stupid question - how do you find a file? I am trying to find the location of rtai_smi.ko - I know it is in the lib\modules. but I don't know the exact location. In dos I could do a dir rtai_smi.ko /s - but man dir doesn't seem to have something similar. When I do a search through the gui - I only find the one on my desktop
locat works, if you have run updatedb at some point
or find /lib/modules -name rtai_smi.ko
(or sim if that was a misspelling ;) )
wow - guess it is in usr\modules
is it built by module-assistant?
<alex_joni> mv it to /lib/modules/ etc
not making sense. Is that because I don't have head installed?
it is module that alex and jmk built to disable smi (causing latency issues with some intel chipsets)
my portable has the same chipset
I'm A, for A-L-P-H-A. :)
A, that's the first one.
filing metal, not letters
I suppose you could file letters out of metal
coarse or fine?
coarse, then fine...
filing square holes out of round ones
no, just coarse
backup plate for carriage bolts, crude work
* Jymmm waits for jmkasunich to say he's making his bolts too
then gonna shoe the horse...
damn... back is tweaked... I need to stretch and go to the gym more.
no Jymmm, not making bolts
did cut them to length tho, the ones I trash picked were too long
hey, what's the command in shell to get the current version?
linux version, that is.
uname -a gets you the whole thing, or you can get just parts
uname -r gets you the actual kernel version
I got that info right before hand... I keep thinking luser, for some reason
i was looking at the hal-manualtoolchange script and i see that it might want a 'tool in chuck' value.
i used similar when a sub might call for a tool that was already in the chuck
if the tool requested is the one you already have, then the tool change goes by real fast ( does nothing )
but i dont see a clean way to put that info inside the hal-manualtoochange, it seems to want to be in the change code, not the notify user & wait code
why would you ever ask for a tool that was already in the chuck? becuase you use subroutines that know what tools they need, but not what the chuck contains
is this case already handled in the toolcahge code?
hmm, the tool change code is tightly connected to the 2step type of tool changer ( prepare , then exchange).
i'm used to toolchangers that have no intermediate position, so have no 'tool prep'
in any case a request to prep for a tool that is already in the chuck would require handling
and there is knowledge of the tool in the chuck... nml's emc_io_status_tool_in_spindle
i dont see how a toolchanger that is not of this prep/exchange type fits into emc's toolcahnge scheme
so toolchangers w/o prep site wont work & toolchangers with 2 sites (new ready & old to be put away) wont fit into the framework
maybe toolprep can be wired to always return 'done' and the user can get away with t#nn m6
t#nn would do nothing except get the tool number of interest, the m6 would do the exchange (spindle to tool rack/carousel , no intermediate prep position)
SWPadnos: fwiw, I saw that RTAI extensions run on an ARM embedded board I have, the technologic systems te-7260
it's only 200 mhz, so it'd be a slow driver board, but I think it could be made to work
aip_tom1, the mesa board is around that speed, isn't it?
laptop is so old, it can't support beryl. :(
Hello Rugludallur, are you there?
exactly what is a "telegarden"?
it's a teleoperated garden
reading about muons
When these primary cosmic rays hit Earth's atmosphere at around 30,000m above the surface, the impacts cause nuclear reactions which produce pions. These pions decay into a muon and muon neutrino (= antineutrino) at about 9000 m altitude, which rain down upon the surface of the earth, traveling at about 0.998c. Many muons decay on the way down into Neutrinos and an electron while others reach the surface, but there are still enough to be dete
and enjoying some christmas coke :D
I'll be back later
sounds like arnie
the telegardens reminded me of robot fish http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~jliua/videogal.htm
underwater robot roombas for swimming pools ( algae eating robots )
crazy world out there
and it's not getting better
buck up: i hope it does get better & i hope i do something to make it so
I have not much problem with the world getting crazier :D
I would like to hope for a world to get less crasy and more focused on straiting out our invironmental problems.
But I think its more fun to build robotic fish ;)
do both: robotic fish cops monitoring no-fishing zone, monitoring polution levels, greenpeace-robo-fish
anything fun happening?
