[02:40:35] <ohiopctechDOTcom> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmiIeAkE-o&mode=related&search=
03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/ (control.c command.c): simplify probing logic
yay cia is back
03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/ (upci.c upci.h): first commit of user space PCI lib
03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/ (bitfile.c bitfile.h): first commit of Xilinx bitfile manipulation lib
03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/ (bfload.c Submakefile): new FPGA bitfile loader
03jmkasunich 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/Makefile: new FPGA bitfile loader
i used PDM by mistake, to jog my servos. It works better than PWM for my needs, as it runs smoother at very low Duty Cycles. PDM approaches 0% closer than PWM and is more responsive. http://imagebin.org/8432
in PDM the pulse width is constant, only the frequency changes ( so sayeth the halscope )
...and it was good
same width UNTL, at higher freq, they 'collide' or merge into groups
I've got a hardware question
What do you think about C3 CpU (VIA EPIA)
Yes, you can make paper machet with a plasma cutter
NightHawk_Eng: I dont know, but you can run emc from a live cd and run the latency tests to see if it is acceptable
TOMP: I haven't this board. I have to order it :(
Some have found that P3's do better than P4's, but I couldn't tell you why though.
NightHawk_Eng: sorry, i have no experience with it, try the wiki to see it the words are in any pages by using the search function at bottom left corner
Jymmmm : I've done some test with RTAI and I'v found that a P3 1000 is a lot better than P4 3.2Ghz
the problem is I have to found a mini-itx to start developing my own electronics for CNC
Commell has very interesting mini-itx board but the problem is the CPU. I still haven't found a p3 reseller (i know it is obsolete) but for rtai is the best
I'm thinking about VIA C3 is a sort of clone with some power tweaking, but I'm not sure
NightHawk_Eng: hey I do have some experience... i didnt recognize the Centaur Cyrix C3 processor... I had problems with one nearly 2 years ago, and replaced the chip with a standard intel P3. The computer is running a 3 axis stepper setup with an older EMC installation now.
and it was a VIA motherboard
there is new processor , VIA C7, but i'm scareb about the new features it has (we found that Hyperthreading, Clock throttling and so on is latency killer)
tomp : interesting
it was not incompatible, it was just slow
tomp : so, you had problem with this chip
problem, not death :)
tomp : I've read that VIA C3 is a different CPU than Cyrix (now it has new core called Nehemiah)
hmmm. then i dont know... the bios reported "Cyrix Centaur Hauls" and the chip said Cyrix on it
how many Mhz
NightHawk_Eng: maybe what you want can be asked on the group list for emc. One fellow is using some mini-itx boards that are compatible. ( my old board was 133Mhz? was pretty slow )
NightHawk_Eng: look at this all about mini-itx and emc http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=emc-users%40lists.sourceforge.net&q=mini-itx
manfredi lito uses one
3am here! buona note!
it's 10:00 Am here. Italy
good night!!! (Buona notte)!!!
many many thanx
Hello there. I'm studying ncd and vhd files now..
VIA C3 or VIA C7.... this is the problem!!!! Help me. I don't know which one will be the best for realtime.
As I said some time ago, I'd like to develop my own series of CNC routers with LinuxEMC. Now I'm searching a godd Mobo with Mini-itx form factor
I've done some test with various CPU. I've found that P3 1000 is the best for realtime compared to:
On board video with shared memory is one of the killers.
