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I have a question about the axis interface
just ask,someone may be able to help
actualy I got confused for a second - it is about the TKemc interface - in the active commands area the current workplane doesn't seem to follow the program I am running
part of my program uses g54 and another part uses g55 but the commands show g55 when I think it is cutting in g54 ?
the active commands show the state as of the line that the interpreter is interpreting
the interpreter works well ahead of the actual motion controller
(up to 200 lines or more)
thats what I thought - just wanted to ask to be sure -
but as a not - that is kinda confusing - not what is common on industrial machine controlers like HASS and FANUK
Thanks for the clarification though
fwiw I don't like that either
but, it's a pretty minor thing
I guess I never look at those at all
you don't use tkemc much at all do you?
those are in AXIS too, but we put them on the MDI tab because we figured they were useless at all other times
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did anyone tune a random drive before?
with unknown potentiometers :p
I have P1 P2 and P3 and I have nfc what they are, They are PID(that much I know)
can you cange one and see what hapens and determinate if it's P/I/D?
no docs available?
aggressive cat is aggressive!
defensive cat is defensive!
logger_emc is logging?
it sounded kind of like a lolcat meme
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where can we order the live cd?
i tried 4 times...my internet provider sucks
takes 50 hours
then connection cuts
anywhere i can order it?
jeeten: just a second, I'm looking for a link to a mailing list post for you
thanks mucho gracias
I don't know if anyone actually tried this service the last time it was mentioned
jepler:how close is the 2.2 release?
hi there people
I can probably send you a CD - I believe I have your address
I'm not sure what shipping to Mauritius costs though :)
ok..no problem...i will gladly wire you the money.
including cd duplication costa
my email is email@example.com
not necessary, unless I see that it costs $100 to ship to you
could you give me details to wire transfer ?
if necessary, I will. I don't mind spending a few bucks on shipping for you
(as long as you buy dinner if I ever get out there :) )
i would gladly wire you...just to keep things interesting...
ok...heres the deal.. you stay at my place,board + room
(I'm the guy who mentioned travel on the gecko list, if you haven't figured it out yet :) )
that's a deal!
you will give me a good advance notice before coming..
so i can set up things
well, since it takes about 3 days to fly there, I can't help it
as long as I mention it before I take off
hmm could be time to set up a bittorrent feed
do you want to wait for 2.2 or get something now?
um..i am hard pressed by some poeple to get something solid working
I think 2.2 will be released "before the end of the year", but I don't know for sure
ok. let me check shipping prices
well,i just need to get something for PR...
they just want to see something made in mauritius cutting somethin
(seriously..do give me a few weeks notice if you are coming)
you'll probably have 6 months notice - it's not all that cheap to get there so it would take some planning :)
unless I manage to do a round-the-world trip this November-December, which I may do
wait for winter...summer is taken up by elite tourists
the air mauritius raises prices severely in summer
wait wait - I want to send you cd's also..
hmmm. so it's spring there right now
winter is ending .
the hotelas are gearing up,tourist prices skyrocketing right now
even now they are room -saturated..
but if u stay at my place..
things are super cheap
I remember you mentioning that very good restaurants are like $5 a meal
location based: in city quite cheap
just get cheese on toast for that here at a cheap cafe
near beaches and resorts (or if you look like a white rich tourist)
things get expensive.
archivist, heh - you can't even get coffee there for that price (none you'd want to drink anyway)
nah...no need for cheese..
if i order..(i'm indian of origin) i make things cheap
I'd look like a white rich tourist for a couple of days, then I'd start to look like a red rich tourist :)
yeah...my bro in law..he's scotish
SWPadnos, cheap roadside drivers cafe not the posh crap
he had a hell of a time with the sun
he became completely like a lobster..
he got cooked
my ancestry is eastern european, so if I spend much time outdoors, I end up with a nice dark tan - I'm kind of olive skinned unless i'm pasty white from being in the basement at the computer all the time :)
he didn't really like MRU though
too placid...not much to do except swim,fish.hike,
very good if looking for relax time.
do you have postal codes there? I don't see one with your address
nah...too small country...no postal code
which address is that..the one saying morc montreal coromandel?
well, UPS and FedEx are expensive as hell. US postal service isn't too bad, but there's no transit time listed forthe $2.70 rate
normal posting should do
we bought a 5 axis cnc,a vmc and an edm
we should make killer gantries with those.
the transit time is likely to be 2-3 weeks. the priority and express mail are 6-10 days
just take ordinary mail...