Lerneaen_Hydra: I'm putting stuff into my new backpack
not sure that counts as fun though
ah, right. going somewhere over christmas?
nope, after that
oh, did you manage to get a lussebulle while you were in sweden?
[15:00:54] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.rindi.com/bilder/saffransbulls.jpg
[15:27:46] <jepler> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
alex_joni: whee, nice
jepler: you think vista will be the beginning of the end?
begining of the end of microsoft? or of the world?
now I just need to figure out why my wireless doesn't connect for until I play with the network control pannel. (mainly seems like I just have to open it up)
it's because of Vista
:) in ubuntu
I know.. but that doesn't change the fact that Vista is the problem
I guess - I am using fwcutter - xp driver
I can't believe they would stoop to using xp drivers ;)
I could not get ndiswrapper to work so I tried fwcutter and I had better luck
again - everyone must have a life :)
skunkworks: what makes you think that? :
:) maybe it is just lunch time
ah, that sounds more reasonable
colin__ is now known as col
not much... real time working on my portable is about the most excitement I have had in the last few days
just trying to find what the best servo controllers are
just been to look at a mill and lathe today
both have servo motors
so need to work out what i need for it
probably mostly on how much you want to spend.
aip_tom2 is now known as aip_tom1
do you have any specs on the servos?
no not yet
need to know what i need to ask tbh
what sorta info do i need from em ?
does it matter in regards to controller choice
col: volt / ampere
col: and if they are ac or dc
ok ill try find out
will that effect what controllers i need to go for?
there fairly industrial sized machines
the lathe is running siemens control system and is made by churchhill
the mill is a hurco
col: arent there drives mounted already?
it's probably possible to use the stock drives
id hope so
if so then you would need so sort of controller like mesa or motech
(if they are common +/-10 input drives
which mesa would i need?
and is it a controll board per motor ?
[18:47:35] <skunkworks> http://www.mesanet.com/motioncardinfo.html
this is what works with emc2 right now.
[18:49:26] <skunkworks> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2_Supported_Hardware
hardware that is
so i should be able to use the stock motors ?
need more info - really.. type of motors and such.
do they have encoders and such - or resolvers
stuff like that. plus what type of drives - if the drives can be used)
resolvers are analog postitions sensors - use sin-cos sinals to find shaft angle
the lathe has encoders i know that
oh, so one period per revolution?
if i go back to the machines and write down teh info on the motors and encoders and take some pics would that help ?
pico systems on the wiki page has drive and controll solutions - up to 20 amps I think
he is a good resource also - I have ask him questions on if his drives will work for my application.
then there is gecko servo amps that take step and direction inputs.
they all seem reasonably priced so im just worried about making it work tbh
research research research ;)\
just wantd to know what questions to ask :)
right i gotta shoot ill try find out as much about the motors as i can
(if they are useable)
* robin_sz is having a gooooood day
did you have an early christmas?
I fixed the dishwasher!
congrats, gotta be nice before xmas meals
* aip_tom1 is baking bread
I'm about to start making chocolate covered cranberries
been broken for 8 weeks, but not so broken as to be able to discard it .. but not actually working
... and fighting with the wireless adapter on this ARM sbc
so, being able to fix it for christmas was gooood
if you haven't tried them, you should (use raw whole cranberries)
mmm sounds good
but use a sweet chocolate, not dark
I have been eating pickled shallots and gorgonzola
hmm, i made cinnamon cranberry bread yesterday. it was good, but i shoulda used more sugar
I even found time to get a tree!