Now. The P3 is no longer available on the market so the best solution is to buy a ITX with a CPU directly soldered to it
Yeah, you are right but I've found that disabilng 3d performance will improve latency
the mobo I've found is VIA EPIA M10000 (C3 Nehemiah 1.0Ghz) or JetWay Versa F4 15000 (C7 @1.5Ghz and DDR2 Support)
the price is very similar (150 - 160 euros)
and I can't test it before buying (online shop)
good morning for all
( where i live is morning) heheh :)
where i find dadshit about MESA 5I20 in spanish
In Italy is 3:03 PM ;)
In Brazil is 10:00 pm
where i find dadshit about MESA 5I20 in spanish?
rafa__: I don't know of many mesa 5i20 documentation in spanish.;
I found nothing useful for your rafa. Only English for Mesa 5i20
dear jepler i find in documentation but i dont see it
I read in inglish
Its good ideia if emc extends in any languages:
spanish is good ideia
like the rest of emc, all the documentation is written by volunteers
i am from brasil
for me no problem but ...
emc is hard because this
emc is hard for some people ( in brasil, argentina etc..)
like the rest of emc, all the documentation is written by volunteers
Brasil and Argentina is countrey where economy in industry metalurgical is great
the 2 is good conuntry off difusion emc
The PDM variation of the hal component 'pwmgen' is like a frequency generated with a fixed width pulse. What determines the pulse width?
jmkasunich is the expert on it - as he wrote it.
skunkworks : do you which one could answer to my litlle dilemma?
I do not know.. I think your just going to have to test them. Buy one of each ;)
I think that it's the only way.
post on the wiki your results for others
can you give me the url?
I know its a dummy wuestion :)
[14:01:49] <skunkworks> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl
tomp: the pdm period is determined by the frequency of the thread where make-pulses is executed
tomp: so if it's in a 50us base-period, then the active/inactive periods will be around 50us +- latency
[14:16:49] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36361
he got it working on fiesty fawn.
hmm - with what he did - is he just running sim?
I was also wondering that
I'm sure a build of sim from source would be pretty easy
What would be the command to test if the rtai is installed/
I suppose the latency test huh
I want to add probe protection to the motion controller
it seems like it should be optional
I can't decide how to do it
I think "protection" = if the probe trips while not probing, stop
a few ideas:
have a motion.protect-the-probe param or pin, and if it's true, stop when the probe trips if not probing
have a motion.abort-right-now input pin, and a motion.i-am-probing-now output, and let the user make 'probe && !probing => abort' if he wants
[14:44:10] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=292816#post292816
it's very possible 2.6.15-magma installs and works fine on hirsute hedgehog 17.08
jepler: great info, now raised period to 500000 (1/2 mS), and i can move at 1/2% DutyCycle :) larger pulse width allows lower velocities! makes this great harmonic as I spin the pyvcp D% knob from -99% to +99%
tomp: what are you doing?
jepler: moving a dc servo with a pwmgen, and a pyvcp panel. it's a 24V pittmann brushed motor and a l298 hbridge, using up/down fed with PDM
jepler: when using my pyvcp button hooked to a signal: I push it, AXIS pops up an (expected) error, I let go of the button, the signal is stuck at true forever until I press/release the button again
jepler: is it an AXIS bug? pyvcp bug? other?
cradek: strange behavior.
cradek: pyvcp or tk bug, I'd say
while the button is pressed in, tk should have grab and that guarantees it will see the eventual button release event
tomp: and you get better low-speed control by running pwmgen make-pulses slowly than quickly?
that is contrary to my expectations
i will try to make a process value to freq converter for edm, and limit the motion using encoder and watching the values (non emc, just hal )
jepler: PDM seems better, lots better, as pwm wouldnt even generate values near 0 in most tests (largish deadband say from +3%DuytyCycle thru -3%DutyCycle), while pdm is good right to 0 and at finer resolutions near 0 (motion at +/- 0.5%
larger pulse width is good to get some motion near 0 with PDM, but gets coggy if too big
OK -- so you're talking about motor behavior, not saying that pwmgen won't give a 1/2% duty cycle when you observe its output in halscope
jepler: halscope shows nada near 0 with pwmgen AND the motor dont move ;)
you're saying that with a small period (e.g., 50us) and duty cycle (e.g., 1/2%) you don't get good motor movement
if that's true, it's a pwmgen bug
assuming you're observing the right thread in halscope
jepler: i observed the pin state
as i understand it, it's correct behaiviour for many combinations of period and frequency to disallow many requests (jmk described this to me) also i dont use 'dither'. i will try to get some screen shots with associated thread period and pwmgen frequency.
