101074.html
any trouble with aluminum wiring??
other than a fire hazard?
[20:47:17] <JymmmEMC> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/electronics/x10-automate
[20:47:31] <JymmmEMC> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/electronics/x10
Those seem to require universe, so if not already uncomment in sources and update.
dmess: fwiw, this is what I got eons ago for $20 http://www.x10.com/automation/firecracker.htm
bought at Fry's
Hmmm, SMART test not showing up in ps aux, will wait 30m like it said.
I keep hitting "Esc" -- but I'm still here!
fenn: You can run, but you can't hide!
So, is everyone using ubuntu? Or any other distros?
That's one thing that's kinda bugged me.... they install things I may never use... I just found w3m installed... a text browser.
no distribution will have exactly the programs you want, and none that you don't
so just uninstall w3m and be happy
in all seriousness, that's why there's a good package manager, to let everyone pick the packages that make them happy
It's so small no big deal. but my ubuntu desktop box has sound player installed and all the extras, but there's no sound card in the system and it will NOT let you uninstall it.
If you DO uninstall it, it will uninstall gnome too
w3m is the best thing since slice bread!
(I actually tried that long ago)
but if I dont evne know it exists (used to using links or lynx), then why bother installing it.
w3m renders tables and some frames
links and lynx didn't do that AFAIK
but whois is NOT install,
links has nice table support
it has some support for frames I think, you pick the frame you want
I only found w3m becasue I was playing with the find command or I would have never known about it.
they have improved links I see
JymmmEMC, gnome-core requires sound, but xfce probably doesn't
so you could still have all the apps and the GUI, but without sound
SWPadnos: I don't recall debain removing gnome when I wanted to remove totem
whichever - I dunno
SWPadnos: It just bugs me that crap is installed even if I might never use it. that's all =)
smartctl -l selftest /dev/hda
hey JymmmEMC: can we talk i private channel about x10??
do i nee a full reboot??
anyone know how to remove the feed lever assembly on a bridgeport?
and the trip plunger
auto feed lever
Oh the power feed thing
never seen it come off other then with the box
I need to remove all that crap for my quill kit
dmess: sure, but I'm not sure how much help I can be
leme rebott first... brb
so, does anyone else have SMART installed by chance?
"He told me about a guy whos job was drilling tiny holes,
never bigger than 1/16" dia. One day he just keeled over dead, and
nobody knew why until they x-rayed his body and found a broken drill
about 1/32" dia. in his neck."
talk about bad mojo
i heard/seen .. a guy came in to polish a bathtub die..... never got out of it.... the press creeped till he was stuck....
they came in in the morning and cycled the press.... to find hin...
still cant open permissions on tty line..
here's one for you amateur radio operators: http://www.gatago.com/cgi-bin/det.pl?type=article&object=18393259
ya enter the letters, silly
its case sensitive too
i think its funny that you can 'spoof' a captcha by setting up your own site and making people fill out captcha requests for another site
fenn: that's EAXCLTY what I thought you were giving a link to
fenn: But there are ways to prevent that too
fenn old joke
was a bricklayer joke
saw that on MythBusters too... but it was a barrel of bricks
barrel of brick has been around since waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayback
I hate mucking with sulfuric acid
1960's or older
even with gloves and baking soda on hand
bah, brb.... need to wash with backing soda again...
much better.... no more burning
fun, I spent some time working at an anodising company, sulfuric and caustic vats
I've sorta sensative to acid even jumper cables
I always keep baking soda on hand for that reason
we had 20+foot long heated vats of the stuff, you dont catch colds while working in that atmosphere
or WISH you did anyway
now THIS is caustic... http://sfgate.com//flat/archive/2007/09/24/chronicle/archive/2007/09/24/MN8TSAIM4.html