"First Class International" only says "varies" for transit time, but it's only $2.70 :)
that should do...
i will be needing emc only in like a month..
ok, so the address you posted in the gecko group is good - at Adaptive Neuro-Computing Associates ??
yeah...one is my office...
one is my home office.
both are used...but i prefer morc montreal..
what do you think of my purchases:
1 5 axis cnc
ok - that's the one I have. I'll try to get it out this week, though I'm busy on a big project so I'm not sure I'll be able to
sounds good to me :)
that should be great for my factory
indeed. the only thing missing is a lathe
and big bandsaw
take your time..i am stepping from VB io.dll right now...fine for small stuff
and a grinding machine
and a polishing machine
i had a 15000 $ loan. i got each second hand for like 5000$
oh, in that case you're doing well :
there was a fanuc lathe... i had no money left
someone from madagascar took it
the prices was like near scrap...
now i have to figure what is damaged,what is still working etc..
should take me two months..
even i can't recondition them all immediately,i think thats the best purchases i got
let's hope so :)
the 5 axis cnc has a lathe..
you can use a reasonably-sized mill as a lathe for some projects
but no feeder.
SWPadnos: what site did you point me at the other day when you were talking about the quad quad athlon 1u system?
[13:23:51] <SWPadnos> http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/Stonehaven-A135.htm
thnaks swpadnos...if any problem do advise me...gotta do a db software for a customer.
catch u guys later
ok - see you later
c u jep
that thing is probably the loudest computer you've ever seen - it has 6 pairs of 1u fans, which are probably running at 5000 RPM
jepler, thinking of upgrading your compile server? :)
that's a whole farm on its own
SWPadnos: oh I just wanna look at the specs and drool
that's a whole lotta computer
I'm surprised it only takes up to 64G memory
yeah, it is
wow - only $1750 for the motherboard
heh - ok. I was initially surprised it's so inexpensive, but I think that system could be put together for around half the price
I don't spot any 16-core AMDs besides the 1U -- am I overlooking them?
they're just using a SuperMicro 1u server
the motherboard is available for $800
it's about $9k for a motherboard, 4xquad-core CPU, 63 GB, and 3x 1TB drives (plus a big-ass case to hold it all)
err - 64 GB
can you ship one of those to me? If so, you can sleep on my floor when you come visiting..
I may want you to pay for shipping though
incidentally, I found a place that has those high resolution monitors in stock for only $1000 or so
stop tempting me
which is a lot for a 22" LCD but ...
I need to see if I can get Wolf:ET to work at full res. that would be awesome (if it's not a slideshow)
I think I'd be disappointed in a 200dpi screen because I'd be keenly aware of all the software that works badly with it
also, the cheapo one I have will only get to 33 or 40 Hz refresh or some such, and that's assuming I had 4 DVI outputs set up the right way
otoh, $1k isn't all that much - I still have (and use) a 21" monitor that cost me more than that
cradek: with jigglywindow technology you could set certain ill-behaved windows to have a fixed 2x magnification
the color probably isn't as good on the LCD, though it's not bad by any means
jepler: is jigglywindow the same as jellovision, or is this another new X "technology"?
cradek: sorry, I meant jellovision
it's amazing how much my wife likes her jellovision
not many places on pricewatch.com show the opteron 8347 or 8350
is it just a paper launch?
$800 cheapest, $900 for the HE version
no, I think they actually exist
but the 8xxx series is only needed for quad or octal socket machines, so it's not a very consumer-ish thing
wow -- 4 cores @ 1.9GHz in only 55W? (8347HE)
pretty amazing, huh
the core2 duo is available in 33W packages (up to 2GHz or thereabouts)
(dual core, just for the power comparison)
that sure is a turnaround compared to the 130W monsters of a couple years ago (Pentium D for instance)
yeah - I think my Athlon 1800 (1533 MHz) is 95W
and some of the Pentium-whatevers were in the 200W range IIRC
03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/scripts/latency-test:
* Allow specification of both base-period and servo period
* Allow use of standard suffixes (e.g., ms, us, ns) when specifying period to te
* Allow testing of one-thread systems (specify "-" or 0 for other period)
got anything coming Fed Ex? http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/09/26/vo.tx.fedex.truck.crash.wfaa
flash.... crap... oh yea Hi JymmmEMC
LawrenceG: if you can't watch the video on ubuntu, you suck =)
oh hi LawrenceG ;)
[17:52:26] <LawrenceG> http://imagebin.ca/view/8y5uQE.html
got some new collets for my machine
todays job is to build a box around the holder I cut
on the LG washing machine?