jepler' disallow' means to truncate or floor usually, but near 0 it rounds to 0 creating deadband
here's the "test" I just ran: http://pastebin.ca/467533
I used PDM mode (pwm-freq 0) and saw output pulses with values of .0001 (1/100%) and smaller
jepler: running it ...
scope the "fast" thread
scope the signal "pwmgen.0.pwm" and also trigger on its rising edge
I *do* stop getting pulses at around .000025
jepler: how do you change the frequency with this setup? i got the scope up, i got the signal, halcsope printing dots like crazy to the terminal 'waiting to get ready'..... with scope zoomed all the way out i can see the pin like signal blips at 10mS/div.
oh -- it should be 'loadusr -w halscope' (lowercase w) but that isn't affecting the operation of halscope
jepler: do you setp from another terminal?
I didn't pay attention so much to the pulses themselves, but at the fact that halscope was consistently triggering even when I made low duty cycles
no pulses out ( ok at 2% with these params ) hal file is on screen, halmeter shows request is 1%. i'll play with it a bit , i see i had only 1 thread that handled both 'update' and 'make-pulses'
scope is zoomed all the way out and i cant see any on auto trigger
you're not using pdm
you have pwm-freq 1000
no, in the stuff i dont like , i use pwm, in the stuff i like i use pdm, the pdm works at near 0 and i'll capture that now
i showed you what didnt work,
I retry to write my question (maybe someone joined this channel with some experience with mini-itx)
Anyone know Jetway Mini-itx? 1.5Ghz will work with linuxcnc
jepler: heres the PDM scope capture and hal file (sorry for the confusion ) http://imagebin.org/8435
it works down to "-8e-05" DutyCycle but is just a cog every 7 seconds, :)
actual motion at motor
tomp: have you closed the loop yet?
next step after smooth motion,i do have 1um linear scales ready (general dynamics)
i think want to up the motor velocity ( belts 1:5 + 1:6 for 1:30 ) get away from cogging, and increase the torq, stay in very smooth range while getting good low speed ( screw hi speed )
btw: i may never close the loop, just monitor position ( scales not used for velocity loop, just limit stroke )
I think (in my mind) that once you close the loop - the pid will do what ever to make the motor perform acrodinly.. Cradek was running his lathe with iirc +/-5 levels of pwm
and getting very decent performance out of it.
i wont be using pid, just p (got that already ). I & D bad for edm, they disrespect the process and try to maintain velocity. the velocity is irrellevant, the relative proximity of tool to work is all important, so this method allows moving up & down between 2 limits , pid would aggravate that and enforce forward progression at the expense of the process ( which would go to hell )
Ehi folks, what about flash IDE memory instead of HD. How many Gb is needed for Linuxcnc (ubuntu + linuxcnc)
looks like about 4gb
Skunkworks : thanx. In fact it looks like 4Gb
Anyone use a Flash HD instead a regular HD (not live distro but installed)
I have gotten the livecd to boot off of a usb keychain drive..
I have read that Flash IDE drive has a maximum R//W capability. I'm thinking about turning off the swap partiotion on linux (I've got 1Gb of RAM)
In Italy 4Gb of flash IDE drive = 108Euros
pretty expensive but I think it will be more safe for an industrial environment
Temperature drift and mechanical shocks or vibration will kill a regular HD, don't you think?
Here in Italy is 8:00 PM..... dinner time.... see you later... CIAO!!!
uh oh. CIA isn't listening anymore..
good - they shouldn't be listening anyway
03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py: revert rev 1.67: it broke mouse incremental jogging
the question is... What has fenn been up to?
I was *JUST* wondering that
oh wait, I wasn't :)
I think he's taking a break from irc..