(i say I "made", but it's really more like "the breadmaker made")
aip_tom1: I never got the hang of using a breadmaker
hmm, it's a computer... you just add ingredients, hit go
so other than banana bread etc, I just buy (locally made) bread
heh, that's exactly what I tried
starting witha good breadmaker makes all the difference.. zojirushi makes the best
for a while all the loafs would be too high and glue themselves to the lid, then later they were all too short and dense, then I gave away the breadmaker
they have a good ricemaker, too. it works (unlike the other 3 ricemakers I tried)
oh, that's just a yeast problem... gotta adjust the yeast based on the strength of it (which varies over time)
oh rice cooker?
rice cooker, rice maker, whatever
I'm good at making rice on the stove
I try to not collect kitchen gadgets that only do one thing :-)
so, yeah, i had to adjust the yeast... first i made "volcano bread", where it rose too much, hit the top, deflated and made like a volcano
next was brick bread, sound slike you know what that's like
finally was "just right", good looking loaf
I always wished for a "hang on and let it rise a little longer" button
it took like 8-10 loaves to get it right, but man, it's so nice to have the house smelling like fresh baked bread (and with cinnamon yesterday was even better)
i think the newest zojirushi will do that, mine doesn't though
i try to avoid single-purpose kitchen stuff, too, but they're good for stuff you use every week (like bread and rice and pasta for me, i love carbs)
of course, this just shows you are not a real engineer
carbs = food :-)
robin_sz: what does?
a REAL engineer would have stripped out the contorls on that breadmaker, made up a relay board, hooked it up to a custom PLC and re-written the control algorithms
cookingforengineers.com works for me, therefore, I'm an engineer?
PLC? why wouldn't you use a microcontroller?
of course, several months down the line we still not have bread, but we would have lots and lots of data on how long it takes to burn
PLCs are for techs, not engineers
a REAL engineer would weigh the variables and decide to just farm out the bread-making process to a specialist
for me, it's more about the smell in the house
thats what I do ... when she agrees to make bread
we have two great family-owned bread making shops in town, lots to choose from
organic bread bakery is 1/2 mile away, i can walk by there on the way to my shop
I remember a similar conversation about having babies ... some girl I know said "if men had to have babies, theyd make MUCH more fuss about it than women do" ... I countered with "if men had to do it, we'd ahve evolved a better way by now .. wait, actually we have, we get women to do it for us ";)
anyway ... thedishwasher was a success
and i replalced about a dozen lamps around the house that had been waiting and waiting for replacement
small jobs, but have been so busy the last few months they had slipped
still selecting encoders for my retrofit... rather than using shaft encoders, usdigital has rotary kit encoders that have a hub w/setscrew to attach directly to the motor shaft
big plus is that they're just $50 each, http://www.usdigital.com/products/e2/
cradek: the module that alex and jmk worked on made rt work on my portable. latancy test all night - no overuns.
skunkworks: no kidding, that's great
skunkworks: can you open and close the lid? use opengl?
skunkworks: my old laptop would puke when the processor fan turned on (whenever it got busy it would come on)
I had open and closed the lid with the latency test running
then congratulations, better keep that laptop, that's nice
screen saver pukes it. needs to be totally turned off - hundreds of overruns
I have one that works right too (oldish PIII)
ah opengl screensaver?
cradek: we might want to keep an eye on this SMI stuff
alex_joni: yeah it seems important
I had it set to a blank screen - as the screen starts to fade away - I can see the latency increase by hundreds
skunkworks: 1024 counts/rev?
400 I think
you can get them.
skunkworks: then I bet even moving windows around will break it
This was bought for printer port counting
what the fsck does a 4192 cpr encoder look like?
robin_sz: maybe your wife's the real engineer :D
cradek: nope. surfing ircing - no overruns
wonder why the fading is different then
I was thinking maybe proccessor scaling?
anonimasu, seen my bot?
robin_sz: I cant remember
I dont think so
running all night was gook I thought also :)
[20:12:16] <robin_sz> http://www.redpoint.org.uk/photos/upload/robot/Image018.jpg
robin_sz: how did it go with software?
that's a scary article
scary, but true
alex_joni: I guess it'll be what pushes me onto *nix
anonimasu: it's not a matter of using *nix..
that won't help either if HW manufacturers start doing that
imagine no more OSS drivers :/
well, I imagine their driver model will be cracked in some time..