or the HF machine =)
LG... they stole my intials!
my messy desk.... better pictures in a few hours :}
bbl... taking the dog and the wife for a walk
who's walking who?
how are you these days?
do you know where the sample gcode is on the stock ubuntu install?
no, wait. that's not it
got a guy on the phone & no system here...
if you run a sample config (without installing it in your home directory) it will default to that location
hey - do you still have that modbus VFD sitting around?
cool, a guy in CA is asking me...
ok. any way you can spare it for a little while so I can test my modbus module with something other than a $6000 PLC?
(that I have to give back soon)
the whole modbus project keeps coming & going. No one can decide whether they're going to put a modbus plc in this machine or not...
I downloaded libmodbus (one of the two of them anyway), and it seems to work fine. I can read/write registers with the demo program
the drive is installed in a machine, but I'm supposed to get a plc to play with from these folks any day now
yep, everyone calls theirs libmodbus!
Is this code you can send me? I can try it out here this evening if you want!
the main problem is making a generic modbus HAL module (user or kernel space)
I was thinking user space
well, it's kind of geared toward the PLC I have at the moment. lemme get the link to this libmodbus though - it works with minimal tweaking
the generic part is the problem
maybe it makes more sense to have specific modules for whatever is connected
it would be like "loadusr (if thats the command) modbus 40200 40201 40202" I guess...
well, sort of
so you'd know what registeres you could read & write
yea, sort of...
there are several address spaces for modbus, and some PLCs can combine two 16-bit integers into a single 32-bit integer
OK, I admit it, I haven't thought this through! ;)
you can send block read/write commands, so aggregating multiple addresses into a single packet is much more efficient
dot dot dot :)
I was sticking with the old time standard stuff, 16 bit registers, commands 3 & 6 (I think are read regs & wrte regs)
then again, if you want separate modules for each device, then you have a problem of sharing the serial port
there's still read_register_multiple
fora PLC, there are also coil read/write and input/output read/write
that's handled by the device address, but there could only be one module
no - sharing the serial port as in "two modules wanted to write at the same time, which one gets to?"
icky, but worky!
that means one device per port
EMC2 - taking the "bus" out of "modbus" for 37 minutes!
or multiple devices all defined statically at module load time
that's the "sharing the serial port" question
we're almost killing the "mod" part too!
I guess a userspace program can have as much config data as it wants - it can use its own ini / xml file if necessary
I was thinking of the issues for an RT implementation
I was just going to say that, but I can't bear to add more config files...
once we move everything over to SGML, it'll all be in one file ...
worse in the rt domain is modbus/tcp
how'd you like to autodetect & drive network card hardware!
this library does support TCP packets, and RTNet works, for small values of work
haven't looked at RTNet yet
I did a little, plus talked to some guys that got it working (for power substations, I think)
Even has a optional probe.... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921754000P?vName=Gifts&keyword=009-21754&sLevel=0&sid=ie_11502_A_x8
[18:36:03] <SWPadnos> https://launchpad.net/libmodbus/
[18:36:22] <SWPadnos> http://copyleft.free.fr/wordpress/index.php/libmodbus/
the second link is where I downloaded it
I haven't emailed about 1.4 yet
(it's at version 1.2 now)
I think the other one is at 0.2.1 or something
oh, it's at 0.0.1 I guess :)
Craftsman CNC machine, Even has a optional probe.... http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00921754000P?vName=Gifts&keyword=009-21754&sLevel=0&sid=ie_11502_A_x8
I have got this going here with the VFD: http://pes.free.fr/
Well, back after a while...
that's the crappy one
I did a lot of rework & de-Frenchifying
I basically only had to remove all the write loops in the demo (and change the baud rate)
there's not a lot of documentation, but the code is reasonably laid out
hmm - stuff oozing out of this video card capasitors is probably why it became flakey.
hm yeah that's not supposed to happen
that's why they have the little creases in the top of the can
so they can spray instead of explode (neither of which is supposed to happen :) )
I think it may have gotten too hot.