Now why would anyone want to do that?
he isn't in jail is he? ;)
hey - you can pan around in eagle with the center mouse button.
* skunkworks didn't know that
that makes things easier
I 'will' get used to eagles gui one of these days.
Reply from SWPadnos: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=150
skunkworks: that's so windows of you
64 bytes from SWPadnos: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.246 ms
* alex_joni returns to his lecture
skunkworks : I've just buyed the Jetway Versa F4 1.5Ghz
ASAP I'll give you some info about latency
rayh had some success with a Jetway board based on the 1 GHz eden with the CN7 chipset (I think it was)
SWPadnos: I have to choose between C3 nehemiah and the new C7 Chipset. I'm glad I have chosen the right one :)
let's hope so :)
I'd like to develop a slackware distro with rtai and linuxcnc, only for industrial application (no office or interner packages, only cad and CNC)
any particular reason for slackware?
removing packages from our current ubuntu CD would be a trivial task
installing from the ubuntu "server" disc and adding the packages you want is another good option -- "server" installs on systems with 64 megs RAM and needs less than 500GMB disk according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes#head-3ce6c302a65d40697613c768ccd0eca28691c7e3
that should say 500MB
true (in fact I've done that)
because I'd like slackware, it's kind of... "purity" :)
is apt-get install emc2 enough? or do you need *ubuntu-dekstop ?
i'd like to install XCFE and RTAI
XCFE is so lightweight
NightHawk_Eng: xubuntu-desktop then
you're certainly free to do that, and you may find the wiki page "RtaiFromScratch" helpful in doing it -- but don't expect to find anybody excited about helping you through each step of compiling RTAI, which can be a very frustrating process.
* alex_joni certainly lost the enthusiasm to do that again very soon
I think I have the just amount of enthusiasm to try, don't you think?
NightHawk_Eng: then by all means, it can be a good learning experience
at least you'll be good with patching, compiling kernels, and debugging deadlocks :D
I found that rtai3.5 + linux 2.6.19 (latest version supported) does not work
so use 2.6.17 which is the next older
I'll use Slackware 10.2
kernel 2.6.15 and rtai 3.3
I found that RTAI magma (from CVS) worked fine with 22.214.171.124, on an SMP Opteron machine
3.3 might be a bit old
I know it will work on Slack 10.2
It could be a good starting point
but that was with module versioning on, which prevented me from compiling RTAI (and I'm still in the process of correcting that error, but with kernel 2.6.20-11)
SWPadnos: I hate to base a stable system on cvs snapshot of the day, but I guess that's the way to get support for newer kernels
since A64 is only available from CVS, I have no choice
SWPadnos: you said it was slower?
it sure seemed that way. it may have been CPU freq scaling
I just did a full kernel + modules build on non-RT in 6 minutes or so
it took something like 20 minutes on RT (I think)
how does cpufreq scaling work with RT? (or does it?)
it probably doesn't if you really want to run a machine
my main goal is to be able to do hardware driver development on my dual dual-core Opteron system, so I only care that I can load the modules
if that's the case, why not QEMU w/32bit stock kernel?
I have VMWare on that machine, but still any compiling in a VM would only use one core
and slowly at that
someone should put together a cross compiling enviroment
I'll probably need to do that for my Mesa 4C81, but one thing at a time :)
would RTAI by any chance work on uCLinux or ELKS?
hmmm. good question(s)
but if you're messing with uCLinux or ELKS, you can probably get down far enough to
make a dedicated system, without a "true" RTOS
yes, but I was thinking of getting EMC onto it
all you really need is a new RTAPI to stick EMC on top of
and that can sit on anything you want, for the most part
a PC just seems overkill to control a machine
seems overkill for most things people do ;)
more reason to give up the PC =)
go completely wearable
EMC helps obese climber to scale Everest
could we port emc to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_integrator
I don't know what is scarier - that it was made at all - or that it was used up to the 80's
yo yo! i got my indicator and my 9x12 granite surface plate.. we can start doing some precision work now i the basement.. ;)
goodnight to everybody. Here, in Italy, is 11.22 PM
i coulda got the surface palte and indicator monday... but i had them shipped to work.. and i sorta didn't go in till today!