I'm starting to hate microsoft.
seeing as how the OSS video drivers suck shit compared to the binaries, don't be sure about that
join the club
cradek: I ran the latency test with glxgears running also.
though if it's only piping video streams it should be doable
now just wait for the DMCA people to make decoding blu-ray/hd-dvd illegal on *nix
my strategy is to just not buy the stuff
cradek: soon there's no options.
err soon there will be no other options..
you mean no option but to buy drm'd dvds?
or do you mean computer hardware
yeah, guess I'll just use old hardware then
TCP and all
it's not like you can avoid it forever..
anonimasu: you can long enough till they decide to change it
won't live forever either :-)
alex_joni: 5-6 years down the road..
anonimasu: my home PC is 5 years old, and still quite all right :)
bet I could use this computer and OS for the next 10 years. spare parts are everywhere.
anonimasu: and it's working great :D
don't even have XP on it
I guess we should be glad ms is so damn incapable of coding, so regardless of what they do it will be cracked
we are still running 2000 on 90% of the computers at work
skunkworks: we do that too..
skunkworks: though the upgrades are running out soon
we had to upgrade to 2003server because they deprecated 2000
2000 is the last windows you can install on new hardware without ms's permission
so keep your CDs if you need windows...
although I have only had to call microsoft once so far in regards to activating xp
they'll just turn off XP installs as soon as they want to force people onto vista
cradek: that won't work as they would like it
most corporates won't upgrade to vista
alex_joni: imagine how sued they would get..
all my knowledge is secondhand - I don't recall the last windows I bought/used for myself
and at work someone else does the installs now (I last messed with NT4)
I installed ubuntu yesterday
though vlc is messing with me..
broken oss drivers..
for watching movies and stuff..
it made my video all jerky..
never seen it on windows :/
so I need to find out why..
anonimasu: try mplayer
alex_joni: that's besides the point :)
alex_joni: something else is wrong..
mplayer works great for me
I had that problem on doze with bad codecs :)
alex_joni: vlc plays mkv and stuff out of the box and I've never had a trouble..
this is with the same video :)
anonimasu: try restarting it
what's funny about it really?
wtf is up with alex today?
alex_joni: I find it kind of disturbing that it's broken
anonimasu: which Xorg driver are you using?
just a sec
iirc overlay with some configs gives issues
I fixed it by installing the binary driver
doing htat now
anonimasu: I thought it's funny.. that's how you "fix" things on doze
alex_joni: hm invoulentary restarts never happen(almost)
'doze way of fixing things:
(as in reinstall windows)
[20:38:31] <alex_joni> http://imdb.com/title/tt0444653/
that's a nice movie
I just saw Snatch and lock stock & two smoking barrels, really good
I booted ubuntu and started running emc - instantly got a unexpected realtime delay.
forgot to insmod the new module ;)
running the torture test and zooming in and out - opening windows and such. so far so good
ever thought about having an option to have the tool tip stationary and the preview move? So you could zoom in view the actual path?
* skunkworks runs and hides
cradek: why is there a Spindle: in the manual control tab - with nothing next to it?
can you post a screenshot please
it's probably a bug
skunkworks: you mean tool tip stationary, and the path moving ?
skunkworks: you only get that realtime error once per run - chances are you are having constant problems
skunkworks: you can view the number of actual errors with halmeter
skunkworks: I would also like to see a mode where the tool stays centered (or at least on screen) but that's relatively hard to program
you could ride the tool path like a roller coster ;) that would be cool.
[21:11:50] <alex_joni> http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/160446main_jsc2006e43860_high.jpg
yeah.. would love at least one of those
see the pic on the right most video screen (a galaxy)? I think I have that as a desktop background ;-)
I think those are posters
you actually get to see the shuttle control center when you take the "level 9" tour of JPL
I have this one: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_638.html
SWPadnos: this is not shuttle control center
from the observation deck just above and to the right of where that photo was taken
also ISS control
it's ISS control center
wonder if they have IRC in there
it's a far cry from the Apollo ("historic") mission control room ;)
i didnt see any ebay, irc or porn --- with all those monitors!
the various stations in the historic mission control have rotary dial phones :)
[21:19:11] <alex_joni> http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/160450main_jsc2006e43863_high.jpg
who'd want to be on IRC when you have shuttle/ISS stuff on your screen?
cradek: i exited out of emc - ran insmod <name> then re-ran axis. No realtime error after that
ah that smi thing?