The card was the second card in a dell slim case. where the cards sit - there is no real airflow.
(well - now there is ;))
what's up skunkworks_ ?
I meant to say sam .. but autocomplete has a weird way to function
it seldom writes what I mean it to :P
* alex_joni gets dizzy from looking at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Debian-package-cycle.png
clear as muc
Hello today skunkworks, skinnupuppy here working on pops pc...
* alex_joni laughs at "My Buddhist Name"
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seems my name is "Prince Brilliant Wisdom"
alex_joni: you must have a link..
[20:04:07] <alex_joni> http://mybuddhistname.com/index.php
Joy Moon Queen
heh, seems yours fits you too
err.. not that
what did you get?
I tried "sam sokolik"
ah - I added my middle name
Great Teacher Cloud Pure
I like that better
sounds about right
* skunkworks_ doesn't know about the 'pure' part
great teacher (on cncforum at least :P), and cloud pure for innocence
* alex_joni didn't want to say naivity :P
gentlemen, good day, is there a match4 or match2 along with match8 in hal?
and where might i find the syntax for match
match8? or 2 or 4?
if it exists?
Roguish: "man match8"
Roguish: you can use it as a match4 by leaving some of the .aN pins and .bN pins unconnected
just leave unneeded pins unconnected
for instance, by connecting only .a0, .a1, .b0, and .b1 you create a "match2"
[20:10:17] <alex_joni> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/match8.9.html
(when not otherwise documented, pins generally default to 0, 0.0 or FALSE; you'll notice that the manpage shows that match8.N.in, the cascade input, defaults to 1 or TRUE)
then does one loadrt match8 or match4 or match2?
heh. I have two great names, depending on whether I use my middle name or not:
"Great Teacher Diamond Pleasure Pounder"
you 'loadrt match8' and refer to 'match8.0.etc'
but in your mind you know you're only matching two elements
and "The Monk Great Eloquence"
SWPadnos: pleasure pounder? eww
sounds like some of the stuff that spamassassin doesn't catch
maybe when you get older, it won't seem so ewww ;)
maybe eww wasn't the best sound :)
pleasure pounder.. just rolls off the Tongue
sounds like something you'd order at burger king
it was about time someone implemented an alternative to DNS
and ANDNA sounds nie
[20:42:14] <alex_joni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANDNA
* skunkworks_ pronounces it a few times..
jepler: can i use net with a float? like with a mux input?
or anyone else?
sure you can
net signal-name(of_type_float) halpin(float) halpin(float) ...
so 'net mux4.0.in0 0.01' is ok?
you want to set a value?
net links pins together
Roguish: If you look at the manpage for mux4 (terminal: man mux4) you'll see that 'in0' through 'in3' are of type 'float'
ok, what about man page for 'net'?
net signame pinname ...
Create signname to match the type of pinname if it does not yet
exist. Then, link signame to each pinname in turn. Arrows may
be used as in linkps.
if 'signame' existed already but with a different type (such as bit) then the net command will fail with an error
gotta use the long way.
halcmd: loadrt mux4
halcmd: net example mux4.0.in0
halcmd: net example mux4.0.sel0
<stdin>:2: Type mismatch on pin 'mux4.0.sel0'
what was the command called that brought up a line with the current execution time of various threads?
halcmd show thread
the execution times are in parentheses next to the thread names and the function names
here I was thinking it was a much longer convoluted name
you can alias halcmd to something much longer if you choose
good night all
see yo alex_joni
or should I say "Prince Brilliant Wisdom"
good night Great Teacher Diamond Pleasure Pounder
err - night
SWPadnos: That's QUARTER POUNDER to you
is someone feeling PROUD???
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when you have an emc e-stop output(via pluto_servo) and an external e-stop button or'ed together, should the output of the or'ing be sent back into emc so it knows when the user hits the external e-stop?(instead of freaking becauss of falowing error)
what emc signal would that input be conected to?