... and they gave me a dollar an hour raise today?
after not going in or calling two days in a row.. does that sound right?
maybe they were worried i had another job?
now go clean the shipping dust of that rock with some ruby dust ;)
ruby dust?.. hmmm
i was thinking some laquer thinner.. or windex
it's one sexy hunk of rock.. that's all i have to say about it
always diamond dust }:-)
are you tryin to hurt my new bitch already?
120 micro-inch repeatable dimensioning/gaging from a toolroom Grade B granite surface plate....
too bad my indicator only goes to .001"
I think I have the exact same plate and it works
just a bit cramped
anybody got a .00001 indicator?
do you mean 1/10,000, or 1/100,000?
that's in optical polishing territory
we used to have a 4' x 8' pink.. starret plate at my pop's place... it was labratory grade
we have both .00001 and .000001 indicators
that would make a good anvil }:-)
they caught me tapping on a bearing to a shaft on that plate one day.. i got a shoe thrown at my head
toastyde1th: are those mechanical indicators?
and a stern warning to never never use that plate for a table
the ten-hundreths is digital
i found an optical grinder on ebay last night
the millionths is a capacatence probe
ds2: did you say you knew where to get a keypad yesterday? USB or PS2?
any computer store Jymmm
or if you must have PS2, they have joypads that plug inline
there is usb -> ps2 adapters
for mice anyways
it might work for a keypad
the USB to PS/2 adapters rely on the device to sense and change modes
i never looked into them
Jymmm: did you look to see if excess sol'n had any more of the PS/2 joypads?
I mean AT which can be passively adapted to PS/2
why does someone in here need a high accuracy indicator
i was just researching my new surface plate...
toastyde1th: how much is the 10millionth indicator typically?
it's repeatable down to .000005"
i dunno how much it costs
i think they're like 500-600?
a mic reading down to 50millionth is cheap
yeah they aren't cheap
the half tenth mark seems to be where the price starts to get logarithmic
my digital mic's are being held hostage until i apologize to my entire family for something i didn't do...
insofar as measurement stuff
oh I see
ohiopctechDOTcom: digital mics are cheap... think a Mitutoyo is only about $80ish
toastyde1th is now known as toastydeath
wonder what is involved in doing a check of gage pins if I don't care about NIST traceability
[21:57:10] <ohiopctechDOTcom> http://www.qualitydigest.com/aug03/articles/03_article.shtml
<- interesting surface plate article...
03petev 07TRUNK * 10emc2/configs/boss/boss.ini:
-Started debugging machine.
-Checkpoint for homing problem.
ds2: PS2 no, they had joystick port ones though
Jymmm: well, then you can either go with a USB one (any big lots around here seems to have them) or...
expensive at biglots
I could buy from frys for $20 and have a warranty =)
where you at Jymmm? i got one i'll sell ya for 5
big lots accepts returns
ds2: but would be out of stock to echange it
it's a flight stick so it has a throttle for the z axis
ohiopctechDOTcom: ds2 is looking for one
5 plus shipping... it's usb ohh...
I got a bunch of the Joypads with AT keyboard interfaces so....
topgun after burner II USB joystick
I'm looking for NUMBER_PADS, not joysticks
sheesh ok.. i'm with the program now
these joypads have buttons you can program with the scan code
like for pos sales?