I wonder if there's a problem turning that on for everyone next time we make rtai packages
cradek: it's a patch against rtai
along with adding it to emc module_helper and rtapi.conf
skunkworks: yeah, that's a bug, thanks
is this cvs head?
hmm, I don't think jeff thought about the possibility that you don't have the spindle connected
skunkworks: can you verify there's nothing connected to motion.spindle-on ?
I just used the stepper_inch with axis as the display
let me see if I can figure it out
out of emc2_head
anonimasu, so, nice bot huh?
strange - standard_pinout.hal does link motion.spindle-on to something
so, I have installed updates inc;uding a new kernel .. before I reboot, is there soem way of building the modules I built with modules-assistant for the new kernel, and the ndiswrappered modules?
oops, wrong channel
robin_sz: better after you reboot
mod-ASS looks at the running kernel sometimes
3dchips running now - no issues 50us period
robin_sz: have you had luck with ndiswrapper?
skunkworks, yeah, worked perfectly for me .. firstr time
I have broadcom chiipset card that I could not get to work with it - ended up using fwshreader or whatever.
03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py:
handle the case where spindle-on is linked, but spindle-forward/reverse
03cradek 07v2_1_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py: handle the case where spindle-on is linked, but spindle-forward/reverse are not.
I used ndiswrapper ro the Linksys 54mbs wifi card, worked instanlty .. dhcp and everything .. I jhust plugged it in and it loaded the nidswrappered module and it was off
skunkworks: now you get either forward/off buttons or nothing.
how about a checkbox to see if it's on or not?
not that lucky. I could not get the power light to come on. the pc card
alex_joni: it has buttons that indicate that
(which might be a gui blooper, except we wanted to use the pictures on the buttons)
in hal-manualtoolchange, pyhton uses tkinter, while halvcp uses gtk. is there any reason to use 1 or the other? I began rewriting a local copy of hal-manualtoolchange so it used gtk, just to have a model Later I'd create a special callable control panel, rather than change tkemc or axis.
tomp: the halvcp author preferred to program in C, the hal_manualtoolchange author preferred to program in python
I'm sure that's all that drove those choices
so it's 'du vas zu wilt?' :)
you can get good access to hal things in python and C both
tomp: "du was du willst!"
soory alex ... -10sp
tomp: I prefer python+tk
that's the only reason it's written in the language it is
I also know tk the best (but it's also the toolkit I hate the most)
well, lemme see if i can make it work before i ask too much more :) but i'd rather not have BOTH tkinter for the windows and gtk for the widgets
jepler: familiarity breeds contempt
oh, but what was 'nf' ( as in "import nf" what does that acronym mean ?) and why was rs274.options imported ( i dont see it being used )
tomp: "nf" is the name of my never-really-released window designer for Tk -- the Python "nf" module has some convenience functions for working with nf-generated tcl scripts
"rs274.options" defines the default appearance (font and color) for Tk widgets -- normally there should be a call to rs274.options.install() but perhaps it's missing
in other words, they're both very Tk/Tkinter specific
pk, nf not needed for a gtk version, and rs274 was like css,,, thanks
so I did cvs -z5 update -Pd in the emc2-head directory. then I did the ./configure --enable-run-in-place which seems to run correctly. but when I try to do make I get this cc1plus: fatal error: opening output file depends/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.d.tmp: Permission denied
the rs274ngc language is "g-code". but the name "rs274.options" is left over from the days when axis had its own g-code interpreter, and all the modules were under the 'rs274' name (even if they weren't g-code related)
skunkworks: you might get an error like that if you compiled once as root (besides 'sudo make setuid') -- rm -rf depends (or sudo rm -rf depends) and build again.