I want to be able to use the numbers too in thefuture, to input position, count, speed, etc
goto deanza next month and look there?
like this http://www.labtec.com/lang/images/0/484.jpg
hey... i have a real EMC related topic... when i try to touch off in axis and i input ANY # other than 0.0000 that's already there, it tells me bad # format
ohiopctechDOTcom: what emc version?
it is the live cd
installed with the auto updates from ubuntu
what emc version is that?
the cd changes over time
2.14 i believe?
ok let me build that version
ehh.. sorry for the trouble..
does it say bad number format before or after you OK?
it's not a huge deal, i expected it to work like... i touch off on the top of the stock and tell axis that's -0.01" so it doesn't cut but i see what it gonna do to the part
as soon as i typ anything into that box on the touch off window
it should change as you type, and the error should disappear whenever you have something sane in there
say i type -0.01
let me try it
I don't mean to sound harsh on this, but ever since I started with EMC back in the BDI days, one thing has ALWAYS bugged me.... the lack of being able to see the version easily. be it a live cd, installed, boot menu, help, about, just SOMEWHERE so you can distinguish one build from another one. No uname-a bullshit either. something that has it all as a "build number that includes distro_emc_varsion+axis_version (if applicable).
Jymmmmmmm: and relax please :-)
cradek: No, this is a biggy for me.... you can't even tell from the ISO you dl what is what.
* ohiopctechDOTcom hands jymm a beer
it's there in my copy
ohiopctechDOTcom: ISO's dont have a help, about
once it's booted...
it's not even downloaded yet
or dive inside the iso and look at the files... (not easy, but it's an idea)
or a naming convetion on the ISO that matches what you might find on the CLI, or in help,about
as you download the iso.. before you click save... rename it to something useful... that's what i did when i dl any iso file
and most other ifles
i rename them to something i can remember instead of emclive.iso or whatever
I ad the date usually, but that doens't always help.
when someone asks "what veriosn did you install" I couldn't tell them.
Jymmmmmmm: there's no version on the emc2 live cd for a reason - it's dapper with emc, kernel, and rtai packages added. Each of those three things has a version.
as soon as I put a version number on the CD, people would think the right way to do an update is to download the new version of the iso, and that's dead wrong
so there's no version number on it (except "it's dapper") and I don't tell anyone when/if I update it.
well, there should be SOME way to distingish between them, even if it's a funky numbering scheme... 0001-00043-93 distro-emc-axis or some such thing.
you guys work almost exclusively from CVS, rest of us dont
just name it by the MD5sum of the ISO
the point is that you shouldn't be downloading ISOs all the time, you should be updating the packages that need it (or not updating at all, if you don't have a specific need to)
crepincd1tcom: well it seems to work for me
ds2: ok, then that md5 should also be avialable within CLI and maybe helpabout too
Jymmm: md5sum /dev/cdrom
SWPadnos: this is over years, not just the next patch
every package in ubuntu has a version number
and the kernel, and rtai
when you downloaded what CD is totally irrelevant
ok, and where are those available ?
dpkg -l, synaptic, etc
the emc version is also available in help/about
and is that available from help/about too?
they will match
there's no package list online, if that's what you're asking about
no, just some unified place to look at
system -> administration -> Synaptic package manager
how long would it take to build a cvs version of emc2 on my p2-233 with 384mb of ram? ballpark...
fwiw, emc1 never had version numbers, and the emc versions was often confused with the bdi version etc, it was a real swirl
XPsp2, on cdrom, right click my computer, you have XPsp2 listed, it's consistant,
ohiopctechDOTcom: 10 mins ballpark
ohiopctechDOTcom, 10 minutes or so, maybe a little more
cradek: that's EXACTLY my point, it doens't exist.
even if it's a txt file that can be cat
Jymmmmmmm: well emc2 is not bdi and we do it differently now
Jymmmmmmm, it's not consistent - does that tell you eactly which revisions of what patchset you have installed?
you're getting data like "XP SP2" , which is equivalent to "Dapper"
Jymmmmmmm: synaptic will show you exactly what version of EVERY package you have.
ohhh... i got my 8mm skate bearings today
they are black n yellow .. woohoo
ohiopctechDOTcom: can you tell me exactly step by step what you're doing? It seems perfect here
8 of them.. and some 3/4 drill rod...
incidentally, system -> about Ubuntu will give you the release version (such as "Dapper, released in June 2006")
cradek: I'm not looking for EVERY patch, but when someones asks me "what version did you install" I'm just looking for that "version number" in one central place, and this "number" to also be found on ISO (if applicable) is all
nobody will ask you that
err - "6.06 LTS - dapper drake, released ..."
they WILL ask what version you're currently running
what you installed is irrelevant once you have any updates
to answer the question of what emc you're running, you can use help/about
to answer the question about any package (including emc), you can use synaptic
load emc up.... (with axis) set my homes for x,y,z... move z to a place i would like to set a number for my part... hit touch off... type "-0.010"
results: bad number format
maybe load a file in between starting and touching off
[22:30:34] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/touchoff.png
is the trailing zero they key?
could it be my keyboard map or something? it's the standard english from ubuntu i believe
I'm sorry you guys aren't getting what I'm saying here (really), but it's really been frustrating over the years.
ohiopctechDOTcom: I'm really baffled. Does it ever look like mine? if you try a positive number?
could it be something in my .ini making it react this way?
experiment and see what, if any, numbers it will accept
no, i have to cancel to get it to reset to 0.0000
not even entering 0.0000 again wil lchange it
i'll try a whoile #
you're in the US right?
could it be the old keyboard i am using?
(yes, with a ",")
it's an AT keyboard with an AT to PS2 adapter
i use it cuz i like the heavy keys and the clicking ;)
after the , experiment, make sure there are no spaces
when you type it goes... "clickity click click clickity click"
nooo.. the "," was a typo here
i pay atention to the #'s i put in the other machine
i don't wanna crash it
the test was for european number formatting, which uses the comma for a decimal
the ',' experiment is to see if there is some internationalization crap going on
I'm 99% sure it's not that since the rs274 interp always requires .
but this is very puzzling
* cradek waits for it
Oh instead of Zero
when i add a ","
it changes to unknown operation
"0," = "Unknown Operation"
you could try pasting from another source, instead of keying it in
03cradek 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/task/emccanon.cc: reading the probe position was polluting canonEndPoint with offset stuff
* ohiopctechDOTcom runs around the corner again
copy n paste of "-0.0100" = "unknown operation"
*from the text editor on the live cd
can you type in something like "2.222"?
if i delete the copy n pasted info, back to nothing... it returns to "bad number format"
I get bad number format when it's empty
but as soon as I type anything (like "1") it says =1.00000
same for 2.222*
same error or same "1.00000"
Linux doesn't do EBDIC or anything odd, does it?
anything i type in there...
not even back to 0.0000
bad number format
i even typed in my name
wonder if it is a python class thing... I have seen similar behavior on other apps and it took a lot of tabbing around to get around it
it seems to think that's not a #
if i boot form the live cd it will use that config instead of mine on the HD right? (i'll unplugg the hd to be sure
i'l try it that way
cool, it will evaluate expression
with functions too :)
ha my live cd didn't weather too well out of the case on my bench apparently...
* ohiopctechDOTcom looks for the iso
* ohiopctechDOTcom will put this one in a case and label it even
looks like it calls gcode.parse() which is the same parser for loaded gcode in axis I would think
result, seq = gcode.parse("", canon, "M199 P["+v+"]", "M2")
where v is the Z coordinate you type in the dialog
that test will have to wait...
looks like i deleted the iso
* ohiopctechDOTcom redownloading the lived-cd iso @ 170kb/s
:( where is that t3 i ordered... haha j/k
from hal manual "(B I T) encoder.<chan>.velocity – Estimated speed of the quadrature signal." :) got velocity?
its ok in man encoder ( where i should be looking for the specifics :-[ )
* ohiopctechDOTcom just added the chips.gif to the top of my cnc section ... ;)
cradek: jepler: one last time.. where is the eagle script you guys made?
has anyone around here built one of the steam engines i have been watching on youtube?