I think I had done a make clean somewhere in there. Thanks jepler. make seems to be working now
jepler: now it gets to this Assembler messages:
FATAL: can't create objects/hal/user_comps/vcp/tokenizer.o: Permission denied
make: *** [objects/hal/user_comps/vcp/tokenizer.o] Error 1
I can bork it good
sudo chown -R samco:samco * (or whatever your username is)
you may not have write permission on the object directories
or sudo chmod -R a+rw *
!search mesa url
logger_emc, search mesa url
I'm logging. I don't understand 'search mesa url', A-L-P-H-A. Try /msg logger_emc help
logger_emc, !search mesa url
I'm logging. I don't understand '!search mesa url', A-L-P-H-A. Try /msg logger_emc help
[22:01:51] <SWPadnos> http://www.mesanet.com
nono... the order page. :)
you mean jmk's page?
[22:02:13] <SWPadnos> http://jmkasunich.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask/m5i20-group-buy.html
(I happen to have both opwn in a browser at the moment ;) )
AJ succumbed, and ordered?
if you need anything else, the order hasn't shipped yet
yeah. what's the diff between... sec.
it won't until next week (the 27th or 28th)
7i30-4 and 7i33?
the 7i30-4 is actually an H-bridge, to directly power a motor
a small motor
the 7i33 is a 4-output analog filter (to make the PWM into analog output), plus differntial lines for the encoder input
100W - not tiny, but not too big either
7i33, for servos w/encoders.
the 7i30 also has encoder inputs, I believe
7i30, so more spindle control?
one is meant to drive the motor, the other is meant to tell a servo amp what to do
100w, is like 1/14hp.
no, more like 1/7 (2/15, more accurately)
so tiny motor.
SWPadnos: further.. now I get tons of these cp: cannot create regular file `../rtlib/mux4.ko': Permission denied
running it as sudo?
trying to do a make
what did you do to it??
you must have used sudo in a wrong place
I don't know - I am good at it though
you could just nuke it and get a new checkout...
SWPadnos, so, like what would I want a 7i30-4 for?
A-L-P-H-A: running little servos for a sherline size machine
cradek: that is not a problem. I could try that
skunkworks: redo the chown in the top emc2 directory
A-L-P-H-A: they would wire right up and work
cradek. oh... nice. but no good for me... I have a larger machine...
don't need a 7i31... I can hook up a bread board for that.
A-L-P-H-A, you'd want a 7i30-4 if you had an application that used several small-ish DC motors
7i32, I have gecko g201's.
the 5i20 doesn't do step/dir yet
7i33, future servo setup...
SWPadnos, I know... you're making it though. :D right?
the 7i32 won't do you any good
SWPadnos: I bet it will when jmk gets his
really, that's his intended use
cradek: to run stepper motors
the 7i32 and 7i39 flavors only have PWM outputs which drive the individual phases of a stepper or 4-phase BLDC motor, respectively
jepler: yes to run gecko stepper drivers
7i37 for I/O...
emc can't update the phase currents fast enough with the current setup - you need their softDMC controller or equivalent in the FPGA to use those
I am sure that is what I did - I saw access denied or something like that so I did a sudo - whatever/
so the logic to control the 7i32 vs a step+dir system is very different
skunkworks: with respect to emc2, you should only use sudo for "sudo make setuid", and only immediately after a successful "make"
I will learn :) maybe - slooooowly
SWPadnos, when do you want cash?
SWPadnos, want a cheque instead, so I can avoid $10-15 surcharge on paypal? [promise it won't bounce]
a check is fine, though PayPal may be easier for me due to the currency thing
the fee is 3%, so for your order it's only $7
hey... can I use a 7i33, with gecko servo drivers?
I thought gecko servo drivers were like step/dir as well.
jepler, looking at the board manuals, it looks like they use a PWM to set each phase current, and that has to be updated for each (micro)step
you can, but you have to modify the gecko
hey robin_sz. no meep?
SWPadnos, define "modify"... how extensive?
well that is going a lot better :)
with a sudo?
getting a fresh checkout
lift pin 2 of an op-amp, connect a wire from your reference voltage to the lifted pin - 0V=full current reverse, 5V=full current forward, 2.5V = 0 current (or something like that)
cradek - now I have a spindle button and stop :)
SWPadnos, okay, medium skills required... I can do that.
SWPadnos: please advise how I get check (USPostalServiceMoneyOrder-as good as cash) to you for the group buy
I think the op-amps are now pullable... they're on sockets, so easy
I'll be sending out emails to everyone today or tomorrow with your total, PayPal total (with the extra 3%), and my address/PayPal ID
and without 3%?
cause it's actually an addition 5% if I factor in conversion.
it looks like the inbound shipping to me will be about $35, so $3 each
no it's not ;)
skunkworks: cool, I think that's the right behavior now
SWPadnos, the spread is 2% on credit cards.
and on paypal.
well, somebody has to pay that conversion, and I think it's you ;)
SWPadnos, yeah I know.
I don't want my bank to charge me ...
SWPadnos, so I can either pay both paypal fees, and conversion, or just conversion via a cheque + $0.85 stamp.
yeah - either way ;)
if I save $10, it's $10... I'm cheap. :D
so you can write checks in US dollars? (or do you get a bank check in USD?)
no unexpected rt delays yet :)
I have a USD account.
checks say "USD" so I'm good.
do you have a US address?
friends in Buffalo?
I have my sister's boston addy... but I want it to my home.
that doesn't really save me any money... I gotta leave.
ok. I don't think I'll be driving near Toronto any time soon
people are bugging me to leave "NO".
when are you driving to Boston?
never... she's flying home.
home to boston.
SWPadnos: portable seems to be cooperating.
would not be afraid to run a machine with it.
plus emc2 is so cool :)
ok, time for me to get back to cleaning, lest my wife get angry with me ;)
are you guys good at analyzing analouge networks?
i'm thinking of this simple circuit, http://www.carmi.se/misterstarshine/img/currlim.gif
i'd like to know if one could determine an expression for the output current as a function of Vin, R1, R2, Ids, Vss
03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/module_helper/module_helper.c: add rtai_smi to the whitelist. allows people with SMI problems to try a fix
03alex_joni 07v2_1_branch * 10emc2/src/module_helper/module_helper.c: add rtai_smi to the whitelist. allows people with SMI problems to try a fix
skunkworks: now you go test
Thanks alex - lets see if I can do an update without borking it :)
we'll soon have to do something about these rtai_xxx modules that some users want and others don't
(e.g., there was also didier(?) who wanted rtai_serial for a new hal driver)
cvs -z5 update -Pd
such as a version of 'halcmd loadrt' that doesn't require a HAL component to be created as a result
do I have to do am make clean then make?
make should be enough
robin_sz: yeah really nice
now a reboot and test
anonimasu, ?? what is??
robin_sz: your robot
oh right .. thats was ages ago :)
all I need now is the firmware!!
Comau are a *bit* awkward
I have the original boot disks .. but they are corrupt
I rang them up to see if they would email the files over
but, their idea of "creating a good first impression" was to try and screw 500 quid out of me
alex_joni: How can I tell if it loaded?
skunkworks: it shouldn't load by default
skunkworks, pull the trigger, if it goes bang, it was.
you need to add it to rtapi.conf
I am getting rt latency errors
where is that file?
is the one you need to change
simply add rtai_smi to that list
the list after "@RTAI@" = "3"
i'm not sure that's enough -- there are the paths, too, aren't there?
then you need to rerun emc2/src/config.status
I made it all into a big mess when I added those paths to shave time off startup
jepler: right .. was just seeing that
maybe we can change it to @RTAI_MODPATH@/@module@
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alex_joni: rtai = 3
do I just do a insmod <file>
or do I need to do a modpath_rtai_something ,,,,
I think that looks ok
that is what is there.
now - I have not added anything :)
oh, add a MODPATH_rtai_smi=...
and add rtai_smi to the list above
MODULES="adeos ... rtai_smi"